Problems With Jonas Gutierrez Registration


We thought it was a bit odd that the registration of our new signing, Jonas Gutierrez,  hadn’t come through to allow him to play last Saturday, but it’s more complicated then just a delay in ordinary paperwork.

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Jonas Gutierrez – problems with Mallorca and registration

It turns out that Real Mallorca have not released the Argentine’s registration, because they are appealing to FIFA about the move.

Jonas bought himself out of his contract with them, and they are appealing to FIFA, in an attempt to get a significantly bigger transfer fee from Newcastle.

But Newcastle United and Gutierrez simply played by the rules, as laid down by FIFA’s Article 17, though we must say it seems a bit tough on the selling club.

Mallorca President Vicente Grande has reported both Newcastle and the player to FIFA in a bid to claim £8M in compensation they believe they are entitled to. But Gutierrez only took advantage of FIFA’s existing rules, so everything seems to have been legally above board as far as we know.

Newcastle have done absolutely nothing wrong legally, but Mallorca are obviously, and probably justifiably upset they got so little for their best player, after almost selling him to Portsmouth in January for £8M (10M euro).

To make things worse for Mallorca, the club is in dire financial straights right now, with former chairman Freddy Shepherd even trying to buy the club.

But there was news nly yesterday that both Shepherd and an unnamed Russian investor had lost out to entrepreneur Paul Davidson, who won the race to buy the La Liga side.

This lack of documentation prevented Gutiérrez playing in last Saturday’s good 4-1 win at Hartlepool, but the bad news is that it is now expected to also keep him out of Saturday’s game at Doncaster, and maybe even the pre-season tournament taking place – of all places – Mallorca.

You couldn’t make this stuff up – they just wouldn’t believe you.    😀

So it may be that the talented player, who Kevin is telling Newcastle fans is just great, is likely to make his Newcastle debut against PSV Eindhoven on August 6th, but that’s just 10 days before the Premier League season starts.

We must bring new players into the club soon
, and a couple of good ones this week would be nice, so we can concentrate on more positive things at the club.

Two signings so far, and one has some legal question marks – so let’s get some others in quickly.

Comments welcome.



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32 comments so far

  • Will

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #1

    How can this happen? what a joke.

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  • Hatty

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed, please don’t tell me this info is from the Sunderland supporting Louise Taylor from the Guardian. She continually writes rubbish about our club. I wouldn’t believe it for a second.

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  • Hatty

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #3

    Oh and Ed, Keegan said the other day that the registration should be sorted soon, and we’ve known for ages that he wasn’t going to be able to play in the Majorca tournament.

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  • Stami

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #4

    and i was having such a good day…

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  • craig f

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #5

    The club has said since we signed Jonas that he would would not make his debut unitl the PSV game

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  • Dev

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #6

    The shady part of this new rule is that clubs will just give the player the oney he needs to buy himself out.

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  • Dev

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #7

    money*

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  • dan_from_france

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #8

    come on newastle sign some one now im getting fed up with seeing every one going ahead of us we need to improve big time just to stay in the top 10 if not were in for trouble this year like last. we need to get people in through the heavenly gates of newcastle. im normally optismitic but here when you look at all the other teams around u there buying big players like jo £18 million us 2 plyers £2-3 million. good save some money youve done that MA but now use that money u saved to buy some real quality. yes weve got some good players but theyre all injury prone owen, viduka on their day they are great but we got none to fill the void when they are not there same in midfield and ion defense. we could be stuffed ihope not but im starting to get worrried

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  • Neil

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #9

    Maybe this rule will come back to bite us with say….Michael Owen if we don’t get his contract sorted out soon. I can’t believe the press haven’t jumped on this band-waggon yet about Owen!

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  • MO

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #10

    to be honest, if i was a mallorca supporter and this happened id be so pissed. imagine owen jst walking out now for peanuts i feel sorry for them but another mans loss if another mans gain.

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  • Davies

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #11

    Sour grapes. They could end up getting in trouble themselves if they don’t release his registration. What he’s done is perfectly legal.

    They should be very careful in the way they behave, as I’d imagine a hefty fine would be back breaking for them at the moment.

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  • Leo

    Jul 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #12

    damn it i hope they arnt going to balls up our spidermans pre season

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  • Ericles

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #13

    Oh what a fine mess we have got ourselves into – so would say Laurel and Hardy. Beginning to think they are organising transfers!

