Danny Guthrie was given a red card in the closing stages of Hull’s 2-1 victory on Saturday, when he seemed to lose his temper and hacked down Craig Fagan, with the ball nowhere near.
Craig Fagan - broken tibia
The terrible news this morning is that it seems the tackle has broken Fagan’s leg, and Danny could be in serious trouble now with the FA.
Fagan left St. James’ Park on crutches on Saturday, but the full extent of the damage was not known at that time, and the Hull medical staff were hoping it was just very severe bruising.
However, an X-ray this morning confirmed the 25-year-old suffered a fractured right tibia in the lower leg, and is now expected to be out between six weeks and three months.
Hull manager Phil Brown was understandably critical in his assessment of Guthrie’s tackle.
“It cannot be tolerated, it needs to be kicked out of the game,” “When you see that the end product is him putting a fellow pro in a cast, it’s just not right.”“That’s the horrible side of the game. I don’t care what is going on at Newcastle, you cannot tolerate this.” “If I go back to the incident, my players were killing time in the corner, something that every Premier League club does, no matter who you are.”
“In the process of doing that, someone has decided to take the matter into his own hands and lashed out at Craig Fagan.”
Phil is right, and there’s no excuse for Danny’s actions at the end of the game, when his frustration seemed to boil over.
It’s part of Guthrie’s football education, and he seemed to just lose his temper, but the consequences may be severe for the lad, now that his tackle has injured Fagan so severely.
When will we get any good news about Newcastle?
Wishing and Hoping.
Comments welcome.
203 responses so far ↓
1 MarK // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:21
fractured his leg…must be minor aswell if he was able to continue playing..papers making it seem alot worse than it was…but it was bad like
2 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:22
That will be a further suspension
3 AndyNUFC // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:23
GET IN GUTHRIE SON WHAT A LEGEND
4 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:25
nar he’s not a legend for doing that
your the type who the press feeds on.
Your the type for encouraging this shit that us geordies always get pounded with in the media!
Joay Barton in the making
5 seetow // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:25
well done lad, break that fag’s leg for wasting time. get in son!
6 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:26
another man doon,last thing we need.
7 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:26
eee christ
you’s must be all thugs and the radgee tramps who were simply protesting for a bit of the camera
8 Allman20 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:27
Silly boy, he’ll learn by his mistakes, sadly it may have come at the wrong time all together..
Bring on a new owner and the reinstatement of the messiah…
9 Jack // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:27
2 of those first 5 comments are just as disgusting as the kick was itself. :/
10 A.L 9 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:28
AndyNUFC Faygen is a c**t but he didn’t deserve that, and now Guthrie will be banned for a few more games which isn’t good for Newcastle.
11 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:29
Wish we got more backup
a suppose gonzalez will be slotted in for a few matches
12 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:31
r yahs mad calling him a legend!!!!
you all winge that ashley is destroyin newcastle its them sort of tackles that destroy peoples careers and the game of football
13 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:32
well said james
Finally some sense spoken on here!
14 Rem // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:32
i bet ANDY NUFC says this sort ov thing but is the first person to say we should sack barton!!!!!!
so many ov our supports are worse than these people, you have no excuse at least he does
15 ToonKing // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:33
Good work Danny boy. too bad your gonna get suspended now…….Joey must be real happy now, he has a disciple….
16 Micky Toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:33
Look it was an accident. Players elbow, punch, head but and slap each other every week, on purpose. But the doesn’t really cause any damage unless to are on the end of a particularly vicious elbow, yet no one comes down on those guys like a ton of bricks. Yes it was nasty, but it was an accident. Move on nothing to see….
17 Rem // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:34
p.s. not supporting what he did it was foolish, but i dont think he was trying to hurt him or do this.
a young man already wound up getting more wound up and losing, you can kinda understand
but still a terbile thing
18 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:34
the lads on here shouting “gan on son” or whatever else, how old are you lot?
causing serious injury to others isnt cool boys, even if your mates try to say otherwise.
go back and watch the “tackle” (it was nothing more than a volley), and listen to the thud when he connects with his legs.
its a real shame because i’ve liked the look of him so far, but this is obviously his youth getting in the way of his footballing ability. sheer stupidity putting us under more pressure. he’ll get the book thrown at him and you’ve gotta say its deserved.
19 Bungles Pocket // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:35
Gutherie may have been frustrated but that is no excuse for that kind of behaviour.
The break can’t be that serious for him to walk from the pitch mind you - but a break is a break!
20 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:40
i can understand that he was angry, it is understandable but ther really was no excuse a proffesional shud play like a proffesional they are meant to be role models nd that is not setting an example
21 Shola Ameobi // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:43
Somebody like Gerrard or Cesc gets a three match ban, no doubt the newcastle witch hunt will land guthrie a heafty ban. Sucks becouse it means more garanteed games for our worst player this season in nicki butt.
22 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:44
mickey toon-he could have shoved him off the ball, anything else.
did you actually see the incident for yourself?
if you watch back you’ll realise he swings at him once, misses, proceeds to follow him into the corner, and makes sure he doesnt miss the second time, it was nothing short of disgusting after the embarrasment of the match.
94th minute and he decides to do that?
