Danny Guthrie has been talking to the Sunday Sun quite a bit and he talks today about his former club Liverpool, and how much he loves working with Kevin Keegan, at Newcastle.
Danny Guthrie - Keegan is brilliant to work with
Guthrie insists the Newcastle United football club bears comparison with the very biggest:
“I was at Liverpool for seven or eight years — I grew up there — so to leave for anywhere else is a big change.”
“But I can see very big similarities between here (Newcastle) and there.”
“You can judge the size of a football club by its fans, and the attitude of the city and the people here to football is so similar to Liverpool.”
“This is a football city. It’s the main topic of conversation — everyone has an opinion on it.”
“But the thing here is that everyone is obsessed with just one club, rather than two like in Liverpool or Manchester.”
“That, the way the ground sits looking down on the town, the amount of people walking around in black and white shirts . . . everything about it is big.â€
Some would say that football isn’t the main topic of conversation in the city - it’s the only topic of conversation in Newcastle - apart from the beer, of course.
And Guthrie seems to have formed a tremendous working relationship with his manager Kevin Keegan, and he has great respect for the former Liverpool and England legend.
Guthrie believes Newcastle now have a manager capable of matching the very best, as he continued:
“Kevin Keegan is just brilliant to work with. As soon as I met him, we got on.”
“Even in training, he is so positive that players just spark off him. It’s a pleasure to come in every day.”
“I just can’t wait to be in the dressing room before the manager gives his team talk and I walk out at a full St James’ Park.â€
Danny was finally asked if he had any regrets that he finally had to leave Liverpool:
“I always hoped it would happen for me there, even as recently as a few months ago, having done well at Bolton.”
“But they (Liverpool) have got a lot of players in central areas and the gaffer wanted to strengthen again this summer.”
“As I say, it still needed a good offer for me to want to leave.”
We’ll have to see how Danny does this season, as it will not be easy for him, but if he follows the guidance and advice of Kevin Keegan, he cannot go far wrong.
Comments welcome.
185 responses so far ↓
1 JJ // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:02
Many comments about this lad said, “Im so underwhlemed”.
I was very excited about this and I still am because he could prove to be a bargain.
2 Tom4Nufc // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:07
Cannot fault his attitude, commitment and so far his class… He is a GEM.
3 Marty // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:09
Get the season under way already,can`t wait to see how we get on,lots of enthusiasm now though after some positive displays
4 the black magpie // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:12
i must say i have been impressed with this lad, he talks some sense and appears to have candor- he was up for a fight for a Liverpool place- rafa made the decision
attributes- he is clean and tidy with the ball doesnt lose the ball cheaply- and he was consist in this even when he faded from the pre season games that i saw
oh yeh and he can cross his free kick for DUFFS HEADER was straight into the danger area
and he scored as well- Gerrard -esqu in our ranks i dont know- im a fully blooded toon, but Steven Gerrard has been my fav player ever since he broke out (he shuld be England cptn) he has a long way to go because he will have to show consistency and that is the only valid test
if he can get us 8 or more goals then i think we are onto a winner
5 Nenad // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:12
It’s important that he keeps his feet on the ground in order to progress as a footballer. Therefore, I hope he isn’t reading your blog, Ed
Just in case he does: Give your all every time, Danny lad, and you’ll always have home in Newcastle. Good luck!
6 Big Ricks Black Nd White Army // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:13
absoultly brilliant player so far
7 Nick K // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:17
The club may have bought the next “Gerrad” =)
8 Ericles // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:22
This lad was able to tick all of Ashley’s boxes by the sound of it. The sort of player to stay for years and help win the trophies. As long as he takes it all in his stride we have a gem.
9 Nobby's Dad // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:30
Strange how after yesterday’s game and the imminent signing of Coliccini those who seem hell bent on posting negative comments have disappeared. Where are HPS / SJtoon and all those who knock everything about the club? Truth be told they want Ashley to fail IMO just so they can say ‘we told you so’.
To the rest - Keep the faith!!
10 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:31
i said that too Nobby, the majority are feeling a lot more positive now and it is a good thing, all it takes is a little communication eh.
11 keegan is king // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:37
the thing we need to do now is perform consistantly away, something we never seem to achieve.
12 Luke // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:42
“Give your all every time, Danny lad, and you’ll always have home in Newcastle. Good luck!”
Poor Smith. I think we all said the same when he signed last year.
The reason everyone is so positive is because we’re fickler than a bi-sexual in a bi-bar.
13 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:43
i have tried not to get down but sometimes you had to, now i just cant wait for the season to begin, cant wait to watch young danny.
can anyone please tell me where i can get some highlights of the psv game and valrncia
14 Luke // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:49
You might want to sign up to the official nufctv GG7. Not a bad little deal if you ask me, squire.
15 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:53
i have to wait for my new debit card to come through to do that mate, is there no other way of finding highlights.
16 Luke // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:58
Tell a lie; whoever edits the highlights for the site havn’t really got round to showing anything other than the goals, of which you can get links to on this site. News on the boy Spears? After Tell-Tales revelation on the mystery guest, I’m starting to think Colo, Spears and this Guinean lad are to be unveiled together.
17 sirjasontoon // Aug 10, 2008 at 21:59
Nobbys Dad If you care to look at the post regarding the match yesterday I sang the Toon’s praises so do your homework before taking a swipe you prick.
18 nufc09 // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:03
spear has already signed he was with the under 18’s in germany and scored.
19 sirjasontoon // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:04
NOBBYS DAD-http://nufcblog.com/2008/08/09/match-reports/ft-newcastle-2-valencia-1-magpies-brilliant/
Comment 63.
