Shola Ameobi, who looked hopeless again last night, has had the misfortune to pick up an injury, when he limped off during Newcastle United’s 1-0 defeat to Hertha Berlin.
Shola Ameobi - will not be at Newcastle come September
This is bad news because the club want to unload Shola before the end of the month, and like his strike partner last night, Alan Smith, they are not good enough for Kevin’s squad - at least that’s our opinion.
Those are the only two fit strikers Newcastle have right now, and we could have done a lot worse than fly out Italian Under-19 youngster Fabio Zamblera, and given him a 45 minute run out in one of the games.
Ameobi apparently felt his hamstring in the second half, and was replaced by Damien Duff in the 59th minute. The good news is that Shola will be out just 10 days, so there’s still time to unload him before August 31st comes around.
Ameobi told the Shields Gazette today:
“I felt my hamstring tighten up, and, as soon as I felt that, I came off. Hopefully, I caught that in time.”
“I’m just hoping this little niggle won’t hold me back, as I need to stay fit.”
There are a few clubs that have tracked Shola, but there’s just two things stopping them, his transfer price is too high, and his current wages at Newcastle are too high.
That’s the real reason he hasn’t been moved out - sounds too familiar doesn’t it.
Ameobi added:
“I still want to be a Newcastle United player, and I still am. That’s where my focus is.”“I had quite a few injuries last season.”
“There were different things that kept me back, and stopped me being as fit as I should have been.”
“I missed a lot of pre-season last year with a thigh problem, and that’s what held me back. I wasn’t fit enough to challenge for a place in the team.”
“This season I’ve made sure I’ve been right. I’ve worked very hard. The manager wants us to be one of the fittest teams in the league.”
We heard the same thing from Shola before last season started, but he still managed to have his worst season ever at the club. Too much talk and not enough action, is what’s wrong here.
Newcastle are willing to let him go for the right price – understood to be £3M – and Ameobi is well aware of this.
However, we think we’ll do very well to get £3M for him, and we wouldn’t be at all surprised if we accept any offer over £2M that we get before the end of August.
Shola continued:
“I’m still a Newcastle United player, and I have to be professional about it,” “Whatever happens in the next month or so, I have to make sure my head’s right.”
“Football’s a frustrating game at times, but you have to keep your head up and hope for the best.” “This is the fittest I’ve been in a few years, and hopefully, that can translate into playing more games. I need to improve my form.”
“I have to look after myself, and, no matter how much I love the club, I have to satisfy my need for first-team football.” “I’m working hard. Fitness has been a big issue for me in the last two or three years.”
“I’ve made sure I’ve had a good pre-season by keeping myself fit over the summer.” “Regardless of what’s happening I have to be professional, make sure my body’s right, and that I’m in the right frame of mind.”
“It’s just about me keeping up my fitness – that’s the main thing for me.” “The last couple of years have been frustrating for me.”
“I need to be playing, regardless of how much I love the club.”
When you look at who’s left in the squad right now, the club have made an excellent job of getting rid of fringe players and those that were overpaid for what they gave back to the side.
Assuming Shola moves on, the only other player we’d still like to move out is Alan Smith.
Why?
Because he’s just not good enough for the team, and he’ll get very few games this season if he continues the very poor form he’s displayed this year.
What do you think - let us know.
Comments welcome - but keep them civil - thanks.
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153 responses so far ↓
1 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 18:45
Im sorry but it happens EVERY SINGLE transefer window. Shola Bambi-obi ALWAYS claims he’s injured (cant sell an injured player can we, how will he pass a medical?) In the past the guys needed hip surgery, then when the window slams shut this pillock then makes an amazing recovery!
Get Out Of My Club you complete waiste of space!
2 Rob Davis // Aug 2, 2008 at 18:48
Alan Smith is world class and we should definitely keep him.
3 51times // Aug 2, 2008 at 18:51
Dondatta - You’re saying Ameobi got hip surgery he didn’t need just to stay at the club? Do you realise what a fool you sound?
And if it’s ‘your’ club because you support Newcastle, isn’t it his too as he’s a Toon fan as well? Surely he has more of a right to call it his club, as he’s actually played for the first team.
4 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 18:58
No what Im saying is …. transfer window opened, he was in need of surgery. Said player didnt get surgery during that window. Window closed, said player suddenly feels better and makes himself available. I shall try and come back with dates and windows ..
5 Sparky G. // Aug 2, 2008 at 18:58
Shola and Alan… what can I say… never have two people deserved moves to League One more than them. Put them up for sale. Let’s sell them and cut our losses. The longer they stay, the worst the season will go for us.
6 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:01
51 Times, are you one of those silly seals that will clap anything wearing a black and white top? sounds like it. I pay good money to watch NUFC play football, I buy the tops and try and support them as much as I can. This tool is not worthy of that shirt and I for one am sick of watching him amble around whilst I help pay his wages!
7 DC Magpie // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:02
no question about it…taxi bus for Smith and Strolla!
I am much more intrigued by this news:
Sources close to Rosenberg suggest that Newcastle have the player (Skjelbred ) on their shortlist but are waiting to see how other potential deals pan out.
A source from the Norwegian club told the Chronicle: “What is interesting is that Newcastle are still following Skjelbred and are preparing to lodge a £4.5m bid for him if their bigger transfer targets slip out of their hands.
“Which is also why Skjelbred is putting off signing a new deal with Rosenborg. He does not want to make things messy if Newcastle or another club he might find interesting comes in for him before the end of the transfer window.â€
Seems Skjelbred is happy to be our back-up plan assuming we don’t land a better player first, Diego possibly? That works for me although the thought of not getting either makes me really uneasy!
