Glenn Roeder – Newcastle Club Is A Tragedy


Glenn Roeder has today called Newcastle United a tragedy going from one disaster to another.

Glenn Roeder – club goes from one disaster to another

Since Tuesday morning – that’s a full two days since the disappointing last day of the transfer window, Newcastle United executives and manager Kevin Keegan have seemingly been locked away in intense discussions.

It’s taking an awful long time, and as usual the most important part of the club, the fans, are completely left in the dark.

Kevin Keegan was widely reported to be on his way out of St James’ Park, but things yesterday seemed to settle things down a bit, when we were told Kevin was still the manager, and he has not been sacked and did not resign.

Glenn Roeder, who of course managed Newcastle from 2006-2007, and is now in charge at Norwich City, told BBC Radio Five Live:

“The club is a tragedy and it goes from one disaster to another.”“There’s no stability at the club and I don’t think there has been for a long time.”

“They go from one manager to another and the people who suffer the most are the most important people, the supporters.”

“When they talk about Newcastle being a great club, it’s only great for one reason – because it has great supporters.”

It’s hard to disagree with Glenn, based on the actual facts over the last ten years or so.

And which other company treats it’s customers with such disdain?

When we were in consulting boot camp about 16 years ago at IBM, we were told the customer was GOD, and if they said jump – you jumped. We suppose none of our Newcastle officials ever took that course – but it seems they should have.

Oh well, mustn’t get too downhearted – when things look really bad, usually there’s a silver lining about to appear- let’s hope that happens today.

Comments welcome.



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66 comments so far

  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #1

    hes right it is a tragedy, a huge club, great support, but alsways falling on their knees when it comes to senior management etc. surely now after this, keegan HAS to get his way, ashley has to follow the fans and admit he got it wrong with wise etc.ansd ed- may i say youve done brilliant over the last few days.

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  • ANDYGLOSTOON

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #2

    Good man is Glen,i have a lot of time for him.

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  • ronaldeano

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Glens right, although i wish he wasent

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  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #4

    yeah, i like glen,mot the best manager about but full of heart and tells the truth. but regarding keegan, i believe hes got so much weight behind him for what he wants ashley simply cant not give in. he knows all hell will break loose at nufc if kev goes, what does he want? to be able to go to the games with his family and the supporters behind him, or does he want to be a hate figure on tyneside? im sure kk has laid down the laws on him staying

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  • HeronMag

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #5

    I haven’t heard a single Newcastle fan criticize Roeder since he left.

    Another manager who actually understands the North East. I was sad to see him go.

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  • nando

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #6

    I was told this morning that keegan isnt leaving.

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  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #7

    get roeder back as one of kk scouts!

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  • Spitfire

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #8

    Keegan has to win this stand-off otherwise this signals the end for the club which will go into terminal decline. Another manager just will not get the backing of the fans. I for one will shred my season ticket, as will my son. I’ve had enough. If Keegan goes so do I. After 39 years of supporting the club through thick and thin I am at the end of my faith my belief and my love affair

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  • RobB

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Glad to hear from Roeder. He wasn’t right for Newcastle Manager, but a good guy. I don’t think he ever lost his affection for the club.

    I have no confidence that this will be resolved in favour of KK. I think John Beresford was right yesterday when he said losing KK would be a catastrophe. Its not just those who attend matches who would be furious, but the whole of the North east – not just Newcastle but Tyneside, Northumberland and much of Cumbria and Durham.

    Could hardly sleep last night with rage that some jumped up nobody from down south (Llambias) thought he could sack KK. Madness!!

    I’m also at a loss to understand why anyone should believe the ‘continental model’ of management should work in England. What has it done for Tottenham?

    I hope when Ashley gets back he sees sense and realises NUFC is not just a football club – it is a whole region. (almost a country!)

    I also hope KK doesn’t dig in too much – he also needs to compromise a little.

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  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #10

    we should all ring taxi firms accross the north east, taxi for wise and llambias please.asap

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  • I like Glenn Roeder as the manager because I think he did pretty well managing the team.