Shhhhhhhhh.
20 High Flyer // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:05
According to the Swiss Press, a fee for that swiss striker has been agreed.
21 Luke // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:06
How do you know this nufc09?
22 nufc09 // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:09
from the bebo link on the other the article, u can get onto spears mams bebo and she says he scored his first goal for the under 18’s.
high flyer any links? is that derdiyok?
23 the black magpie // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:16
do you have a link High Flier?
i think sometimes we all need to rant- some just go on a little more than others- one can always find a bone- but on the whole we wouldnt screw so much if we didnt care
with KK i have faith tho- regardless of the score next sunday we all know one thing we will attack
24 AndyNUFC // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:21
How d’you know High Flyer?
25 High Flyer // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:24
A mate of mine in Switzerland. You don’t have to believe me, I’m just passing on what I’ve heard.
26 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:24
young aarons mother isnt a bad looking lass
27 Colo's Curly Locks // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:28
Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:24
young aarons mother isnt a bad looking lass
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how do u know lyk? is she a propa milf? lol
28 Toon1978 // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:31
Is Derdyok on his way to the toon?
29 AndyNUFC // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:32
howay colo curlys locks, if young spear has bebo and whatnot, he might check on here, none of that here please!
And High Flyer, certainly hope it’s true. Could you say how in depth it is, as in, is it saying its a completely done deal?
30 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:33
she had is old but gold, not necessarily that old but is lovely like, always watched aaron everytime i went too watch my little brother in law, she is abit punky like but is lovely looking, big pair of mammarys lol
31 Colo's Curly Locks // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:37
andy
if his mother is indeed a milf…he will no doubt have heard it from his friends a great number of times. lol.
i know my mates with milfs get it ripped out of them.
whats his bebo? link?
32 Nicky's Butt // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:37
Its not Ismael Bangoura or Nile Ranger been comparin pics with the guy at the PSV game and its defo not them. Sos Spyro
33 Obafan // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:38
Toon1978 - let us hope so. Derdiyok would be ideal as a hard working striker who often gives assists to play next to Oba and owen.
Nobby’s Dad - I have to admit that I also posted more and more negative comments aboput Ashley. Now that he has given an interview I’m not worried anymore; he will do good with our beloved club. The thing that made me and others so angry was the fact that we seemed to miss every player and that the club was totally not communicating to its fans.
34 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:38
ey, whats this i hear about ashley getting half naked in shearers? this man just seems like any normal bloke, what a way to qnnounce the signing
35 Nicky's Butt // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:40
Its defo not Nile Ranger or Ismael Bangoura the guy at the PSV game and them 2 look nowt alike sos to give your hopes up Spyro.
36 Geordie SPIDERMAN18 (GG7) // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:41
yeh tahts a point does he have facebook or bebo?
37 Nobby's Dad // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:46
sirjasontoon…..you fickle idiot. Ever since I can remember your posts have been negative about Ashley, the new players and the scouting staff. One game and you’ve changed your opinion completely. Changing your mind like that….you sure you’re not a tart??
38 Tom4Nufc // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:47
I think Mike is a public figure or something on Facebook, i looked him up before lol!
39 Nobby's Dad // Aug 10, 2008 at 22:52
Obafan….what has he actually said that he hasn’t said before. Could you not see that the club was making progres?? Signing young lads and getting rid of Baba / Carr etc. Surely all good things.
We seemed to miss every player??Like who? It’s only not getting Modric that has disappointed me.
40 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:02
MA is class, a few weeks ago i decided to support him rather than question his intentions after every little story that came out from the press, i feel i made the right choice but i suppose time will tell
41 Tom_Toon // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:05
I was just over the fence towards Ashley the whole time simply because of the foundations he put in place and still am, however i feel much more optimisitc since watching Gutierrez v PSV
42 Scotty 1986 // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:07
Why is everone down beat We have cleared 90% of the dead wood out of our club ( carr , Baba , Rozenhal , dyer , bernard , bowyer ) now we only have ameobi left and maybe smith, but we have replaced them with good quality youth.
Mix the youth with the wise heads of Butt , Given , Geremi & Owen and we might be a little shocked this year maybe top eight is a realistic goal.
43 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:07
do you mean ‘on the fence’ TT?
44 ksmit // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:11
Let’s keep it civil lads… don’t want to go back to that dark day of no comments again…
45 Ross // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:11
tom toon-did you see him last night? the lad doesnt stop running, and he’s so strong with the ball, good first touch, good passer, i was sitting there saying to my dad
“we’ve done it, we’ve found someone with a bit of flair, alot could rest on this lads shoulders next season” lol.
46 Tom_Toon // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:12
Not i mean just over, like i said.
I wasn’t so over that i thought he was God or he was the best thing that has happened to us but i wasn’t so against him that i wanted him to sell up. Slightly closer to te god side than sitting on the fence.
47 Tom_Toon // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:13
Ye Ross but i thought he was better vs PSV to be honest, still top yesterday though, love it how he tries to run through players when he takes them on, not around them. Very powerful runner, fun to watch.
48 AndyNUFC // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:19
The reason why we love Gutierrez is because he does the one thing thing we never had for any games last season. He has the confidence to just run at people directly, take them on, and you know he’ll have a quality final ball as well.
49 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:23
and he does it well too Andy
50 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:25
anyone seen this on Nile Ranger? lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile_Ranger
51 Alex // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:30
i cant wait for the season to kickoff all Kevs signings look good . With Guthrie , Spiderman , Milner & Barton i think our midfield will create & score a load of goals . Owen & Oba are going to go goal crazy on the passes of guthrie and crossing of Spidey . Lets get the season started
52 AndyNUFC // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:32
Have to say like i’m not too stoked on this Nile Ranger kid, would have loved it to have been Gomis or Bangoura.