23 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:46
i think that if tht it is not ashley you shud be demonstrating against it shud be wise, it is not ashley tht is ruinin the club it is u lot nd wise, can i ask how many of u have children? and how wud u feel if u cud no longer take them to their favourite place because u are told tht they nd u are likely to get assaulted? now do u still feel proud tht u protested, i dont, however i am not a father im only 15 but still i am ashamed that i, not personally have driven a man out of his pride and joy his love
24 AlexW // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:47
oh danny boy i love you sooooooooooooooo
25 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:50
Well agree James
Am so ashamed at how Ashley has been treated.
Keegan has been a tosser I bet
and before you go on about all this shit i’m a mackem, welli i;m nt!
Theres two sides to every story
26 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:52
sorry james but you display your age when you claim that mike ashley is in love with our club..
27 Nick toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:54
James !!!!!
if ashley had wanted to see the match that bad, surely he cudda used a box and got some hired goons in as per. the fact he is hiding behind his kids makes him even less credible in my eyes i have only once seen his kids with him, the makings of an xfactor sob story. Their favourite place? he shudda though about that before he took the heart out of SJP KK! he has tore a hole with this and has rightly suffered for it.
Besides when did the protest become a vendetta against the mafia’s kids, i think i will hang on to my kneecaps ta
28 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:54
aww shut up man Ross
just coz we’re both 15 doesn’t mean we’re stupid.
I felt for Ashley so much when reading that speech
29 Mckenzie // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:54
Newcastle fans are a joke. They went KK to be reinstated. But i ask the question why would you want that? When this is the same KK give his support to the “THUG” Joey Barton. He also wanted the board to offer Owen a considerably improved new contract which owen does not deserve. You fans think own is going to stay at the toon? you must be kidding yourself, he is going to jump the ship and leave newcastle. Mark my words. Owen is going to leave to the on a free. Then you jokers will only realise that Mike Ashley was doing right in trying get rid of owen.
30 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:55
I 100% agree Dan13, Keegan has probably done this out of total spite even though he claims he has nothing against Ashley, Keegan is like a child, if he doesnt get what he wants he goes in a strop, he walked last time because apparently he got to attached wt a load of bollocks it was because the going got tough and he hasnt got the mental capacity to deal with it face it he’s a lunatic he needs stability not us
31 Nick toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:56
face the facts dan the speech is having it’s intended effect aye? how come he took so long to make it? how come he was partying on the other side of the world in our time of need. this man is no leader, he only leads the line to the chip shop
32 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:56
lmao
33 Stamford Toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:56
Well said James!!!
34 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:57
and ross u r probably sum radgy tramp tht is on the dole and that is why u spend ur hours on here instead of in a job that u love, unlike ashley who has done everything that the fans wanted he brought Keegan back because the fans wanted him, so because he wants to make the club financially safe does tht make him a bad man
35 Born Again Geordie // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:57
I can understand the lads frustration - but you can not condone this behaviour.
Lets face it - if it had happened to one of our players we would have been up in arms and calling for the offenders head !
36 ende // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:58
I feel bad for fagan, but can’t say I don’t admire the aggression coming from Guthrie. With a little discipline, that’s exactly what we need in a future dm.
Now, Guthrie, meet Cristiano. That’s where are legends are made.
37 A.L 9 // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:59
Shola, Gerrard or Cesc have not yet lashed out on someone off the ball and broken their legs so you cannot realy compare.
He’s young and lost his rag, hopefully it wont happen again but it’s not acceptable at all, Andy and co applauding him, how would you feel if it was Faygen who done the same on Danny? I doubt you wuld be saying ‘go on Faygen son’ you would be calling for his head.
38 Nick toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:59
I agree Keegan is stroppy but ashley claims he wants to follow the arsenal model, i am pretty sure arsene wenger has final say on signings and makes sure what he is buying is of quality.
As for Ashley’s arguement that one man can’t do worldwide scouting i agree 100% but the man got it wrong signing players behind keegan back
if this is not so
tell me why keegan left?
39 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:00
james-nice try big lad but im 21 at university and having plenty of fun cheers, haha.
Dont think you’ll find i spend hours on here, only at work. but i’m not arguing with a 15 year old via the internet anyway!
if you want to beleive ashley loved the club thats fine!
40 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:01
A.l9 well said because it is true this article wud be completely different
41 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:01
i’m suprised
most people are chaver tramps these days
42 neeraj // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:02
i wish shola had done that…….
proves he is totally useless i this deptt. too
43 James!!!!! // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:03
well my mistake, unlike the rest of you’s i am able to own up to my mistakes, jus like the mistake i made when i protested against ashley.
44 Nicktoon // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:05
Dan and james why did keegan leave tell me the only explanation i can find which is viable is players were brought in behing his back
45 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:06
well said
46 Legs // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:07
Aye, It was wrong of Guthrie.
Before that incident happened I had that fagen guy picked out as an idiot. He had his fair share of dodgy tackles in that game.
That doesn’t justify it like. Just stating that he seems like a mug.
47 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:08
james-i dont disagree that ashley may have had his best intentions for the club upon his purchase, and maybe even still now, but lets be honest, he handled some situations terribly.
and it was the fact that we’d have to wait 5 or 6 days until we heard something official from the club that got everyone so frustrated.