8 sean667 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:02
Man i do like smith but im beginning to think you might be right ed, he was woefull last night as was shola
9 elliston // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:03
i AGREE but i do like alan smith. I am constantly worried about our club at the moment we need 11 players to cover our first eleven and then next year the next loada players have got to be even better than them. I as a newcastle fan are started to give up on the game because our team is getting seriously boring. Im sorry but how many youngsters get that much better. Buy good youngsters young!!! Anderson nani cristiano. Players do not improve so talk about young ones in my opinion is rubbish the age for good
players is 18. Our new players are not even that good but collicini is awesome. Another john terry… Be excited by that
10 I hate Spuds! // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:03
I would rather keep Ameobi who actually cares about the club than Smiff who is an absolute disgrace. We’ll be relegated if we have these 2 lethargic lumps up front. The excuse that Smiff gives 100% every game is tosh! I’d give 100% and more if I had the chance to play for this great club!
11 Ross G // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:04
They both need to go, and I think Ameobi still might late on. I must say though I prefer Ameobi to Smith, at least he knos how to score ad can keep the ball. I watched the Berlin game and Smith was static, didnt contribute, and when he got the ball he lost it, the guy is trash I would offer him to Sunderland as Keano loves him. Get around £6m for both of them we can bring in Derdiyok.
12 dougnufc // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:05
Steve “Batman” Harper
http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1357094,00.html
13 bennufc // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:06
the pair of them ruind a decent trip 2 doncaster with some abysmal finishing especially ameobi he missed 3 good opertunaties
14 Ciaran // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:08
I’ve said before, Ameobi needs to realise he is a Championship player. He seems to think a move to Norwich is beneath him, tha’s whats infuriating about the whole mess. He sits around waiting for a Premier League offer that never comes, so he sticks around wasting space on the squad. Completely agree with you Ed, where’s the harm in seeing what we have in Zamblera instead of watching that lumbering fool mince around until he picks up another injury?
15 Mad_Magpie // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:10
Ameobi always looked half-decent alongside Shearer, but playing alongside someone like Smith makes for a comical showing. They shouldn’t get any near our squad, let alone our first-team. Shola has always thought he is better than he actually is and it’s time for him to move down into the Football League to his standard of play. He’s a local lad so it is understandable how much he wants to prove himself, but he needs to face reality.
It will be a sad day for NUFC if those two play together upfront in a competitive game.
16 Jeff // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:10
it can’t be better if Smith get offloaded …but is there any club potentially interested in him?
any club will pay us 3-4M and pay Smith 60K per week?
definitely, he has his price with no market…
17 51times // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:12
Haha, Dondatta, you can’t afford to watch Newcastle at SJP, be honest.
And even if you could, you’d be the type to boo at half time. If you don’t like the way the team plays, just don’t clap them off. Those types sicken me by claiming to support this club.
18 SINGAPORE // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:12
FINALLY!
ALL newcastle fans have been waiting for this article for ages!
Sell SMITH n AMOEBI@@!!
KK, read this!!!!!!!!!
19 Norway Toon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:15
First of all. Sell Ameobi and Smith. Huge paycheck, and the play like crap.
Second: Skjelbred is one of the biggest talents in norway. A fantastic player. But 4.5 millions sounds a lot!
1.5 - 2 million should be enough for Rosenborg to sell him. After all, he wont sign a new deal.
And the best part is that Skjelbred is a huge Newcastle fan.
I would bet all my money that he will score more goals alone, than Smith/Ameobi combined.
I have said it before, his a mix of Batty and Lee and would adapt pretty soon to PL..
A suberb signing if we can get him.
20 Michael // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:15
As much as I dont think Sholas good enough for Newcastle a few people on here need to wise up when it comes to questioning his commitment to Newcastle. He delayed hip surgery to play for us for a long time and despite his ‘lazy’ looking style that doesnt mean hes actually being lazy. Im not defending him in terms of quality because I agree we need better, but in terms of commitment I dont think he should be questioned at all.
21 GraemeR // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:16
KK needs to get these two wasters into the office and ask them if they are actually pleased with their own performances or even effort. I cant imagine either of them having the balls to say that they have been trying.
22 Tom Thumb // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:16
Sell em both for whatever you can get. This preseason was the perfect chance for both of them to shine (like Darren Bent at Spurs).
Hull sounds like a great place for Smith, and Norwich for Ameobi. If we can net $5m for the two you have to take it, given the high wages they are both pulling in.
23 Clarke_19_rangers // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:17
Dc magpie : R U MAD???????? WHAT HAVE U BEEN SMOKIN??????
DIEGO??? i would be surprised if he signed for man-u never mind us! werder would never let him go!
get Smith and Amadonkey out NOW “KING” KEV! What a waste of our money
24 Bmore // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:18
They were bloodty awful!!
Our midfield looked clue less because these 2 nupties never ran beyond the defence, never tried to stretch them or move to create space for someone else.
Unless we get forwards in the team who are willing to work hard - then no matter which creative CM we have - they will be ineffective.
Must admit - I think Guthrie looked a good tidy player - seems a bargin. The spider shows promise too!
25 GraemeR // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:19
OK after Colloconi we need Derdiyok (for Smith and Ameobi), Moutinho (for Emre), Larrson (for Emre), Inler (for Butt) and Burdisso (for Rozenhal and Ramage)
26 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:19
IS HE ON HIS WAY HERE?
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier League/Newcastle United
27 harrier // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:19
DC Magpie - I got excited by the same thing! Great minds I guess…
28 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:21
51 Times, Im not going to drag this blog down with personal insults. You go ahead and love Shola Bambi-obi son. I will continue to watch and follow football without my B&W tinted glasses on!
