Newcastle Gutierrez Deal Looks Better And Better


Our new signing Jonas Gutierrez is refusing to allow his transfer to Newcastle be dampened by the potential law suite his former club Real Mallorca have indicated they will launch against him.

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Jonas Gutierrez – he did everything above board

Jonas talked to the Newcastle Journal this morning:

“My conscience is clear and I am not worried by the actions of Real Mallorca.”

“I just want to play for Newcastle in the Premier League.”

Newcastle have done absolutely nothing wrong legally, but Mallorca are obviously upset they got so little for their best player, after almost selling him to Portsmouth in January for £8M (10M euro).

Of course, to make things worse for Mallorca, the club is in dire financial straights right now, with former chairman Freddy Shepherd ready to buy the club.

Mallorca President Vicente Grande has threatened to report both Newcastle and the player to FIFA in a bid to claim the £8m in compensation he believes they are entitled to.  But Gutierrez only took advantage of FIFA’s Article 17 rule, and everything seems to have been legally above board.

Grande said:

“This could hurt Real Mallorca a great deal because of our financial situation,”

“It has come at a very bad time for us.”

“We cannot understand the attitude of the player who has done this to force a move to England. This issue is certainly not closed.”

“The club will be contacting FIFA because we believe we have a very sound case.”

“The minimum we want to recuperate is the 10 million euros Portsmouth offered us in the winter market.”

The Journal today says the issue is further complicated because Gutierrez is still partly owned by Argentinian club Velez Sarsfield, who will also expect to receive part of any fee.

The 24-year-old was due to return to Velez this summer following a three-year loan deal with Mallorca, but his decision to buy out his contract means he is able to move to England instead.

Velez Sarsfield president Alvaro Balestrini explained:

“Jonas Gutierrez was due to return to Velez Sarsfield on 1st July in accordance with the contracts signed with Mallorca, owners of 50% of his economic rights.”

“After three seasons on loan at Mallorca he would have had to come back to Velez if Newcastle had not come in.”

If you dismiss the grumblings of Mallorca, which are understandable in the circumstances, this seems a brilliant deal by Newcastle, to get such a good player at such a low price, even though the move seems to have been rather complex.

Now who said Wise and the other two Recruitment Directors weren’t earning their money?   😀

This looks like a great acquisition for the club, at an extremely low price.

Comments are welcome if you keep them civil and concentrate on this article, or anything to do with Newcastle United and football in general – thanks.



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72 comments so far

  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    this is where chris mort and the legacy he has left behind comes into friutition! Well done Newcastle!

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  • John

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #2

    good deal but Ashley has still spent nothing…..After all the news this morning, thinking about it , it really seems like he’s setting our club up for a sale…He has’nt invested hardly anything into the playing squad …

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  • John

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #3

    soppose we’ll see by the end off the transfer window how much he does invest

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #4

    JOHN! i dissagree!

    Are the media annoyed that we signed a player they didn’t link us with so they invent a story? Any business is for sale at the right price, especially at a £200 million profit! Why would he put a structure in place geared around youth development and longevity and also invest in new signings if he is planning on selling?

    There are no concerns amongst the Newcastle fans over this! We simply realise now that the media has a small minded agenda which is designed to disrupt and stir trouble. For the first time in a long time we are being run like a “proper” club. We don’t broadcast our intentions like Harry redknapp and peter storie do! The media are somehow confusing our stubborn stance with regards to quotes and info drip fed to the media hacks with secret talks with various foreign investors. It must be a slow news day! Nothing like a good old Newcastle story to shift the rags! On with our lives fellow toon fans!

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  • HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #5

    I think we are best off canceling the mallorca game because I can see trouble!! the fans and there chairman arn’t happy!! this could cause real bother for our away fans!!!

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  • Ever seen a mackem in Milan?