53 Leeg123 // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:36
well that pic of the black kid at st james looks nowt like that nile ranger at all and how cud he have been mistaken for gomis looks shit all like him.
54 Ross // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:36
T_T and andynufc-totally agree. he doesnt shy away or try and go round players, if theres a group, he’ll run right at them, he’s strong and skillfull enough to go through them,and if not, he wins the foul. he’ll play the ball, keep running, and look for it back. he works so hard by the looks of things, i was thoroughly impressed.
55 Toontoonblackandwhite // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:44
my aussie friend Scott chipperfield fc basle mid has said the durdyok has said his goodbuys and said he will sign for newcastle on tuesday.
56 Spyro // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:45
can we stop calling him “the black kid” please, its disrespectful and unnecessary.
57 furrygiblets // Aug 10, 2008 at 23:58
what if he was a white kid Spyro. No offense but thats the best way to describe him as no one knows who he is.
God i hate this PC bollocks
58 micknufc // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:02
weve gotta trust what kev ashley and wise are doing,i think things are really happening but not like they used to.weve got to be calm and really trust them.i know kev’s got our best interests at heart(even though the booing of smith) shamefull episode.. they are doing things on the hush coz theyre trying to completely remove this panto weve become over the last few years. trust me lads were gonna be fine
59 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:05
Furrygiblets - About to write the same thing, well said.
Have you heard that gingerbread men have to be called gingerbread people now, what a joke and its not bah bah black sheep anymore its bah bah rainbow sheep. This PC nonsense gets right up my nose.
60 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:06
Well said Giblet, sorry Spyro. It’s just a way to describe somebody, and the quicker everyobdy becomes comfortable with skin colour and talking about it the better.
61 Colo's Curly Locks // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:13
completley agree. ive got black mates who have no problem being called black.
62 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:13
if he was a white kid would people on here say “the white kid”? doubt it. They would say, “the kid”, why should this be any different?
63 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:14
Owen is not a dedicated toon.i see dat we av 1 striker and dat oba
64 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:14
Colo - same, they get annoyed if they are called coloured because it is very patronising.
65 micknufc // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:14
aye its about time the whole pc thing was hung out to dry,if the lads black, he’s black..i know jack charlton is a ignorant bafoon but when he called tony cunningham blackie milburn coz he was stupid to remember names it was hillarious. but who’s the fool jack or tony c.. my political party has turned us into fanny’s.. shame!
66 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:16
Wat abt chamakh
67 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:17
Chamakh doesnt score enough he is a good back-up target man though because he is very good at holding up a ball.
68 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:18
There wasn’t any talk of a white kid at the match though, but people were aware of a black kid at the match which people were rumouring who he was. If somebody went to somebody else, who had seen the picture,”seen that kid at the match we’re supposed to be signing?” it doesn’t distinctly identify him. However, if somebody said “did you see that black kid at the match?” it means you’re identify what he looks like.
How is it derogatory to call a black kid black, when he is actually black? That is suggesting that either the person is using it in an offensive way… Or that to be black is a disadvantage, which i’m sure you didn’t mean
I’m sorry, but I will never give in to political correctness, whether you tell me it’s wrong, or the police say it is, I will never refrain from describing things as they are.
69 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:19
Wat abt chamakh.kk pls any players 2 compete for lb n rb
70 micknufc // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:20
cracking shout that andy son
71 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:23
fair enough points Andy, i will call it quits here before it turns into a mega discussion and discourages some bloggers from posting
72 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:25
Here in nigeria Newcastle is not popular cos of champions league.they all support d top 4.few bolton fans p.mouth.
73 gordond // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:25
The ex Celtic & Ireland goalkeeper Pat Bonnar gets called Paki Bonnar nothing was said about that being racist.
74 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:29
People in here in nigeria blame big sam 4 last season misfortune.can any body help me get d new kit cos it not here in nigeria
75 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:31
Nice one mate, we’re both obviously entitled to our own opinions… But I win! haha joking.
Anyway I hope that High Flyer bloke is right about us signing Derdiyok. This transfer window has been all about signing the “next generation” of stars. Arsenal for Ramsey and Nasri, Liverpool with Ngog and them other weird sounding names, and I don’t think we’ve been left too far behind, if at all!
What really fills me with confidence though is the actual quality mixed the youth of the lads. On top of that, EVERY player we have signed has had the right attitude. Gutierrez is already a fan favourite, Bassong actually said if need be he’d wait on the bench to prove himself, Guthrie is saying all the right things, and Coloccini well… his hair’s lovely
And here’s some of us bloody worrying about the mackems signing Diouf and Malbranque! We surely won’t do worse then last season, and looking at the quality of the clubs these days, top half isn’t that small of an achievement really.
76 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:36
Andy
The media are trying to say the mackems are showing more ambition than us because they are spending big, what a joke. Why should we spend big on Spurs rejects? Diouf is a good player but you never know who is going to come out the tunnel with him, could be the quality, proven premiership player, or could be the below average sulker. Apart from him the rest of their signings are crap and i wouldnt even want them on our bench.
77 Colo's Curly Locks // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:37
lads…really good article in the times 2morra. not the usual drivel the press puts out…although when i saw the headline thts what i thought it was…..very well written article about the toons current state.
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Twelve months ago it was the summer of Sam; this year it was meant to be the summer of love. Yet six days before Newcastle United begin their season with a testing visit to Old Trafford, certainty, stability and purpose are yet to be established at St James’ Park. This is a club with boundless potential, but a split personality, with a strong team and a threadbare squad.
