The Chronicle has some really good news today – if it’s true – that Kevin Keegan will be offered a stake in Newcastle United worth millions of pounds if he returns as manager.
Johann Rupert – Chairman of Rosemont involved?
And what better way to stop him from walking out from the club again, than offering him a stake – a potentially brilliant move. And it looks like the South African consortium does indeed include the Rupert Family as we reported on Sunday , after one of our South African readers had alerted us that it seemed they could be the group.
Ashley seems willing to accept a reduced amount of around £300M, and perhaps as little as £250M so he doesn’t lose on the deal. The South African consortium are keeping their identities secret until they have studied the club’s books and reached an agreement with Ashley.
Keegan is central to their plans and the new news is that the five strong group of businessmen are prepared to offer him between 5-10% of the club’s value, if he agrees to come back. The Chronicle also does a decent job of speculating on who the businessmen may be and says Brian Joffe, 61, could be part of the group.
Joffe founded investment holding firm Bidvest and is CEO of South African football team Bidvest Wit. He buys failing companies and turns their fortunes around – so it sounds as if he’s in the right place – being after our club right now.
Bidvest’s financial controller David Cleasby said:
“I can’t talk for Mr. Joffe and that is all I can say.”
OK – well that tells us absolutely nothing.
The South African consortium are said to be ready to place £150M down-payment for Newcastle and pay the balance over the next year. As we reported on Sunday one man strongly linked with the deal is billionaire Johann Rupert, who is the current chairman of Swiss-based luxury goods firm Richemont, which owns brands including Cartier and Dunhill. He is part of the famous Rupert family of philanthropists in South Africa, and is the son of its founder.
In our piece on Sunday we said the 57 year old was worth £3.8B, and he already owns English rugby team Saracens, which he bought for £8M.
South African multi-millionaire Vivian Imerman may also be linked to the takeover, and Imerman, 53, was an owner of Del Monte before buying into Scottish whisky firm Whyte and Mackay, which he sold for £595M last year, reports the Chronicle today.
Imerman runs investment firm Vasari Global Ltd in London with fellow South African Gerald Katzeff, who is 61. However, the Chronicle reports that when they contacted Imerman, he denied being involved in a takeover of Newcastle United – but of course if they want to keep their identities secret, what else would he say?
Make no mistake these are the type of people we want to run Newcastle United, and to give Kevin a share of the club is a master-stroke. Only this morning we voiced our concerns that he may walk out again if he comes back. This is a brilliant way to keep him long term at Newcastle.
But there again we think this new group will treat Kevin with the respect he deserves. Same with Shearer hopefully, but it’s still a question if these two can work together at Newcastle.
The other thing is that the next World Cup is in South Africa, so Newcastle United could be front and center with all the football publicity South Africa will be getting in the next couple of years, and another reason why this group seem to know exactly what they are doing.
Now who are the best South African football players?
This has to be good news – if it’s all true.
Comments welcome.
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213 responses so far ↓
1 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM
It is looking very promising with the people who want to buy us. They will take the club forward and hopefully this time it will be a fresh start and we can start moving up the leage. Best South African player i have seen is Stephen Pienaar at Everton and Benni McCarthy in his first season at Blackburn.
2 Xisco19 // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Don’t you forget Matty Pattison! xD
3 JimToon // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Shaazzam
4 tommytrouble // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:36 PM
a little bit too much keegan love if that were to be true… I’m not sure what the benefit would be, sounds a bit contrived… I’m all for managers staying long term but surely a normal hefty contract and full power should be enough
5 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Newcastle have confirmed they are looking at bringing their former star Stephen Carr back to the club.
Magpies new interim manager Joe Kinnear has revealed that they are considering making the former Republic of Ireland international an offer to resurrect his St James’ Park career.
Former boss Kevin Keegan released Carr at the end of last season after four years at the club.
“We are looking at his position, but a lot will depend on his fitness,” Kinnear confirmed.
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What is he thinking! Another backwards step if it happens.
6 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:39 PM
THE DARKSIDE IS THRIVING AND HITMAN HAS JOINED US … BELTA!
7 Davies // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM
At least Keegan will have the pleasure of letting him go again.
I keep asking; is Keegan really the right way to go?
He may have a heart attack if he can’t walk out on us again!!!!
8 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM
THE KKLONERS ARE FALLING…… LONG LIVE THE DARKSIDE … TOOOOON ARRMMYYYY
9 YllekPtoon // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Hey all,im a south african and have lived in newcastle for my whole life of nearly 21yrs and have been a toon supporter for 15 of those years.best south african footballer is def benni mcarthy but he is already in th prem.there are near to no footballers in SA that id want to play for NUFC!!!they useless and so is the national team.but sounds like a promising take over indeed
10 The Entertainers // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM
While its interesting seeing who is bidding for us and who is not, it wouldnt surprise me if a company or individual who has not been mentioned wins.