The past few statements he’s made have either been contradictary or lies, and the most recent was nothing more than a guilt trip!
i read it and immediatly felt sorry, so did you evidently. but sit back and you’ll realise thats exactly what he wanted!
it was a case of 1 step forward 2 steps back with ashley at the helm, sorry mate.
48 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:10
wouldn’t mind DIC in charge
49 AndyNUFC // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:13
Rem // Sep 15, 2008 at 16:32
i bet ANDY NUFC says this sort ov thing but is the first person to say we should sack barton!!!!!!
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Nah actually I back Barton 100%.
I was actually joking about the Guthrie being a legend thing, breaking somebody’s leg isn’t a good thing at all, however, in all fairness, if it had to be any Hull player i’m glad it was Fagan lol.
50 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:14
Ross
What Uni do you go to mate?
51 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:15
spyro-Dundee, but the family are in Edinburgh these days so i’m there over the summer.
52 Nicktoon // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:15
Ashley wanted this club to be run on ‘the arsenal’ model, i am pretty sure Arsene Wenger has the final say on who comes in.
Ashley also says we need an extensive scouting network as one man can’t do the job i 100% agree BUT this was not the case at toon obviously we have people taking liberties at the top and bringing in players we do not want or need.
Ashley’s credibility is soured agains when he is using his kids to get to us, i mean wtf? if he wanted to see us so bad surely he could of used a directors box? and gotten some hired goons as per. He is despicable the speech itself is so patronising X factor sob story or what. I don’t get what he is doing with us. The ’speech’ should of been made sooner he should have communicated clearly with us, if he has been listening to us, tell us you have been Mike. added to the fact that when keegan left He was partying on the other side of the world when we need reassurance most, This man could only lead the queue to the chippy.
Oh and if he does support us and if SJP is his favourite place, then why has he confused our season tickets? ripped the heart out of toon by sacking or allowing kk to leave? allowing us once again to be the laughing stock of the already biased media? T’is the snowball effect his naivity has triggered it.
53 Who is Derek Llambias? // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:15
post #16
Ben Thatcher?
had the book and then some throwen at him
54 Ed Dub // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:15
It was rash and he had a rush of blood to the head.
Now he has to take the consequences of that.
I would expect a ban like Ben Thatcher got. 8 game ban with a further 15 games suspended.
To be honest he deserves it, no excuse for deliberately injuring anyone.
We are running short on midfielders now. Will we move N’Zogbi/Geremi into centre mid or start playing Smith there?
Oh the pain of it all!!
55 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:15
dan13- ur disgusted with the way ashley has been treated?? wat a little hypocrite u r u fool, u were on here when keegan first went sayin u were deffo joinin the march and protest, u were gonna make a banner and you were gonna phone into legends to get the word about, now your disgusted, wats wrong did ,mike ashleys sob story get to you you poor little boy
56 Who is Derek Llambias? // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:16
what goes around comes around, eh Fagan!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVK3mszm7I
57 Ed Dub // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:16
Oh and Ed!
Your RSS Feed is broken!!
58 Nicktoon // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:19
Nick 69 i totally agree with this sobstory business what a load of tripe hiding behing his ego, his belly, his goons and worst of all his kids
59 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:19
shut the f*ck up Nick
I’ll admit it
Mike has changed my mind…
but having a good think bout it
i really like whats he’s put in place…
you’s are the pillics who are driving this man with good intentions out
60 Who is Derek Llambias? // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVK3mszm7I
it would seem that what goes around comes around Mr Fagan.
61 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:20
Ross
Oh ok then, i too am a 21 year old student. It is amazing how much free time you have whilst at uni isn’t it? just shows how much reading we SHOULD be doing eh
Nick 69
calm down lad, getting a bit emotional.
62 Nicktoon // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:21
you really like what he has put in place? he should of realised when keegan joined how much we worshipped him, the media machine keeps spinning. he has made us a joke an absolute joke we were fine before he let keegan go
63 toooooonfan // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:25
HOW LONG IS GUTIERREZ OUT FOR
64 Marty // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:25
It was a disgraceful tackle really,a great player though and shouldn`t let his temper get the better of him,Wait a few mins n lose the rag in the dressing room like Shay-better to injure Shola
65 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:27
James .. wish there were more like you …….. i think keegan chucked a strop and it is going to cost us dearly. ..
66 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:29
i hope ashley gets the club sold quick,so we can all get back to some normality,dan im surpriced you fell for ashleys sob story..
67 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:30
Hitman .. ye never replied to me .. what wud ye do if Keegan had got Beckham (cockney) Lampard (cockney) and Henry (frog) …… i mean they arent geordies .. so you would presumably boycott the matches and want Kev ooot right ?
68 Macas // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:32
So what exactly has Mike Ashley put in place? We haven’t got any bloody players! And he is £1million up from the transfer window, yeah he’s definitely got something in place there, but not to benefit the club!
69 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:32
toonpipes,keegan was never going for these players.
70 toooooonfan // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:35
macas to be fair he was trying to bring in some players right up until the deadline
maybe we should have judged him better in january
71 Macas // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:36
Who says he was trying to bring in players? I haven’t heard of any players we missed out on
72 DC Magpie // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:37
my highlight of the match
at least someone showed some passion
Fagan was mouthing off and trying to show-boat
well done Danny boy just hope he inspires some of the other worthless clowns we employ.
good game from Charlie boy as well, when will managers learn? he is NOT a LB but he IS one hell of a left winger!
