Gutierrez Registration Still Not Through


There’s just 6 days to go to Newcastle United’s first game of the season at Old Trafford, but Newcastle still haven’t got the registration through for Jonas Gutierrez.

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Jonas Gutierrez – registration still not through

While Jonas has been allowed to play in friendly games, he will not be allowed to play on Sunday unless Newcastle get his registration through this week.

This all goes back to the initial deal on July 3rd, when Real Mallorca were less than happy that Jonas, with Newcastle’s assistance, was legally allowed to buy out his contract.

It was using FIFA’s article 17 of the transfer rules and is often referred to as the Webster law.

It is named after the Scottish defender Andy Webster who left his club Hearts in the summer of 2006 for Wigan Athletic, a year before his contract ended, and when Hearts appealed the case claiming £4M in compensation, Webster won his case and set a legal precedent by paying Hearts his remaining contract amount.

After the Gutierrez transfer, Real Mallorca appealed to FIFA, and as far as we know that appeal is still pending, and we expect that’s the reason the Spanish Club is still holding onto the registration.

We believe that is the current situation, and we wish it wasn’t so.

However, we believe that unless Newcastle can force through his registration in the next six days, Jonas will not be able to play on Sunday.

We need some clarification from the club on what the current situation is.

Comments welcome.



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182 comments so far

  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #1

    Poor management

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  • Spyro

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #2

    its not poor management, what can the management do? His old team are trying to spite us because of how we ripped them off, we just have to wait. Blame FIFA if anything, they take far too long with apeals IMO

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #3

    FFS!!
    Typical.

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  • Irish_toon

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #4

    off the topic but did anyone hear that WEnger said that he wouldn’t buy any more midfielders b4 the start of the season…….If we want to get Inler it appears that the door has just been opened 4 us to snap him up!!!

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  • toonfan1

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #5

    he will probably have his registration through before the manutd match. if not then we still have milner, zog and duff to choose from down the wings but would rather have jonas

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  • xfer

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #6

    It would be a disaster to say the least, playing without Gutierrez. Watched Man U last night, they have a very strong midfield and a battling team. If we want to get anything out of the game, we need to hold our line.

    Not expecting much from the game, but then again, i believe if there is a good time to play Mau U, its this Sunday.

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  • BenjiToon

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #7

    Hang on, hang on. Just because the club haven’t said anything about this doesnt mean its a problem. Keegan said quite clearly that Jonas would only be able to play in the Mallorca cup if the registration was through. He did play, in the first game and of course two home games since.

    I might be wrong but a player registered to one club can only play for another in friendlies if the club holding the registration gives their permission – presumably there’s some document they have to produce. (That must have been the case wiht Bassong right?) For competitive games a club must hold the registration or have a formal loan agreement witht the resigtration holding club.

    If that’s true, then either Mallorca have allowed us the play Jonas without his reg, which would seem very unlikely if they’re in dispute with us, or we hold his reg already.

    Clarification would be helpful but Ed, please don’t join in the scaremongering and panic that the press keeps throwing at us. We rely on you to keep a calm head over these things.

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #8

    Ganiyu
    How exactly is it poor management?!
    Are u Fernando in disguise?

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  • Ben_BKK

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #9

    Bloody great, he’s looked one of our best players in pre-season, and it would be a big loss to have to play Man United without him…

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  • furrygiblets

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #10

    I thought he could only play in the friendlies if his registration was through? That’s what keegan said.

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  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #11

    Who is d next left back coming2 Newcastle

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  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #12

    Im a young lad from africa

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  • Leeg123

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #13

    http://deportivo-la-coruna.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1717&page=92

    heres a pic of coloccini in st james and asheley wearing the purple top wiv coloccini on it. scroll down the page a bit to get to the picture.

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  • Beatski

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #14

    I dont think we’re in dire need of another left back, another midfielder and striker are more important IMO

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  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #15

    I guess u all must b citizens of Newcastle.

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  • Jezza

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #16

    It’s not just the Manchester game I’m worried about. If we don’t get his registration by 31st August, we won’t be able to play him till January at the earliest and I wouldn’t bet against such a scenario unfolding. It’s just the sort of farcical situation that occurrs time and time again at this club.

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  • furrygiblets

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #17

    Ganiyu, why do i not believe you?

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #18

    We need this through – he was class on Saturday and we will need that sort of class. Especially against a weakend Manure side !!!