Just look at our transfers and our board keep secrets better than MI5!
There is still plenty of time to get the right buyer and i hope Ashley salvages some of reputation by bringing in quality, wealthy owners, with Newcastle at the heart of its plans.
Maybe then the fans could be more forgiving towards you. …….Maybe?
11 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Davies, Keegan is not the way to go .. i loved that man for the mid/late nineties and now im broken hearted .. tbh, its still a right laugh when hes in charge + if he would agree to being a coach with a DOF alongside him, it would be a rollercoaster ride .. but if we want a sensible appointment, then not him …..
12 sweendog // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
All very positive news .. not sure about shearer in the mix though but Kk and being backed .. top 8 could still be a possibility if things move very fast .. fingers crossed.
13 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
what you going on aboot ya numpty
14 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Given the choice i would bring in a new coach that is proven to be a quality manager. How can we or the players trust a man who could walk out at any time when the going gets tough? He has proved in most if not all of his jobs that is what he will do. This is an ideal opportunity to bring in a new coach and move the club forward for a change. Before you say i have something against Keegan i dont. I would like him to come back but if we can get a better manager than him i think we should.
15 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Steven Carr!! .. yikers .. but if we have to, we have to ……………..
16 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Hitman … Nooo son! .. where you been … hows it gan, was hoping that would get ya oot …. we sweet or what ? .. mozza said you werent happy bout somethin .. haway man, ive got nee beef with you thought we were mates .. !
17 Kash // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM
I couldn’t give 2 FOCKS as to who’s gonna buy us. The most important detail, which everyone is missing, is HOW MUCH WILL THEY SPEND IN JANUARY TO STAVE OF THE THREAT OF RELEGATION?????????
We need at least 7 players to come in, pretty much a whole new midfield, 2 fullbacks and a CB!!!
18 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM
stop brining me tag into your comments when im not here,im not on your side never have and never will pipes.
19 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:51 PM
So are we sweet or not ? .. i’m only messin man, not many others been battlin (friendly banter) bout this as long as we have and i divent want yee p issed of with us … i saw you werent sure about Kev .. and im a little suprised .. whats made you change your mind ? ..
20 canada willie // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:53 PM
This seems more like it. Someone who knows what they are doing and are familiar with large organisations. At least they are doing a proper due diligence and the price will reflect the reality of the current situation
I suspect they will grow United and then sell them on in a few years when the market improves.
The price will be less than Ashley wants but this is no less than he deserves for screwing up the Club
21 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:54 PM
just because i dont want keegan back,dosnt mean i want ashley to stay,new start all round,new owner new manager, as soon as ashley does 1 the better this club will be.
22 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Ed – you’re getting as bad as the Sun man.
You say it looks like Rupert is part of the SA consortium, but in the very same article you’re quoting it actually says, “When contacted by the Chronicle, a spokesman said neither Richemont nor Mr Rupert were interested in buying Newcastle United.”
It’s these sort of articles that just feed the KK hysteria.
23 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Ok .. fair enuff .. in fact im probs with you that MA probs should go .. i mean, im not happy i still think he would be wicked for us, BUT been so much s hit that it probs impossible for him to continue .. i actually more concerned with the players pulling their f ingers out their a rses and playing football .. not acceptable at the moment .. hope Kinnear can get them goin .. get vinnie in to crash some heads together ..
24 Tom_Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Teko Modise is SA’s most ‘techinically gifted’ player according to Perreira.
They are mad to offer KK 5-10%.
25 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM
as soon as keegan walked i says on here bring in van gaal,i wanted him in when sir bob got the elbow,he is just what this club needs.
26 Angryman the Angry Fan // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Toonpipes, if anyone is changing tack mate, its YOU!!
i have noticed your posts have been becoming more and more milder with regards to your CASHLEY worship and you very rarely mention your god given hero anymore!!
Hedging your bets are you!!
ME I think your turn coat scum, always have been and always will be.
CASHLEY OUT!!
27 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Chicken you seen they talkin about Carr coming back ….. shambles ..
28 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:03 PM
did anyone listern to steve claridges phone in on setanta,he says he heard from a good friend the reason kk let milner go was wise and co says they could get swinztiger(soz for spelling),so kk let milner go,the next day wise and co asked keegan if they no anyone at bayern.
29 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM
*if he knows
30 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:05 PM
macken in milan
A proven manegerial track record?…
Kevin keegan then.
or maybe a fancy foriegn manager/coach…
Gullit?Ramos?… get a grip man.
pipes
why do we need a dof at all?
31 Black Caesar // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Mr ED I have lost confidence in you totally!!! What is it with you and Kevin Keegan? As someone who puts himself out as knowing football you should know Keegan is a mediocre manager!!