73 Frankiboy // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:37
The club should make a public apology to Hull City and be seen to be doing the right thing for once with a severe “in house” punishment for Guthrie.
Do we want another Joey Thug Barton and all that goes with it.
74 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:39
i’m sick of hearing bout Keegan like.
Yes I went in all guns blazing when he first went, now i’ve calmed and have thought it through.
The man is a quitter!
Yes he has good principles but he you know….
I’ve completely changed my views on Mike Ashley and sincerley think it would be a big mistake if we got shot of him.
75 Toon_Ksk // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:39
You can say that Guthrie intentionally kicked Fagan, but you can’t say that he intentionally tried to break Fagan’s leg. This is the exact opposite of Roy Keane’s tackle on Haaland.
Guthrie got a straight red and will serve a 3-match ban because of this and I hope the FA see some sense and not over-react by punishing Guthrie for more than he deserves.
76 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:41
Aye but the principal is the same .. what would ye do if he bought someone that wasnt a geordie …. you would have to boycott reet ?
77 Ashton // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:41
What an ugly c*nt !
78 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:42
Hitman .. stop ignoring me .. come on ..
79 ian // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:43
how can you say keegan was prob being a twat. hes told hes in complete control and wise said it in all then next thing there buyin players for him its not right your not true supporters! ashley will not sell i cant see it happening i think he has just said that so the fans dont give him any more abuse if he really wanted to sell hed bring keegan back wouldnt he. if what hes saying is true that he listened to what we had to say on sat then why is king kev not back? anyone not agree?? all he has to do is sack wise and lambias bring keegan or a top manager in let him take complete control of the team and will be forgotten about but no he doesnt want to sack his mates hes not got a f*****g clue
80 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:43
oh yeah im really emotional sypro, just pathetic how sumone changes there mind so easily, proves how weak he is as a person.
dan13- yes we are driving him out, you were helping us last week u muppet so i guess your a pillock then
81 toooooonfan // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:45
TOONPIPES
ARE YOU DESPERATE OR WHAT?
82 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:45
Nick69 .. how man, heres another one driving the cockney oot .. wat wud ye do if we had signed Lampard and Beckham .. couple of cockneys … you would have to boycott right ?
83 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:45
DC
N’zogbia has been one of our best and most hardworking players so far this pre-season/season. I have been thoroughly impressed with him.
Against the Hammers we need to revert back to ur 4-4-2.
————————-Given————————-
Beye———-Taylor———Coloc———Basso
—————–Butt————Nacho—————
Geremi—————————————–Zoggy
——————Owen———-Xisco—————-
Would be ok for starters. Not to mention Martins and Duff could be available again by the weekend.
84 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:46
It’s ironic that of all the players bought over the summer, Guthrie was probably the one player Keegan picked out, a headless chicken in midfield completely out of his depth.
85 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:46
dan13- keegan aint the only quiter is he, you obviously are aswell, you were givin it all the biggin at first, then u were sick of it and cudnt be bothered with it, that my friend is quitting!!!!!
86 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:47
toonpipes what are you going on aboot,i dont care if a player comes from london and gives us 110%,but its these people who come up here and try to take us for mugs like ashley and wise,these are the cockneys that have us geordie pissed off,theres a big difrence.
87 toooooonfan // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:47
IS IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE SQUAD WAS UP FOR SALE?
88 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:50
Nick
If you’ve read what I said
I’ve been thinking
and theres always two sides of the stroy.
Yes I may seem a hypocrite but i genuinely think Mike’s intentions are good.
I hate how fans like you see Keegan as some sort of angel, grow up and stop licking his arse you prick
89 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:50
tooooooonfan .. desperate to get some f ucking sense out of half of you lot … desperate for someone to prove that my fellow geordies arent narrowminded and insular people .. so yes mate i am …. are you able to make me feel better .. sadly i fear not ..
90 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:50
oops i meant story
91 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:51
toonpipes- well i never boycotted on saturday so why would i boycott if we signed those??
face it you ashley lovers lost, we won he’s selling up, simple as, now get over it cos its too late.
i mean if all you lot think so highly of ashley and wat he’s done then why dont you organise you own protest or whatever to get him to stay, but saying that 5 or 6 people wouldnt really say much would it.
92 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:52
dan13- well actually, if you read properly you fool you would know that i have said several times i don’t want keegan back as manager, i want someone new altogether along with new owners, so i think its you that is the prick
93 fraser 2k8 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:56
toonpipes no. 67
Keegan didnt want to buy those players it was shit-stirring by the club.
94 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:57
nik69, im not an ”ashley lover” .. i have stated on the blog today, that i hold both MA+KK responsbible .. so what are you on about? . .
95 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:57
wey heyyyyy me and nick actually agree on wanting someone else!
96 TOONPIPES // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:58
Fraser .. f ucking h ell .. its the concept .. what would all the anti-non geordie brigade do if we singed non-geordies - you would have to boycott right ?…c hrist this is hard work ..