29 dick // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:22
i think where stuck with them what other club is going to pay the wages that there on, they will just sit back and run down their contract
30 sirjasontoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:23
Steve Coppell reckons Shorey is leaving anyone think he is coming to us?
Hope so decent player.
Shola would struggle in the fizzy pop lge.
31 sean667 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:23
still at least spiderman and guthrie looked promasing in a fairly poor performance.
32 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:24
I feel a little sorry for Ameobi however he has been given many chances and blown them. I think its about time he moved on along with Smith.
33 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:26
they are the 2 worst players you could have upfront together they wouldnt even score if it was a 3 day match
34 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:31
It’s so simple, he’s just plain old….
Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy Greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy greedy
Please, just go…don’t turn around now, you’re not needed anymore…bla bla bla..
35 nightfall // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:32
i’d “sell” them both for free…they’re useless and they cost our club way too much…
36 hgjfkd // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:32
the day we get rid ov these two is the day you will see newcastle united improve
personly im better then shola
what was the point in playing them /how my shots did we have? we neva even looked like scoreing
why not play kasenga lua up front /i went to school with him an played up front with him for benfield and hes a very good player
also i was impresed with jonas looks quick
WE HAVE GOT THE SMALLEST TEAM IN THE LEAUGE AND WE NEED A LOT OF SINGNINGS
ATT CARDAZO OR SOMEONE ELSE GOOD IN AIR
MID TURAN OR INLA
LB BUDDISO
37 pontus // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:33
Ameobi sure get rid of him but smith needs to stay!! Give him a break he will do better trust me. you just need patience, wich is something we newcastle fans dont look to have very much of. besides he wasent worse then any one else last season. taylor, butt, geremi, milner, cascapa etc did you think these players were superstars last season and are good enough for the squad?
dont axe him just because he is a smudge:)
38 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:34
Toon1978, I wouldnt feel too sorry for Shola. He’s lived the dream mate. How many people do you know who would kill to play in that team? He even played with Shearer, how many people will be able to say that!
He’s lived the dream, got payed well but it obviously isnt working out, time for him to jog on (pun intended)
39 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:36
even i am better than shola ameobi and im a goalkeeper, i probably have a better touch and a better finish than him, im probably better all around than him
40 sirjasontoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:36
I agree get him and smith off the wage bill and get some hungry strikers in that can score.
41 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:37
What times kick off tomorrow..?
Keegan said he’ll not be playing Spiderman for obvious reasons….Oh, man…our squad is visibly short of numbers.
After yesterdays game, I would be happy if we signed the SJP ball boys, anything to bluster the squad…God, if things stay the same, we might have to play them!
42 hgjfkd // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:37
TO PLAY FOR NEWCASTLE I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT ARM
43 Matt // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:38
There was an interview with Roeder on Sky this morning saying how high he rates Shola but Norwich can’t afford the fee we’re asking.
Shame that both don’t go as it would free up a space for a new striker and keep our wage budget in check.
44 hgjfkd // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:39
VELOSO
45 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:41
Big Ricks Black Nd White Army - I wouldn’t doubt for one minute that you were - Be honest, you wouldn’t have to be all that good really to be an improve on him…!
46 hgjfkd // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:41
BY THE WAY DID HUGO VIANA HAVE A RELESE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT BECAUSE HE WAS A DECENT PLAYER AND MOVED ON FOR NOTHING HE WAS GIVING NO TIME TO SETTLE
AT LEST HE SCORD A FEW GOALS ANY WAYS AND HAD A GOOD FREE KICK
47 Tom // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:44
Hugo was on loan at various clubs for a couple of seasons, Valencia and Sporting I believe, before leaving for approximately 1.5 million. I agree though, I never thought he was given enough of a chance, unfortunately!
48 shearer4pm // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:44
Big Ricks Black Nd White Army - even though this is prob true its a lil disrespectful lol
IVE GOT THE SOLUTION
i think loan smith and ameobi to norwich, let them do well in the championship like chopra did, then sell em to the mackems for 5m a peice badda bing badda boom
norich can spend the would be transfer fees that they cant afford to pay on the wages, they increase the value of our players and sunderland get two crappy players
49 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:44
ameobi is a lump of lard, when was the last time he scored for newcastle i cant even remeber, and smiths only goal was in a frendly against sampdoria
50 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:44
Why would Roeder, or anyone wish to sign him….My 4yr daughter got more talent in her little toe..!
Who actually give him a contract at the Toon..?
51 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:46
haha u 4year old prop does hav more talent lol
52 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:49
steve coppell has anounced that nicky shorey will be leaving reading to an un named prem club could this be us, would we want him?
53 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:50
I think the number of members say it all……
http://www.talk-sports.net/pl/fan.club.aspx/Shola_Ameobi
54 sirjasontoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:51
The send them to norwich idea is a good one..they might find there feet there and wake them up a bit.
Don’t think roeder could match the wages think smith is on a massive wedge..whats he on around 60k a week?
55 lezb // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:52
I watched the game on a feed without commentary and just watching the game I thought Smuge was playing in a deep mid field role ,never once did he create space or attempt to get into a scoring position,as for Stroller Ambleoso words fail me .Neither player must have a shred of shame to turn in that type of performance.Time to take a long hard look at them selves.
56 keltik // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:52
Reading boss Steve Coppell is resigned to losing England full-back Nicky Shorey, with an unnamed Premier League club set to return with an improved bid in the next few days. (Press Association, 1850 BST)
Do you think that could be NUFC? think they might want to make a double signing over this weekend, that would be amazing. I think if all this collocini talk is true someone like Shorey will add a bit more Prem experience to our defence.
please please please pelase let it all be true!