You backed Ashley and his cronies etc etc etc – your judgmentis useless!
…………………..
32 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Angry Man, sadly you have missed the point …. all along, the thing i have been MOST against was the hysteria immediately after Keegan walking, wherein you and loads of others blamed MA 100% and said KK was 100% right to go. Reason why i have argued so much is cos i dont blv and never will blv that it was 100% MA fault – defacto KK has to have been at fault to some extent … i also considered it 100% unacceptable for KK to walk – the principle of it is un-acceptable as i do not see enuff excuses … now you have calmed down and people like me have argued so much, you are finally seeing that all i am looking for is a balanced approach to the situation rather than everyone jumping up and down saying MA ooooot when clearly the end result would be the instability we are currently experiencing .. in all honesty if Keegan had sayed and worked it out, i would have been quite happy ……..
33 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM
If this SA consortium want to keep Keegan at the club why not just make him honorary lifetime club mascot.
Whenever we’re loosing and it looks like some fans are about to start booing and flapping their anti-whoever banners, the club can just wheel out KK and let him run up and down the touchline to remind the bedsheet brigade of the gold old days. He’d be like the personification of valium for the mob.
34 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:07 PM
And divent call us ‘scum’, your use of such a word is ironic yu dum dum
35 Temuri K's Shiny Bonce // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:08 PM
I’ve heard that Schweinsteiger story only the way I heard it was that a fee had been agreed with Bayern for him so Wise and Lambs Arse told Keegan he could sell Milner as they were sure that Jiminez could close the deal. Keegan did Jimenez didn’t
36 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Hitman, didnt see that but the story about sweinsteiger has come up a few time so mebs there is some truth in that ….. would explain why Kev said he agreed to let Milner go … otherside of the coin was that he did do cos he thought he was gettin a replacement ..
37 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Now you lot stop attacking Monsieur Le Pipe. He’s a national (well a north east) treasure and adds greatly to the gaiety of nations (in the old-fashioned sense I hasten to add. He’s the Toon equivalent of Mary, Mary – Quite Contrary. He professes to admire Ashley cos heknows it will wind up right-minded peole like me, and he says nasty theins about KK cos he likes being mentioned in other people’s responses. OH OH! I’ve fallen for it again!
38 micepie // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM
On KK again:
Well, it was wrong of KK to walk out in all ways except principles. He should still have worked on though until the end of the season, so if KK is re-appointed he should make some apologies as well as re-affirm his determination to succeed.
Like others I believe that another and younger manager could well be the best way forward for us BUT I feel that KK will at least be a good stepping stone to a future next level. If he came back soon we could probably rely on playing attractive football and finishing mid-table this season. With a totally new manager (or coach) it is more of a risk, when this season we probably just want to solidify and stabilise.
I’d go for KK again for this season and next, then hand to baton to someone else. The exception, for me, would be if we appoint a manager/coach soon who already has Prem experience like Sven. If that’s the case we’d be in safe hands.
39 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM
black caeser
explain., mediocre
40 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Noo Murvar .. hows it gan .. jus back for walkin the dog ? – are ye hips up to it ? … I do support MA .. and i dont support Keegans antics .. BUT quite clearly MA position is untenable so … mebs we have to move on .. doesnt mean i wudnt have prefered him to stay .. is that to complex for you to understand ? ? !!
41 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:13 PM
and tom toon
seen as your here i just read the ‘do we want keegan back’ blog.. and your comments were truly unbeleivable. made me mad
42 HAMMY14 // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I really like the sound of these lads they seem a much better prospect than the Nigerian lads. But lets wait and see
43 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:13 PM
if this is the way this south african group want to go,why not bring in kk as manager and shearer as number 2,shearer will learn his trade and keegan step doon after a few seasons
44 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:15 PM
hitman – noo.
shearer’s already declined that offer once hasn’t he. can’t see him changing his tune.
45 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM
‘keegan’s antics’
that is too complex for me to understand… i’m sure you’ll enjoy rolling your argument out again..
and i think you need to explain his ‘antics’ for me please
46 AndyNUFC // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Where the hell has this idea that Keegan walks out when it gets tough come from?
He was forced out because, rightly so, he wasn’t going to take the flack for poor performances and bad results from a group of players that aren’t his.
47 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Hitman seems to show less and less interest in the toon every match of the day .. p isses me off like ..
48 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Sos. . meant to say Hitman, Shearer seems to show less and less interest in the toon every match of the day …. whoops!
49 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Now now Pipette, old thing; it’s the knees actually (yes a football injury’s hangover) and don’t mock your elders. I raise the average age on here from 13 to 14. Leisurely lunch at the local kept me from you ‘ere now. But – welcome signs of balance entering your posts. Now you have a chip on both shoulders. Anyway – stop scamming on your bosses time – you have the longest tea-breaks this side of unemployment.