97 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 17:59
Being stubborn doesn’t really make you a strong person Nick. I am not saying you’re stubborn, but what i am saying is Dan13 has clearly seen/read something that has affected his outlook on the situation. Surely it takes a strong person to admit to it when you are/were wrong (he obviously feels he was). IMO the weaker person would have shut it all out and continued in the same fashion.
98 fraser 2k8 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:01
m8 ia int trying to make an arguement i’m just stating something i aint personally having a go at you.
99 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:01
thanks spyro
yes I understand the opinions of people who dislike him
but i also still believe he would do well in the long run.
His speech really touched me
100 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:03
Guthrie didn’t mean to break the lads leg, he went in to hoof the ball away, frustrated, but missed & hoofed the lad.
It’s a slight fracture.
But we could do without it like.
Hard luck Danny, keep your cool son.
That’ll learn him.
101 wolfhound // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:03
I’d rather he did the tackle on ameobi……….hie…yahhh. take that ya big duckle
102 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:04
I personally feel MA was advised to make his statement. However, i do feel he is being genuine in his statement and it has probably just been tweaked a bit by the PR guys.
103 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:04
im not having a pop here,but nick had a good idea,why dont all the pro ashley brigade get together and have a protest at the next home game,make your feeling knowen,you have that right,just like the anti ashley brigade have.
104 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:06
Shot Bru
Have to disagree with you about Guthrie. I think he is a class young player myself. I also think he and Barton are the future of our central midfield area.
105 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:06
thats not such a bad idea
I really just want to contact him and say how much i appreciate what he’s done/doing
106 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:07
No need Hitman, the majority have spoken.
107 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:07
spyro- im not stubborn, i just stand up for what i believe in, and a little speech like MA’s(which was clearly designed to make people feel sorry for him) will certainly not change what i believe.
it could also show that dan13 is easily manipulated by a speech which was designed to do exactly what it has done to dan13 and get him feeling sorry for ashley
108 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:08
I don’t think thats true
I think its genuine
109 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:10
Nick 69
Read my comment properly, i made sure to highlight the fact that i wasn’t calling you stubborn.
110 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:11
at the end of the day, im not, and have never said that ashley hasnt done some good for the club, but he made too many mistakes and sided with the wrong people at the wrong time and it has now become unforgiveable and he is no longer welcome in newcaslte. his mistakes very much outweigh the good things he done when he first took over and he has to go, simple.
111 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:12
I think mistakes like the kev one are far less than the club being in the position as Leeds.
Which we would have been in without Mike
112 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:17
dan we where never going to do a leeds,the debt ashley moaned aboot was the morgage for the ground,plus ashley told us all that he cleared the debt,and now hes telling us the the club still has a lot of debt..
113 Dan13 // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:18
mmmmm
114 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:20
Hitman
Do you really believe what that scum bag Freddy Shepherd says? Of course that thieving low life is going to try his best to make MA look bad, he banned him from the ground and showed everyone just how poorly he was running the club remember?
115 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:20
Doubt anyone feels sorry for MA.
But i do feel sorry for the team like.
116 beyethegreat // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:22
personally i think keegan had every right to quit yes ma did and still does have good iintentions but his intentions were misguided he promised keegan he wouldd have final say on players not only that but they werent even tellling him who they were signing there was no communication and they were doing things behind his back which also includes selling which makes it very difficult for the manager afterall curbs quit for the same reason and he is not someone who just walks away from things
117 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:22
Spyro
I think Guthrie is ok, a bit like Scott Parker, takes one too many touches on the ball, which slows the play down too much. What does Barton bring to the team? I haven’t seen that much of him.
118 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:24
Shot Bru
Barton on form is a very useful player imo
119 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:25
Well we’re gonna get a lot more english coaches quitting & therefore a lot more overseas coaches taking their jobs.
Rich owners don’t want the ‘old way’ of managers, it’s passe & they’re gonna protect their investment.
Period.
120 reillers // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:27
A wee bit longer suspension I’d say. Twas an accident all right but it’s still awful. Poor Fagan, best of luck to the lad.
121 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:27
100% agree Clint
122 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:28
Clint Flick
This is our big problem now, the morale of the players, losing at home to Hull is a big wake up call. We could be down by january if things don’t improve dramatically. Personally i reckon the transfer window has played a huge part in our current turmoil. the two transfer windows should be scrapped
123 Toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:33
Spyro…beye out for six weeks i think
124 beyethegreat // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:34
alsoma deserves some credit for coming out with a statement as quick as he did and now it means the club and fans can get on with the season
125 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:39
Thanx Spyro, it’s true isn’t it?
Shot bru!
Yea, transfer windows should go & i’d go further & scrap buying players altogether, contensious i know, but it’s out of date too.
We just need a new coach, fast, to stop any further rot.
Hopefully, there’ll be no more girlcotts & the Lads get some proper Geordie SUPPORT, as from the next match.
126 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:40
Toon
Are you serious?! Wow we are really down to our bare bones aren’t we.
127 DC Magpie // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:46
Shot Bru - u crazy! Guthrie = a headless chicken out of his depth, err wha!? The man is heads and shoulders above Butt in talent. He still has plenty to learn but even as a right winger he is miles above Milner (12M). Very clever pick-up for 1M!