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #6

    The problem isnt spending the money its the quality of the player. If we can get players of the same quality as Gutierrez for pennies then i for one am not complaining. More money to spend when (or if) we break into the top 4 in a few years.

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  • Oba

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #7

    This new takeover talk is only going to slow down the process of transfers surely?

    Bloody pain in the arse.

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #8

    exactly john. Judge him at the end of the transfer window. it’s only been open 4 days and we have a player in the bag. whether the player was signed for a fee or by taking an advantage of a loophole, he still signed!

    clever business if you ask me!

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  • mozza

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #9

    agree broon mort will always be held in high regard by most toon fans, of topic more shit stirring in the press regarding the sale of the toon to some yanks, will it ever stop? why appoint wise and set the blueprint for the future buying high quality young players if you’re gona sell, telagraphs a joke now its quoting the sun as a source

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  • Davies

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #10

    Nice.

    Has anybody seen the renewed speculation about Ashley selling up?

    £420m sounds like a deliberately high asking price to keep buyers at bay to me.

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  • estechco

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #11

    I agree with broo nale, MA has probably had an informal offer to buy the club and he has cheekily said “only if you pay me twice what I paid for it”.

    Someone has got wind of this and the press have yet another field day

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  • Davies

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #12

    Sorry, there was only one comment when I started typing and somebody phoned me.

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #13

    oba. the takeover talk will be water off a ducks back to the newcastle board. there has been many stories likes this in the past. nothing ever transpired

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  • Macas

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #14

    Broon Ale – I always used to have exactly the same stance as yourself, but I’m not so sure anymore. The story is on BBC now and they never print just speculation. I’m beginning to think maybe he is just in it for a fast buck. I really hope not, as for the first time in a long time it looks as though we are heading in the right direction.

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  • Oleg G

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #15

    On the subject of Latin Players:

    in the last week I watched the 2 games of the Finals of the Libertadores Cup.
    Fluminense VS. LDU

    And I saw 2 great players, one from each team.

    On LDU – Joffre Guerron, this player have speed, power, creativity, passing, everything !!!

    and on the Brazilian side- Thiago Neves.
    this player, gave a chance to his team with a hat-trick in 45 minutes.

    After the first game ended 4-2 to LDU
    the second one ended 3-1 to Flu (after 0-1 to LDU already).

    Anyway, who ever likes to follow great young players, I suggest these 2. specially Guerron,
    would be so happy if Newcastle sign someone as good as he is.

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  • Andy

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #16

    A couple of quick things about the Webster case.
    1. It established that when a player canceled his contract without cause then compensation was due to the club as while it was permissible to cancel the contract, it was still a breach of contract by the side that cancelled.
    2. The Market Value of the player is not owed to the club. This is partly because either side can decide to cancel the contract, but imagine if you had a situation where the club could cancel and owe the player a million, but if the player canceled he owed the club 10 million – not so unilateral. So the compensation is either the remaining guaranteed payments or the amount specifically written into the contract for this eventuality (something I think you will see hapening more and more).
    3. If the player then goes to another club the other club is equally liable for the compensation.
    4. The contract between a club and player is subject to the FIFA regulations and is a specific type of employment contract, not a commercial contract, making it hard to sue based on lost profit or income.

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  • Leo

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #17

    what do people think of bananas lol. ok sorry ed im only having a poke lol.

    it is good news that we have made a good and very shrewd deal, but then the newspapers are going to say that ashley is just being tight etc and people will be back on the bandwagon again

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  • Kash2

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #18

    Well MA has invested as he’s bank rolled Dennis Wise, Jiminez and Vetere to sort out recruitment. I’m sure there wages are around £3m a year altogether, then add on the expenses and scouting staff underneath them, as well as legal fees etc etc. It seems like they’ve justified there job roles by landing Jonas for around £4m when we was valued at £8m. If we do sign Inler for £4m, then again, pretty damn good business.