50 Ganiyu // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Is taylor better than anton ferdinand?
51 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Brave NEw Toon – ANTICS = WALKING OUT ON THE TEAM HE CLAIMS TO LOVE AT THE VERY START OF A SEASON – WITHOUT GOOD REASON .. IN MY MIND … DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN AGAIN .. ??
52 Angryman the Angry Fan // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM
TOONPIPES,
Me dum dum no you dum dum!!
You tell me once when I have said KK was 100% right to walk out please enlighten me.
What I am saying is CASHLEY is 110% to blame for the shambles we are in.
He appointed Wise!!
He appointed KK!!
He appointed Jimenez!!
He appointed Liambiarse!!
ALL FACTS there matey!!
Between the four of them, they have totally wrecked the club, like it or lump it the twat in charge takes the BLAME!!
I am reckoning thats is good grounds to get the Fat CASH loving kernob out of my club!!
He professed to be a supporter!!
Cracking way of showing it!!
He has done nothing for Newcastle United but drag its name through the mud with his incompetent running of and appointments at NUFC.
YOU and your ickle friends, have backed to the hilt from day one, how marvellous he is, how much he has done for the club, you slag your own fellow supporters off repeatedly, because they dare have a right to an opinion about the miss managment of the club they love!! You called us all a MOB, MOB Rule and all that bull. If the FAT man had a spine under the layers of cash an flab, he would have come out the day KK walked out and stated his intentions!!
But no, he took the easy option, stayed stume, until he p*ssed us all completely off and USED us as an excuse to try and double his money!! FAN indeed!
For this, people who support scum, should tarred with the same brush!!
DUMB DUMB (Correct spelling)
53 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM
without good reason
explain
54 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Whoah there pipes – looks like you opened up a can of angryman.
GRRRRRRRR!!!!
55 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Murvar, ive always been balanced, taking the far right striving for the georides to take a more balanced opinion was something i couldnt fail to take up … even if it meant i had to take some stick .. I see you conforming with the ”old timer” stereotype with your respecting of elders comment – no problem with that essentially, but haway, you canut expect us to have to explain every argument via step-by-step instructions .. i expect you to follow the leaps and jumps .. please dont make me spell out my position again ..
56 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM
toonpipes.
Without good reason? are you simple,.?
thats your argument?.. very good, don’t bother explaining again..
57 Egar // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Let’s hope that the future owner of NUFC is not as myopic as Ashley.
58 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Ahhhh PIPES is all over this thread like a rash instead. The equilibrium in my universe is restored.
59 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Angryman, are you so dum that you cannot remember the arguments for my position?
60 Phil,Gosforth // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Just come out with a valid reason toonpipes – oh wait- you can’t.
You sir,are an idiot.
61 Angryman the Angry Fan // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Antics = Someone who was promised that he would have final say on who he could bring in and sell as they will be leavoing or slotting into his team.
Antics = The person who gets the boot when the team is playing sh*te coz he picks the players, that subsequently he didnt buy or didnt want to sell.
So put all this together……..KK would have been sacked before january because the players bought for him werent good enough in numbers or quality!!
SO is this the meaning of antics toonpipes??
Or would the very loyal MR CASHLEY sacked the little rent boy Wise??
I know who my money would be on!!
62 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM
you haven’t got a argument for your position..
stupid boy
63 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM
don’t really wanna get involved with all this again but…
ho’way man angry – you say – “you slag your own fellow supporters off repeatedly”. You just called toonpipes “scum” did you not?
you’ve got to admit that most of the mud-slinging, name calling, skoolyard antics comes from your side of the fence.
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been called a bummer, or a mackem, or a cockeneye, or a ****, or a ******* ******, or a ******* ******* **** *******!
64 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Noo Bowburnmag .. hows the puppies this morning ? … 3am wake up ? … yes as youve spotted the intention to bring some equilibrium .. nice one .. what you mek of Steven Carr me lord comin back – scary stuff ..
65 Temuri K's Shiny Bonce // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Woah seems to be a lot of Testosterone flying round this afternoon. And to be honest it’s all over a whole load of rumours. Keegan’s ‘friend’ says he’s itching to come back (printed in the sun) South African Consortium want to give KK a 10% stake in the club (Alan Oliver attempting to spin rubbish – how does he know if no one will speak to him?) Sorry guys but don’t get excited until you read an offcial source. We’re all in the same corner – The Black and White one
66 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:27 PM
angreyman 59
excellent
67 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Phil Gosforth .. ”you sir are an idiot” you sound like a character from a harry enfield show .. shad app man
68 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:30 PM
tc,youve done a hell of a lot of name calling on here mate.
69 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:30 PM
toon chicken..
thats because you and pipes aim your commnts directly at us.. they are manufactured to provoke a response,..
like opposing fans…
70 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Angryman, not had y beta blockers today like ive seen you lose yr head with toonchicken before … is it a problem they can solve for you ?
