There are reports coming out of Norwich, that our 18 year old defender Tamas Kadar, has been signed on loan by the East Anglia club.
Tamas Kadar, after signing in January
Newcastle’s Hungarian Under-21 international defender Tamas Kadar is reported to have signed for Norwich on loan today.
While it’s not yet official, it wouldn’t surprise us at all, since both Kadar and one of our other top youngsters, 18 year-old Ben Tozer, have both been told they will be sent out on loan this season, to Championship sides.
The details of the loan are not yet known, but the former Zalaegerszegi man, who joined Newcastle last January, would follow Matty Pattison (and maybe Shola Ameobi eventually), to Norwich City.
Once former Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder took over as manager, he also took Lee Clark, as assistant manager, on the coaching staff.
Kadar, 18, made his first team debut for Zalaegerszegi at the age of 16, and he was called into the full Hungary squad in May of this year, but injury (which he still has) stopped him making his full international debut.
While at Newcastle, he has impressed greatly while playing for our young Reserve side, and the club has great hopes for him in the future.
Kadar, who stands 6′2″ tall, can play at center-back or left back, and is very highly thought of, within the Newcastle management.
This will be official only when it’s reported on www.nufc.co.uk or the Norwich City web site, but we feel this would be a good move for both parties.
Comments welcome.
236 responses so far ↓
1 DC Toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:44
I really hope these young lads are developed properly AND given the chance at first team football. I hope once he comes back, he is a regular in the NUFC rotation.
2 Jon Goodwyn // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:55
Good move for both of them, hopefully will earn them some valuable experience
3 Hadrian // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:56
roeder bloods the youngsters, will be great experience for him .
maybe newcastle should think about setting up ties with some sort of feeder clubs .
4 Gib Steve // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:57
Must be true, his Wikipedia site says so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamás_Kádár
5 Bimpy474 // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:58
I dont think this one’s a goer, reason being Norwich have Adam drury at lb and have signed Ryan Bertrand from Chelski on loan to compete with him for that position.
Mind you a loan for Kadar would do the lad good to get 1st team action at a decent level.
6 ToonTimbo // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:59
Its good to hear he is going on loan to a big championship side for next season!! I havent actually ever seen him play so who could he be as good as??
7 GraemeR // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:00
This just makes buying first team players even more of a priority. Whilst buying up young talent makes sense we need to build the first tema squad or risk doing a C Palace and having the likes of the spuds using us as a development club.
NE1 know what happend to the Emre transfer?? It looks like we may need him this season.
8 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:05
It will be good to see how he does in a real game situation instead of the reserves. Good move for us if he moves there on loan.
9 Dan13 // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:25
He;s a genuine guy, i talk to him on facebook:)
10 boater // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:35
Woah! Just heard on the radio that Van der Vaart has been spotted at SJP this afternoon! Ye hord it here forst!! HTL!!!
11 Stev // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:38
Van Der Vart been seen at SJP with Keegan! Signing for 11mil they’re saying on Sky sports!!!
12 Matt // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:39
Hadrian // Jul 15, 2008 at 18:56
roeder bloods the youngsters, will be great experience for him .
maybe newcastle should think about setting up ties with some sort of feeder clubs .
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I’ve thought about that before, I think you can only loan 2 players to the same club in this country but that doesn’t apply to other clubs in Europe, something similar to Man Utd do with Antwerp would suit us best.
13 potts // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:40
How divvent be stupid… van der vart is NOT gonna sign for the toon … would be nice like though… dream on guys.
14 toonfan1 // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:43
boater and stev- thats not even funny. its blatent that you are both the same people to make it look like the story is true
15 ToonTimbo // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:43
If that vdv story is true i will litterally take all of my clothes off and run down the street screaming!!
Yesssssss
However… If it aint i’d better put my clothes back on fast!! lol
16 rob1892 // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:44
im watchin sky sports news right now and nothing at all is on it about us
17 toonfan1 // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:46
rob1892- i bet it is that fernando trying to pull our legs.