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  • Martin

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #12

    Heron Mag – me too!

    He was a top man, brought in Oba and suffered our worst injury crisis in recent history…Granted he flopped out of europe in a disapointing way (genuinely thought we’d win it that year) but do you reckon Man U would have won the CL with Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Vidic, Evra, Hargreaves and Carrick all out injured? Not a chance!

    Here’s and interesting statistic for you all aswell…He has Newcastle’s 3rd best win percentage and points return in recent years – who beats him?

    1) Keegan
    2) Robson
    3) Roeder

    So not that shabby a manager!

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  • If Roeder returns to NUFC, imagine the trio : Keegan, Wise and Roeder.

    We could bring best and young players to the club!

    Hello to Jozy Altidore, Freddy Adu and Barnetta

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  • irish_al

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #14

    roeder is the type of character who could be succesful in the director of football role (think there was talk of him going back to such a role whilst caretaker, but then he got bit by the management bug)

    or i wonder what david dein is doing now?

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  • Sav

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #15

    We’d be a little bit less tragi-comic if you’d fancy takkin’ Shola hyem to Norwich, Glenn?

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  • WesToon

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #16

    Good Ol’ Glen,good man he is!!
    Had terrible injuries with the squad when he was here,The team also played decent football under him!!

    Good luck at Norwich mate

    P.S any1 seen Tom Toon in a while??? Where has he gone??

    Come back Tom

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  • havanaclue

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #17

    we need statements from both factions -as this turmoil , if affecting the whole of the north east – i bet many people will have not gone to work or even if they have they will not be in the right frmae of mind
    its true about Newcastle ,when the team does well , the place is buzzing ,but when it struggles ,there is a cloud hanging over the city!!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #18

    Always had time for Glenn and watched him play for the toon in the 80’s.

    The Toon job was too much too soon though which was a shame as he is a really decent man.

    Agree with his words..the board are doing themselves no favours and treat the fans like shit.

    Ashley get outa Town and take piggy eyes wise with you..you have let us down badly.

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  • Davies

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #19

    Entertainers?

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  • hitman

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #20

    roeder did well when he was the youth director,bring him back

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #21

    WesToon noticed our Tom on here yesterday..so he is alive..probably playing championship manager : )

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  • hadrian

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #22

    he may be right , but i hate all these turds comming out of the woodwork to give their tuppenceworth like it matters, in times like these 🙁

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #23

    PS I agree he would make a great football director…and has a genuine love for our club having played and managed both the youth and senior team.

    Good luck anyway Mr Roeder Top Man !

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  • hitman

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #24

    one thing is for sure its not just us toon fans that have lost respect for ashley and co,its everyone across the football world,he has to go

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  • Martin

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #25

    hadrian – they’re probably not clambouring over themselves to comment – but Roeder being an ex manager; it’s likely that in an interview our club will have been brought up!

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  • Leo

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #26

    glenn roeder is a great man as well as a great manager for the toon he did so well with the team he had and fat freddie sheappard got rid of him when we wanted fatty gone

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  • Davies

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #27

    Interesting article on talkofthetyne.com

    Another inside source saying:

    I’ve been told by the agent of a Newcastle player – but this is unconfirmed so you have to treat it as hearsay – that a number of the recent signings are de facto owned by third-parties. And that they may not withstand close scrutiny by the Premier League or FIFA.

    Make of it what you will gentlemen.

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  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #28

    something has to come out of st james today.and on and on and on……

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #29

    Post on Rivals . net

    A Twist In The Tale
    By Ken Waugh – 04/09/2008 10:23
    There’s all kind’s of stories about at the moment, but we have one aswell – this one, takes the saga to the next level…..

    Basically, we are only a fanzine, and we know that – we aren’t a major media source and we don’t plan to bring you breaking news etc.

    We do like to think we bring you balanced views and articles on here, along with a good laugh on the forum.

    However, from time to time we get to hear things, some true, some false..