71 dave v // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Spot on hit man.
But he won’t move down, he will be a board member overseeing the running of the club and making sure the supporters get the team the majority of the supporters deserve.
72 Phil,Gosforth // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:31 PM
More proof for my argument toonpipes – nice!
73 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Hitman!! .. are you jokin!! .. you have been the worst for that man .. haway ..
74 Angryman the Angry Fan // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM
TOONPIPES
I can remember most arguments for your position, give me 1/2 an hour and I shall list a FEW quotes for you!!
Contrary to popular belief, i do not hold up dirty sheets, I do not condone people stood outside St. James’ with dirty sheets protesting, it does shed us in a somewhat mentalist light, however, I do understand why they do it!!
ITS BECAUSE MIKE CASHLEY HAS F*KT OUR CLUB!!
I am angry and disappointed (Hence angryman)…because I new the bloke was an arse, i could see it a mile off
Toon chicken,
When I want you to join my argument I shall throw you a peanut
75 Ganiyu // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Our youth team is better than the south african national team
76 Ever seen a mackem in Milan? // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Like i say i would not have a problem with Keegan coming back but i would prefer it now we have the opportunity to bring in a top coach.
77 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM
BNT – i don’t aim my comments directly at anyone pal, unless I put there name at the front of my post like I’ve just done with you. The rest of the time I’m just here for the crack and seem to get along perfectly well with the majority despite have polar opinions on some sensitive subjects.
78 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:35 PM
milan makem.
Gullit? Ramos?keegan?jol?
who’s a top coach?.. what makes them a top coach?
79 Toon_Phil // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Its just been denyied on sky sports news that the rupert family are involved.
80 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Angryman .. chill out mate .. i know you can have a look for some quotes .. you seem to be missing the point that this is all about opinions .. look at how passionate you are about your opinion and you have to remember, i know this concept might be difficult, that i also passionately blv in my opinion .. so .. we have to AGREE TO DISAGREE …. get some ritalin inside and you;ll be good as new son ..
81 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM
i no i have,its when i get called mob,and shite like that that pisses me off.
82 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM
ho’way man hitman – yee cannit say that. I try and keep it clean most of the time. the few occassions that I’ve lost it it’s only because I’ve been personally attacked first. must admit tho – i do regret it when i loose my cool – there is something inherently dumb about calling people “scum” and the like on a tinterweb blog.
83 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM
why say this then?:
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been called a bummer, or a mackem, or a cockeneye, or a ****, or a ******* ******, or a ******* ******* **** *******!
you contradict yourself..
you get on perfectly well with everyone?
you know exactly what your doing.
84 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Whoa – there’s some real heavyweights from the Bedsheet (Copyright of MickyToon I think) and the Ashley Brigade ( No Copyright). Proper ding-dong action. Only thing is, is nobody else dizzy with the circles we’re gan’ in? Note – Slang “gan’” used to help diffuse and mediate. Always works getting all regional…..
85 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM
know what you mean about the use of the “mob” word like hitman. I try and avoid it where possible, but sometimes it’s an all too easy generalisation to use. Still, I’d rather be referred to as part of the mob than an Ashley bummer.
Anywho – you aint mob – you don’t want KK back either do ya?
86 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM
chicken im not having a pop mate, just saying,were all guilty of name calling.
87 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Whey Hitman, i get p issed off when everyone bangs on about MA being to blam and poor Kev having being treated badly on 4 milion a year .. so .. lets just carry on battling .. BELTA
88 Ganiyu // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Wenger is the next Newcastle manager
89 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:42 PM
na, we need a fresh start all round,its time this club moved forward
90 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:42 PM
PIPES – Puppies looking good and the dog is alright too! Sleeping like a dog now, all the way through the night til 6.50am walkies. My nocturnal keyboard action unsettles her so the blog is out of bounds after 10pm at the min. If Steve Carr gets any sort of contract I will pack my bags and head to Benton for a trial myself. I’ve accepted our fate as best I can but I will not accept things are THAT desperate.
91 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:43 PM
BNT – come on mate – I know you can do better than that.
Don’t try and twist my words to make me look like a ****.
I said I get on well with the MAJORITY. But I have also lost count by the number of times I have been bombarded with abuse from the MINORITY.
92 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:43 PM
pipes keegan walked out on his 4mill contract,he must of had a good reason
93 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Everyone is guilty to some extent – i wud say that the main ‘namecalling’ has been against the Ashley b um boys .. i yse the term MOB affectionately … i respect the passion nee probs with it i jus dont agree ..
