Newcastle In Death Spiral – Can Somebody Save Us?


There’s no doubt Newcastle United Football Club right now are in a terrible mess.

Mike Ashley has completely messed up in last couple of weeks

And for the mess to be as bad as it is, the people in charge of the club have had to be completely incompetent, and unfortunately that’s just exactly what they’ve been, especially over the last few weeks.

How Derek Llambias could be given the Managing Director job with absolutely no football management experience at all, is beyond us, and his personality seems to have been a complete clash with the only person who was doing anything positive at the club – Kevin Keegan.

But in truth even Kevin isn’t blameless in all of this. That’s because his exit has left Newcastle without a rudder, and however things were, he could have agreed to stay – just for the good of the team.

We know that’s a very unpopular thing to say, because we know Kevin is great for this club, but we aren’t the only fans who have thought this over the last couple of weeks.

Chris Mort did a good job with no football experience because, first of all, he’s a good man, easy to get on with, extremely bright, and an excellent business brain who put the fans first, plus his heart was always in the right place.

Not so with Llambias, and since he took over the club has stopped communicating with its fans.

Of course, when push came to shove and Ashley had to choose between Llambias and Keegan, he obviously sided with his old business buddy and so Kevin was out. It does look, on the positive side, like Mike made a belated attempt to get Kevin back a week last Friday, but it was just too late, and the club entered a death spiral.

Not only is the team now plummeting towards relegation but some of our players are so fed up and unsettled at the complete mess and zero communication, that quite a few of them will be heading for the exit come January.

Mike Ashley is now trying to get as much as he can for the club he has crippled, and which he bought, by his own admission, to have some fun with.

The club is locked in a catch 22 situation. We will not improve until we get a new manager in, and we’ll not get a new manager in until the club is sold, and as the team continues to pile up defeats, the price of the club will hardly increase, and so Ashley will find it harder and harder to sell the club for the price he wants.

One person who could come in now and steady the ship is Kevin Keegan, who is now on holiday in Spain – but for the good of the club we’d hope he would come back and get the team together and keep us afloat until a new buyer is found.

But that possibility seems extremely remote if not impossible, and it’s hard to see how that would happen unless Ashley and Llambias all promised to stay away and let Kevin get on with it – until a buyer was found.

Yes – it’s probably totally unreasonable – but make absolutely no mistake about it – the club is now in serious serious trouble.

To finish this piece on a positive note, we’ll just have to hope we can get a buyer in, who will rescue the club, long before this already bad situation gets any worse.



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257 comments so far

  • geordie taipei

    Sep 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #1

    The words Creek and paddle spring to mind.

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  • kajman

    Sep 21, 2008 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #2

    well it just goes from bad to worse…nobody is going to save us…MA and is cronies will never come to newcastle again they will do all the business fron london.. this is a shit situation for the club

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  • RobB

    Sep 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #3

    It’s interesting that our main rival for the bottom slot is Spurs – the management model for Mr Ashley. And I see Ramos may be on his way out – or is it Comoli?

    If Keith Harris really is involved in the sale, perhaps he’ll knock some sense into Ashley, before it is too late, and persuade him to drop the price.

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  • beyethegreat

    Sep 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #4

    the words us and shitter spring to mind

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  • Hadrian

    Sep 21, 2008 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #5

    mike has proved he puts his friendship before this club .
    all it would have taken is to remove his mates and put people with experience in the jobs .
    kevin isnt completly blameless , BUT ive never known keegan tobe happy to put his name to mediocrity .

    the final straw was keegan putting his reputation on the lines to supporters on behalf of the board , wehn they didnt come thru in the tranfer window , that was it .

    this has always been about the money to mike , he’s lost more gambling that he’s actually paid for this club, never mind what he’s invested in it .

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  • t00nL00ney27

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #6

    Guys,

    As I have said on a previous post on an earlier article, my understanding is that Mike Ashley has already SOLD the club. I am not winding anyone up, I have an extremely good source. I dont know who the buyers are, but they are currently carrying out due diligence on the club which is expected to take around 4 weeks. Therefore I doubt there will be any new manager until the new owners are in place.