18 rob1892 // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:47
probably but he dont bother me,we are obviously seen as a threat to him if he spends all his time on here having a pop
19 ToonTimbo // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:48
http://www.skysports.com/football
nought
20 jordan // Jul 15, 2008 at 19:58
Yeah good news for both clubs , if nufc fans are worried he wont play for us cuz of are lb wee already have , d.w he’ll play cb. doherty and shackell are shite !
yeah van der vaart is signing u !
good news , good player in the prem
21 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:01
I think that is worth a ban. Anyone know any spurs blogs where i can say Modric broke his leg and will be out for the season?
22 toonfan1 // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:07
http://www.tottenhamhotspurs.tv/forum/
the shitty forum
23 Lutterbach // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:11
Anyone knows if the Reserves game has already started?
I think so, but have not sure, coz I live in Brazil.
24 Alex // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:24
Forget van der vaart guys , it was reported in the dutch media today that he is Hamburg s captain for the new season
25 Hammy // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:28
Wow…is this going to be another fruitless week in the transfer market???? I’m sooo underwhelmed it’s untrue anybody else wondering why Fulham bought Zamora off West Ham? he’s cack…..
26 DC Magpie // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:33
Also reported that Real had placed a bid in for VDV’s services. Either way he aint Toon bound.
Shame but it looks like Granero joined Getafe a couple of days ago. He would have been an excellent signing.
27 Tom_Toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:36
Alex - He has been HSV’s captain for the past 2 seasons. Are you from Holland?
What about Vlaar for a cb, if we can stop him being so injury prone
28 Andy // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:43
anybody else heard nicky butt may be off to hull city and that we are apparently in talks wiv franck quedrue after he was released by birmingham? Quedrue wouldnt be bad on a free and then get insua on a loan…and a right back…and a centre back…and 2 midfielders…and a striker..and get rid of smith…and n’zogbia…and cacapa…and ameobi
29 Frankieboy // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:46
remember Roeder started at the Toon with the kids and was a success. He has a knack of bringing the best out of them and to me is better suited to working with the young ones like he did with the young gazza when Roeder was Toon captain.
Either 6 or 12 months out on loan and Kadar could be ready for the big time.
30 Tom_Toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:48
If we are replacing Cacapa with Quedrue, it is the equivalent of replacing Gold with dog shite (Quedrue).
31 DC Magpie // Jul 15, 2008 at 20:58
Cacapa aint going nowhere. 5/5
He’s got a year left on a lucrative contract and no one who could afford his wages will be coming in for him.
Quedrue can get lost.
And I seriously doubt Butt is going anywhere…would make sense he we had been on the ball and snapped up a younger better replacement but since we haven’t…he’s staying also.
32 DC Magpie // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:00
God if we start the season with Geremi, Butt and Duff across the midfield I will cry.
33 Alex // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:03
Tom Toon they announced it because they have a new trainer and he is keeping him as captain. As for vlaar he is not better than we already have and yes i live in Holland but born and bred in ashington.
Keegan should make a move for Aissati from PSv he wants a move , Ajax are already in talks with him ,if we move Quickly we could defiantly get him he is better than Engelaar and afellay and they were in the dutch squad at the euro s
34 Matt // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:06
Hull are signing Boateng so I can’t see them signing Butt too.
35 Ross // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:11
completly off topic, but were any of you lads at T in the park this weekend? the toon were heavily represented, shirts everywhere!
36 Ben K // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:19
DC Magpie, what a terrifying yet plausible midfield for the first game. I think Milner will be put right back into the side though.
Just as terrifying is Owen being left on the PK’s!!! He didn’t miss any last year, but he also didn’t miss any keepers either. Unfortunately I’m not sure who in the side would be reliable - except for Joey Barton.
37 Gateshead Mag. // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:28
Just thought lads.
Who else was supposedly after Turan?
Juve and Milan?
Juve have said they aren’t gonna sign anyone else and Milan are gettin a player who plays in a similar position and I doubt he’d get a game their either. There’s always hope boys.