57 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:53
does any 1 know what it means when you need 25 loyolty points 4 man u game?
58 sirjasontoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:53
Big Rick I already mentioned Shorey in post 25,
c’mon mate keep up : )
59 normski1930z // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:54
thing is glenn roeder gave a interview on sky today and sed the price for ameobi was way to high, fair enough i would like to move him on but not for nothing, he has transfer value of maybe 1.5mill… and i for one would take it.
60 sirjasontoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:55
We could give away Shola in a Tombola.
61 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:56
shola wouldnt even be good in championship, he was crap when he was on loan to stoke i think he scored only 1 goal
62 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:57
Sirjasontoon – Yeah, I’d possibly go along with putting Smith out on loan, but Ameobi, who would really have him, one day spent training and they would realise what a monumental cock-up they’d made and send him straight back address to sender….
63 domtoon // Aug 2, 2008 at 19:58
Is this skjelbred actually any good? According to wiki, he’s only scored 3 goals in 35 games. Not exactly blowing my skirt up. I know he’s young, but I’ve never seen him play - comments??
64 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:00
iv heard skjbred is a one for the future but we need some one now, we need an attacking mid fielder to assist owen and martins and i think baptista will be great for that
65 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:02
domtoon - Come on old boy, you know better then to rely on the ever reliable source of knowledge, known as; Wikapedia!!!!
Signing NS would be good, but I would rather see a ACM here as a priority!!!
66 chuck // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:03
Hey , Hey, enough allready with the Ameobi insults.
Okay, you dont think he`s good enough, leave it at that,
There`s no need to insult the man, look at yourselves, pack mentality each barking louder than the other, have you no shame ?
Mean to tell me none of you ever cheered the guy at some time.
Like Donnata13 mentioned he has achieved more than any of you can dream of.
So just let it alone, eh !
67 Lacedaemonian // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:03
1.5 mil does not sound like too much to ask for him. Maybe 3 mil for the pair of them. Who sanctioned their wages? Crazy - they earn 90k a week between them.
68 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:05
but chuck, he is getting paid a canny bit 4 being a shit player and im sure most people on here wouldnt play for nothing
69 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:06
sorry i ment play for nothing
70 Ally // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:09
chuck he deserves the insults the club have made him a millionaire after years and years of mediocre performance it is about time he P*****d off
71 normski1930z // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:10
you know what it is lads IF we had unlimited funds the player i would go after is micheal essien for midfield but that aint gonna happen but we have to look for the closest thing which i think is veloso but could we attract(doubtful) would we pay him 80 grand a week (no chance) so where do we go from here?? any ideas?
72 leeg123 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:13
wehey big rick wehey coloccin !!!!!!
73 GEORDIE L3G3ND // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:13
insult me if u want, but ameobi is better than all of u put together (sorry bout this), BUT he just needs a good strike partner and good crossers to help him out
74 Ally // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:13
What about the boy Moutinho from Lisbon normski1930z
75 DanToon // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:17
Lads would you be happy this this team to start against Man Poo in a couple of weeks?
……………………..Given
Baye. Taylor/Bassong. Coloccini. Warnock
………………………Faye
..Larsson………………………………..Gutirrez
……………………..Owen
………….Derdiyok…………Martins
I think this team is possible, comments welcome please!
76 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:18
If Shola left now, he might, just might save face and be given a luke warm reception should he be a guest of the club in years to come.
The problem is he has no intention of going. Thus the bad feelings towards him getting stronger and more intense.
The longer he stays the more he will be hated
77 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:19
helow lee son yes we are getting colochinni
78 robertsa // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:20
give Rangers, smith, ameobi, duff and 1 million for cuellar. Its been ages since we were linked with him.
79 buddy // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:21
forget about larsson please
lets be a little bit more ambitious
just out of interest, is warnock even any good?? have not seen enough of him
80 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:21
GEORDIE L3G3ND, Im a good fighter, I just need Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe with me to back me up ………
meh…
81 skin d // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:22
sick of hearing about that useless article shola,
the quicker he leaves the better.
understand we,ve got a small squad,and this will only happen if a good enough signing comes in this window.
i disagree with some comments on here about his commitment,his commitment is to his pay packet.
he had a good opportunity at stoke to show what he was made of,but he completely ballsed it up.why? because he,s been onto a good thing with the toon for years.his lifestyle is funded and he only has to turn up to training.
if shola had any ambition as a footballer he would have left for first team football by now.
he seems to have his speech rehearsed every year,must score more etc..etc..
shola amoebi in my opinion was never going to make it as a forward,i,ve always thought he would have made a good defensive midfielder in the patrick viera mould.
82 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:22
dondatta u r right the more he stays the more grieve we will give him, i think it was like 2 years or something since ameobi last scored wasnt it, and i think it was against wigan
83 Tommy K // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:22
I think your all a little critical of Shola, remember when he was playing with injections when we had no fit strikers. He has done a lot for this club. Yes we all know hes not good enough, but surely hes ok as a back-up striker with injury prone Viduka and Owen.
As for Smith he doesn’t even look like a footballer anymore, i dont think hes ever recovered since he badly broke his leg, i think hes worse than Gui’varch and Anderson atm lol.
84 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:22
Robertsa i dont think we have enough players in the squad to do something like that. I’m not keen on Cuellar anyway after the Boumsong saga. Its was enough to put me off for life.