For those supporters blessed (or cursed) with a buoyant outlook, the signs have rarely been rosier. No man taps into the Geordie psyche with more emotional resonance than Kevin Keegan, who, as a player and manager, twice previously persuaded Newcastle to reach for the stars. He is the ultimate salesman; he could charm insomniacs into dreaming. When Keegan succeeded Sam Allardyce in January, a city exhaled.
The optimists point to Mike Ashley and cheer. The owner is a billionaire with enough financial muscle to invest £250 million in the club, erasing a crippling, threatening debt. A man of the people, he sports his replica shirt in the boardroom and talks of having fun and winning trophies, but he will not be held to ransom by mediocre players. Fans have been reengaged, the academy attended to.
Yet the pessimists are not lacking material and what, after all, is the public perception of Newcastle’s close season? A failure to secure leading transfer targets such as Luka Modric, Arda Turan and Pablo Aimar. Relentless takeover rumours. Joey Barton’s imprisonment and subsequent release, when attempts to trim wages and impose discipline were blurred and botched.
Yes, Keegan is the right manager to reenergise the club, but why is there distance between him and the acquisition department? Does that really play to his strengths? Are Keegan and Dennis Wise, the executive director (football), pulling in the same direction? Who is making the decisions? Why has football’s greatest communicator not been encouraged to deliver a more upbeat message? Injuries are already a concern.
For those who tread a middle line, the overall effect is perplexing. Theoretically, Newcastle have never had it so good, but there is little sense of cohesion on Tyneside. In Majorca eight days ago, Keegan spoke with the same boyish enthusiasm that has characterised his professional life, but after Saturday’s 2-1 friendly victory at home to Valencia, the tone was different. It jarred.
Could he confirm that Fabricio Coloccini had completed his move from Deportivo La Coruña? “There’s nothing official,†Keegan said. “I can’t tell you anything at the moment, I don’t think. He was here, that’s for sure.†Earlier that afternoon, Ashley had been wearing Newcastle’s new change kit with the Argentina defender’s name on the back. Does it get more official than that?
Last week it was confirmed that Arthur Cox, a trusty Keegan lieutenant throughout his coaching career, had left the club. Was it retirement (Cox is 68) or cost-cutting? “He’s left the club,†Keegan said. “That’s it.†Is there any explanation? “No. He’s left the club.†Under Allardyce, Newcastle hoarded staff; now they are shipping them.
And what of Alan Smith, who appeared close to joining Everton after Keegan had stated that he did not wish to lose him and was then jeered against Valencia? “Alan Smith is a Newcastle player and that’s it,†Keegan said. “He’s a Newcastle player, no doubt about that. What happens in the future, you’ll be the first to know - you people usually know before we do.â€
The players are patently enjoying Keegan’s methods, but there are not enough of them. As James Milner, the Newcastle winger, put it: “We’ve got the ability in the squad, it’s about the numbers.†Two more weighty signings and a bit of good news - Michael Owen is scheduled to play in a practice match on Thursday - could transform the mood, but the omens are conflicting.
Is there momentum? And in which direction is it propelling the club?
78 legends1892 // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:39
Fcuk the mackems its spurs n villa we should be competing against. Must be europe next year surely!!
79 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:39
i read that and thought the same Colo, was expecting the usual ‘nufc fans set for another yr of misery as blah blah blah’
80 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:39
Yep Colo just read it, i saw he headline and thought ‘The Times, more like The Sun!’, but then i read it.
81 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:41
Legends
i dont care how many players Villa,Spurs, Everton etc buy or how many of their arsehole fans come on here, the mackems will always be the worst for me, cant even stand seeing their pathetic shirt, it actually fills me with rage when i hear them on the radio
82 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:43
He’s saying all the right things in that article, and touches on exactly the only point i’m worried about the club; Dennis Wise is taking care of transfers and not Keegan. Yes, fair enough we’ve got some good ones in so far, but I just feel like we might be a bit more successful if Keegan is the man to sell the club to players.
83 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:45
Andy i heard MA cleared up Wises’ role in his new interview. Wise is in charge of finding and signing youth squad players e.g. Spear, Ranger etc
84 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:50
That’s good news. Doubt he would have even tried to clear up McDermott’s though! haha.
85 macakane // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:52
yep, Andy agree, i cant stand it as well, that Kevins hands, more or less ,are tied in transfers, if he could have some time with , for example, with Modric to take a tour around Saint James Park i think Modric would be playing with us right now. I have nothing against Dennis Wise, but Kevin still is one of the most charismatic figures in English Premier League. I have always been and am an optimist and with the players like Coloccini, Guthrie, Guttierez, Bassong and hopefully one more mc and st coming in, this summer aint so bad and i seriously doubt that we will get such nomination as worst and sixth worst buy of the summer (Smith and Jose Enrique).
86 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:54
‘McDermott..err…err..ye, he likes a drink. His position at the club? Errrrrrrrrrrr, ball collector at training for when Alan Smith skies the ball’.
87 craig chisholm // Aug 11, 2008 at 0:54
nobbys dad….i would be one of the ones that you mention. unlike many others though - i am still not happy with the way things are. sorry dude but thats the way i feel. just cos we win a friendly eveyone is all europe here we come. this result changes nothing in my mind. it was only last week we got beat by doncaster - not so many chirpy blogs after that one eh!! nothing has changed since then other than this game. I am also curious why keegan refuses to say anything about colo when MA has his name on the back of the shift - its almost like KK has given in or something. just seems a bit funky.
88 Isaac Hunt // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:04
We can’t have it both ways. Last time KK just about burned himself out. He was doing everything and McClown was no help. This time, KK just has to concentrate on coaching. Let the others take the strain and extend his shelflife.