Spyro - I don’t think we have much of a choice
Although I am looking forward to seeing Nacho get a whole game, and i’ll be looking at Xisco closely, I always fear with Butt in the starting line-up, he has become a total liability!
Bring back Barton!
128 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:47
We could do without Beye being out for 6weeks too, downer.
Guess Bassong gets a shot now then?
129 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:49
Clint
Definitely, we have to get behind the team for every game. I reckon the long periods of silence during games has such a negative effect on our players while inspiring the opposition.
130 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:49
clint,agree we need a manager in and quick,but will ashley appoint a manager with him trying to sell the club,he might just leave it to the new owner,but how long is it going to take for a new owner to come in..this is a big worry
131 Lew Davies // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:49
Guys - I think a lot of us agree that KK was a twat for just walking.
There were many things he could have done from within the club. For a start he could have made wise look stupid, by not playing the players he brought in, and telling the press why.
He could have given alot more press statements etc.
Whats the worst that would happen? he would have got the sack, but at least he would have been a hero still.
But NO, he proved yet again that he hasn’t got the bottle or the stomache for a fight. He is a quitter, and I resent him for that.
By just walking out in a tantrum, he has brought this club to its knees yet again. And I for one dont want him anywhere near this club ever again.
This message from Ashley is a pile of shyte too.
No way was he threatened nor his family. Bollix.
Its been obvious he has wanted out for long enough. He’s skint!
He may well have been well intentioned at the start, but lost the plot long ago.
He says he has listened, but clearly he hasn’t heard what we were saying.
The man’s a fool and a liar and a whimp, and the sooner he sells up(at a profit of course!) the better.
All this crap about cockney etc is a total joke. why would an arab buy us incase we come out with banners slagging off the arab mafia, or the chinese mafia or the american mafia…etc etc
Some people want to grow up big style.
The press pick up on this shit and just love it.
Stop giving them the ammo to shoot us with, please.
132 Lew Davies // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:53
Oh plus Guthrie is a fool, but never intentioned to fracture Faggots leg.
No doubt he/we will be well punished again by the FA.
Just more bad news, but headline making tomorrow for the press
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
133 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:53
shot bru, every single minute of every game brother.
hitman,
It’s a tough call man. Do we let MA get someone in? Or wait?
It is a crucial time right now.
I think………………….bollox, i dunno.
But we NEED someone, someone that really wants to do it.
134 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:54
Lew
You put forward some very good points there, and i agree with you for the most part.
135 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:54
there’s just been some business experts on the box saying how they believe its a load if pish that possible investors would be put of buying the toon, because of recent events, they went on to say if anything it should increase the interest as now they believe ashley’s hand has been weakened and he should sell for less, however take the word should into account, if he holds out for a stupid price this could drag on and on
136 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:55
DC Magpie
If Guthrie was that much of a talent liverpool wouldn’t have let him go. If you wanna build your midfield around the likes of Guthrie and Barton, we’re gonna be mid table at best.
137 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:56
If you had the kind of anger shown against you as owner of anything, you would worry about taking your kids there & if you had security working for you, they would advise you not to put your kids in that situation.
138 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:57
alreet mozza,this cannit drag on it needs sorting very quick,are the toon are in the soup
139 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 18:57
I think we will bring in a new manager. It could take weeks, months or even years for this club to be sold to the “right” people, and i cant see Hughton staying in control for that long, especially after his poor display on Saurday.
- FATIH TERIM PLEASE -
140 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:00
Shot Bru
I personally disagree with you there. We have two fully committed CM’s who aren’t afraid to get stuck in, and can also pick a great pass.
141 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:01
alreet hitman, your’e right and the worry is we could get dragged into a worse version of last yers relegation battle if it does’nt get sorted, we need a quick takeover in all honesty, but i’m not so sure thats gona happen
142 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:02
It was never gonna be easy on sat though, was it?
Can’t blame Hughton too much for that.
The team was rattled by recent events.
that’s why we gotta show them proper support from now on.
Suck the baall into the NET.
143 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:04
hughton,proved on saturday he was oot his depth,i have no doubt hes a good coach,we need someone in and quick.
144 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:05
cant see ashley appointing a new manager as he would need a good contract and i imagine want some sort of stability and would a new manager take over a club knowing its owner does want to sell it, leaving him with the knowledge that he will at some point have to work for an owner he knows jack s**t about
145 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:06
Aye hitman
am just trying to give the lad a break, it must be tough for the lot of them?
Next coach please.
146 DC Magpie // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:06
“If Guthrie was that much of a talent liverpool wouldn’t have let him go.” I prefer to make my own assessment. Liverpool don’t exactly have the best record of scouting talent! I would quite happily but a healthy wager on Guthrie turning out to be a far better player than Milner as well as Lucas.
“Build a team around Barton and Guthrie.” No, but with the current crop of players we have at our disposal, those two are clearly two of the most talented.
147 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:06
i think a midfield with barton and guthrie in the centre would be a pretty strong partnership
shot bru- how can you say barton and guthrie would be a mid table midfields when you have just admited to having not seen much of barton and therefore you could not possibly judge him fairly. imo danny guthrie will be a top midfielder in a couple of yrs
148 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:08
Rock & a hard place.