    Yesterday afternoon, we got some news from somebody close to an NUFC player, obviously, we can not and will not name the source and we won’t say to you, this is 100% fact – none of us know this..what we do say, is that we believe there may be some truth in the comments made, and if so, could also be another reason to fuel the arguement between Keegan and Wise, Jiminez etc..

    Anyway, the contact gave us the following, make of it what you will – I’m sure that somewhere, the media will have heard this too, but maybe they don;t want to run it, maybe we aren’t allowed, but here goes…

    I’ve been told by the agent of a Newcastle player – but this is unconfirmed so you have to treat it as hearsay – that a number of the recent signings are de facto owned by third-parties. And that they may not withstand close scrutiny by the Premier League or FIFA.

    Best Wishes

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  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #30

    Tom_Toon is Dennis Wise!

    Sounds daft I know but think about it for a while – makes sense.

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  • RobB

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #31

    The only one who CAN sort this out is Ashley. He needs to be in on this and not just talking to people on the telephone. Wise and LLambias should do the decent thing and resign – they’ll never be forgiven in the North east. If Ashley gets this right he might be in due course.

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  • irish_al

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #32

    desmond i would prefer keegan, roeder, jimenez and vetere(on the massive assumption he and vetere were the ones involved in the players we’ve managed to bring in, not wise) i don’t know that wise has any involvement with the issues currently being discussedbut based on his footballing history and off field antices i dont think he was an ideal appointment for us (it would be like having roy keane as manager)

    personally my opinion (as wrong as it may be) is that it is the lack of a chairman with experience in football may be the thing that has let us down here

    anyone from other walks of life would baulk at things like agents fees and such (you only really see these figures in such negotiations) and backed out of deals because he thought he was getting taken for a ride (probably was but it’s required to get the players in)

    i don’t believe ashley is in a position to throw money at the club but he does want to compete, this will take time, and and understanding and agreement in terms of how thisd will be done, hopefully that is why these talks are taking place

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  • carl

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #33

    i reckon ashleys on the phone to some arab or indian right now, with a big brown stain on his big white pants

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  • beyethegreat

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #34

    glenn actually didnt do to bad of a job considdering the injury crisis

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  • Greg

    Sep 4, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #35

    Have to agree with Glenn Roedent on that one

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  • Toon Chicken

    Sep 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #36

    Tom_Toon is Dennis Wise.

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  • irish_al

    Sep 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #37

    saying that glenn is a bit of an enigma, as long as you fire him and reinstate him straight after he’ll always do well, haha

    seems to have second album syndrome

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  • ice dog

    Sep 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #38

    to MA,and fans dont want to give away my age,in my day i was so lucky,i saved my tanner to go to sjp, to see wor jackie,bobby mitch,the great len white on the right wing,later agreat cf,lucky again to play a bit myself,plus keep a job train,turn out on a sat,bouns if we won,less for draw,nought for loss oh those great days of the 50s if were not at sjp by 11.30am you didnt get in.my point things move on but some will never change:ONE the great fans,without those,the following does not happen,money,success,ect,ect,the BOSS,ran everything on playing side,god in my day you never saw a chairman,only the BOSS, take note MA

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  • mitch

    Sep 4, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #39

    Tom Toon proberbly went back to school

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  • El Stigage

    Sep 4, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #40

    We did do ok under glen but he was never gonna set the world alight with his prowess in the transfer market. Did glen have full respect of the players? Could he pull in big names?

    Keegan has the respect and the touch needed in the transfer market if only MA would trust him, seems to me Keegan has been installed as manager to keep the fans happy while MA and his cronies run the club from behind the scenes….Keegan should use this opportunity to secure funding for the next transfer window and convince MA he has the ability suceed without Wise…. 20 million to spend on his own players, seems fair as Man Citeh will be throwing money around like theres no tomorrow.

    I dont blame Kevin for spitting the dummy, he was made to look stupid. I 100% support Keegan and hope he gets what we wants, control of transfers, hardball!

    Any Comments?

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