89 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:06
Maybe KK just doesn’t want to say anything until its down in writing, there are a fair few managers who are like that e.g. Mark Hughes
Where has all this ‘KK is a victim of our board’ nonsense come from? the only place i can think of is the press. Stop believing what they say, it has been proven time and time again that they know absolutely nothing
90 Isaac Hunt // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:08
He’s older and wiser now
91 The Second Coming // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:22
Colo’s Curly Locks…
I read that too and came on here to see if it caught anyone elses eyes. Such a balanced and informative piece!
Left me wondering how happy Keagan feels watching a team being built around him. With Cox leaving recently, KK might be a little isolated when it comes to squad selection. That must feel bad around the place.
I’m starting to wonder what influence Keagan DOES have at the club.
Any comments?
92 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:29
I think once we’re in some good winning form and see the smiley optimistic Kev really shine through again then we’ll be all calm. Maybe if even KK isn’t having that much say in transfers, are you bothered? I’m not. Whoever was down to the transfers this window is a smart man indeed. He must do though really, if he’s telling us he wants 3 more in. I’m starting to wonder whether he means 3 on top of the surely completed Coloccini deal.
93 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:34
He said Colo + 2
94 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:36
Andy i think he meant 2 more after Fabricio, he then added that that wont be the end in terms of transfers as he expects a few late departures and arrivals
Just read an article by the guardian, and that louise bird is havin another indirect/direct swipe at everything NUFC (yawn)
95 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:37
Ok thanks, just wasn’t sure really.
I’ll be disappointed if 1 of the 2 is another defender, unless a world class one haha.
Top priorities a central attacking midfielder and a striker.
96 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:38
Spyro - He doesn’t necessarily expect them involving our club, he just keeps saying we’ll see.
Lets just say Colo 2 are a given.
Im pretty sure Smith will leave too, well hopefully. Ameobi is Berbatov compared to Smith.
97 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:40
what he probably meant that after the three arrive, any player that leaves will be replaced
98 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:42
Doubt it if he hasnt planned it, there wont be enough time to initiate everything, i personally think he just means that they will look in the market an if there is a player they like going for the right price and they think it is beneficial they may buy him.
99 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:47
The staff will no doubt know who is likely to leave and probably have a few players in mind who can replace them if needed. I cant see any players leaving and not being replaced since we have lost 6 players and are set to sign 6. We wont want a smaller squad than last season thats for sure
100 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:50
Well the only player i see leaving is Smith and he ST coming in as part of ‘Colo 2′ will be his replacement, most probably Derdiyok.
Unexpected departures will be very hard to compensate for as much scouting must go in before so i recon if they see a bargain in the market that is offered to them, they make take it, doubt they’ll have enough time to search properly.
101 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 1:54
the thing is TT you think the only likely departure is Smith due to its media coverage. How do we know teams haven’t enquired about other players? Like i said, the staff will know who is likely to leave and they would have acted accordingly. I doubt Smiths replacement is part of the two coming in as that would make KK’s comments highly contradictory. He states that he wants to keep Smith whilst at the same time bringing in his replacement? i doubt that. Even if that were the case that would leave us with a smaller squad than last season and i doubt we would willingly go into the season shorter of numbers.
102 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:01
The squad is big enough, yes we could do with a few more players but even with the size it is now we are capable of handling a prem season IMO, too much of a fuss is being made of it. I would actually put money on Smith leaving before saturday, just watch this space.
Teams can make enquires but i dont think we will let anyone go who is needed. I just hope to god Smith goes, he makes Ameobi look like Ronaldo in his pomp.
103 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:04
I luv u guys.magpie soup wit meat and fish and pounded yam.i would give u all some if we win manchester united.
104 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:06
dunno if someone edited this but Nile Rangers full name on wikipedia is Dutland Nile Ranger-Custard
lol
105 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:07
i agree Smith will probably leave, i just dont agree that his replacement is one of the two signings KK mentioned…At least i hope not. Only time will tell, i hope his replacement isnt one of the two arrivals as i feel we need a LB & Midfielder regardless of whether Smith goes.
106 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:08
@ Milan
yeah i posted that link up on here earlier, made me chuckle i must say
107 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:09
No need for a LB IMO, We have Enrique, Bassong, Tozer, Kadar and Edgar who will play there.
Top priority is a striker, then an AM, then a LB and finally a DM.
We definitely need a striker, could do with an AM and the last two arent priorities until next season IMO.
108 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:09
manchester united will crush us enerique is one of our weakness he would loose confidence easily.
109 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:13
Enrique will be fine against Man U he isnt playing against Ronaldo this time either. Shame Rooney and Carrick are back
110 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:13
fair enough point about LB, didnt take into account a few of those players you mentioned.
I would rather a ST/AM and a CM/DM come in as i feel out and out AM’s can only be used in specific formations.
Im surprised you dont feel a CM/DM is priority. I dont want to see Butt playing every game as he takes away from out creativity in the middle. And even though KK did mention something about Guthrie playing there, Barton wont be back for a while which means Butt is an automatic starter.
111 Isaac Hunt // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:14
Looks like we’ve still got Owen for the next few months.
112 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:15
Enrique didnt do too bad against R0naldo last time i dont think, but maybe that was because Ronaldo played majority of the game in the middle
113 Tom_Toon // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:16
Butt is good enough for the majority of this season i feel, that why i think DM is a top prioity next season. We also have Geremi to who can do the job there.
Obviously i’d welcome a new DM but we have more pressing transfer before.