85 robertsa // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:24
my team wud be
given
beye collocini faye burdisso
gutierez guthrie milner
martins owen derdiyok
I reckon its probly second to ur team dantoon but it is more likely
probs right Toon1978 but id like to see cuellar and collocini in the defence
86 GEORDIE L3G3ND // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:26
dondatta, wht did u mean ?
87 Mal // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:27
Ameobi will go to norwich for about £1 million - that’s more than he’s worth. Everyone agrees smith is useless but we’ve actually no chance of unloading him - thanks to the megabucks freddie agreed to pay him.
I agree that there’s absolutely no point in playing shola in these friendlies. He doesn’t want to be here so keep him fit and get rid.
88 obamagic // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:29
get rid of both of them and bring in Oscar Cardozo from Benfica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cardozo!!!!!!!!!
89 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:29
the more them two stay upfront, the least interested teams want them
90 robertsa // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:30
how has smith got so bad he was mint for leeds decent for man u. I reckon if we cant get rid of him do what sir alex did. play him in centre midfield. He wud probs still be there for man u if he didnt break his leg.
91 Graeme // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:33
I can’t understand why Newcastle is asking something like 2-3 millions for Shameobi. That’s an awful lot of money for an awful player.
92 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:34
I think the potential signing of Colocinni have everyone including myself expecting top drawer signing again ie Moutinho, Veloso. These guys are a litle out of reach until we can get into Europe. I do however think Dirdyok would be a likely signing.
93 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:34
So Shola played with injections, Big deal man. Anybody on this blog would have done the same (IMO). I know I would have.
Tommy K, im not having a go here but have you been watching him play? I dont get it? I honestly hand on heart dont see how anyone can seriously say “we all know hes not good enough, but surely hes ok as a back-up striker ” Most of us dont think he’s good enough as back up striker.
Gui’varch is a 1998 world cup winner lol (yes, he actually has a world cup winners medal!?!) … how do these people get to where there going in life?
94 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:35
they would both be good signings for annan athletic does anyone agree? and im sure they will be too lol
95 the black magpie // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:35
dantoon
i like that team, i would not mind Duff or NZogs on the wing-(dont think larsson will come tho)
Yes i whole heartldly agree with issue of Smith and Shola- watch them hurts- as it did yesterday=
but i also think we should have a real discussion about Milner- i think we should sell him- the boy is very poor as a talent- he has a great shot on him- but nothing else really his crossing yesterday was crap- he cant beat a man- and he is not really intelligent with the ball either-
he shouldnt be ahead of Duff or Nzogs- in his current form- and i dont think zogs should play left back anymore- i hate it when he plays there- (fcuking fat sam)
96 normski1930z // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:36
cordoso to me sometimes looks like mustard then other times he looks like he doesnt want to know( abit like berbatov) …. just not sure what to think…
97 Punk Skunk // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:37
Toon1978,
i think ya’ right man, what d’y'think about Derdiyok?..I like the look of him & he’s still a bairn…But defo has a football brain, if y’know warra mean?..
98 Irish John // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:39
@ the black magpie ..Could’nt agree with you more about Milner…So over rated..When i heard Villa and Liverpool were sniffing round i was loving it….If we got an offer off 6-7 mill we should bite there hands off..
If you compare Guthrie and Milner I would say Guthrie has way more potential than him…
99 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:44
Punk Skunk he would be a quality signing IF NUFC give him the right guidance. If they can do that i believe he could be a top drawer player who would end up a regular in the first 11. He would be more a signing for the future and getting a few games with Owen would be perfect for him.
100 Bill F SPLASH THE CASH ASH // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:45
Blimey Ed 92+ posts already for this thread, love or hate the Albatross and the Invisible man, they certainly generate a lot of comment.
101 iain // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:45
thanks ed its only taken you how long to get this article up ??? its not like we havnt all been saying this for ages is it…
if shola and smith leave it wont be hard to find a player better than those two combined.
got to be a target man imo, derdiyok is perfect as he fits all the criteria for our transfer policy.
after those two jokes have been shipped out im praying geremi is next, hes not a liability as such but hes not worth his wages the amount of set pieces he wastes.
still think the sqaud needs a lot of work…
102 Geordie Nick // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:46
some of you lot really need to grow up lyk.
‘im better than shola’- yeah course you are, thats why your a professional footballer, oh wait, NO UR NOT. he might not be premiership class but hes better than any f*ker tht comes on here obviously
103 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:47
GEORDIE L3G3ND, my point is :-
Shola, at times has had the same supply line as Shearer….
He has had the same supply line as Owen…
He has had the same supply line as Martins …
The players mentioned seemed to do ok, no?
104 toonfanjonny // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:48
ameobi looks like a deer trying to walk for the first time when he plays and smith- a stirker who can’t score-good combination
105 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:49
here lets get geordie nick signed up 4 the toon
106 Toon1978 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:49
Irish John you have a short memory mate he had a bad season so did most at NUFC but if you cast your mind back to the season before he was quality. He is still only 22 still a young player and has the potential make the right wing his own. Yes he had a bad game yesterday but its still only pre season. Milner is a good grafter with a hint of flair, did you not see him skin that kid yesterday in the box.
107 Punk Skunk // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:50
Couldn’t agree more Toon1978,
i think he can take Viduka’s job when he’s done!..
…& in time, be better, ‘cos he has pace & youth on his side!..He’s got skills!..
108 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:51
OMG the Goldfish is on a question of sport as the “guess the star” lol
109 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:51
i think milner is one of our better players and i wouldnt sell jim because he can play on the left and right and has great potential
110 AdamToonFan // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:53
@ Geordie Nick
Well i’m a YTS at Nott’m Forest and i think he’s very poor!