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  • howway geordies

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #7

    There is really only one person who can save the club – Mike Ashley………by selling up for a realistic price. Him and his cronies are like a ball and chain and with them attached we will continue to sink.

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  • keeeguuurn

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #8

    geordie taipei – we don’t even have a canoe

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  • RobB

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #9

    http://www.spurspies.tv/2008/01/is_damien_comolli_actively_try.html

    It was funny to read this article from ‘spurs spies’ – ‘Is Damien Comolli actively trying to ruin Spurs?’ It could have been written about any of Mr Ashley’s cronies.

    It was published on January 15th – prophetic or what? A pity Mr Ashley didn’t read it before putting in place this disastrous management structure that has failed our club so badly.

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  • Ganiyu

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #10

    Ed u keep saying Newcastle would sink into da relegation zone if this or that but i tell u that even without a manager the squad is able to finish a top half when team spirit comes in.this season is only da begining of good things

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  • toooooonfan

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #11

    toonlooney
    who is your “source”
    what does “due dilligence” mean

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  • alex

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #12

    bring wor Bobby back for a short term and he will say yes

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  • listie

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #13

    t00nL00ney27 – as much as we would like to believe you without anything more concrete, you could be a Sunderland or Spuds supporter !!

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  • cause I got the girth

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #14

    up beat blog there Ed….many thanks, made me feel much better!

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  • beyethegreat

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #15

    alex sir booy has more important things to worry about

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  • UTD111

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #16

    Ganiyu – what country do you come from? I only ask because I notice you use “da” rather than the english word “the”……..???

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  • Phil,Gosforth

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #17

    Newcastle is a sinking ship.
    KK was at the helm but all the time the ship was steered by the goons @ the back of the ship.Blame the REAL captain ffs.
    Keegan IS blameless.The fact he isn’t here is a reason we’re sinking but it’s not his FAULT.
    NO-ONE should be encouraged to work under those conditions,NO-ONE should be barracked for NOT putting up with the sh*t he was being dealt,NO true fan should want a manager utterly p*ssed off,surrounded by people who undermine him,lie to him,don’t like him and who he doesn’t like.If you have EVER liked KK for what he has done @ the toon,then how you can give him sh*t for telling lying employers where to go, I have NO idea.
    Simple as,no matter what anyone says tbfh.

    MA has done nowt to help NUFC as a football club.Paying off debt helps NUFC’s books but nothing else has been done to make us any better as a football team.That’s the bottom line.

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  • Dondatta13

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #18

    toooooonfan, I think toonlooney’s source is freddy fletcher apparently (he said it on a different thread)…..

    Due dilligence is when someone checks the books of a business (I think) …

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  • UTD111

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #19

    Toooonfan – due diligence is a standard process whereby the buyer is given the opportunity to examine the clubs finances etc and ask any questions they may wish to, before finalising the contract and purchase :o)

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #20

    I’ve noticed Ganiyu uses perfectly good English in some posts then not in others – odd person

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  • RobB

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #21

    Toonfan – I wondered this too. Checked it out on wikipedia – it seems to be a throrough investigation of the assets and financial affairs of a company before completing the purchase.

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #22

    alex-sir bobby quite sadly isnt physically fit enough to deal with the nonsense these days.

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #23

    Its a pity Mike Ashley did not use Due dilligence before he bought NUFC and then he would have had no need to whinge about the alleged debt

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  • toooooonfan

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #24

    ok thanks
    anyone believe toonlooney
    i dont

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  • UTD111

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #25

    If Toonlooney was aware of a sale, I’m sure the press hounds would have sniffed it out too!!

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  • beyethegreat

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #26

    phil gosforth

    completely agree and it shows what the board truly think of kk with llambias’ comments(that nis if it wasnt a load of journalist bull)

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  • ToonTex

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #27

    How did he eff this up? You hire Keegan. He bounces the club clear of relegation with the existing squad. He stirs interest and goodwill among the supporters. He gets us off to a flyer. 4pts from 6 with two of the leagues best clubs in that mix. All Ashley needed to do then was take the mid list players Keegan wanted and get them in to deepen the squad. Showing the fans he was spending. Keegan would have grumbled behind the scenes, but would surely wouldn’t have left.