94 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Hitman … well that is where we disagree .. i cannot see any reason being good enough to walk out on 4 milll … you can – that is cool nee probs …
95 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM
hitman – sweet mate – nee bother.
reckon a clean break is the best thing n’all – otherwise it’s only gonna blow up again a few weeks/months/years down the line, and as the last 3 weeks have proved – it aint good for the club – and at the end of the day that is the most important thing.
96 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Bowburnmag .. i cannit blv we can consider this cos he wasnt good enuf ever even after hes been out of training for 6 month .. its not good ..
97 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM
You know what’s funny about this? Everyone is right. You just need to collate the “arguments” to see this.
MA did cause this mess. Whatever his stated intentions, he has messed up big style. It looked as though he was the right man for the job and perhaps people were just hoping he was and that anything would be better than Fat Fred.
He appointed his team from the Chairman, down to KK, via Wise and Jiminez.
He put the team together and it didn’t work, end of. MA therefore needs to take it on the chin and FO. Which it looks like he is doing.
I have no problem with that and I have no problem with people who also think that.
However, you knew there was going to be one, I do have an issue with the so called facts that are often put about in here.
People quote papertalk, rumour and hearsay as though they were in the meetings themselves. They talk about what KK, Wise, Ashley, et al have all said and done as fact. I think the daftest one was the one that said KK chinned wise and Derek La la la labama.
I also can’t stand the small town mentality that people have. We were one of the top two teams in the most lucrative league in the world at one point. We have the potential to once again be a top european team, if the structure is right and yet people want us to be ran like a bigger version of blue star or dunston fed.
To be big we have to stop thinking the world ends when you are no longer in an area where the post code doesn’t start NE.
98 Phil,Gosforth // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM
So that’s your whole argument then toonpipes- money?
Why would the fact that KK was on £4m a year justify his treatment?
You went from “should have stayed coz he says he loves the club” to ” no reason is good enough to leave on £4m a year”.
If you believe the first,then the second is irrelevant.
If you believe the second,then you have no principles and expect KK to be the same.He isn’t.
/Chucks peanut
99 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM
bowburn – It’s bedsheeters that is copyright. You’re ok to use bedsheet.
100 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Feck off Mickey Toon you cockeneye loving mackem bum bandit!
101 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM
PIPES – you have to accept that some of the lads, despite otherwise reasoned debating, have used the word “MOB” which collectively criticised protesting fans (in various mediums) and whilst the literal meaning was slightly different ,was a negative relfection when all they were doing was what they thought was right for the club and them as a supporter. So trying to use affectionately would never work. But obviously getting called ‘a cockney mackem bum bandit who likes to fiddle with Mike Ashley’s wad and pick the warts of Dennis’ ar*e’ isn’t constructive for debate either.
102 djibo magpie of the cape // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:54 PM
the best SA footy players all reside in Cape Town…KK has connections here, bound to see a few at NUFC before WC 2010
103 Born Again Geordie // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Ganiyu – you are a bufoon – i cordially invite to to go forth and multiply !!!!!!
104 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM
I think I probably meant to say ‘conducive to good debate’ but being ‘mob’-minded I was a bit rash with my retort.
MickyToon – As of now ‘Bedsheet’ shall be my Copyright then. And you’re totally right about picking through the arguments. Some are obviously more extreme than others but a lot of the debating is between sensible lads who aren’t a million miles away from being in agreement. Which is hopefully partly what this is all about.
105 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 3:59 PM
TC – Do you know me? Because that’s an uncanny description of me. The only reason I couldn’t stand outside of St James with my bed sheet is because it’s a sunderland one to go with my sunderland wallpaper in my bedroom.
106 Shane // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I hope this SA consortium get the club, South African girls are absolutley stunning.
On a more serious note, the quicker the club is sold the better. The club just needs to move onwards and upwards, and this can’t happen untill MA sells.
Whether KK comes back or not, i don’t think it really matters. We just need to appoint the best manager who is availible at the time and is stupid enough to take the helm at our beloved club. If it happens to be KK then so beit, bring him in and move forward.
107 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Ya gotta accept that the purpose of Pipes is that he forces us to defend our judgements – and that’s good. Too many comments on here are slogans, not points for discussion eg MA is a ****; or KK messed us up (or is a quitter, my pet hate). Pipes doesn’t let people get away with that. All in all therefore Pipes is a legend in his own lunchtime and I want to nominate him for an OBE at least.
108 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Mickey Toon – I heard it was a reversible bedsheet that your mam made you specially – Sunderland one side – Chesney Hawkes on the other
109 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I’ve said it before, but if the right person owns the club and puts the right structure and investment in place, then I reckon we could attract a top manager. The temptation to finally win something, with a massive club who have underachieved for nearly 40 years, and become one of the biggest geordie legends must be pretty big.
Mourhinio would be ideal as his ego would love it (love it) if he managed to get us some silverware. But that’s not going to happen.
110 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM
TC – Naa. Sunderland on one side and Shakin Stevens on the other.