It could take yonks to sell the club.
they’ll have to see how it looks, if it’s gonna take time, they’ll have to take the plunge & get someone in.
149 Spyro // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:12
Nick 69
At least we agree on this
DC
I personally can’t see Guthrie being better than Lucas. I can see Lucas becoming world class in the next few years. So much potential.
150 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:12
Fact is Guthrie was still a bargain.
liverpool just seem to want names.
All clubs let perfectly good players go after coming through their academies.
Even when they know they’re good. i.e. bentley at the arse. Andy Cole couldn’t get a job for bristol once.
151 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:12
Spyro
We need more than players just getting stuck in, we need players that have the ability to be calm under pressure that read the game well while linking the play from back to front. Ain’t footbll great, we can watch the same game and players week in week out and everyone will have their own opinion lol
152 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:12
hitman any names pal?
153 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:13
Why did everyone keep letting Pedro go?
We didn’t see the potential in Shearer ffs.
154 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:15
van gaal for me,i wanted him in when sir bob got the chop
155 keeeguuurn // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:16
If someone had done this to one of our players I wouldn’t be happy.
He was frustrated and did not mean to break his leg but it was immature and could be costly to the team.
Barton’s anger management guy or shrink could work full time in our changing room at the moment.
If shay can go off it then something is up and we need someone in control quickly to get the guys through this.
Not the best quality, but here’s the incident.
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hxCPlrfmg
156 Shot Bru! // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:18
DC
Gerrard, Carragher, Fowler and Mcmanaman.
Nick
It was tongue in cheek comment, because Barton has either been banged up suspended or injured since arriving from Man city
157 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:18
Terim could be good.
But i think overseas is prob the way to go, english/british coaches aren’t with the program & will bleat if/when things don’t go for them, they’ll use all this as an excuse.
Overseas coaches will understand the current set up & even expect it.
158 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:19
Oooo yea,
Van Gaal, top choice.
159 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:21
good choice hitman, hiddinks my favourite
160 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:22
Hiddink won’t leave russia though, will he?
He would be well good though.
161 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:23
Ok, someone dutch then, but not you know who.
162 bowburnmag // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:24
Lew Davies - the fact that Keegan chose not to play games and undermine the board out of spite and intentionally indirectly affect matters on the pitch are the main reason I admire the bloke. Yes, walking has had it’s own cataclysmic consequences but personally he’s more dignified doing it this way in my eyes. He recognised the battle for what it was. Lost before it began against the ‘jobs-for-the-boys’ brigade. No point in delaying the inevitable.
163 NotAGhostToon // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:27
Guthrie’s jjust inexperienced.
hey lads could u read this for music reviews just set it up. http://mjsmusicalmuse.blogspot.com/ cheers
164 bowburnmag // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:28
I see Guthrie has done exactly what most of us expected and hoped he would do. He wants to apologise and I would imagine is genuinely upset by it. Breaking someone’s leg is no fun at all if you don’t intend it. It can really effect your game. Hope he can bounce back after his suspension. Also hope Fagan makes a speedy recovery. He seems very cocky but you wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
165 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:33
clint i dont think he’d come but i’d love him to, i see it like that bowburn, i felt embarassed watching his interviews on the box where he did’nt know what was going on at the club, he was left with no other choice imo and i don’t blame him one bit for it, the final week with the milner debacle and other speculated problems behind the scenes, left him with little other choice, he had to maintain some dignity
166 Lew Davies // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:40
Well said bowburnMag, I agree with your comments about Guthrie, also I hear you about KK, but I just feel that was the easier option. IMO anyway.
But none of us know what was really going thru’ his mind and probably never will.
In all honesty I cant wait till we can get away from all this and get back to arguing about matters on the pitch.
Spyro - I’m with you about Fatih Terim for the Toon. But I’m no expert, !!!!(no ,really!)lol
167 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:42
mozza
with you mate.
Hiddink would be soooo cool, i’d love him to coach us.
Well at least we got top dollar for milner, way more than i thought we’d get, way more than i would have paid, they were robbed.
I just wish KK had tried to sort it out ‘in house’ for a bit longer. Don’t think he’ll be back, do you?
168 mozza // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:46
no clint, but with this club you never know lol reet lads am of bairn wants the comp for a bit and am of to me pit early tonight, see yas all later
169 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:48
Lothar Matthaus is the man for Newcastle,he did miracles with my favorite local team which is also Black and White(Partizan Belgrade).
Sorry to say this,but the biggest dilema i had in my life was when they played Newcastle in 2003 in that memorable penalty shoot out.
170 Leo // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:50
i cannot tolerate what he did, guthrie is my favourite player and im a bit gutted that he lost his head, he is young and will learn, it is not like him to do what he did
everyone is prone to it though, gerrard fabregas eboue etc, so lets not get too carried away.
the break noise was like two shin pads clashing together but i never thought it was his leg cracking, gutted because i hear good things about fagan as a person.
171 Broontoon // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:51
Right. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion and also that you, Ed, have to make a living but…
The combination of comments in this string supporting Danny Guthrie and the range of irritating and inappropriate advertising on the site mean that I’m off. No more visits from me. I’m done.
