Barton Faces Tough Choices Of His Own Making


There has been lots of news on Joey Barton over the last few days, and most of it will not make good reading for Joey.

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Joey Barton – no good choices for him

If the Huyton-born player thought he could ride out his current troubles, and after it was all over return to Newcastle United as though nothing had happened, he will have to think again.

Newcastle United are said to be preparing to offload their midfield player, as he prepares for a second court case that starts on June 30th.

While manager Kevin Keegan wants to keep Barton at the club because of his undoubted ability, the Daily Mail are reporting that several clubs have been made aware of the 25-year-old’s availability.

Barton is serving a six-month prison sentence for assault and affray in Liverpool, that was committed last December, and is facing a further trial for allegedly assaulting former Manchester City team-mate Ousmane Dabo, in a training ground incident last year.

He is not expected to serve the full six months of his current sentence, and for good behavior could be out in about two months.

But the case against him for the Dabo incident does look a little daunting, with Manchester City’s former manager Stuart Pearce, and a number of the City players prepared to testify for the prosecution.

Newcastle chairman Chris Mort made a very non-committal statement on Sunday about Barton’s situation:

“It is too early to say whether Joey being sacked is a possible outcome.”

However, if they don’t sell the player, the club are said to be willing to maintain his four remaining years on contract at the club, but only at half the wages he is currently getting.

So that new contract would need to be agreed, with cancellation of the contract being necessary if he ever gets charged and found guilty again, during those four years.

He’s on around £60K/week right now, so he would get £30K/week which is still around £1.56M/year.

Whether Joey could get similar wages elsewhere is very debatable, and the bad actions he has committed always have bad consequences, which is exactly what he’s now facing.

It’s nobody’s fault but Joey’s that he’s in this position.

One way to look at it is that Newcastle are willing to stand by him and give him a second (or is it the third?) chance, but he must pay for his actions with his wage cut.

It’s not very often that a professional football player ends up behind bars, and brings shame to his club, after all.

Our view is that’s a small amount to pay, if Joey can regain his pride and standing as a player and person at Newcastle United, in the next few years.

Everybody likes to see people overcome their demons, and if he was able to do that, the St. James’ Park faithful would be only too willing to embrace the player and support him fully.

But whether he’s even willing to try is unknown at this stage.

Comments welcome.



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39 comments so far

  • Tom4Nufc

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #1

    I would be happy for him to take paycut and stay.

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  • bettyswollocks

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #2

    it’s easy enough to say ‘get rid’ on this one but it’s not that simple. At the end of the day whatever happens it has to be in the best interests on nufc.

    Whichever way it goes we will take stick. If we keep him we will be seen as condoning his behaviour and if we get rid we will be seen as being cold and heartless not trying to help an individual who clearly needs it.

    From my point of view it would make sense to offer him a final chance on a reduced contract. Whether or not he takes it is up to him. If we get rid another club will only do the same and we will be the losers. I’d also get a commitment from him to put a certain amount of hours of local community service in each week – helping the club in the community. Perhaps doing some training sessions at local boys clubs and that kind of shit. Obviously cigars would be banned from any such sessions 🙂

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #3

    Its d*ckheeds like him whos wages we should be cutting, NOT Owens.

    In fact we should just get the ugly scouse creep out of our club for good

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  • 51times

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #4

    If he takes a paycut and continues the work he was doing at that clinic before he went away, I could tolerate keeping him really.

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  • James

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #5

    I would be happy for him to rot in prison for the rest of his life.

    not worthy to be a footballer for anyone let alone us.

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  • Leo

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #6

    wage cut is my opinion because we cant as a club loose out once again

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #7

    @Bettyswalloks, he should have learned his lesson LONG before now. The Dabo incident happend at Man City before he signed, we were told his problems were behind him and all he wanted to do is play well for NUFC. What does he do…

    Gets jailed for 6 months for another assault on another 16 year old amongst others.

    He is a thug mate, plain and simple. He will NEVER change. I dont want a filthy skumbag like him wearing a black n white shirt ever again

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  • HeronMag

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #8

    If we had got Barton on a free transfer I would advocate letting him go but I have no doubt this lad is a premiership footballer and a top class midfielder on his day.

    Last season he just started to see what he was capable of.

    We invested £6,000,000 in this lads abilities on the pitch, with prior knowledge of his attack on Dabo. If we let him go we would have wasted all that cash.

    If he’s willing to take a pay cut and honestly knuckles down and works hard to rebuild his career I’d support him 100%.

    Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.

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  • Tom4Nufc

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #9

    HeronMag, agreed. 🙂

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #10

    @Heronmag, how many chances has he had?

    How many more does he want?