38 shearer4pm // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:28
some spanish links that i thought of in my spare time…
dragutinovic - after him last year, sevilla just bout to sign squillaci so he prob wont be a regular 1st teamer, cheap, well worth a 2 yr deal imo
colocini - obv reasons versitality solid player,
ayala - no he aint dead yet lol, cheap still hungry for the game, model profesional and much needed experience
ivan riki - lookin for a move, could prove to be crap, could prove to be a very ueful signing, 3mil whats a summer without a gamble
maxi rodriguez - useful player, skilful on the ball, may be a little pricey but would defo be worth it imo
luccin - again linked last year relagated with zaragoza looking to leave 1.5m bargain
and one to shock people……rafael sobis very talented young player, would cost in excess of 10m and again may be a gamble but one that could pay dividents
neways there my opinions, i feel all are actually realistic (boater and stev) and i feel all would bring somthing new to the squad
39 shearer4pm // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:33
and sorin jus been released
worth a go
yeh or no
40 Tom_Toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:33
Steven Sunday from Valencia would be nice.
41 Paul R // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:36
cherly cole would be nicer !!!!
42 beye the great // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:39
i said about a week ago that kadar had gone to norwich
43 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:39
Anybody think we are linked with relegation or Championship players or reserves like Liverpool? Joke . we are NUFC.
Some on this blog have stated we are skint. Wrong. We are the RICHEST club in the Prem. We have no debt. Man u have a £800M debt. Arsenal has a £300M debt due to their ground. Chelsea’s debt cannot be described. Its phenominal. WE HAVE NO DEBT. We are not skint. The problem is that our owner will not spend any money on anyybody. All the money from the savings on the sales of players, the reduced wages, the TV money, is going straight into his pocket to pay for his failed Sports company. At least fat Fred backed his managers. We are left with crumbs and some on this blog think MA has done well. Saint Mike. Ask Kevin if you can get an answer from our invisible manager ( King Kev who must be really hacked off with the owner)
44 shearer4pm // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhWV8lt_1I
funny link - - - great swipe at spurs on 2.13
well worth watchin good digs at arsenal and chelsea right at the start and the whole thing jus rips it out of manu veryy good well worth a watch
45 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:51
We have no debt and so NUFC can afford anybody. We are scraping around in the basement of signings with youngsters and anybody we can steal cheaply off other clubs because MA will not put his hand in his pocket because he wants all NUFC profits for his ailing Sports Diresct company. if you can’t see that you are blind. We are the richest club and are behaving like hartlepool. Shame on you MA.
46 Alex // Jul 15, 2008 at 21:54
Daiv
if Keegan was hacked off with the owner he would have already walked away. it is getting a bit tiresome all the doom and gloom mongering that the likes of you keep keep driveling.
TRANSFER WINDOW HAS ONLY BEEN OPEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND WE ALREADY HAVE 2 NEW FIRST TEAMERS .THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE IT CLOSES .WE WILL SIGN MORE PLAYERS >GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE!!!!
47 havanaclue // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:02
reserves beaten 6 - 2 off benfield
48 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:04
Alex
Give it a few weeks and lets see whether King kev walks away.
Some on this blog must be related to MA because they think he has done a great job. God help us. It seems to me he has bought the club and written off the debt and the done nothing. since then. I do not watch “no debt” but players. They are not coming in in the quality I would like and MA will be in trouble come September at the ground if he does not put his hand in his pocket. He’ll have to sit in the box upstairs. me and my many mates feel we have rumbled him. We are there at the ground but where are you?
49 Paul R // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:05
Here is the report for the reserve / youth side match
http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1344782,00.html
50 Ben K // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:08
Daiv brings an interesting point about the use of debt to bring in signings. ManU is a perfect example, but don’t forget about Leeds. Calling NUFC the richest club in the premiership is a bit off target; Chelsea are bankrolled by a man far wealthier than MA.
51 Paul R // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:12
does any one know wher you can get local hero as a ring tone ?
52 Warwick Hunt // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:24
On the day of the Birth of my 3rd Son I had hoped to come on this site and see not one negative comment from half empty glass merchants, but alas they still rear there ugly heads. No-one knows what is happening at NUFC except Bona Fide members of the Board and the recruitment team, no club leaks, no sources close to the club, no media hacks, NADA.
Just because we have signed 2 unknown (to me)players and are said to be interested in other young players doesn’t mean we haven’t got irons in the fire for more established experienced players.
MA has been a blessing for our club after the last regime. As stated by a poster earlier we have no debt and are looking to the future.
Have faith.
53 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:32
Shearer4pm,
excellent stuff man, funny as!..Ta!..
54 Hadrian // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:35
just go’s to show our strength in depth when our reserves get their arse handed to them 6-2 by benfield .