114 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:16
taye taiwo wil keep him on d bench till his 30.by then he would b am experienced bench player
115 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:19
forgot all about Geremi TBH, i suppose he would provide decent enough cover at DM, RB or RM if needed
I just hope we dont get hit with our usual array of injuries
116 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:21
A lot of people have unfairly turned on Enrique IMO, he has had a fairly bad pre season but he was good last season considering the circumstances, I feel it takes a brave player to come into the premier league from their country at the age of 21, into a squad where none of your team mates speak your language. Fair dues to him he came and got his head down, hasn’t complained about the climate or about being on the bench once
117 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:22
butt should b used as sub not as a starter.
118 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:26
nicky ass should b used as a back up 2 d team
119 Ganiyu // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:35
all d old men should b kept on d bench.eg cacapa viduka
120 Chris F // Aug 11, 2008 at 2:44
i see louise taylor is spouting her usual anti-toon crap in the guardian.
mackem bint.
121 harrier // Aug 11, 2008 at 4:11
it’s has got to be the fact that kev does know what is going on - but that kev isn’t letting the press know what’s going on that creates these stories.
i believe kev’s treatment of the journalists (apart from NUFC tv obviously) is a direct result of the press’s reaction to his post-chelsea match comments and it has nothing to do with his relationship with the backroom crew. He is just giving the press nothing so they make up discord.
122 ilkkatoon // Aug 11, 2008 at 4:32
totally agree with you harrier he doesnt want the press to make anything out of his comments and i think he is waiting to unveil 2-3 signings at once keegan is all about excitement hes just building it all up!!!!
123 sirjasontoon // Aug 11, 2008 at 7:47
Nobby’s dad Regarding tarts..the proof is in the pudding : )
If I am unhappy I will say so that is the way it is I am afraid and that is the purpose of the blog i.e opinions.
Off course I will be over the moon with a toon win regardless of who controls the regime.
Keep your silly comments to yourself I am not always negative I am just concerned like many about the lack of activity in this and the last window.
So I suggest you boil your thick head and enjoy the blog..bozo.
124 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 7:55
Derdiyok next signing, told you last week he was at the training ground on Thursday and was expected to sign on Friday until Smith could not agree terms. He returned to FC Basle however it appears the Smith issue has been resolved and that Derdiyok will be signing
125 martins // Aug 11, 2008 at 8:09
What about Taiwo Willie? Heard anything?
126 WIGAZ // Aug 11, 2008 at 8:10
How do you know that big willie? black & white blood said on other post that Joe cole may be available & 1 of the boys said MA said we’re signing a player that will blow our minds! hope it’s cole like!
127 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 8:20
Heard nothing re Taiwo however it could be that there is something big to announce, a player was brought to the training ground yesterday for photos to be taken by club photographer. My source will not tell me any details other than what happened as the deal is not finalised, he would however be classed as a MAJOR signing
128 WIGAZ // Aug 11, 2008 at 8:42
Serious big w? wor lass works near training ground like i’ll have to ask her if she saw owt, mind you it would of just been a car wizzing in & out eh? i saw on sky sports paper talk comments some lad said he saw Ashton as training ground talking to Owen & KK, would this be classed as a major signing? i think so! cant be deigo coz he’s at olympics, Could it be Arshavin or Joe cole? hope it’s either of 3 bud! keep us posted!
129 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 8:49
No chance of Ashton given Derdiyok is signing, player yesterday would be a MAJOR signing, contact would not say anymore however I would think he’s close to signing if photo’s were being taken
130 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:06
See Kasper, anyone can post here.
131 HeronMag // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:15
Now I’d just like to come on here and say something. A few weeks ago I almost got laughed off the site cos I suggested I thought James Milner has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in the country. Now Guthrie comes in, plays a few friendlies and some people are calling him the new Gerrard!
I’m not saying I’m not impressed by Guthrie - I am - Very Impressed! - But for me Milner has been our best player pre-season and I’d like to see some fans giving him the credit he deserves.
Sorry. Rant over.
132 dick // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:17
another start to the week, toon still dont have any new players,in fact 2 of the players they have supposed to have signed, gutierrez they still dont have his registration he can’t play against man u, colollini still has’nt signed, KK does’nt even know why, also yet more stories of unrest behind scenes, what the hell is going on, its a shambles
133 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:20
Dick,
Its far from a shambles! Don’t believe everything you read in the gutter press
134 The Entertainers // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:23
I’m a huge Keegan fan, always will be, but he certainly does not know how to handle the press.
Recent examples include the the disagreement with Ashley last season, the remarks about Wise and co, his remarks about not being able to complete next season, his three or four word answers to questions about Cox and Colo! Unfortunatley there are many others.
It appears Kevs not 100% happy about the new set up, but this club has moved on and imo for the better.
Kevs always has been regarded as a great motivator and this is where his biggest strength is and Ashley wants him to concentrate on the first team and has removed everyother distraction from him, including transfers.
Im sure Kev has some input, but not the control he would like. But Ashley has set up a very professional looking scouting team / network and so far can anyone be upset with our signings since this was implimented ? Of course we all wish there were more arrivals, but at least there appears to be no panic buys for the sake of it, which have hurt us in the past.
The club have acted with more professionalism than ever before in my lifetime. Its now time for Keegan to buy into this philosophy and stops making errors the rags pick up on and use there normal spin to turn it into something its not.
135 Raikkonen // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:26
Big Willie- How confident are you in your source?
136 DanTheMan!! // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:30
WIGAZ
Like i said it was a friend of mine taking the mick.
137 toonfan1 // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:31
big willie- will 3 signings be unveiled tomorrow?
138 DANNY TOON // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:31
does anyone know why arthur cox left the club last week?!