    Sorry, but a blind man could have seen this.

    Infuriating embarrasing disgusting ridiculous.

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #28

    toooooonfan – I don’t believe anyone at the moment, because of the last couple of months, Head Boggling

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  • Steeley

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #29

    Trying to be completely positive, we are only 5 games in, and 3 points off about 8th place (i.e. 1 win) so if the club is sold and a new manager is installed quickly enough then I think the season isnt completely lost.

    I just hope that Ashley doesnt try to “get us back” by letting the club fester and then only selling when its too late for us to recover in the season. I think we would be looking at about a November deadline to have a new owner and manager in place, if only to be able to have time to reassure our current players that the club is steadied so they dont put in transfer requests!! I reckon its inevitable that Ashley will have some sort of grudge against the fans now, and that the only reason he wont let us fester is because if we are sure fire relegation candidates then he will lose too much cash!

    Anyway, here’s hoping we have a new owner sooner rather than later!!

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  • Steeley

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #30

    And by the way Ed, please please please REMOVE SOME (IF NOT ALL!) OF THE CRAPPY OPINION POLLS TO THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE….THEY ARE SO OUTDATED IT HURTS (“Would Senderos be a good buy for Newcastle at £4m?” etc etc). Are you too busy negotiating deals with your tacky and cheap sponsors to be arsed to remove them nowadays??

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  • Dondatta13

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #31

    Geordie Jayne, if fat Mike had of done due dilligenece, he would have ran away as fast as his little fat legs would carry him…..

    I dont by into this “Newcastle would have been under if Ashley didnt step in”. I think there would have been a que of people/companys willing to invest in NUFC imo …

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #32

    Steely are you my husband – He is on the same wave length as you………thinks Ashley would like us to rott and hopes he does not asset stip in Jan, Owen, Given etc.

    I hope this is not right but its an awful thought

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  • A.L 9

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #33

    I think ToonLooney is talking tripe, but I pray that he isn’t…

    Please not be talking shit Looney

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #34

    Dondatta13 I agree, you can’t be a good businessman one minute and totally forget to check the books MMMMMMMM

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  • Ganiyu

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #35

    Nufc is far too big 4 relegation.im not scared

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  • MY ASS-ley

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #36

    Hell has no fury as Mike Ashley Scorned….

    he gonna bring this club down as bad as he could.. wat does losing a few hundred million means to a billionaire…. (

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  • beyethegreat

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #37

    gainyu i disagree no club is to big to be relegated
    though i think we will stay up

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  • Matt

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #38

    This is a MASSIVE over exaggeration.

    We’re not in a death spiral, we actually played some quite good football yesterday even though we didn’t win. We need to get better delivery but that’s down to geremi and his amazingly poor set pieces/crossing of late.

    Need I point out we’re only in the relegation zone on goal difference. After 10 games if we’re still there I’ll be concerned but it’s just a blip. We still have some influential players out injured. Team selection needs to be looked at also, once Nacho is given more of a chance and we actually start Bassong instead of Edgar we’re going to play much better still.

    It’s not as bleak as everyone is making out. The club is being sold, the structure will no doubt change and we will move on. Stop peddling this depressive stance please Ed.

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  • t00nL00ney27

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #39

    Guys,

    This is the only time I have posted on this forum, although I do read it alot. I am a newcastle fan and im not winding people up. Its up to you whether you believe me, time will only tell I suppose, but it takes about 4 weeks to do the due diligence (thorough investigation of a business ie study the books etc). The club IS sold!!

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  • toonfan

    Sep 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #40

    i would just like to point out that while lots of fans are now up in arms about relegation stop for a minute and think back to everton when they were on the bottom 3 seasons ago the season before that they had champions league and they had a manager at the bottom we dont so if we can get one in we would start to climb out

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