    Damaged goods are usualy discarded, i hope so in this case

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  • 51times

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #11

    James – Get off the moral highground, please, if some tw*t had spat at your friends or family what would you have done? I’d have knocked the little c*nt out as well.

    I would agree that he shouldn’t have even been out at that time though.

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  • HeronMag

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #12

    ronaldeano – I agree he’s damaged goods but if anyone can get the best out of him it’s KK. He was brilliant at Man City under Kev.

    If he gets out the nick and behaves like a prat again so be it, get rid.

    But let’s not just chuck away £6m quid of the supporters cash. If jail can’t change him then I agree nothing will. But would you not like to find out before letting him go?

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  • greg

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #13

    he’s done good since KK took over

    slash his wages. put a ‘one wrong step and you’re out’ clause in

    good player. keegan can sort him.

    if he goes – we’ve only got butt, geremi and smith….

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  • StevieD

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Wow, £30K/week. Surely that’s still a damn fine wage for a footballer?

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #15

    @Heronmag, i agree that its cash wasted on him if we let him go, but i reacon we should cut our losses on this one and give 60 grand a week to another player who is better than barton who behaves himself. We have had too many knobheeds at this club over the years, its time to put a stop to it. Barton will never learn imo.

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  • Nev

    Jun 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #16

    make him take a pay cut and keep him.. hes too good imo to just sack and let another club snap him up
    heres just an idea .. but what would evryone make to signing colin kazim richards as a squad player … seemed like he was hinting on a move back to england in a interview after turkey portugal match … i think he could do well on the cheap as back up + hes played in euros and CL now … not bad for the coca cola kid haha

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  • Jeff

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #17

    Betty agree with everything you say there.

    @Ronaldeano – as usual disagree with nearly everything you say. Looking at the bigger picture sacking him is not best for the club or him. He’s made mistakes but its not like hes killed anyone.

    I see nothing wrong with us supporting him and helping him get on the right track, this would be best for NUFC and Barton. Otherwise hes got the potential to turn into the next Gazza.

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  • Darryl

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #18

    Well, i figured people wouldnt be bothered about barton, but some of the comments are fairly harsh to say the least.

    In fairness, if you were brough up in a rough area.. thats is what the outcome is going to be. He wont learn over night, fair enough hes 25, but he won’t get rid of his habits straight away.

    I say offer him a reduced contract, what would he gain from going back to his old ways and nothing going for him? Atleast he would have something to aim towards.

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  • Bill F SPLASH THE CASH ASH

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #19

    Looks like I’m the only one who is taking the moral approach to this. Forcing him to take a pay cut somehow doesn’t seem an honest thing to do. Yes I agree he is a towrag and a tw@t and I would be happy if the club either sacked him or backed him. But not kick him when he is down. I know, he didn’t show the same consideration, but two wrongs do not make a right.
    The other thing to consider is how we look to potential new players. Sack him and it shows the club will not stand any nonsense even if it does cost us. Back him and it shows that when a player becomes part of the Toon family then they will get the clubs backing right or wrong.
    In my opinion making him take a pay cut when he returns (I don’t think he should be paid at all whilst he is inside) is a half solution and sends out the wrong messages. ie the management will shaft you given the chance. Perhaps I’m a bit old fashioned in my thoughts and perhaps I am wrong but that is my opinion.

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  • Davies

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #20

    I don’t know chaps. The more I learn about Barton, the more I think we should wash our hands of him.

    I know there’s an investment here, and everybody deserves a second (third, fourth and fifth) chance, but this boy is little more than a thug.

    Unfortunately, I think we’re stuck with him. I can’t see anybody buy 6 million quids worth of problems, even if the price is slashed significantly.

    Thanks a f*cking bunch Allerdyce, you stupid fat knob.

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  • Davies

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #21

    BillF, have a word mate. At least one player has “snubbed” us because of Barton.

    What message are we really sending out here?

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  • craig chisholm

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #22

    he has to stay doesnt he. he is a great little midfielder at the end of the day. besides, he has been shafted royaly lads just cos of who he is. the media make out it was a helpless young lad blah blah. load of crap man, you all know what these young scroats are like these days. Look at al lthe other things the media say about newcastle – none of it normally right! if someone walked up to you and spat in your face (which is what happened) would you not smack em in the face too – i would for sure. Kantona did a flying kick on telly infront of millions of people and manure kept him and stood by him. It asrses me off that mort says nothing about signings etc but is not bothered in blabbing about cutting the lads wages. its like being two faced i think. if you got a 50% paycut from your bosses cos you smacked a little shite that spat in your face would you be happy? would you be inclinded to work your arse off for that employer in the future? they should either terminate his contract or stand by him. end of story, mort wants his cake and to eat it by the looks of it!