139 dick // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:32
big willie I believe nothing in the press, I saw KK interview with my own eyes, he had to ask somebody sitting next to him what was happening with coloccini, but they did’nt know, as for gutierrez thats true as well
140 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:34
The MAJOR signing theory:
XAVI - Publically states he wants to leave Barca, and is the Spanish Gerard. Long shot but EXACTLY the player we need.
Cost £25 million
CARDOZO - Benefica want to sell him and we had a £15 million bid turned down at the start of the summer (allegedly)
Cost = £20 million
BERBATOV - A lot of people still think Ashley is going to bid big for the Spurs man
Cost = £25 million
ARSHAVIN - Only Newcastle and Spurs being linked but Spurs refusing to bid the £24 million asking price….have Newcastle matched this bid?
Cost = £24 million
ARDA - Been linked with Newcastle for six months and if you believe reports earlier in the summer we had two bids turned down
Cost = £13 million
GOMIS - KK and the board all flew to watch him play before the Euros. The only player we know they’ve done this for.
Cost = £10-12 million
JOE COLE - Said to be surplus to requirements with KAKA on his way to Stamford Bridge
Cost = £15 million
141 toonfan1 // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:38
well it wont be another striker james so rule out gomis berba and cardozo. plus rule out xavi as he will not leave barca. arshavin is over priced for a 27 year old. it could be arda but i doubt it. i think it could be joe cole but he plays on the wings and what we dont need is another winger. he could play through the middle though
142 GM // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:38
Big W - Could the phot shoot not have been for collocini? therefore no new signing, not having a go just playing devils advocat
143 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:40
GM,
It wasn’t Colocinni yesterday.
144 dan // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:41
Joe cole would be the perfect signinig,
………………………Given…………………………………….Beye………Taylor………..Coloccini…….Warnock….
.J.Cole……………..Guthrie………………..Gutierrez
……………………….Duff………………………………….
……………..Owen……………..Martins………………
145 GM // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:42
Big W - thats good news then, I guess he is easy to spot with that barnet
146 PAUL GADD // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:44
OH NO, SETANTA SPORTS NEWS HAVE JUST SAID THAT COLOCCINI IS SIGNING FOR SPURS NOW THAT THE CORLUKA DEAL HAS BROKEN DOWN!
147 Lesh // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:52
Tell you what’s worrying me is that the press are building up a story that Kev’s isolated, communication between him and the two London-based directors is non-existant, there’s friction between him and Wise and that Ernie has the power. Wasn’t Wise’s brief to get the players Kev wants? Is he doing it?
Mike Ashley wants to build a successful NUFC, both in terms of entertainment and financial viability - fine and those desires are shared by all of the fans.
But, if Kev doesn’t get the signings and we begin to slide, I’m afraid that the crowd’ll not be calling for Kev’s sacking (ala Big Sam) - it’ll be calling for that of Mr Wise and Mr A will have succeeded in making himself extremely unpopular in record time! If that becomes the case, it’ll be a real shame.
Unless the fans see obvious sign[ing]s of the adventurous spirit shown in building his business empire, he’ll become not the saviour of NUFC but the one who made the Messiah walk.
Mike, if the press is right, it’s time for you to clash some heads together!
If it’s wrong, can we please see something that says all are signing from the same hymn sheet.
148 cooldj // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:55
wow that mate1 advert just came up on the right hand side. phwoar!!
149 Edd Case // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:56
Im not so sure about another BIG signing.
Keegan will be pushing for that and will have done since he first got back. I mean, he brought in some fabulous players last time round - world record transfer fees etc - he’ll be wanting to do the same again.
Coloccini must be ours…
That Swiss striker may be a good signing, but he’s not a BIG signing is he?
James has mentioned a few names already and Joe Cole is one I’d not be suprised about but I can’t see it happening.
I still think Diego is a Keegan type player and I still think we’re in desperate need of creativity in the middle, so he fit’s the bill.
There’s a whole host of Dutch talent who I’m sure we could buy, Assiati, De Guzman etc, Kivuvu etc.
Still, trust in Keegan, I do - we’ll all find out soon enough.
Can’t see us breaking the world record transfer fee again though, not just yet anyway.
150 robertsa // Aug 11, 2008 at 9:58
i rekon we shud just give rangers smith cacapa geremi and 5 million for cuellar. then give norwich ameobi and use that money for konchesky and burdisso.
151 esmag // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:01
dick , u sure are a dickhead. gutierrez was registered before the spain trip. If he is not registered, he wont be featured in the friendly match. Just be patient with the transfers, they will come.
152 Edd Case // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:02
konchesky???? i dont think so.
153 kajman // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:08
morning guys …see where still talking transfers….well guess we’ll find out more today? as for gutierrez regisration..i too read some where that majorca had’nt releasd is registration whilst in spain!!! but seeing as he played in the valencia match guess its arrived..lets hope big willy predictions are right…..
154 toonfan1 // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:09
gutierrez isn’t registered yet esmag. he can still feature in friendly matches because he got special dispensation from fifa. if he doesnt get registered- he wont play against manutd
155 dick // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:10
ashley has been meeting fans to find out why thousands of them are not renewing there season tickets, perhaps its the fact that if we bought just half players we’ve been linked with the last 4 weeks our squad would have 120 players by now and not 14 as it has now. say sorry esmag hes not registered
156 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:10
The thing about the Joe Cole story is that with the world cup qualifers about to start he knows he must be playing regular football to be in the England team, and he won’t get that at Chelsea.
157 toonfan1 // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:12
james- it depends on whether chelsea get kaka and robinho. if they dont get either- joe cole will get games ahead of malouda
158 Raikkonen // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:32
dick- Your such a muppet mate. “Fans” like yourself are a blight on this club.