55 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:36
Congrats Warwick hunt, have a virtual beer on me mate, scratch that, champagne me thinks!..
…Hope ya’ new lad & mother are doin’ well!..
…Possible future signing…
…All the best!..
56 Warwick Hunt // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:46
@Punk Skunk.
Cheers Mate, may I add that my Glass is neither half full nor half empty it is actually very full on return from the fridge.
Yes the Baby and Mrs are very fine thanks.
As for future signings, who knows. But my eldest Son (6YO) was invited with his School to take part in a tournament at the Sunderland Academy and he was adament that he would play in his NUFC strip so maybe at least he has the passion to succeed. Once more into the breeches and all that, HAHAHAHA.
57 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:52
Congrats Warwick -yer not callin him mike r u. Sorry mate well done and I hope you are all well. Magical moments- you have blogged I watched The Deliverance 4 hours after. Funny thing is I put a tenner on a horse called duellin banjos that day it won 7-2! No I am not from Newbiggin. ALL THE BEST!
58 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:53
punk skunk you workin again!?
59 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:54
When are fans going to see where daiv and angryman are saying!!
we may not be the richest but we are dam close!! a massive fanbase a 52000 seater modern stadium! 12 richer club in europe possibly world!! 5th richest i n premiership!! so where is the money going?????
yes the transfer market has only been open for a couple of weeks but do you really think things are going to get better?? what happens if it doesn’t ??and we have to put up with the same as last season!! we have been overtaken by portsmouth, man city, everton, villa!! do we really want that?? because thats whats happened!! and happening!!
Ashley couldnt give a crap about us or the club as long as its bringing in money!!
we deserve a lot better!!
we are depending on our reserves!!! we defo F***ED!!! were being shafted and fans cant even see it!!!
60 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:57
Alright Tam,
aye mate, covering for someone else, grrrrrr!..
…In tomorra an’arl!..
…How Warwick, don’t call him Isacc either…
61 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 22:57
Mike Ashley is our saviour. If you believe that you have my permission to jump off a cliff right now.
62 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:00
HPS- Firstly I remember you slagging me for some knob pinching my handle and saying Inler had signed. Secondly I would have done the same myself. Thirdly- You may be right you may be wrong.BUT- Facts are the timer is running out and you never save big signings to the last minute. Looks like to me there are no big signings at all! We would have had a glimmer of one by now.Keep the faith.
63 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:01
HPS
Smith is our saviour. Say no more!!!
64 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:03
HPS, it’s fair enough what you guys are sayin’ & all that…But, what are we gonna do?..It’s not like we’re gonna stop supporting the Toon!?!..
…Yea, we can not buy tickets, merch & the like, but how’s that gonna help?..
…Any suggestions?..
65 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:04
Punk skunk- Nowt worse mate hope you are getting it back! Hope tomorrows the last one. I’m in 3 x 12.5 hours thurs-sat then a wedding do. Well it should be a pi– up.
66 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:04
tam toon I apologise about that!! the problem is what happens if nothing changes apart from the increased prices!! what can we do!!?? then!!
67 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:06
daiv - yes duff as well!!!!
68 Rubber Guard // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:07
Kadar looks a talent and a year playing 1st team football will benefit him. I’ve watched him play for the reserves since he came and he and Edgar were both impressive alongside each other
69 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:07
Aye Tam, i’m owed, big time!..
…Divvant gan snoggen’ the bride mind!..
70 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:07
Punk Skunk
What we gonna do?
Wait. If MA buys large as he has no debt, applaud him.
If by 31 August 08 we turn up and he has bought £1M Guthrie and the like, chant him out the stands into the champagne glass in the directors box. Then he will have tos ell.
71 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:10
HPS apology great. I know mate we are in limbo. Trouble is we all used to pull together now it has us divided. You can see things from all sides, because no one really knows. We have got to stick together though i remember personally pissed fuelled days at Shrewsbury , Cardiff ,Luton , Swansea. Things were bad but we just kept supporting the team, thats all we can ever do mate-whatever.
72 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:10
here here daiv!!! im resting my voice for that day!!!
