The Newcastle United club’s new policy of attracting young talent and then developing them has only just been put in place.
Tim Krul - 20 year-old goalkeeper wants to leave Newcastle
Yet it looks like we’ll be losing one of our best young players soon, since 20 year old 6’2″ goalkeeper Tim Krul looks set to move to Dutch club Herenveen.
Tim has been at the club exactly 3 years this month, since he was signed by Graeme Souness, but it seems like it is the player himself who wants the transfer, whereas the club would obviously like to keep him and loan him out for a season.
But with  Given and Harper both in top form, and local youngster Fraser Forster having emerged after making great strides over the last year or so, Tim probably doesn’t see a clear path through to the first team, or even to the subs bench.
Tim’s a great young lad, he is also a top prospect, and he’s also ambitious and seemingly looking for first team football next season, somewhere.
As we have reported, Heerenveen, Feyenoord and Chelsea are all interested in signing Krul this summer, and it looks like it is Herenveen that has stolen a march on the other clubs, at least in Tim’s eyes.
Herenveen have offered £2M, and that offer appears to have convinced the player.
Tim told the Dutch media:
“This is a club that offered the most to me,†“So that already gives me a special feeling.”
“If Feyenoord make an offer, I am always open to a beautiful adventure in the south of Rotterdam. But we are as good as there (with Heerenveen).â€
Krul spent last season on loan to Scottish Premier League side Falkirk, where he gained rave reviews in his 22 appearances.
Newcastle also have top young goalkeeper Ole Soderberg of Sweden in the ranks, and while he turns just 18 years old tomorrow (July 20th), he is also tipped as a future top player.
Scout Piet de Visser has said the twice capped Dutch Under-21 international will become Edwin van der Sar’s long-term replacement at Holland, and his opinion is highly-regarded. It seems that he may have also encouraged Chelsea to go after the player, since he is close to Chelsea owner, Russian Billionaire Roman Abramovich.
Chelsea may want to buy Krul and immediately loan him to PSV, though that would be a bad deal for Newcastle, since if he’s going out on loan Newcastle should keep him.
It also looks like if Tim leaves, it’s becasue he wants first team football, which he would have an excellent chance of getting at the Herenveen club, he’s that good.
We hope we can keep young Tim at the club, but if we cannot, at least we have made £2M on the player in 3 seasons, so it was a good deal signing him as a youngster. Tim also was a success as he has developed as expected into a top class prospect.
That £2M will help Newcastle being in other players hopefully.
However, the main purpose in our youth policy is to develop young players so they then play in the Newcastle first team, but we’re not going to be able to satisfy them all, and some will need to move on.
That almost sounds like what Arsenal do – so maybe we are on the right track with our youth policy. Th young top players is one thing at the club that is really exciting right now, and watching our young reserve side next season, will be interesting, to say the least.
Now we need 5 top players for the first team squad and Newcastle’s garden will be rosy again.
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62 responses so far ↓
1 Will // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Doesn’t make a bit of sense.
2 Yorkie Dave // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:17 AM
if he is Van Der Sars long term replacement then we should keep him loan him to a dutch club for 2 years and then bring him back to our first team!!!!!
3 craig // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:19 AM
whats goin on i thought we was looking for young talent and he is a good keeper
4 Alex // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:20 AM
I cant find any news of this here in holland .There is nothing about it on heerveens web site or on the web sites of the dutch news papers .
5 Michael // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM
What is the point in selling him for 2 million. 2 million won’t buy you anything in todays market. Whats worse is he’ll probably go on to have a great career somewhere else and be sold on for 10 million. You don’t buy youngsters and sell them for a profit while they are still youngsters.
Disgrace if the club sell him, he’s unhappy because he wants first team football, so we should loan him out then in 2-3 years he can come back and challenge for the number 1 spot.
I say we report Heerenveen for unsettling our player.
6 craig chisholm // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM
he should be staying, we need to give him some time on the bench and give him some of the cup games to bring him on and let him see that we want him and that there is a future for him with us. so much for our youth policy.
7 cardiff_toon_ultra // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM
he obviously doesnt want to stay himself by the sounds of things. let him go i say, obviously doesnt remember the first keegan era!
8 DanToon // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Ashley is i hypocrite if this happens, i wont beleave a word he says ever again!
9 neil009 // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:24 AM
We should keep Tim Krul and get rid of either Shay of Steve Harper. Krul is the future. The new Iker Casillas.
10 Ed Harrison // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Howaythelads – the ideas is to sign the youngsters in their teens, before they are known. Great example is Fabregas of Arsenal – Arsenal bought him as 16 year old from Barcelona for around 2M – now he’s 21 years old – a great player and worth a whole lot more. David Bentley is 23 and now priced at way over 10M – too late on him – the whole idea is to develop young players so we don’t have to pay the huge transfer fees once they develop into top players – that’s the strategy in any case.
