LMA To Newcastle – Sort Yourselves Out


League Managers’ Association (LMA) chief executive Richard Bevan today has called on the Newcastle United Board to sort themselves out to ensure their next manager (4th in 15 months) does not suffer the same fate as Kevin Keegan.

Kevin Keegan – resigned after just 8 months in charge

Keegan resigned last night from one of the best supported English Premier League sides, after failing to agree on how the club would be run, specifically on player recruitment.

Newcastle fans, by a large majority, have sided with Kevin Keegan, and have been quick to blame Londoners Mike Ashley and Dennis Wise, who last January was installed as Executive Director of Player recruitment, just two weeks after Kevin was appointed manager.

The club are now looking for their 4th manager in 15 months and 6th manager in four years and LMA’s Bevan believes the next man who takes over must have his role much more clearly defined:

“Newcastle failed to create a structure where Kevin Keegan could flourish,” “It was like having an orchestra with three conductors and sooner or later it was going to break down.”“I think I would have liked to hear Newcastle talking about how to build a model that works, how they are going to create a clear chain of command,”

“The dispute between Kevin and the club is in the hands of the lawyers but at no time in our discussions did Kevin talk about compensation.”

“The most important thing for Kevin was that the manager must have the right to manage.” “A couple of nights ago I was with Kevin for a long period of time and his sole focus was with the fans.”

“He was torn and when he had no alternative to resign his thoughts were for the fans. That sends a message to Newcastle.”

Bevan said he was not against the continental approach to management – which seems increasingly being used at English clubs – where one man coaches the team and player recruitment is left to an executive at boardroom level.

What he did object to, however, was a change in structure having already employed the manager.

“I’ve heard a few people saying the continental model doesn’t work but I think it does in certain situations,” “It is different for Kevin because he was in charge before other people came on board.”“The next person who comes on board has to make sure there is a clear chain of command and there are shared goals.”

But we don’t think that’s completely true, because Kevin was told in mid-January of the upcoming change in the structure at the club, by his own admission, and also told that Dennis Wise was one of the candidates for the Football Director job.

What Kevin didn’t understand, was that Dennis would have more control than him, over who came to the club, and who even left the club, and that was the specific point of conflict and disagreement.

And of course, then Chairman Chris Mort said at the time, that Kevin would control all outgoing and incoming transfers at the club, and that has turned out not to be true, and ultimately has led to Keegan’s resignation from Newcastle.

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342 comments so far

  • scandinavian magpie

    Sep 5, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #1

    1st

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  • Estechco

    Sep 5, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #2

    What muppet would want the job under these terms?

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  • Ericles

    Sep 5, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #3

    I am now convinced that Wise, and his back up Llambias, were brought in to do just what has been done. Dennis the menace, the Trojan Horse brought into NUFC to wreak his cowardly actions from the distance of London on KK and NUFC. Ashley has shown his true colours with his utter contempt for NUFC, the fans, Newcastle City Council, and indeed the very sport of football itself. A City banker once described the money grabbing unfeeling ogre as a man “who likes to park his tanks on other peoples lawns.” Get off of our grass in Newcastle you fat gangster and take the rest of your London hoodlums with you. KK has been set up, made into a patsy by a bunch of could not care less get rich at any cost entrepreneurs. They set about to take advantage of KK’s honourable soul to destroy him. They knew he could never, in his loyalty to the fans, to Newcastle and the club, accept their shameful demands. KK remains an honourable man. Shame on the shite in our boardroom. It is a bad day not just for NUFC but English soccer as a whole. Listen Ashley – we will be back. We will still be the toon army and we will have some genuine millions (fans and somebody’s money) to kick you and your rotten bandits out of Tyneside.

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  • Black and White Blood

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #4

    These board have to go – Any manager who comes in will be nothing more than a ‘Yes Man’. All the squad was up for sale….What a future our club has under these crooks!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/DWMANUFC/petition.html

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  • Spyro

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #5

    “What muppet would want the job under these terms?”

    Any modern manager

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  • Chris F

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #6

    Gus Poyet.

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  • dylan2k8

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #7

    ed can you plz write an artical telling the fans nufc not to go 2 the game but to protest on keegans treatment get wise and llambias sacked and get ashley to sell

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  • dylan2k8

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #8

    as a fan you will know what it feels like

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  • Steeley

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #9

    I see Poyet is now hot favourite for the job! Oh dear! Cant see that going down very well.

    Could this be the first manager in ages where the majority of the fans are NOT behind him no matter what, as has been in the past few such as Souness, Roeder and Allardyce – all who split the fanbase.

    I Still think a boycott of some sorts (but which will not affect the players) is the way forward. Perhaps a few mins at the start of the match where nobody makes any noise, or takes their seats 5 mins late etc.

    I think it has only just kicked in for me what has really happened, and I dread to see what’s next! I only hope they can bring in a manager who is not one of the stooges (i.e. Poyet) or even worse, install Wise as manager!!!