172 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:56
Aye Lol.
see ya mozza
173 Steeley // Sep 15, 2008 at 19:57
Totally agree with Phil Brown. Guthrie needs punished for that horrific tackle! If it had happened to one of our players, we would have been gunning for the offender now!!
It will teach Guthrie a very important lesson about behaviour on the pitch.
Lets not let him get away with it, so that another Bowyer ends up in our team!!
174 CLINT FLICK // Sep 15, 2008 at 20:02
phil browns a mackem.
Guthrie was wrong, it was a totally stupid tackle, but i don’t think he meant to hurt the lad. He miss timed his swipe at the ball.
But anyway, he will be punished, as sure as god made little green apples. This is NUFC, so he’ll get a big ban. Nailed on.
175 pak-toon // Sep 15, 2008 at 20:09
bowburnmag - link?? apologized when?
176 bowburnmag // Sep 15, 2008 at 20:56
pak-toon - just the reports I was reading from newsnow. Looks like there are more links now but I’m guessing you’ve seen them.
177 spunki munki // Sep 15, 2008 at 21:34
i dont want kk back as manager now but i do think he will be here and i know once he is i will b happy cos he plays good football. just brings too much baggage
178 spunki munki // Sep 15, 2008 at 21:37
and guthrie should get a further 3 match ban cos that was a dsgrace, totally uncalled for. i like the gay and glad hes apologised bt at the end of the day it was his second attempt to hack him. everyone wanted the dude who broke eduardos leg banned and that was an accident
179 spunki munki // Sep 15, 2008 at 21:38
never ment gay ment lad, got confused typing glad n lad next to each other somehow lol
180 Hugh Jorgan // Sep 15, 2008 at 21:41
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Tottenham NIL
Villa Two
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
181 ERIC CRAMMY MAG // Sep 15, 2008 at 22:18
if keegan really loved the toon surley he would not of fuc*ed off again ,this time he really has left us in the shit god only knows where this mess will end up .
182 D.C. // Sep 15, 2008 at 22:49
Guthrie should at least get six matches for his absolute thuggery. He lashed at Fagan the first time and missed, and made sure he wasn’t going to the second time. Guthrie absolutely meant to hurt him.
183 scott9 // Sep 15, 2008 at 22:55
it was a disgusting tackle is was at the game in the hull city end and it was disgusting he went for him twice i am really angry as hull are my home town club n fagen had such a great start to the season
184 I Made 1000 // Sep 15, 2008 at 22:58
it was a horrible challege and does deserve a ban, but where a we going to get out back up from, we aint got no1 to come in really
185 hitman // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:04
Absolutely ridiculous,” Shepherd said. “The only reason he had to pay a large portion of the debt was the cost of the stadium. But if you look at today’s prices, it was a great deal to build and expand St James’ Park when we did. What he didn’t realise was that he had to pay off the mortgage. There was a clause in the contract that if the Halls ever lost control, around £57million had to be repaid straight away.” …….
make your own minds up
186 tom tomb // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:24
He got up quick after the tackle , then Bassong shoved him and you could see he was in pain when he went backwards.
I had a hairline fracture once that kept me out 6 weeks, hurt like hell and this maybe what he has suffered. As you can more or less walk away after the incident, unlike a proper break. Shocking tackle just wish the ass ref had flagged him for trying to take him out seconds before. Would have saved two players from long term absence.
187 IrishMan // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:24
Horrendous tackle. I can’t understand how some people on here can condone it - what planet are ye living on?
188 Nick 69 // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:32
anyone else keep gettin sent to the mobile version of the site when they type it into the address bar?
189 IrishMan // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:36
Ed, I have to agree with Broontoon about the quality of the advertising on the site. Some of the banners proclaiming that you have won a prize because you are the 5786546809*****7768th visitor on the site are extremely irritating.
190 micknufc // Sep 15, 2008 at 23:47
who else is sick as f£$k of the whole thing?
where do we go from here man!
191 brutooooon // Sep 16, 2008 at 0:31
Fagan waste some time at the corner flag…
Guthrie waste fagan’s time at the football pitch (until 3 mths?)
192 Dave // Sep 16, 2008 at 0:38
If this is what the club is coming to we might as well pack in now. The tackle was a disgrace, regardless of who did it and what team they belong to and hopefully the FA will take the appropriate action and Guthrie will learn from it. I only hope he and the club have the common sense to issue an appology as there can be no excuses.
The last thing we need at the moment is bad press as moral on the team is at rock bottom and the last thing we need is key players to be suspended which in turn will put more pressure on the rest of the team.
193 zak // Sep 16, 2008 at 1:56
guthrie made a big big big mistake….. but the real idiots are all that agree with what he did…. I wud like to see what they wud say if that happened to them…!!….
194 p // Sep 16, 2008 at 7:17
Interesting:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4761813.ece
195 keeeguuurn // Sep 16, 2008 at 7:42
tom tomb - agree
when you watch it again there is a big gap between the studs up challenge and the kicking.
The Ref should have stopped it.
196 Ericles // Sep 16, 2008 at 9:02
No excuse for the Guthrie tackle. Neither is there any excuse for the over the top press response either. What sort of “broken leg”? Fagan carried on playing and even Hull staff said they thought it was initially bad bruising. So, the media are now expert traumatologists are they? I bet this “broke