11 Bill F SPLASH THE CASH ASH // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM
I just hope this is more cr*p paper talk, similar to the rest of the cr*p paper talk we have been getting.
12 iain // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:28 AM
2m for the keeper once described as the best young keeper in europe, when carson goes for 3 or 4m ???? hope its not true.
if its true it shows imo that wise et all dont have a clue what there up to.
i would even go as far to say if he does get sold keegan will have a lot to answer for, whether he wants out or not.
best solution imo is extend his deal then loan to a dutch club for as long as it takes for him to replace harper/given.
from what ive seen forster isnt fit to lace this lads boots and i hate saying that about a local lad but its true.
13 Jim // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM
How many keepers can you keep happy at a club? With Given, Harper Forster and Soderberg I think the positions covered. The management must have decided the lad’s the last in line so it’s a huge vote of confidence in Soderberg.
There are some narrow minded plums that seem to constantly moan about Newcastle’s decisions or non decisions, year in, year out and it doesn’t half get on my man lumps. Why not do one and offer another lucky club your half arsed support.
Good luck Krul.
PS… Is anyone going to the match today? If so, any chance of writing up a small report on here?
14 Hammy // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:39 AM
The only problem with buying impressionable teenagers is that if they are any good and not in the first team, somebody waves a wad of cash in their face and they are off, it’s no use complaining, how do you think we got N’Zogbia and Baheng? I bet Le Havre fans weren’t too happy then either…..
15 obaistheman // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Check this out, hilarious mike ashley http://www.football365.com/lookalikes/0,17093,8754_3095917,00.html
16 Michael // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Ed
We know that is the strategy, but in this case we bought him on the cheap, now we are selling him on the cheap, before hes achieved anywhere near his potential. Hardly comparable to what Arsenal do.
Heerenveen are the clever ones here. A smaller club than us signing him on the cheap, give him first team football so he attracts the attention of europes elite, then sell him for a very healthy profit.
17 Leo // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM
i will be soo angry if we loose him for the meesely sum of 2mil, angry if we loose him full stop because he is a top talent keegan has to be given the chance to change his mind and get him excited about being our future number one.
18 AndyNUFC // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:43 AM
This is the only youth player worth keeping, it will be a ****ing disgrace if we let him go, we can see, Falkirk can see, Chelsea can see, that he really is the next big thing.
19 dick // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM
thats the trouble with bringing on young players if any of them are any good a bigger club is going to buy them off a selling club club like the toon, then your back to square one, some clubs survive like that,I wonder if thats the way ashley wants to take the toon
20 Marguerite // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Hope this is papertalk. He needs to be kept at NUFC – one of the best youth players on our books and the reported £2m for him
is an insult.
21 Hammy // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM
What goes around comes around…
22 AndyNUFC // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM
It’s not like we signed any youth players out of this world though… Krul is maybe the best goalkeeper in the world at his age. His save on youtube for Falkirk is UNREAL, please toon loan him out to whoever you want but keep him.
23 KEVIN BROCK & HIS SOCK // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I see Chimbonda is at Sunderlands training ground for talks – who reckons he’ll be heading up the A19 for talks in Newcastle later this morning?? Then making his choice???
24 autibo // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM
as many have said we really need to keep this kid – he’s played once and was the single reason for our last great european victory!!
send the lad on loan for 2 season to heerenveen or feyenoord and then bring him back as number one, as shay and harper will be finished by then!! krul is far better than forster!!
25 Jim // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Slightly off topic but has anyone noticed the news that Solano’s off to the States to compete with Beckham on the RW!
From the Journal in a Krul article this morning:
“Meanwhile, former Newcastle favourite Nolberto Solano will be competing for a place with David Beckham after signing a two-year deal to become LA Galaxy’s second most famous right-sided midfielder.”
And here’s a weird article/photo of him I think most of us missed:
http://www.epltalk.com/nolberto-solano-loses-his-mind/2428
26 aqmin // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:54 AM
if he really wants to go, let him go..
but with one condition..
put in a buy-back clause on the deal, say 3m and the deal is done… after 2 years, just get him back to tyneside and let’s start making a legend after that..
27 beye the great // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:55 AM
gutted if he leaves falkirk fans are saying he could be as good as buffon and if you remember the commentator compared him to schemichael
28 Will // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I must also tip my hat to Souness for actually making at least one positive difference at our club.
29 Toon 85 // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Gutted if we sell him, excellent young keeper
30 AndyNUFC // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:13 AM
So much for Solano wanting to be closer to his family!
31 HATE PRAWN SANDWICHES // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM
autibo – must agree keep krul and sell forster!!
we should at least be looking at only a load deal!!
for example look at man u and J.Evans!!