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  • dougnufc

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #10

    dylan2k8, do you really think that is a good idea?

    first off, keegan has left, he will not be coming back and if the stadium is empty, it will affect our players and it will also ruin our reputation. we are known as the best fans in the country, so we should stand behind the club no matter what happens

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  • Mitch H

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #11

    @ Spyro,

    grow up mate, yourobviously not a toon fan, or a geordie, or for that matter even an adult.

    You sound like a 12 year old cockney spurs fan?

    Jon on mate, your a complete mug.

    BOYCOTT THE CLUB UNTIL THIS REGIME HAS GONE !!

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  • Sloop Jon B

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #12

    there will be more people at the next match than any other IMO. It remains to be seen if they go into the ground- or remain outside and take their shoes off.

    Nearly all the tickets are already bought and paid for, so not turning won’t hit them in the pocket. If you do go- don’t by booze and pies etc.

    We’re in for a bumpy ride!

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  • 51times

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #13

    “What muppet would want the job under these terms?”

    When Wise installs his puppet manager, this question will be answered.

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  • ELFER

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #14

    What woudl a protest lead to? More confustion for the players and I guess this is not what we all need!

    We need a good modern manager (who will not walk away) who loves it be not alone responsible for transfers – a real manager who knows that transfers cannot be done by one man alone anymore, there’s just too much money in the game today!!

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  • Black and White Blood

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #15

    SSN are reporting that there are rumours that Keegan may return as manager!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/DWMANUFC/petition.html

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  • natedawg

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #16

    do ya reckon ashley will give sir bobby a call and try and persuade him to take the job to win us back over, but seriously what does everyone think the next move will be be?

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  • Spyro

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #17

    Mitch

    Care to back up your statement with any kind of substance? probably not

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  • Mitch H

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #18

    Ed, why do you keep allowing spyro to post.

    Its ovbious he’s not a toon fan, a geordie, of even an adult?

    Get him banned !

    BOYCOTT THE CLUB UNTIL ASHELY & WISE ARE GONE !

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  • Kash

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #19

    @Spyro – US, that would be US THE FANS don’t wnat a foreign manager!

    We want someone relaible and someone we TRUST!

    Not some foreign muppet or some cockney mug!!!

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  • barcode1892

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #20

    Yesterday was a very sad day indeed in the club’s history and to me is as sad as the day Bobby was sacked by Fatboy for finishing 5th in the league. So if you want to help sort this mess out then do not go to the Hull game and hopefully Ashley and the cross eyed Dwarf will get the message and leave the club. The best thing that can happen now is for the club to be sold to the indians or the arabs and then bring back the Messiah to manage the club that we all love his way .

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  • mitch

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #21

    I will say it again I will go to the match as I love football I have worked damm hard to pay for my season ticket it is my decision alone and noone can tell me otherwise if you do not want to go dont but do not try forcing your stand off on others

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  • The Legend Of Jonas

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #22

    Ashley isn’t going to just sell up, so all of you calling for his head are wasting your time imho. I want Wise to go, but it doesn’t look like he is. Llambias is a complete stranger to us and has created a gulf between himself and us, if the recent fiasco is true – i.e. ‘the letter’.. He will never be accepted now, and if he is as half as clever as his past dealings make out, then he should just hold his hands up and leave, it’s his only option if he wants a drop of credibility in all of this.

    Looks like it’s down to 3 Spanish speaking managers in Poyet, Marcelino Toral or that other bloke mentioned.. I didn’t quite think that when Ashley said he wanted to do an Arsenal, that he actually did, just with the Spanish instead of the French..

    Viva La Toon Army!!

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  • 51times

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #23

    natwedawg – Sir Bobby is dying, he said himself that he probably won’t last the season.

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #24

    alright, think everyone needs to chill out with the spyro bashing,lol.
    Kash-give me a successful, available British manager that you’d be happy with taking the job?
    when you say you dont want anyone foreign or anyone cockney, you basically state you want a manager from the north east.
    name the list of available managers born and bred in the north east willing to take the job?..
    Face facts, the closest to that is KK.
    I dont want wise, i dont want poyet.
    i’d take deschamps. i think we’d be be very lucky if he agreed considering the state we’re in

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  • richie

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #25

    sven gorn eriksson

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  • The Legend Of Jonas

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #26

    Am I the only one that thought Spyro was just being sarcastic?

    Modern manager = do what you’re told..

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  • NUFC75

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #27

    fatshly, WISE, llimb OUT

    ZICO, KEEGAN CHAIRMAN IN………

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  • Black and White Blood

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #28

    Born Again Geordie – With respect you are incorrect mate – Sack the board is a metaphor for the departure of the board. A way of achieving this is through forcing the board out.
    Fed up of commentators and so called radio media saying you can’t sack the board – Well I’m not sure how many of you remember the old owner Lord Westwood.
    Westwood wouldn’t support our old manager Joe Harvey with finances, and as a result the fans were calling for Westwood and the rest of the board to go – he used to laugh and shrug the suggestion of leaving off, as a result the fans held a mass, and I mean a mass demonstration on the day of the match and blockaded the entrances into the ground so that the players were unable to enter. Once the players finally gained entrance fans refused to go in and watch the game. One week later Lord Westwood was gone.
    Come on guy’s I need your help – Ashley OUT!!
    http://www.petitiononline.com/DWMANUFC/petition.html

    *******************************************
    SSN are reporting that there are rumours that Keegan may return as manager!