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  • James

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #19

    Right now, I fully expect this to the team against Man Utd on Sunday because the new players won’t be ready for such a big game, and I don’t think Owen will be fit

    ——————–GIVEN———————–
    –BEYE—–TAYLOR—CACAPA—–ENRIQUE
    —MILNER——GUTHRIE—–BUTT—-NZOGBIA
    ———————DUFF—————————-
    ———————MARTINS———————-

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  • Born Again Geordie

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #20

    furrygiblets – for ‘young lad from africa’ read Anal Oliver or even a Sun reporter!!!! We are the secret club insider !!!!! lol 🙂

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #21

    James where is coloccini?
    Ps: Doesn’t matter
    I don’t theink he’ll play either

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  • furrygiblets

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #22

    or even Fer(i believe we will sign 4 players in a week)nando

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  • xfer

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #23

    Dont quite believe Enrique will start against Man U. Zog will probably start at LB. Gutirrez in the team unless registration problem persists.

    Other than that, James, i think you got the right way we’ll start against Man U.

    After Duff’s recent performance, and his consistent inability to dribble past defenders on the wing, he’ll play as a support striker for Martins.

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #24

    lol Ganiyu
    Cut the act now please:)

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  • Will

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #25

    “I don’t think the people and the structure we have now would have made the mistakes of the past.”

    Mike Ashley said that on the 9th of August. So what is this, if it’s not a mistake?

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  • James

    Aug 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #26

    Not convinced Guiterrez will start at Old Trafford, KK likes to bring his players in slowly, and throwing him at Old Trafford ahead of Milner is not a KK move.

    Coloccini will be a toon player by tomorrow but he’ll never start at Old Trafford. Far too big a game for someone who hasn’t played for us yet.

    Be very surprised if he picks Zogbia at left back because he never defends and we need a solid defence

    Of course, if rumours become fact, then JOE COLE may well be making his debut….

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  • aqmin

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #27

    ed, tell me you’re lying… sh@@t

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #28

    lol how you know if he’s deceiving us?

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #29

    A don’t think ze Joe Cole rumour is true
    If anything we’ll be put off by the tag.

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  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #30

    So u dont believe me.im a pure fan of Newcastle in nigeria.most people here support d big 4.few bolton and p.mouth.im also a registered fan do u want proof?

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  • Spyro

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #31

    Sky Sports predict we will finish 10th

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  • Bryan

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #32

    I really find this hard to take. Firstly this registration fiasco with Gutierrez and now the longest running transfer deal in living memory for Coloccini.
    I know that the Gutierrez situation is proberbly down to FIFA but what is happening with the Coloccini deal?
    NUFC need to inform the fans as to why this is dragging on for so long. Is there an underlying problem somewhere that we need to know about.
    All these problems dont help Dennis Wise`s case as our main man when it comes to transfer dealings.
    Come on NUFC get your fingers out.

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #33

    lol registered fan :S
    Nah al let you off
    I kinda believe it

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #34

    Bryan
    The coloccini deal is done, just hasn’t been announced.
    My display pic on msn is ashley wearing his coloccini top

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  • Spyro

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #35

    is this the most panicky blog in history? i think so

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #36

    “It’s important that the supporters are with us so that when an away team comes to St.James’ Park they know that the fans are behind us,” the 25-year-old told nufcTV.

    “I know already that we have very good fans and my first two games at home I have enjoyed very much.

    “I hope the fans like me and I was happy to help get the win against Valencia.”

    Indeed, it was from Jonas’ expert centre that Steven Taylor’s rebounded header was smashed home by Milner for a dramatic late winner.

    “It did not matter who scored or set up the goal, we were all just very happy to get what was an important win,” he added.

    “That gives us confidence going to Man United next weekend.

    looks promising he’ll play, look at the last quote.
    Unless he’s speaking as a unit?

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  • Dan13

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #37

    agreed spyro

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  • Ganiyu

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #39

    Team selection determines.consistent performing players like martin beye spider man etc will help us achieve a top 4 i believe in dem.people in nigeria say if he scores alex fergi would bring out his own mask as a sign of respect

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  • Geoffb1830

    Aug 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #40

    in the chronicle it says about Keegan “He does have a Portuguese left-back on trial from Boavista, whose agent is the Gateshead-based Frank McAvennie, and this is a position he has been wanting to strengthen all summer.”
    does anyone know anything about this player?

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