32 meiny_obano9 // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM
we shouldnt sell tim krul. do u all remember his performance for us against palermo. that was outstanding and it was his debut. he is possibly gonna be one ov the best keepers in the world so we shouldnt let him go.
33 Seymour Butts // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Got a feeling we’ll deeply regret this in a few years if we do sell him.
34 NEZSURF // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I live up in scotland and have seen krul play for falkirk on a couple of occasions, unfortunately he dislocated a shoulder in the game i seen him play against aberdeen, and was sent off in the other game. however the falkirk fans i have spoken to rate him highly. Maybe the dislocated shoulder might be a worry, especially where a keeper is concerned.
35 reillers // Jul 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM
What do ye expect. The kids a good keeper and will not, unless by some freak accident both Given and Harper get injured and then there’s Forster as well. If he’s that good, I haven’t seen him much to be honest then we shouldn’t keep him. It’s all ready sinful enough that one of Given or Harper will be sitting on the bench when they’d walk in to nearly any other team. Sell Krul, or at least loan him to a club where he’ll be no.1 keeper it’ll be good for him. We can’t hang on to him based on the fact that in 3 years he could be amazing, it’s not fair on him or the other keepers at the club. It’s more then a wee bit greedy and unfair to be honest. We can’t just hold on to a keeper or any player for the sake of it if we know full well they’re not going to get near the first team any time soon.
36 Hadji // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Come on you big chunk of fat,suprise the Geordie nation and sign Aquilani from Roma.
37 Michael // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Krul is better than forster, get rid of him instead.
38 toon badger // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM
though I dont want to see him leave, mainly due to his performance against Palermo, we do have another 2 young keepers in Local lad Fraser Forster and the 6’5″ swede who’s name escapes me just now. Clearly if we are to sell KK believes the other 2 are just as good if not better.
39 ArtyH // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM
NUFC should not be selling Krull he should be loaned out only.
40 chuck // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:35 PM
What on earth is going on with this club, its like a Kafkaesque nightmare.
Going to get rid of two apparently gifted young players Krul & Carrol.
Did I miss something , I was under the assumption the policy was to buy young player and develope them as do Arsenal ?
I hate to keep saying it but this club is in deep shit, which can only be laid at Ashleys door.
We complained about the former ownership, but in retrospect, you could hardly call them parsimonious.
If theres no change of direction soon, we may be looking at a relegation bound club, every dog in the street can see it.
41 MichaelA // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Chuck, whilst your word of the day toilet paper seems to have come in very handy. It has massively exaggerated the situation we find ourselves in.
If Ashley hadn’t come in, then ‘hello leeds’.
It seems people forget the last few seasons have brought nothing but frustration and disappointment. To expect a cash injection on the field and turn into a top5 club again is another panic quick fix. That’s what Arsenal don’t do.
Letting Krul go now leaves us with 4 keepers, 2 veterans and 2 potentials. Shame, but makes sense.
42 Terry Mac's Crossword // Jul 19, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Krul is the best natural goal keeper at our club. FACT. Perhaps we should get used to seeing young talent like him leaving for a profit. I hate to be a negative nelly but who’s next Kadar, Zamblera, Tozer? Are we now essentially an academy for nurturing talent and selling on for profit? I thought he whole idea was to prep them for the first team. Boy was i naive!
He’s not been sold yet…calm blue ocean, calm blue ocean.
43 micepie // Jul 19, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Though I would prefer it if we kept him, it’s not going to greatly bother me if we let him go just because it’s the one position we have well covered at senior and youth level. We should ask 3M of more though. Ot, hang on, a further 2M if he makes the senior Cutch side? Some kind of clause.
Having said that, I don’t believe we should let any of our “outfield” prospects go, and I’m hoping we can add more this summer, especially in mf. When any player reaches 20, if good enough, it’s around that time that we should be making him feel part of the first team even if it’s only the odd half an hour of the 90 every now and again to start with. Unfortunately we can’t so easily do that with Krul.
44 AngerOfTheNorth // Jul 19, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Does anyone here have a clue whether he’s better than Forster or Soderburg?
Either way, try to have a bit of sense in your heads. Why would the club sell a top young player for that amount if he really is a top young player? If they’re that stupid they’d be looking for a buyer for Beye, Butt, Owen, Taylor and co by now…
He might not have developed as well as he was expected to. He might have some dodgy injury. He might simply be nowhere nearly as good as either Soderburg or Forster, therefore leaving him with no chance of moving onto the first team.
Besides, when have the papers had the blindest clue what we’re up to transfer-wise this summer? They might be right for once, but they’re hardly in good form at the moment.