73 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:14
HPS
Agreed. Duff is useless. Any chance Smith might score 30 league goals this season? After all he has to justify no goals and no assists all last season. Perhaps KK can get him to score 40 goals. KK is good but do you believe he can get Smith and £1M players to compete against top 4? A miracle manager. I believe he’s great but not GOD. Some here think he can develop average palyers into world class. living in cuckoo land.
74 Matt // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:16
Aimar done deal, turned down Pompey and Benfica to sign for us. £7 million.
75 Smells like Ghoti // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:17
aye warwick, dinna call hin caniseemy as well (welsh)
76 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:19
Punk skunk I won’t mate she is a miserable c—. Me snoggin won’t help! It’s in Pegswood as well ! Last time I was at a wedding do there, I pushed the dj out of the way. He had just started playing Elton puff’s I wanna kiss the bride. I started singing I wanna piss on the bride -result not happy! Don’t blame them though I woke the next morning thinking -you dick -why- he he Oh no. Another good man away, he is an eyetie but without the bottle or knife! Get the payback for the shift mate! ps I would have killed me if that was done at my wedding I am going red thinking about it.
77 Smells like Ghoti // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:19
though congrats!!!! nappies crappies nappies
78 Angryman the angry fantasist // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:19
Warwick. Congrats. The bong is half full.
79 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:22
Matt,
Read it in the SUN then? 28 year old offload does not seem like the type of player we are trying to buy.
80 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:24
Tam toon
incomprehensible. Go to bed. Sound pissed. serious blogging only!!
81 Matt // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:29
No Daiv, I didn’t read it in the Sun.
82 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:29
I would expect us to sign Inler, Turan, Arshavin and Gomis tomorrow. That is incomprehensible Daiv. Also not very serious
83 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:29
I would give Aimar a chance sayn I cant see us getting better! KK maybe able to turn him around!! if we gave Smith and duff a chance!!
84 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:30
Show us the link then Matt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
85 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:31
Matt
Any chance you might want to reveal your source to rest of Geordie natiuon or just a wind up?
86 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:33
Thought you said £11m signing earlier?..
…Don’t tell me, £4m in wages?..
87 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:34
I would like to see some quality signings before pre season!!! I should become a stand up comic!!
88 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:36
Daiv you pissed what is a natiuon? Get away to bed man.
89 Matt // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:38
I didn’t mention any fee earlier, I just said I was told that we were signing a quality player and that it would be in todays paper, he wouldn’t say who it was because he doesn’t want the word getting out until all papers have gone to print but he’s just said it’s Aimar.
£7 million, turned down Portsmouth and Benfica to come here, Sunderland were also interested.
90 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:39
Ok, i guess we’ll just have to judge yo’ ass tomorra then?.. Ha!..
91 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:39
Tam toon is signing off as this is his last blog- away to Poland in a week to work. As I thought if they are all over here who is looking after their women!Also daiv does not understand me. See you lads all the best, hope Lech has sky and setanta over there.
92 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:41
Have a good ‘un Tam!..
93 Bosck // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:43
daiv, mike ashley has not got a failed sports company it still made quite significant profits this year. yes they were down from last year but it was still a profit.
how you can call an owner tight, who pays £100m out of his own pocket to clear our debts, is a total joke.
as andy t i think it was pointed out the other day mike ashley is estimated to have around £1bn if you take the £250 million out that he has already invested in the club, this leaves him with only £750 million which although still a massive figure is still not too much in football equivalent terms. in reality mike ashley has already spent around a 1/4 of his fortune on the club, and while i expect him to invest in players still. he cannot just invest the rest of his fortune ad hoc with no planning or consideration. he is trying to build success from the ground up which is always the best way to do so. do you really think chelsea are a great team? i guarantee you when abramovich leaves they will be relegated in 3 seasons max as they are totally unsustainable.
mike ashley wants to invest in players and is willing to do so, which is why he is also looking for additional partners to help him do so. so please cut out the negativity towards mike ashley as your claims have absolutely no base in fact.
94 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:43
Cheers Punk- take care mate you have it harder than I do in Londin
95 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:44
have a good time mate!! dont spend to much in the brothels!!! Ha Ha!! only joking!!
96 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:45
Aye & aye!..
97 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:47
I wonder if MA, KK, wise etc get on here?? or is it just MA’s family!! or daiv are you kk??
