Joe Kinnear So Upbeat, Positive And Real

Yesterday turned out to be a day off for the Newcastle players as Joe Kinnear prepared for his first training session with the lads today.

Joe Kinnear – so upbeat and positive

Hopefully we’ll get some pictures on the official site of the first training session with new interim boss Joe Kinnear. He did meet with his training staff, and no doubt talked about the players and what they will be doing this week in training.

Joe said:

“We need to start clearing the air. We can’t brush things under the carpet.” “We’ll have a minor shake-up and let people know how important it is to be really professional when we’re on the pitch.”“Because of previous results faces are on the ground. People are lacking in confidence.”

“Someone has to sit down and tell them to forget about it and get on with the game.”

“A win at Everton is the minimum requirement. To get a result, lift everyone and play as a team. I would dearly love to have the players back who are injured. Having spent a week with them this week we will be OK.”

“I can certainly educate a few of them, that is for sure. In not doing silly things and being more professional on the pitch.” “Irrespective of the gimmick and all the stuff that went with my time at Wimbledon, we were a very professional side.”

“We will go through the tape of Saturday’s defeat to Blackburn. We will explain things. We will put them right back on the training pitch demonstrate how to work as a unit.”

Notice that what clearing the air means is that Joe will talk openly with the players and get them to talk too. It’s called communication and a lack of it anywhere always causes problems. We’ve learned that through many years in the business world. You have to be positive and open, but also truthful about things, especially when things are bad. It’s no good at all pretending all is well if it isn’t.

A good demonstration of that has been given by the Newcastle Board since Derek Llambias took over – he said almost nothing during the transfer season, and fans had no idea what was going on. He even stopped Keegan from talking about transfers, so we heard absolutely nothing. Not good to say the least.

But back to honest Joe, who says he’s visited dozens of training grounds during his four years out of the game, including several visits watching the way Arsene Wenger works at Arsenal.  That can’t be bad.

Joe added:

“There are not many clubs that I have not been to while I have been out of football. I have watched Arsenal on numerous occasions.” “Everything is done on the training pitch.”“Our players have to realize they are playing for a massive club.”

“Once you put that shirt on, going back to my Tottenham days, there was not a player in that shirt who didn’t play with pride.”  “Are they moping around? No.”

“Leadership will come from experience – people like Nicky Butt, who is a wonderful lad in the dressing room, Michael Owen, Shay Given. They are all personalities. Barring those three, the rest are very quiet.”

Owen will remain club skipper under Kinnear, as we reported this morning.

We really like what we’re hearing from Joe; he’s a breath of fresh air and seems to be spot on. We are starting to like him a lot, even if he does have a tendency to swear on  TV programs.  😀

Words are cheap of course, although he knows he needs some kind of result on Sunday.   But he can rest assured that most fans will be right behind him, now that it seems he’s a real honest Joe and very down to earth.

Just imagine if Joe pulls off a win against Everton – wouldn’t that be crazy?

Comments welcome.

42 comments so far

  • IndiaMag

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #1

    Go Joe!! Atleast someone’s having a positive outlook!! hopefully we can atleast salvage a draw in everton , A win would work wonders i think!! The Comeback is on!!

  • figsdad

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #2

    good words and i hope he kicks taylor backside in the process…

  • IndiaMag

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #3

    Yeah Hopefully He’l play colo,cacapa, bassong and zog in the back line!! Thats the best back line we have at the moment i think. I would also like to see nacho start, i think he’l be a spark given the time..

  • dougnufc

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #4

    A win is not impossible if we play this line-up

    Hopefully Enrique will be back for the trip to Everton

  • Cuse

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #5

    Lads, a word of caution. Joe’s saying all the right things in the right order. He’s identifying, quite rightly, what we need to do to get back on track.

    But balancing this -regardless of Llambias’ mess, KK leaving or the many injuries we have; we should be beating teams like Spurs, West Ham, Blackburn + Hull.

    The players have got to show willing. At the minute, they look disinterested. Taylor needs to be dropped. Coloccini needs to start looking like an international defender. Duff needs to do something. Butt needs to show heart. Given needs to shut up. Xisco needs to calm down. Owen needs to lead on and off the pitch.

    Each of them has responsibility to the team and none of them are showing it.

  • Ganiyu

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #6

    Sir alex knew butt is a bolton type of player.i hate his long passes.

  • broon ale

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #7

    he is simply speaking truthisms!

    we all do the same thing on this blog (mostly anyway)

  • Porl

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #8

    How great would it be not just for us but for Joe Kinnear himself if he did a decent or even great job. Everybody laughed when he was appointed but thats perfect for Joe, it takes the pressure off a bit, he has no burden of expectation. 3 points out of the 6 games would be an overachievement on what most of the people laughing expect. He seems to genuinely have a passion for motivation and football and that can only be good for the dressing. I hope Joe does a good job gets some much needed points for us and gives the players a lift. That would be great for supporters, players, the sale of the club and Joe’s profile. Doing a good job here would put his name back out there for a mangers job in the chamiponship or league divisions.