Either way, the club management will be doing what’s best for the club. Any player sold will be sold so that we can bring in better player(s). They’re not stupid, for crying out loud…
45 Paul141726 // Jul 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Please, please keep this player. I don’t care if we make his agent or teams that want him unhappy, he is our future and need to loan him out one more year and then he gets first team consideration next year even if Given or Harper need to be dealt away. I hate to state that last bit, but if we don’t keep a player who some say is perhaps the best keeper in Europe, someone needs their head examined.
46 Jim // Jul 19, 2008 at 1:46 PM
AngeroftheNorth… I’m with you.
47 iain // Jul 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM
maybe just maybe i could stomach selling him for i good fee ie near 10m becuase thats what a keeper of his age and ability is worth and we could use the money.
but wtf would an extra 2m buy us ??? nothing that would justify loosing the best young keeper in europe. like to see try and get the best young cf/mf player in europe for 2m.
honestly this club is its own worst enemy at times.
48 Geordie Gerrard7 // Jul 19, 2008 at 2:22 PM
wtf are we doing selling krul?? he could be a great great keeper in a couple of years.
49 harrier // Jul 19, 2008 at 2:25 PM
why do people blame ashley for this? keegan is in charge of transfers
50 harrier // Jul 19, 2008 at 2:26 PM
gg7 i think he wants to leave because we have 5 competing keepers and he doesn’t think he will get a look in
51 Ed Harrison // Jul 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Hadji – Ole Soderburg
52 SwedeEric // Jul 19, 2008 at 3:07 PM
2M pound got us Beye and Faye last year…
Would like to se him stay, but can´t se him being in a starting 11, or even on the bench for many seasons… Gues that´s why he wants a move…
53 Slam Dunc // Jul 19, 2008 at 3:29 PM
This is ashleys new approach to the Academy, stack em high sell em cheap, the Sports direct model:
http://www.trophy4toon.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=322.0
lol
54 Mitch H // Jul 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM
@ iain
“maybe just maybe i could stomach selling him for a good fee, near 10m. Becuase thats what a keeper of his age and ability is worth”.
Planet earth calling iain,…. hello, can you hear us….are u recieving, over?
55 Mitch H // Jul 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Exactly 52 SwedeEric ,
He’s a top young keeper by all accounts.
However, its very difficult for the club to keep hold of him, if he’s determined to make a move to a club that can offer him first team football.
The young lad’s very ambitious & talented, so he’s obviously keen to move on & gain experience.
IF Keegan carnt promise him at least the bench, its going to be very difficult to pursuade him to stay.
One would think that the obvious answer would be to loan him out to a decent club where he feels he can develop further. Maybe an extended loan deal.
If not, then the club has to make sure we benifit from his sale.
2 mllion, with some extra add on’s, if the lad plays for his country etc. That way, if he does fulfill his potential, we are financially compensated?
56 Mitch H // Jul 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM
3-1 up against the Pool’s.
Guthrie scores a cracking goal from edge of the box.
57 D.C. // Jul 19, 2008 at 5:46 PM
This is an absolutely stupid sell if it happens.
58 daiv // Jul 19, 2008 at 7:34 PM
The ashley policy is to buy promising youngsters and develop them into quality players. So that they play for NUFC or to sell them to support Ashleys business? seems like we are getting to know the answer. If you believe this press story.
59 the voice of reason // Jul 19, 2008 at 10:01 PM
from memory he was signed on a five year deal and I believe theres still three + years left on that…therefore there is no need to sell, especially below market value…strange that yet again the big club involved here is top four Chelsea this time…I think the top four have decided that seen as EUFA decided that they were not going to do anything about Real tapping up Ronaldo then they would start tapping up anyone they fancied…so any youth they want are fair game… good on Spurs for deciding enough was enough….pity we havent had the guts to do the same…Villa for milner for instance…bout time we either sold these players or said to everyone sod off our players aint for sale…notice none of them have actually put bids in its tapping up… and EUFA need to stop it now…
60 Anthony // Jul 20, 2008 at 5:09 AM
absolutely stupid to sell him…loan him out 2 years, he can challenge our first team
even if he really wants to leave, we still need to make sure we have our first option and buy-back clause in the deal
what’s the point of signing youngsters (while he is the best one so far) if we arnt going to keep them or even give them away with the price like 2M
61 Ericles // Jul 20, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Listen to the sense Michael is saying. If we sell a cracker like Krul then NUFC is just indulging in a meat market like other clubs. That must not be our way. Krul is the obvious replacement for both Given and Harper. A disgrace if we sell Krul. Report these tapping up clubs now. Time some of these agents and reporters were taken down an alleyway!
62 Ericles // Jul 20, 2008 at 8:23 AM
I really do hope NUFC are not going to get invloved in a meat market. We must keep Krul as a future star keeper at St James Park. He will be the future Dutch international keeper I am sure. In the meantime report other clubs to UEFA if he is being tapped up!
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