159 ToonSg // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:32
Thanks for the info BigWillie, how you know that person is a big name signing?
160 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:32
Malouda has played every minute of the pre-season games, but for some reason Cole has been rested
161 TerryMacsPerm // Aug 11, 2008 at 10:57
Mike Ashley has been meeting with fans to allow them to ask questions about the direction of the club and he was terrific by all accounts (so me dad said anyways) answered everything that was put to him honestly and openly and raised some interesting points
162 OzZyMagpiE // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:00
hey guyz will nufctv be showin all da games of da season? thinkin about signin up…
163 Big Willie // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:13
ToonSg
Contact knows the identity but won’t tell me, club wanting to keep under wraps until he has signed the contract.
He will say however that he is a MAJOR signing and will be be surprised. If it comes off (terms agreed, just needs him to sign contract) it will be announced on Tuesday along with Colocinni
164 xfer // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:15
If i recall correctly, i remember KK saying Gutierrez will play on Friday (against PSV), unless something happens to his registration. Fact he played probably meant his registration is okay. Not sure about the FIFA dispension though.
165 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:20
I do find it strange that a player would come in and do a photo shoot before he even signs the contract
But I’m hearing from a lot of people that Joe Cole is coming to the Toon.
166 Spyro // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:20
A lot of NUFC fans aren’t renewing their season tickets because the media have successfully convinced them that we are showing no ambition, and that your ambition is always measured by the size of the cheque in your hand, its their way of getting back at us for not giving them any stories.
167 HalftimeBovril // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:24
Been in meeting all morning so just caught up with todays blog news.
What this i keep reading about Joe Cole??? Surley not, where has this information come from.
Sorry if this has already been done to death but it would be such a coup that i can’t get my head round it. I thought he is a London boy through and through and why would Chelsea want to sell him??
168 scoundrel days // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:24
It’s so obvious that something major is happening… Keegan does know what is going on!
In the press conference he looked over to his right because he knew he wasn’t allowed to say anything about Colicinni and was just confirming with a newcastle spokesman…it’s obvious he wanted to say something but couldn’t.
He wants to announce a group of signings together when they’re all done!
get in there !!!!
169 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:32
Capello said when the world cup qualifers started that anyone not playing regular first team football every week would not get near the England team.
That’s why Crouch and Defoe left bigger clubs to go to Portsmouth.
So don’t be surprised if Cole WANTS to leave Chelsea (he’ll never play every game with Kaka coming)
170 xfer // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:35
scoundrel days , i really hope you are right. Time will tell. But if baffles me why would a club keep signings so quiet.
171 scoundrel days // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:39
xfer thanks bud.
I just put all my faith in BigWillie he aint no Bullshi$$er and seems to have been right so far.
Listen to him!
Big Willie I like your style and keep the news comin’ son!
172 ToonSg // Aug 11, 2008 at 11:59
thanks bigwillie, so the big name signing and Colicinni will be announce on tuesday, so when is Derdiyok going to sign?
173 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 12:03
Of course DAVID VILLA was at SJP at the weekend, maybe he stayed on for awhile….
174 Ross // Aug 11, 2008 at 12:05
aye to be fair big willie you’ve been right on previous occasions regarding a couple of things..i just dont want to get hopes up for it to collapse.
the three players i’ve wanted this window have been colo, derdiyok, and a big name midfielder.
colo seems to be done, you seem sure derdiyok is signing, and you claim there’s a major surprise round the corner.
i’ll say now i dont doubt you as you’ve been right before hand, im just not taking anything in fully until i hear it from the club!
keep the news coming though, its nice to even contemplate that something big might be happening at sjp
175 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 12:09
If I was a betting man, I’d say it was XAVI or JOE COLE.
Both were left out of their last pre-season games (not even on the bench)
Both would stun the world of football.
Spanish press and Sunday newspapers are linking us with XAVI.
People in and around SJP are linking us with JOE COLE.
176 CRAIGG // Aug 11, 2008 at 12:29
I would absolutely love Joe Cole, We could offer him the chance to play behind the strikers (His personal fave position) and he can play in a variety of other positions too.
But arent we dreaming here ?
Surely their would be interest from Liverpool, West Ham, Spurs, Pompey, Villa maybe Arsenal or Man Utd all of which are more attractive than us at present.
Also if those players signed i would have thought he was more versatile and useful than Malouda and Kalou.
Would Love it , Never going to happen
177 James // Aug 11, 2008 at 12:34
Craigg - He’d never go to Man Utd, and the others can’t afford him. Spurs are too busy trying to get Arshavin in that position. Liverpool are trying to get Barry or Silva for that money.
And Joe knows there’s no point leaving Chelsea unless he can play every week….only the toon can offer this and afford him
178 leeattie // Aug 11, 2008 at 13:15
guys, i’m a toon fan and can’t afford the ticket prices to follow my team at the moment, but if everyone on here chants at the games that little bit louder on behalf of me and gets behind the team like i would enjoy then we’ll give the team that extra lift and could be a 12th man, come on lads, stop the negative stuff and give the players a boost and confidence to ATTACK ATTACK ATTACKKKKKKKKKKKK……HOWAY THE TOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
179 xfer // Aug 11, 2008 at 13:26
Joe Cole would be world class. Only technical player England has tbh. Dreaming of him coming, maybe he loves playing for KK’s attacking team? Haha.
180 Cooper // Aug 11, 2008 at 13:31
More chance of us winning the league with shola and smith top scorers than joe cole even thinking sbout coming to us.
i cant believe we are even considering it.
181 Obafan