111 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Murvar you p iss taker …
112 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I think Bowburns claim that a mob member used the term ” pick the warts off Dennis wise ar**e” to describe myself or fellw MA ”b um boys” is particulaly unpleasant .. i dont think i have actually been called that mid-argument but im not trying to discredit the possibilty that is has been used at some point .. it is an excellent cuss
113 Ganiyu // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Name 6 players u want out of the present Nufc squad
114 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Mickey Toon – totally agree (about putting the right people in place, not the bedsheet).
I heard something a few years back – not sure if it was true – that the plan was for Bobby to step down at the end of 2005 and let his old friend Jose take the reigns.
Of course FFS put a stop to that by sacking Wor Bob and then Mourinho went and mugged it for everyone by winning the Champions League with Porto.
If only eh? Ah well…
115 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Yes PhilGosforth, that is my whole argument .. if that will make you feel happy then YES … YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSS …. no it isnt and you shud know better as you have read many of my posts .. no go and do some revision ..
116 Micky Toon // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Ganiyu – Milburn, Robledo, Tudor, Moncur, MacDonald, Beardsley.
117 Paul // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM
10% of NUFC for the silver haired timebomb? This is obvious drivel again.
118 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:23 PM
YES … YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSS toonpipes is that what stardust says when your slipping him one.lol
119 Geordie Jayne // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Just a general observation here but it is a crime to say Haway when using the Toon in the same breath.
Howay the Lads.
Not a provocation just an observation.
120 shearer9 // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Hi, can anyone tell me if there has been any news on SSN today about the takeover? I’m so impatient I want there to be news every few hours!
121 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Geordie Jayne – I think most of us think it should be fine to recognise colloquialisms on a blog, just be careful you don’t say H’way the TOONPIPES and encourage him when he’s on one of his ‘Darkside’ campaigns.
122 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:29 PM
hitman – hahaha – think i just pished me self
123 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Uh-oh – is this part of you covert op to root out the cockeneye impostors posing as real Geordies, GI Jayne?
124 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Hitman .. i wasnt here to defend me sel .. YOU tek a huff if i do that .. Huffy Hitman ..
125 irish_toon9 // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Off topic…was in newcastle all weekend…depressed being back…game was a low point but the people and the bars etc wer the best!! love the geordies!! Gonna try get over next month for a weekend again for the wigan game
126 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Wheeaay its generaljayne ..
127 AO // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:36 PM
hi guys. you suck!
128 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Mickey Toon – you are in good form today – enjoying your posts. But Maconald? – the most prolific misser of chances in the history of football and the most over-rated palyer we have ever had. Apart from Kevin Brock, who was vastly over-rated when people said he was crap.
129 AO // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:38 PM
ganiyu you are a clown!
wheres hard man normski today? heard he bottled it from fernando
130 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:38 PM
murvar – Brock was a great goalkeeper.
131 Egar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Towards the end of the summer transfer window it seemed like Keegan was turning into an muppet for Ashley, especially the ramblings about the Milner business. As fate had it, that didn’t happen. Keegan walked & rightly so. Under the circumstances, staying would do neither NUFC nor Keegan any good. As I’ve said it before, the Arsenal structure that Ashley was presumably modelling NUFC after is not done right exactly. Arsene himself would walk rather than be caught in the joke that Ashley and his cronies have cooked up here.
The first Keegan era gave us the entertaining football that most of us would cherished for the rest of our lives. That that happened before the Arsene’s Arsenal makes a significant statement for the man.
The second Keegan era, though somewhat short, did eventually brought out the best of what in reality was at best an average squad with the exception of one or two top class players at most and courting relegation to about mid table position in the end. The Keegan magic was back. Who wasn’t wowed over with the 4-1 swagger at White Hart Lane? But it was clear as daylight where the limitation is and many hoped that would be improved on in the summer transfer window. Sadly we know better now. Ashley is gonna do the walking now for what he bet would be a tidy sum. What a shame as many fans did believe that Ashley together with Keegan would bring about the fairy tale ending we the fans craved for.
132 AO // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:40 PM
keegan is a muppet and isnt welcome at our club!!!!!!!!
133 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Brock wasn’t a keeper – are you thinking of Kevin Carr, whose career nosedived after he nose-dived through a plate glass windoW?
134 AO // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:42 PM
cant wait till stevie carr is back in the black and white. ledgend!
135 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:43 PM
AO – discussion please, not slogans. Go on – try – surprise yourself.
136 AO // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:45 PM
murvar do one you cockney mug!
137 TOONPIPES // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Go on Murvar .. get some b loody discussions going ..