111 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 20:56
Sitting here fed up, with the way things are looking at the Toon - Reminiscing, how things used to be when I was a young lad – Do any of you late 20 early 30 year olds remember any of these!!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKDs6HE7SU&feature=related
I remember being at school and finding out Arthur Cox had signed Keegan
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6IqznlB1GhI&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pieK7b4KLL4&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I1jywlZG74o&feature=related
Quality classics..!
112 Nick Dryden // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:03
Dan toon that team sounds pretty good to me
113 GEORDIE L3G3ND // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:05
i see ur point dondatta, but i do lyk ameobi as a person, but not a footballer, but just cut him sum slack, hes obviously a good footballer, but not good enuff 4 newcastle, thts all im really sayin, just stop insultin him
114 Shearer#1 // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:06
Personally I think Milner will never be quite top class, hasn’t got the pace or end product. I’d sell him if we got a bid of £7m or more & sign someone like Arda, Aaron lennon or SWP. I think the Mackems might take Alan Smith, Roy Keane likes him. Hugo Viana is joining Sporting, I think we could def sign Moutinho if we offer big money.
115 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:08
i would happy to take aaron lennon he was pace and we need some more people with pace
116 GEORDIE L3G3ND // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:08
milner has actually got great potenitial and hes a good player alredy, but yesterday he didnt quite hav a good game
117 Bill F SPLASH THE CASH ASH // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:08
Apparently Steve Harper “saved” the day after several members of the team were attacked by a vampire bat, it was last seen flying erratically away after biting Terry Mac. The bat has since checked into the bat rehab centre and is recovering.
118 Toon Andy // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:09
Ameobi has been a decent player for us. Nothing more than decent, but he’s done enough to justify applause. He had a fantastic goalscoring rate under Roeder, when we were really short of strikers for long periods of time, and he had lots of potential before that. If he hadn’t had this recurring hip problem, perhaps he’d have gone on to be a big hit and regularly show what he did against Barcelona in the Champions League.
As it is, I agree that Ameobi needs to move on. As has been mentioned, I love his strong feelings for the club and think he was good for us in the past, but nowadays he’s a Championship player and the priceless ~2 years he’s lost through injury (and the yard of pace) won’t be replaced - time to move on, a Championship club paying £2m would be welcomed (Ipswich seem flush suddenly and were linked before - any chance there?)
Having said that, I wouldn’t want to lose Shola and Smith, as it would leave us desperately short. This is why, as the article rightly highlights, it would be good to have seen how ready Zamblera is.
With the time left in the window, do we have the chance to sell Shola and Smith AND buy replacements along with the other players we need? I don’t think so, so maybe it’s best to concentrate on the attacking midfielder and left-sided centre back we need in order to make sure we have a good squad. Then, if Martins, Owen and Viduka can get ready for the new campaign then at least we are in good shape.
Given/Harper/Krul; Enrique/Bassong, Coloccini/Cacapa, Faye/Taylor, Beye/Geremi; N’Zogbia/Duff, Butt, NEW AM/Guthrie, Gutierrez/Milner; Owen/Martins, Viduka/Carroll/Ameobi
Doesn’t look so bad…
119 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:10
we have spiderman and batman now man, wouldnt mind that at all if they perform
120 hanzowen // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:13
yeah i give a YES to this idea of “selling” these both men even if we need to pay some money for any clubs which ever want them. They’re simply not good enough for our club. At least Ameobi has committed himself to score goals in the past. KK can loan out Alan Smith to Hull City or else for him to find his goal instinct again.
121 GEORDIE L3G3ND // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:19
well sed hanzowen
122 ronaldeano // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:20
Smith is NOT good enough for Hull!
123 Shearer#1 // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:27
Reading are saying Nicky Shorey will be moving next week, hope we’re signing him. If Liverpool want Milner they can have him ……. as long as we get Xabi Alonso in return.
124 Black and White Blood // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:33
JM will not go to Liverpool, they will get Barry. Keegan said he believes JM role will be as a CM like Rob Lee…!
Oh….we really require a ACM!!
125 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:33
we will never get xabi alonso it will never happen
126 Steve // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:48
Don’t think we could sell Ameobi for 3mil i mean Stoke bought Kitson for 5mil but he actually scored a fair amount of goals in the2005-2006 season and a couple last season (wit Reading). Ameobi just can’t cut it and he was useless when he was loaned out to Stoke.
127 nufcrealist // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:54
why is shola getin so much stick ill hold my hands up he isnt good enough to play for the club but who here can say if they were given the chance they wouldnt take it and we arnt good enough either because as a local lad like shola i no i would although id do it for free never mind the money hes on but come gi ve the lad some credit he wants to play for the club he loves unlike some of the over payed waste of spaces on the injurie list that we do have and alan smith is another case we all no wes no striker and is he a midde fielder who really knows but the one thing you cant denie is that wen he puts on the shirt he gives 100% and with our squad been so small he must deserve a place on the bench
128 silverwear this year // Aug 2, 2008 at 21:59
alonso is going back to spain so we wont get him.
i personally think milner is worth keeping king kev can make him a class player.
does no one think that jimmy bullard may be a good signing he kept fulham in the prem last year and i read that he isnt signing a new contract.
i think him, burdisso, larsson, and maybe one more would give us a good enough squad to challenge for europe next year with some of the s**t teams up there.
also can anyone explain why spurs are making so many big signings, and we arent i realise fat mike is being a bit tight, but i refuse to believe that they are better than us
129 Clive // Aug 2, 2008 at 22:00
Both Smith (especially) and Ameobi are both a financial liability and a massive liability on the pitch.