    I doubt MA will sell. No body in there right mind would buy Newcastle for £420m when we aren’t even as big a brand aa any of the truly big clubs!

    Didn’t Liverpool cost in the region of £420m?

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  • Yahya Ahmad

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #19

    The transfer news are getting more positive and I like that! Soon we might get Gokhan Inler who should be a great signing!

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  • ToonPhill

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #20

    i agree with davies.

    i thought it was delibately high to warn them off buyin the club.

    i have faith in wor ashley 🙂

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  • Davies

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #21

    I don’t think Ashley would be taking a new, more active role in the running of the club if his plan is to sell it.

    His new “hands on” role suggests to me that he is in it for the long haul. Stepping in to make sure that Taylor gets a new contract in not the action of a man who doesn’t give a toss about the club.

    I like the fella. I think he’s vastly improved the way the club is run.

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  • brownrob

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #22

    Wonder if David Villa would be interested in buying out his contract to play for the Toon! Being that we have a friendly arranged vs them and all! 😉

    Nice to hear Jonas say he wants to play for the Toon, even better I havent even heard him say how pleased he is with his “financial package” he is getting (ie wages)

    Cant see Mike Selling up anyway, Im sure Kevin Keegan would have walkedout during the meeting if MA said he wasnt in it for the long haul. Really, dont believe what the Sun says… I mean look at the pandemonium that happened yesterday due to one guy saying we had signed Aimar 😉

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  • Graeme

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #23

    I think this will open the floodgates for similar signings in the near future. Its going to create a lot of problems for a lot of clubs, losing their future stars for peanuts.

    As the Arseing Whinger said, its going to change the way players and clubs do business.

    It still looks like we got a bloody good player for not a lot of money, but what goes around, comes around and we cant complain if/ when it happens to us!!!

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  • Yahya Ahmad

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #24

    I hope Mike Ashley would sell because he hasnt gave Keegan a very high transfer budget and we need a lot to buy high top quality players if we want to break into the top 4!

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #25

    the mood amongst fans seems to fluctuate between delight and despair. the other day when we signed Jonas we were on top of the world. Now as a result of the story in the sun fans are once again concerned. I wouldnt let the sun influence you in any way! we have seen these stories plenty of time in the past! As for the BBC, they are no better or worse than skysports!

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  • Ross

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #26

    Ashley doesnt have anything else on his mind except selling the club, he doesnt care about newcastle at all. I personally think he will be away with his cash within the next 12months max. Of course he is trying to run the club the way it shud be done, but none of the other clubs are doing it the way he is, next year we wont be anything better than we have for the last 5seasons. Ashley is pissed off bcoz he had to pay off all that debt he didnt know about, and thats why he isnt plying the club with cash. I dont disagree with the way he is running the club but the way he is going about it isnt goin to get us a european place.

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  • danny t

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #27

    i am still waiting for the first good signing by kk. This bloke is average at best. I cant imagine the big players look at the squad and think that they are players who could improve their game. I still reckon kk will be the first manager sacked and the squad hasnt improved yet on last seasons.

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  • SwedeEric

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #28

    As said before… Cant understand all the talk about Ashley being tight… We have bought a player, ok he was sheep, but how can that be negative?

    It sounds to people here we are the only ones who haven´t bought a new squad this year… chelsea just bought there secund player, Arsenal have bought noone, Man utd noone, Liverpool Degen for free, Villa, pompey, Everton? Noone realy…

    Unless all of the 50 persons here that are complaining all the time is 14 year old who doesn´t understand better, I cant understand it!

    We havn´t bought more or less than any one ells, so get over it!

    And were you guys get it from that he is selling the club just because he hasn´t bought a shit loads of players 5 days in to the transferwindow is boyond me!

    I realy enjoy going to this site and read the articals and the coments about the players from people here… But all the whining from all the 14 year olds in here about ashley being tight, Wise not doing buisness fast enought, Ashley just wants to sell the club is just pissing me off realy!