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  • DanToon

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #14

    So we’ve only signed one player this summer in a way = Guthrie lol.

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  • HeronMag

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #15

    If anyone’s interested in Article 17 Nick Harris of the Independent wrote this excellent summary:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/stars-will-buy-into-pay-as-you-go-system-436166.html

    Check out how many of the players mentioned at the bottom left for ‘undisclosed fees’

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  • Lords

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #16

    So they were happy to accept the money he payed them to buy up his contract but wont release his registration and are now demanding more money in the way of compensation for losing him? hmm. Its not his fault that Mallorca were mug enough not to sell him for 8mill 6month ago.
    Ronaldo was talking about slavery the other day, this case is more like slavery than his…….

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  • Hatty

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #17

    Ed, you do realise you’re reporting this as fact, when it was written by a Sunderland supporting journalist who has a reputation for stirring Newcastle stories.

    It’s no wonder that people get so negative if you keep posting stories like this as if they are gospel.

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  • Spyro

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #18

    Waste Ham look like they could be signing Behrami, we should have gone in for him, better than Sebasstion Larsson

    It is becoming so easy to distinguish the bull**** from the more accurate articles on newsnow.

    e.g. Newcastle Offer Cash & N’Zogbia For Celtic’s McGeady – Reports = BULL****!

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  • OLIVER

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #19

    Cant wait to see jonas in his first game. I have heard good things from scouring the internet.

    If the season was to start tomorrow with no more signings for any teams, where does everyone think we would finish. Our lack of depth means we would struggle quite badly in my opinion.

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  • gorskino10

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #20

    If he used FIFA rules they should be ok buti bet there holding it off until decision on appeal, also today in The Sun they say we have offered N Zogbia plus 5mill for Aiiden “Overated” Mcgeedy, please no he is so overated its stupid hes on par with some championship players which is saying alot but he gets away with it being in scotland anyone can play good in scotland look at Boomsong :).

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  • ANON

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #21

    they may just be being awkward, sour grapes if you will but they were bought this morning for £50m by some English plumber. that may or may not affect their claim

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  • JJ

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #22

    GREAT NEWS!!!

    I cant tell you who I am…. but we are definately getting in a couple signings on Friday.

    The one guy is a Afganistan legend and is refered to us by Osama Bin Laden. Wada Lodabullkak: apparently he is the new Kaka.
    Then we getting Colombian great, Cantsay Whothefagiam. He has just come through the youth ranks and fits perfectly into our youth policy.
    Finally the BIG NAME we have all been waiting for:
    RAFAEL VAN DER VAART’s twin brothers stepsons uncle, CHRISTOPHER CORNILIUS BAGGERFOND VAN DER VAART.
    You dont get a much bigger name in the world of football.
    Things are looking up lads.
    Once again, sorry I cant disclose my identity : ).

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  • Faustino

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #23

    Oh shut up you tart.

    “There was never any chance of me leaving and going to England this summer.”

    Mcgeady, six days ago after signing new contract.

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  • brownrob

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #24

    Is that you Roy Keane? What did we say about posting on other blogs!!!

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  • GM

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #25

    JJ 🙂 lol

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  • bingo wing

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #26

    well u can tell thats a lie cause if he was his ‘step’son uncle he wouldnt be called van der vaart. Also does any one know if jonas g speaks english?????/

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  • WesToon

    Jul 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #27

    Hopefully like KK has said,his registration will be sorted out SOON,cnt wait to see him play

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  • toonfanjonny

    Jul 23, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #28

    it should all be fine the only club that could be eligable for compensation is velez

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  • dan_from_france

    Jul 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #29

    i read that jonas has a simple understanding of the english language but expects a bit help from enrike

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jul 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #30

    Err Jonas speaks perfect english, haven any of you seen his interview on nufcTV?

    He speaks better english than that chav Alan Smith.

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  • Steven

    Jul 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #31

    Well if they in financial trouble then they better try sell then shouldn’t they. Sheperd was reported to be interested in buying the club. The saddest thing about this story seems to be the fact that we don’t seem to wanna spend any money. Would we have got Jonas any other way?

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  • wilko

    Jul 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #32

    completely different subject, but just watched shearers best goals on you tube, he really was the greatest. watching his goals now are just as exciting as seeing them before when they happened. will we ever see another like him. HOPE SO ONE DAY , ALAN SHEARER WE WILLLOVE YOU FOREVER !!

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