98 Punk Skunk // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:48
HPS, LOL!..
99 daiv // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:53
Bosck
Mike Ashley’s dad perhaps? I’m tired of repeating myself. lets see by end of August what the club buys and King Kev’s take on it if he is still here. MA is businessman wanting to make a profit out of NUFC. he’s not our saviour but lets wait and see. Good night bosck.. no need to reply and no offence . Im tired. Black ansd white tilI die…. just disillusioned with MA.
100 geordie genius // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:53
Bosck - excellent words mate. BUT I THINK THAT MIKE A , DID NOT EXPECT THE CREDIT CRUNCH. IF HE DID HE WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT US-FACT. HIS BUSINESS SPORTS DIRECT IS A SHAMBLES. HE HAS MADE MONEY FROM IT , NOW IT WILL STRUGGLE-FACT. THEY DO NOT COMMUNICATE , A BUSINESS SIGN OF IMMINENT FALURE.
PEOPLE WILL BUY GOOD GEAR CHEAP NOW-NOT CRAP GEAR CHEAP HE HAS NO MARKETPLACE. CHAVS ARE ON THERE WAY OUT.
I AM NOT CRITICISING YOU I SEE WERE YOU ARE COMING FROM-WE NEED NEW OWNERS. geordie genius business diploma 2005 2006 2007 2008.
101 normski1930z // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:55
well just got back from graft and in the last twenty mins ive been reading …. i hate ashley …well i dont… go get pablo…nar hes shoyte…15 mil players coming tomoz….nar tomoz loan signing from the scousers…. my god why cant someone from the club just speak to us…is that too much to ask?????
102 AndyT // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:55
Daiv/HPS
Do you know the difference between revenue and wealth? Do you know the difference between profitability and liquidity and what that means in the context of possible cashflows? Have you actually looked at the accounts and worked out the revenue, wealth, available cash. If the answer is no to one of those questions then the simple fact is that you do not know what you are talking about. Cash has been pouring out of newcastle united since 2005. The club made losses in 2006 and 2007. In 2007 the loss they made was more than they spent on transfer fees meening it cost more to run the club than they earned. It doesn’t matter if you have the fifth highest revenue in the country and no debt if your opperating costs are higher than your income.
Is Mike Ashley a saviour - absolutely. He might not be the only person that could have saved Newcastle United. But I can tell you hand on heart that if someone had not in some way put several tens of millions of pounds into the club over the last 12 months it would right now be doing a Leeds and trying to sell players and as a PLC everyone would have known about it and so they would have probably been sold below their market value. The alternative would have been bankruptcy, a ten point fine and an administrator apointed to find a way out.
Yet your biggest gripe about the current owner is not even that he isn’t spending enough of his own cash on your entertainment (which to be honest right now he could have given every newcastle fan in the world a tenner and be better off and have a much better reputation), but that you are lining his pockets with the money you spend on the club, which is utter tripe.
Now to actually get around to one of the points that you do very validly make. We are one of the highest earning clubs in europe. We have the potential to be one of the richest clubs in Europe, but it wont happen until the club gets a grip on the money that is going out, i.e. lower wages, not overspending on transfers (still spending, but making sure its good value for money), in fact all of the things that the current management are doing.
To put it in simple terms, if you earn £100 a day, but pay £90 a day in taxis to get to work, the bloke that earns £50 a day and gets the bus for a fiver is richer than you.
103 tam toon // Jul 15, 2008 at 23:56
HPS- cheers I won’t mate! I expect them to be empty. The brothels I mean not me ba—s
104 Ally // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:01
just seen the back pages of the Mirror on Setanta Sports news and there is news on Aimar.
Matt i think ur right mate
105 daiv // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:02
Andy T
You are just another apologist for MA. Sorry but he just making excuses. He came her talking of overtaking MU. He read the accounts when he bought the club or if he didn’t more fool him. Now he claims he is a poor billionaire who cannot afford the club. Then get someone in who can.
106 tom tomb // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:04
NORMSKI- sorry I did not get back to you yesterday mate. It was the posting about the young french lad. I went to kip.
BIG — respect to you -I was a bit handy too and it seems trivial now ,but not then.