Neither are within a bull’s roar of what we need and need to be replaced ASAP and culled and cut our losses.
I couldn’t give a rat’s posterial orrifice if they were given away as any replacement would give us more hope and get them off the wage bill.
As a born Geordie it is doing my head in big time!
It is getting just plain embarrassing and very very annoying!
130 JONNY // Aug 2, 2008 at 22:14
List of who Newcastle should sign
REALISTICALLY
CFIRSTLY REMOVESMITH AND LANKY BAMBY AS THERE A HEAP OF SHiTE
- Pavuluychenko
- Arshavin - tho probably wants champ lge footy
- arda- skillful turkish/ galatasary winger/AM excellent aswell as creative ? goals goals goals something that none of our midfeild have in them
- gokhan ilner/ double of GARRY BARRY -amazing football wise
- Zhirkow excellent left or right back - versatile attacking gr8 crosser wot more could you want.
- Or WARNOCK
- Get cacapa out hes only good when hes confident
Beye is gr8 player and faye is quite solid to
jose enrique is not ready yet but could be good in time.
131 JONNY // Aug 2, 2008 at 22:14
List of who Newcastle should sign
REALISTICALLY
- Pavuluychenko
- Arshavin - tho probably wants champ lge footy
- arda- skillful turkish/ galatasary winger/AM excellent aswell as creative ? goals goals goals something that none of our midfeild have in them
- gokhan ilner/ double of GARRY BARRY -amazing football wise
- Zhirkow excellent left or right back - versatile attacking gr8 crosser wot more could you want.
- Or WARNOCK
- Get cacapa out hes only good when hes confident
Beye is gr8 player and faye is quite solid to
jose enrique is not ready yet but could be good in time.
132 silverwear this year // Aug 2, 2008 at 22:43
johnny you say realistically but the players youve mentioned arent going to come to us in the state we are in. at most i can see us attracting arda OR inler and warnock - provided that mike forks out the cash.
arshavin would only come to us as a last resort his agent wrote us off straight away.. and i dont think he is worth the 25 million zenit are asking for him anyway.
i agree with who our looking at but i dont think we can attract them at the moment. i believe it may be a different matter if king kev were handling transfers instead of jimmy and the midget but sadly i cant see them happening with the state we are in
133 toonaldinho // Aug 2, 2008 at 22:56
Get rid of these two they’re rubbish save about 100k per week if they go… they’re like laurel & hardy or the chuckle brothers of football!!
134 Liam-NUFC // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:06
Thank god this was eventually brought up. Smith is just simply not good enough for us. Big Sam and KK have given him chance after chance and for a ‘prolific’ attack-minded player to not of scored a goal apart from a goal against Sampdoria in a pre-season friendly is a disgrace.
I’ve followed NUFC for many years and I am baffled to see Ameobi has not been sold by now. Fair enough he has scored some important goals here and there and I know he is our 2nd all-time leading goalscorer in Europe but I feel for a professional footballer, he is unable to run without the ball never mind with it. He stumbles over his own feet! I’ve read a few comments here and people are mentioning £3M for him but I think that eventually we will be that desperate to get rid of him we’ll send him out on loan again and have to wait another season to get rid of him. What I say is and in no way am I defending our former versions of Laurel & Hardy. Boumsong and Bramble but to be fair they had one terrible season and one by one they were out. Manager after manager have persistantly stuck by Ameobi and maybe it’s because we didn’t have the funds but we still play him even though he has been terrible for 2-3 seasons now. Another example would be Albert Luque. He was at Newcastle for what, a season or 2 and he was sold. I hope KK reads this because I speak for geordies worldwide when I say… Ameobi and Smith should never have the priviledge of wearing the black and white stripes of Newcastle United again.
135 matt11_25 // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:25
i think smith and ameobi might actually be allergic to footballs
136 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:36
Nufcrealist, there comes a point when a player starts becomming counter productive for the team. Shola Bambi-obi has long been at this junction im affraid.
He is NOT producing on the field, and he is hindering the progression of other young guns like Zamblera and Carroll.
If he really loves this club, he should walk …
137 Marty // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:41
off the point but GEORDIE LEGEND Milner didnt quite have a good game yesterday?????
MMMMMM that would be all of last season,sell him for the 7Mill we were offered as he just cannot cross a ball.
I would love it if he proved me wrong n started doing his job on the wing n thats sending in crosses to the strikers………………..enough said
138 Marty // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:42
TAXI for Shola n Smudge
139 Dondatta13 // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:44
lol @ matt11_25 its like they have the football form of dartitus!
140 Ausgeordie // Aug 2, 2008 at 23:53
The more first team football they get now the less they will get in the season. Smith is obviously being told he is only going to be used as a striker. That way He cant complain when we have a full midfield and no place for him. As a striker he can be dropped to make way for Owen, Martins and Dukes or Carroll so whilst he may be on the big bench he wont be coming on unless injury strikes…..Which is why we still need another striker Kev! Gudjohnnson!!!!!!
141 ca66st // Aug 3, 2008 at 0:26
Shola has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself as a Newcastle player and, apart from a brief spell under Roeder, he has failed to impress. I think the thing that frustrates many fans is that he seems to have had a number of opportunities this summer to leave (West Brom, Ipswich, Stoke) and he’s still here - that just angers fans that want to get rid of deadweight and get some players in who can add quality to the side.
As for Smith, he’s not a striker, he’s not a midfielder - i don’t even know how to describe him!! Anyone thinking he has something to offer and will come good - please watch a replay of the Toon v Chelsea game - first half we were decent, then Viduka goes off, Smith comes on the team loses all shape and Smith runs around like a headless chicken , gets in everyones way and contributes to the two goals! Seriously that game should be enough to convinve anyone that Smith is utterly useless!!