    Good luck Joe and please carry on swearing on TV, its funny!

  • IndiaMag

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #9

    I like the idea of geremi at right back, makes sense.. Isn’t guthrie out on suspension for another 2 games?

  • dougnufc

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #10


    Its harsh to ask Shay to shut up. You need to know that we would be the one at rock bottom if it wasn’t for Shay. He did magnificent saves against Man U to get us the point and saved a penalty against Bolton in order for our team to get back to life.

  • ToonKing

    Sep 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #11

    i’m starting to like this guy…

  • Ganiyu

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #12

    Guthire plays short accurate passes which best fit with a slow tempo game.

  • bowburnmag

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #13

    Most accurate bit about this article – “Words are cheap of course”. Let’s get behind him but give credit where credit is due. What’s that saying? – when all is said and done, more is said than done. Let’s hope he shoves my cynical words right down my throat of course.

  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #14

    Good god does anyone on here know anything about football Gerimi is far to slow to play right back & Caccapa is finished as atop class defender. What is need is to give Taylor a kick up the backside he will be top class but is still only 22 he need to be given confidence as do most of the others. My team if all are fit for Saturday:


    Beye/Taylor, Collo, Bassong, Enrique

    Duff, Butt, Gerimi, Gutherie, NZogbia


  • dave

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #15

    Joe seems to be a real down to earth guy who’s desperate to get back into the game and prove his ability which was unquestionable given his achievements at Wimbledon.

    He could end up being the joker in the pack or alternatively he could be the ace in a winning hand.

    Although we may have a new interim manager to many people have forgot about the missing backroom staff which will also have an impact.

    I hope Joe does well, his intentions are good and he is a genuine guy unlike others we could name at the club.

    We need to get behind the team and the manager and start moving in the right direction.

    If Keegan is re-appointed, I’d love to see Joe stay on as his No 2 as i think they’d work well together and it would be a step in the right direction for the club

  • broon ale

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Ageordiedoonsooth taylor will never be top class no matter how hard you kick him up the backside

  • Cuse

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #17

    dougnufc – I don’t want to bring down anyone’s ire, but Given tires me. He has done for years. Great keeper mind you. I just prefer Harper’s approach to being at our club.

    As NUFC supporters, we spend our whole lives defending players like Given against their many indiscretions – yet attacking everyone else.

    Look at that German buffoon GK at Arsenal. Spoke up – shipped out. Our players speak out like that and we laud them as heroes.

    My point to Shay is this. Shut Up and get on with keeping nets. I don’t want your opinion – I want to stop losing games.

    The sooner we realise that a contributory factor to our club’s ongoing failure is the cult of personality we the fans have fostered around the likes of Keegan, Shearer and Given.

  • IndiaMag

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #18

    Yeah geremi is too slow to be an effective right back, but if we play bassong on the left or center he’s the best option we have now, till beye gets back. Taylor just keeps making mistakes only to have a cocky smirk after that! its annoying i tell ya!!!

  • Punk Skunk

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #19

    Gotta agree with you there cuse!..
    …So many players live on their past endevours!..
    …Players should definately shut their traps & get on with the job at hand, turnin’ things(results) around!..

  • stjames

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #20

    Honest Joe! I like that. 🙂

  • The GreatOne

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #21

    Forgive my ignorance lads, but what kind of football will JK have this lot play? Is he a believer of the Bolton/Stoke method or does he like his teams to play a fluent, passing game?

  • Punk Skunk

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #22


  • Lost prophet

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #23

    I reserve judgement until we win a game.
    Let’s see changes on the pitch before we start jumping on the kinnear bandwagon

  • Mark-O

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #24

    You lot are building your hopes up!!!

    Can we forget about Keegan? He’s not gonna come back a 3rd time!! We need a big name manager in after the take over some one who has a wealth of tactical knowlege and can adapt game by game. Keegan could not do that, he would be great as a link between players and a foreign coach. Shearer would do well to take up a coaching role for a few years and then have a look into management.

    I feel sorry for Joe, seems a great lad with alot of honesty, something this club has lacked for a while, but he’s in a no win situation.

    All those who are giving their ideas on line-ups, ok taylor might be having a mare, but so was owen a year ago, but because Taylor is a defender his mistakes are more costly. Stick with the lad just give him a good telling!!

    Geremi should never play for newcastle again. Cant pass, too slow, final ball never beats the first man. Give one of the young lads a chance on the wing or play wing backs with beye and n’zog. This is until the new lads get fit.

    I think we are going to struggle until January and i can see us fighting to get into the top half. Yet another season down the drain and its only 5 games in!!! But like ive said in countless feeds, ill be there week in week out supporting the boys, because a boycott is not the way forward and the discrace that was the attendance for the tottenham game has dented confidence.

  • Punk Skunk

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #25

    We must support the manager/coach from the get go!..Not wait for something to go wrong, then decide not to support him, that’s arse 1st!..


    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #26

    Lost prophet – well said!!