Sorry to hear about your mam and dad. You are a hard man, as you have lived it and you know it. Total respect to you, the bairns change it all. They are an amazing thing , you just don’t know what they bring. You are due respect as you admit it and you regret. You are due respect cos you are a major fan!
107 rory // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:05
Andyt, cracking post mate!
108 normski1930z // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:10
cheers tom tomb i was just keeping it real, yes back in the day i did loads of things that if im honest i am not proud of, but the little man has made me change my ways and i would honestly hate it if he went the same way as i did and i am going to do everything in my power to make sure that never happens… but once again cheers mate respect due to ya boss!!!
109 Chris // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:11
Andy T and Bosck, 2 of the best posts tonight . Daiv, yours are all tripe, keep whinging mate, but i’d rather listen to these lads that can actually see things logically than to take the huff cos Shepherd isn’t spending our money on overrated crap!
110 tom tomb // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:12
ANDYT - I made 25 million before tax last year. Please be my accountant! Just kidding that is a well explained post ( I made 7000 pa so did not trouble the tax man)
111 jeffa // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:13
i hope your right matt and not messing us around .
112 Ally // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:14
The headline is
AIMAR TOON STAR
113 normski1930z // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:17
if this thing about aimar is true(which i hope it is) i still think we really need the midfield enforcer, an aimar protector if you will…thoughts??
114 Chris // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:17
Jeffa, even if it does go to print, would you believe the Mirror.
I can see it now. Ashley and the team “well lads, we’ve kept everything hush hush up till now to keep the press of our backs, but lets just tell the Mirror that we’re signing Aimar just to undo all our hard work”.
Yeah right!
115 Ally // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:17
normski1930z i totally agree mate, any thoughts on who it cud possibly be?
116 AndyNUFC // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:17
Daiv, your post compared to AndyT’s was pathetic. Show some support for the club and the chairman.
117 tom tomb // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:18
Normski nae bother mate- enjoy the bairn. They are just magic, don’t worry about him following you. You are what you are now, that is what he will pick up.
My oldest is into art and is mega bright( honest ), the baby is like Joe Calzaghe! ( and lush) Both take after the wife !
You will do well mate and i wish you and the family all the best.
118 normski1930z // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:21
well ally i wish we could get miguel veloso but ya talking 20 mill there like, gokhan inler ? the jury is defo still out on him for me like… whats ya thoughts?
119 tom tomb // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:21
NIGHT LADS!
120 Matt // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:21
The thing is Chris there is only so much the club can keep quiet from their end, they can’t do anything about what agents and the selling team are saying.
Ally - AIMAR TOON STAR
I like the sound of that.
121 AndyNUFC // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:22
In response to Normski/Ally. I really don’t think we need an out and out defensive midfielder. Literally a box to box central midfielder like Barton/Guthrie would do the job for me. For me, the defending stops at the back line. If you have a good enough defense then you can concentrate on the other half of football, attack. Having a central midfielder (Barton), attacking (Aimar), and wingers (Jonas/Milner/Duff N’Zogbia) is a mouth watering prospect to provide world class strikers like Owen/Viduka/Martins with chances. Phillipe Albert, could defend and attack a bit, fit perfectly into KK’s team. I want attacking, exciting, and easy on the eye style play next season, not concentrating on holding midfielders.
122 normski1930z // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:22
cheers tom same back to you mate….
123 AndyT // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:23
Daiv,
You’re perfectly entitled to that opinion, but obviously I’m going to disagree.
I’m a disapointed newcastle united fan that would like to see us spending millions on top quality players, I just happen to work in finance and understand why we’re not. I can also see why the current policy probably means another (possibly 2) season of medicrity, but that it will in the longer run improve the club. I care about the club so I try to use my own expertise to help other suporters understand what is going on with their club.
If its any consolation I think Mike Ashley got a lot of shocks when he bought the club. I dont think he expected to have to clear the debt imediately, but a combination of the clauses in the agreements that meant that the banks could demand their money back if the ownership was changed, which they promptly did. The 2007 accounts are the ones that contain the 30 million pound loss. They weren’t available until after he launched his takover.
You keep saying he should sell to someone who will do better. One question. Who?
124 Ally // Jul 16, 2008 at 0:23
yeah matt i just seen it on Setanta, i remember you saying something about the mirror tomoro so i made a point of watching the box for tomoros papers!