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  • Rob Kirton

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #29

    Davies: “£420m sounds like a deliberately high asking price to keep buyers at bay to me.”

    If that figure has been leaked by Ashley it does not mean stay away – it means come and get me, otherwise no price would be leaked at all.

    I personally don’t think the club is for sale. But who really knows? If the price was not made up by the press and has been leaked it will mean only one thing. We are up for sale.

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #30

    Yahya Ahmad! where has big money signings and quick fix solutions got us the past?

    just because he isn’t throwing money at keegan left right and centre doesnt mean he isn’t supporting us!

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  • AussieToon

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #31

    why is goal.com saying thhat gutierrez signings in jeopardy

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  • Cyprus-Toon

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #32

    I agree with Davies, MA has asked for such a high price to put of portential buyers, same as a club does with a player they don’t want to lose, up the value enough to put othee teams off, works all the time 🙂
    As for Jonas Gutierrez, when I first heard, I thought ‘who the hell is he’ & pretty much haven’t changed my mind yet, as there isn’t alot about him around, he scored 5 goals in 96 games, not a lot but better than Butt, Smith, Barton, Geremi have done the past 2 seasons, so lets see him work before judging him yeah!!

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  • brownrob

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #33

    Does it matter if he spends 70m or 20m as long as the players brought in are of similar quality

    It beggars belief… Do you just want bragging rights that the club are spending big money…

    As long as we get the quality players in I couldnt give a monkeys if the transfer fee to the other club was a lapdance from Big Mike while Llambias serves them drinks wearing nothing but a pink fluffy scarf! 😀 😉 (shudders)

    We got a great player for next to nothing! Would you rather we paid £20m for him?

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  • HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #34

    The club was bought from shepherd for:
    £132 million

    Mike Ashley cleared NUFC debits:
    £100million

    With the transfer market being open, and the need for players, especially “quality”
    £100million

    £132 m
    £100 m debit
    £1oo m transfer fees as we need at least 6 players if not more!!
    ————-
    £332 m

    £420 m
    ————
    £88 million profit

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #35

    ross! your letting your pessimistic attitude rule your head! it’s a pretty assuming comment to make when you claim ashley doesnt love the club and he will be gone in 12 months.

    I dont know how many times chris mort had to come out and say ashley is in it for the long haul!

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  • John

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #36

    I said on the previous post that i think the guys who want to buy Newcastle has leaked it to the Media to put pressue on Ashley..There obviously not happy with the asking price so probably leaked it o cause a stir….

    Don’t really know what to think..All I really want for our club is a good war chest for Keegan and about a good 3-4 years off stability..no changes major changes in the club just progress every year

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  • broon ale

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #37

    Cyprus-Toon. if Jonas Gutierrez was a striker i would be concerned with his strike rate. As he is a winger i dont give a monkeys. I never heard anyone complaining about Ginola’s strike rate.

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  • Yahya Ahmad

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #38

    If he loves the club then why would he think about selling it and would just say NO to the buyers interested!

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  • SwedeEric

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #39

    Yahya Ahmad—>

    Just has he yust pionted out… KK must have a big transferbudget… Do you know how big it is? I for one doesn´t… Liverpool have spent no cash, so they won´t have a transferbudget at all? And before someone say they have bid 18MP four Barry, we biddied 16M for Modric!

    And during the FS time we spent big money on big names, and it got us nowere! The only thing that happend was us being in major debt, and spending money that didn´t exist.

    Guys just wait and se till we know how much we spend, or what players we have bought! If we by september havn´t bought anyone more than Jonas, then I will start agree with you younguns, but before then relax!

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  • faustino

    Jul 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #40

    Ive said it once and Ill say it again….if the guy wanted to make a quick 100 million he wouldnt buy a football club. For someone with his wedge there are far easier ways.

    Imagine you had a grand. How easy is it to make a hundred quid?

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