  • Punk Skunk

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #27

    So, we should sit quietly at matches ’til something good happens, then support?..
    …That’s the kind of atmosphere that gives the team the fear!.


    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #28

    Now Ashley Brings Back Mort!
    Tuesday, 30th September 2008

    Chris Mort was quite possibly the most bizarre chairman Newcastle United have ever had, quite simply because the fella new NOTHING about football! But … allegedly … he’s back!

    Apparently Mort is one of the key deal clinchers in the business empire of Mike Ashley, and he is expected on Tyneside today in a development that suggests major movement on the sale of the club is under way.

  • Punk Skunk

    Sep 30, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #29

    Could this be it?..

  • Whumpie

    Sep 30, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #30

    I hope Mort is back – he’s the only one of Ashley’s lot with a decent brain in his head.

    Anyway, I’m with Ed on this – it’s only words so far, but until we play a game that’s all we have to go on. I like what he’s saying, and I’m comfortable that at least he knows where to start.

    I have to disagree with Mark-O. “No-win situation”? The opposite – he’s in a no-lose situation. If he gets any sort of improvement he’s got his career back. If he doesn’t he’s no worse off than before.

    I’m optimistic… but then I wouldn’t be able to support this lot if I was a realist, would I? 🙂

  • Craigg

    Sep 30, 2008 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #31

    This is why i hardly look at this blog anymore.

    Taylor has made a few horrendous errors lately but how the hell are Bassong and Coloccini getting off with none of the blame.

    The way i saw the match on Saturday was the guy Taylor was marking from the free kick (Samba) was offside therefore the goal shouldnt have counted so it wasnt Taylors fault it was the linesmans.

    The goal Santa Cruz scored was initially Bassongs fault for alowing Emerton so much time and room to put in the cross and secondly Coloccinis fault for his shockingly poor marking job on Santa Cruz.

    I get so sick of people picking on certain players and not dishing out the blame accordingly.

    You could even say the whole problem is that of the front men and the midfielders who with better ball retention would take all the constant pressure off the back four.

  • Born Again Geordie

    Sep 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #32


    I totally agree with you on this one. Taylor did have an absolute shocker on saturday but I do think it was exagerated by the lack of confidence around him.

    Regarding Bassong I like a lot of what he does but do find his positioning both defensivly and offensively to be a little niaeve at times. Therfore we conceed stupid goals and when going forward Duff was lacking support down the left with Bassong drifting infield.

    Having said that he is young and I prefer the Zog playing in midfield I think it gives us better options.

  • Toon Army Scribes

    Sep 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #33

    I’d like to see more commitment from the players themselves. They looked dreadful against Blackburn and it’s not like they’re a bunch of amatuers making their debuts – Kinnear said he had to give them a taste of his hairdryer treatment before they lifted their games in the second half.

  • tyneside tommo

    Sep 30, 2008 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #34

    We complain bitterly when no one at the club speaks to the fans or media but when guys like Shay come aut and pull no punches we get so sensitive and tell him to shut up.

    Get real. I want to know what the players are thinking. Being lumbered with JFK must of come as much of a shock to them as it did to much of the fans.

    No harm in fans being positive and upbeat but you have to remember much of what JFK has said about the team is pretty damn obvious. You’ve also got to remember he’s in the job because others more experienced and a lot more successful than him would not touch the job with a barge pole. Let’s just keep our feet firmly on the ground. No matter how well intentioned JFGK is he’s certainly no messiah.

  • WesToon

    Sep 30, 2008 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #35

    Ho’way JK get stuck in Lad!!

    Bring in that nutter Vinnie Jones whilst you are at it,to kick some heads in,cause some of our players need it….. (Taylor 🙁 )

  • Buddy23

    Sep 30, 2008 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #36

    tommo- Who said anything about JK being a messiah? No one else wanted the job because there is no manager that wants this job on a temporary basis under the current climate. All JK is here to do is steady the ship on the pitch and get us going in the right the direction, whilst the off-field circus sorts itself out.


    Sep 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #37

    I recks get vinnie jones in too .. would be well funny and he would bash heads and get them f cuking moving .. the lack of professionalism is probably learnt from watchin Kev wander off as and when he likes …… but it is still totally un-acceptable and has to be beaten out of them .. GET MOVING LADS

  • murvar

    Sep 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #38

    Oh Pipes – here we go again! A gratuitous pop at KK. He’ll come back and then that’s hopefully when you will clear off.
    Astonished at some of the criticism on here – Cuse – you say Butt lacks heart?? The only reason we see him give the ball away more than others is that he is always showing for the ball when others are hiding! He never hides when things are tough. And I always think twice about attacking players who are serving the team by playing out of position ie Taylor on Sat. And Bassong. And Duff when they stick him on the right. And Zog when they put him at left back. I say again that Colo is the best natural defender we have seen since Woodgate. But the defence need the midfield to defend properly too.

  • murvar

    Sep 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #39

    Any way – we’ll be alright soon – the BBC is reporting we’re asking Steven Carr to make a comeback.


    Sep 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #40

    Aye Murvar .. but you know im right ..


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