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  • Spyro

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #29

    Mitch H

    “Its ovbious he’s not a toon fan, a geordie, of even an adult?”

    Do you need me to teach you how to string a sentence together?

    Kash

    Nonsense. The appointment of a top class manager and a few wins will return everything to normal.

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  • Mitch H

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #30

    @ spyro,

    Your comments never fail to back up that fact that you are a complete mug.

    I wouldnt even bother to get into a debate with you. I hate gobby little kids like you, who no nowt about this club & the geordie people.

    Your just pond life mate.

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  • Archie

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #31

    Cant see Poyet even getting a look in.
    What has he actually done”?

    It has to be a big name – Ashleys last chance to impress, and try to rescue the situation.

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  • SteveM

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #32

    I read SBR biography where he talks about being presented with players at all the european clubs he won trophies with. KK as much as I rate him as a person and as a manager is not perfect and he has run out on his contract when the club obviously wanted him to stay. KK strengths were always his passion and enthusiasm but it always ct both ways from storming out of games after being sent off to threatening to leave if the club didnt sign Peter Beardsley – sometimes it works some times it doesnt. The difference now is that you are talking massive money and global audiences – most fans of newcastle will unlike me never get to see their team play live. Most money will come not from fans but from advertisers who are advertising as much to neutrals and opposition fans as newcastle fans. Newcastle alternative is to sellout to an arab country or american sports investment group – the ‘local’ character of Newcastle is really gone forever – If you want to support a Newcastle based club that is true to its roots go and support newcastle blue star – they are a real geordie team and have a much better chance of winning things than newcastle united and another 5,000 fans every saturday would really make the difference.

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  • JonnyToon

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #33

    We have to back the players now !!! Show your discontent with Ashley but back the players !!

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  • BennAllen

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #34

    This is how i view the current situation.. i by no means am on ashleys side.. in fact i want him out..

    keegans resignation nearly bought a tear to my eye.. but take any [bad] situation like we started with at the beginning of the week. the situation has to get worse in order for it to get better..

    i.e when mike ashley bought the club we were in a ‘bad’ situation, the sacking of sam allardyce was the worse part of it [although the results wernt good] it meant the players were messed around, keegan came in and had a tough time were the results were equally as bad, then we picked up and became better,

    bad situation —- becomes worse —- gets better.

    it happens in every situation in life..

    the “bad situation” was the fall out between the board and kevin..

    the “become worse” part was kevin leaving..

    the “gets better” part is the next manager when he is given the job he will have his job outlined so this will not happen again..

    having said this.. i hope mike ashley sees sense.. and sacks wise, and offers keegan the job back.. and they can negotiate kevins exact job which should be all aspects of the playing side..

    what do you think ?

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  • natedawg

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #35

    51 times i no i was joking , but with the way we are going through managers he would prob be fired b4 end of the season

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  • ice dog

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #36

    mitch,i have been toon man now for 55years seen many,many chairmen come and go we have always gave in and went back to sjp when told things will now get better, i now think the fans must say enough is enough you have our had our trust,faith,money long enough with NO return

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  • The Legend Of Jonas

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #37

    Actually, the best thing all the Lads and Lasses could do who are together on match days, is to make a big sign in Spanish to support the new boys.. That would work wonders I reckon..

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  • Ericles

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #38

    I think the loss of Kevin is the result of a callous and deliberate plan right from the start. KK was a temporary sop to the fans whilst Ashley consolidated his grip on NUFC. Then arrived the Trojan Horse in the shape of Dennis Wise. Once the “good” chairman (Mort) had soothed the way in comes a London gangster in the form of Llambias. These last few days have shown this bunch of hoodlums for what they really are. Asset strippers from the “big wen”, shameless profiteers who display nothing but calculated contempt for KK, the fans, the players, and Newcastle City Council. They never intended to keep Kevin and have him bring back the glory to NUFC. The final Judas act was Llambias exploiting the honourable soul and honesty of KK by forcing him to resign. For all of it KK remained an honest man loyal to NUFC and the fans. The man really is a hero. Get out Ashley and take your gangsters with you. A City banker once said that Ashley is a man “who likes to park his tanks on other people’s lawns.” Not on our sacred pitch you don’t Ashley. Pack up your shoddy sports goods and go. Sell up so that we can have some clean money and clean air back in St James Park.

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  • KKToon

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #39

    Gyus the problem is not who will be our next doomed manager but how to get rid of those selfish b******s!!! Otherwise they will just be in control of whoever manager it is and will ruin our club!!! Honestly I won’t settle for a manager other than KK or Big Al!!!

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  • Davies

    Sep 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #40

    MITCH H – Have a word with yourself mate. Spyro is simply being objective.

    None of us would be psoting on here if we weren’t fans. You can do what you like, but don’t expect others to join you just because you type in block capitals.

    Remember, whatever you think of Ashley, the team’s performance will be affected greatly by an empty stadium. There must surely be a lest destructive means of protest.

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