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #23

    @jeff, am i dissagreeing with what im saying?

    all i am saying is we should get rid cos he is a tw@t and he will never learn. You would be wasting your time supporting him.

    Would you still support him if it was YOUR sons eye he stuck a lit cigar in?

    Get a grip man

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  • ToonKing

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #24

    it’s a joke what the board are doing to him, blackmailing him in plain sight.

    sack him or back him i say, but don’t mock him.

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  • ToonKing

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #25

    perfectly said craig chisholm. 100% agree.

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  • Eric

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #26

    Going with Davies on this one. Normal people do not sit on teenagers and punch their heads over and over again. Normal players do not punch their workmates (e.g., team-mates) into hospital or court. The only way for NUFC to give Barton another chance in life is to encourage him to find that chance somewhere away from St James Park.

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  • Bill F SPLASH THE CASH ASH

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #27

    Davies in which case we should sack him and not as ToonKing says mock him.

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  • ronaldeano

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #28

    What did the little 16 yr old from the academy do to deserve a lit cigar rammed in his eye from one of the first team players who he looked up to?

    NOTHING is the answer

    He is a thug and always will be. There is no point in giving him more chances.

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  • Graeme

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #29

    Chelsea showed exactly how to do it with Mutu. They sacked him, retained his registration and then sold him. Chelsea have just sued him for the money they lost and won.

    Mutu now has to repay about £4 million (could be higher, cant remember exact numbers) so Chelsea have ended up losing nothing.

    Barton should have been long gone and this discussion shouldnt be happening. Yet more dithering by NUFC that should have been sorted. Its about time the management grew some balls.

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  • dick

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #30

    lets hope big sam gets blackburn job then he would take him

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  • Tom

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #31

    Get him out. He’s had enough chances and at the end of the day he will never learn if clubs keep letting him off. We should have never signed him in the first place he is an average midfielder and puts other players off from joining our club. (Silvestre). In any other job he would be sacked and this should be no different.

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  • Tom

    Jun 10, 2008 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #32

    exactly Graeme.

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  • Paul R

    Jun 10, 2008 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #33

    Whats this i hear about Keegan on an “extended holiday” and us looking at dick advocaat is that why we arent signing players yet for the first team ?? is keegan walking or is this more southern b*ll sh*t ???

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  • John

    Jun 10, 2008 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #34

    on a differentnote , I was loving this commentby Eto’s aboutspuds

    “Barcelona striker Samuel Eto’o has ruled out a move to Spurs – and hinted that Inter Milan remain an option. “Tottenham, and I hope the English fans will forgive me, are a club in mid-table and I need more,” said Eto’o

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  • Graham

    Jun 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #35

    If we get rid of Barton and no-one else takes himon he’ll become the next Gazza.

    Give him 1 more chance. Cut his wages and use some of the cash for his rehabilitation and maybe, just maybe both parties can come out of this mess with some credit. Barton for finally shrugging off his demons (hopefully) and NUFC for showing balls and commitment to someone who needs it more than most.

    If that happens and Barton finally delivers his potential – bring his wages back in line with the other players at the club.

    Yes, he’s shit on the club, but the club must be bigger than just throwing gim on the scrapheap. We knew what we were getting before we bought him.

    On a lighter note (sorry for the long post), This Gomis guy looks alright…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQE6xm071f0

    A bit like Tino without the guns and cocaine??

    If we have bid £10m i think it may take a bit more to persuade him to come here with Arsenal sniffing around…

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  • geordiegraham

    Jun 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #36

    i wud be happy 2 see him take a pay cut and continue 2 play 4 the club but on one condition he keeps his arse out of trouble. He started 2 play better towards the end of the season so i wud let hin hav his last chance up here.

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  • scottish mag

    Jun 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #37

    skysports are reporting that we have sold rozenhal to lazio

    thats another one out and still none in,

    MA get ur finger out

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  • Leo

    Jun 10, 2008 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #38

    i guess you didnt hear about everything else he did craig chisholm?

    my mate works for the papers in london and he showed me a video of the full thing including the macdonalds thing and then outside, he is a thug and he layed into someone for no reason not just the incident involving the spitting

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  • Jeff

    Jun 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #39

    ronaldeano – ‘What did the little 16 yr old from the academy do to deserve a lit cigar rammed in his eye from one of the first team players who he looked up to?

    NOTHING is the answer

    He is a thug and always will be. There is no point in giving him more chances.’

    @ ronaldeano – as always with these things there are two sides to every story. you shouldnt just believe what you read in the tabloids and then regurgitate it as fact. its people like you that jump on or off whichever bandwagon the sun or mirror tell you to and make the rest of us nufc fans look like twats in the process. try looking at these things realistically and objectively instead of coming out with the first piece of emotional crap that your two brain cells can come up with.

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