I have a feeling niether will leave and that just annoys me, i really don’t want to sit at SJP next year and have the dread that Smith is going to be one of the options to come on from the bench - the guy is terrible .
Rant over, don’t normally comment but these two get me that worked up i couldn’t help myself!!
142 tim krul // Aug 3, 2008 at 0:29
we need to get rid og both of them… pronto. we should be able to raise 5-7 mil from both of them which can go towards paying for 1 decent replacement. doesn’t even need to be that good, just back up for owen/oba/viduka. i reckon kevin doyle would be a good option. we could get him for 5 mil and he’d probably be happy to wait for his chance, knowing that he’ll probbly play every other game due to vidukas poor fitness record. his wages would easily be covered by smith and sholas. who knows, maybe we could even swap shola plus cash for him. we just need somone who has a bit of movement (steven hawking has better movement than shola) who can also score goals. aside from that, we desperately need a creative midfielder and although perhaps unrealistic, we should push the boat out for arshavin. way overpriced but potentially the difference between breaking into the top 4/6 and finishing in the bottom half again. he IS that influential. Guthrie looks good, butt too similar to wor nicky… perhaps his long term replacement. another left back is also needed, shorey or warnock perhaps. in my opinion, a creative midfileder has to be our top priority though
143 TooooooN // Aug 3, 2008 at 0:38
I havent watch our pre-season but when i read the highlights - i never get thru alan smith nor ameobi involvement in the games simple because they are not good enough.
Ameobi- we gave him LOTS of chances to a championship player. cut his wages and let him play for us not because of the money.
Alan Smith-definitely one of the worst striker we had. never score. last he score was pre-season last year! never a good midfielder, can’t even find a room to shoot and always a waste on our starting eleven because he doesn’t involve much. i remember last season we start winning under keegan when we start dropping Alan Smith! i rather we play 5 in midfield than playing alan smith on the team.
144 roy morten79(norway) // Aug 3, 2008 at 1:26
would loke to see some more english players coming in…
145 Legend #9 // Aug 3, 2008 at 1:47
Its simple
we need a creativity in midfield and a ” Hitman ” striker ..
we lost many great players to other teams , right now Manuel Fernandas is not wanted at Valencia , Enler would be great also and maybe a right midfielder but please not Pennant
as for a striker Diego Milito is avaliable for 14M a natural goalscorer and can provide something different than Owen and Martins ..
Smith cant give somethinb more than a squad play with high wage , and shola complete waste of time !!
146 Fandi // Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07
SeLL:
1) Ameobi
2) Smith
3) Cacapa
4) Duff
147 xfer // Aug 3, 2008 at 4:12
“This is the fittest I’ve been in a few years, and hopefully, that can translate into playing more games. I need to improve my form.â€
If he is at his fittest, then he needs to leave now, obviously a league one player.
148 Malaysian Toon // Aug 3, 2008 at 4:55
Shola and Smithy both need to go imo. At the same time have a bit of respect for Shola. Yes he isn’t good enough and yes he never fulfilled his potential. But when we needed him he was there playing to the best that HE could. He never complained, sulked or bitched about anything to the press or anyone else. That’s more than you can say for a lot of players. And as for all of you who claim to be a better player than him get real. You’re all shite players. That’s why you have time for writting stuff in blogs and not out there playing for a respectable team.
And for those of you who claim you’d play for free ….. that’s just what u say now when u know you’ll never play for the toon. If u were actually in that position I’m 100% sure you’d like a bit of dosh.
The crap players we have are not half as irritating as you know it all, i’m a better player than so n so, rude wankers.
149 Nicholas Ee // Aug 3, 2008 at 5:21
To be honest I think Shola has been plague by injuries. Remember the season when Shearer retired? When Glenn Roeder was in charge? Shola was fantastic. We were unbeaten in our final 9 games that season
150 Anthony // Aug 3, 2008 at 6:10
Ed: what is the point of writing this article?…
so you think people (including you) didnt already criticise them enough in here, so you want to invite more?
every Toon fans know how good they are and criticise them every day in here, what is the point of writing more articles to criticise them more?…
and by the way, the club is going to sell Ameobi and consistently link with strikers…so there is a chance that if we sign the new striker, he could be Smith’s replacement
at the end of the day, Shola is a Geordie…Smith is still with us and both of them are willing to give their all in our shirt, shouldnt we give them a bit of support (even tho we know how good they are) rather than writing more articles to invite criticism every day
151 clinta // Aug 3, 2008 at 13:52
In my opinion smith going nowhere for the same reason that we’ve struggled to sell on ameobi, and who know’s the way it going we might be stick with shola for another season.
have been saying for a while there’s no way smith will be moved on, no one from the clubs even mention him have they and with his wage demands and us probably wanting that over priced fee for him back, not a chance. would like to hear your opinions on this chance to ed?
not just other peoples.
152 darren grech MALTA // Aug 3, 2008 at 15:16
shall we make an offer to REQUELME ?
if we signs coluccini than we can use him and gutierrez as a help to persuade REQUELME come to the toon.
at the age of 30 REQUELME can sign a 3 year contract and can still be a hit in england and europe
153 blarghus // Aug 3, 2008 at 16:39
ameobi has become a bramble up front, lets hope he bags one tonight and impresses some of the poor schmos that are apparently interested.. we REALLY need to offload shola!
Anthony: at the end of the day, shola still sucks and all of smiths hard work and energy on the pitch isnt enough
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