138 simon376 // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Hitman, I heard the same story about why Keegan let Milner go from one of Clarkies mates. The story is when Wise said when is he coming (not even going to attempt to spell his name lol) Wise said Jiminez (spelling) doesnt rate him, he’s not coming. Keegan said the deal is agreed in principle, Wise responded with, thats the way it is, I’m your boss, accept it
139 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM
murv (can I call you murv?) – Brockie went in goal againt Brum when Tommy Wright was knacked. Got a boot in the head and arguably had his finest hour. Actually, I thought he was a canny little player. Isn’t there a poster on here called Kevin Brock’s Left Sock? That made me chuckle (the simple things…). Kevin Carr eh? Nah before my time. I know more about Micky Thomas.
140 nate dawg // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM
wa everyone think the team will be for sunday?
i think
given
beye taylor/ bassong colo enrique
gerimi guthrie butt zog
duff owen
harper taylor/bassong cacapa xisco ameobi donaldson
note this is the team i think jk will pick not what i want
141 simon376 // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Brock did do half a game in goal when wright I think got injured. Brock then got knocked out, smelling salts used on him, but he kept a clean sheet, think Wright had let one in though
142 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM
murvar – Sorry I ended that last post with “I know more about Micky Thomas” possibly implying that it was leading somewhere with either juicy gossip or an in-depth analysis of a great NUFC stalwart, otherwise it was a throwaway statement which wasn’t remotely interesting or relevant other than him being a keeper. Sadly, it was the latter.
143 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Bowburn – I was at West Ham the night we were stuffed 8-1 and used 3 keepers – the first was Martin Thomas; any one recall the other 2 (I will tell you if you can’t). I also saw Thomas get stotted at Carlisle by a Toon fan who ran on the pitch upset that Thomas had given away a penalty. It was a needless offence – the ball was going out of play anyway and Thomas needn’t have fouled the guy!AO – don’t cockney me, please: not unless you can top my 34 years of Toon supporting
144 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM
murvar – Beardo was one.
145 Born Again Geordie // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
AO – is that short for Arse ‘Ole ? lol
146 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM
It wasn’t Hardwick was it? That rings a bell but I might be wrong.
147 It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC) // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
True… Keegan WALKED out on his 4M contract, so he must have done it on principle, right?
Also true…he took a nice sized pay-off to keep it all quite and continue to keep us in the dark.
So what exactly was his principle? Not getting his way? Defo not the pitiful way us fans have been treated.
Passionate, yes
Petulant, afraid so
Man of principle, ?
148 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I heard from one of Pedro’s mates that Wise and Keegan’s recruitment meeting’s were like something from Little Britain.
Dennis would hand Kev a hardback copy of the Shoot Xmas annual and ask him which players he wanted to sign. Kev would then point at a picture of Henry or Beckham and say. “I want that one”.
Little Den would then explain to Keegan that his choices were either too old or too expensive, to which Kev would reply, “Yeah I know!”
149 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Yep – Pedro, and Chris Hedworth was the other. Thomas went into the game with an injury and lasted about 20 minutes.
Toon support was fantastic that night. After the players had left the pitch, W Ham fans stayed behind to give our support a round of applause! Do you recall who scored our goal?
I was also there when someone threw a petrol bomb from the Leazes end into W Ham supporters in the East paddock. Bloke got 3 years for it.
150 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Nah Harwick was a keeper wasn’t he? Chris Hedworth. Just cheated on that last one by looking on a trivia site.
151 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
murvar – don’t remember the event personally but I’ve heard about it and believe I may know the song which relating to it.
152 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
TC,its not shoot anymore its utube
153 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
It was sickening to see fans (even W Ham ones) on fire with smoke billowing off them. And Billy Whitehurst scored our goal in the 8-1.Talking of Bill W – do you ever sit in the pub with your mates and take it in turns to name a crap Toon player? Harmless fun which can last for hours. Each one is met with laughter – but it wasn’t funny at the time, was it? In years to come it will be…….Xisco, Carr, Martins
154 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
uh-oh – you don’t wanna be saying that about Martins around these parts, murvar – they guy is a leg end, apparently.
155 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
murvar – still do it all the time mate. I have reams of names but won’t bore you lot with the details.
156 ToonRich // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Hey guys…I’ve only skimmed through most of this, so sorry if i’ve missed vital info! I wanted to touch on the Schweinsteiger story again…the version I heard was that Wise told KK that he could get a worldclass replacement for Milner, with the sale of Milner…Once Milner had left KK asked what was happening with Schweinsteiger and Wise replied “His agent says he doesnt want to come to NUFC”. KK didnt believe him so contacted Schweinsteigers agent himself to be told that no1 from Newcastle had been in contact!! Who’s telling the truth?!
Also, I’d like Shearer to show some bottle and take the helm at SJP. I think the only reason he’s not taken the job is he’s scared he’ll loose his Hero status with the city if he does crap. He doesnt need experience at top level, he knows the club inside out and has the character to boss the dressing room. Any thoughts?
157 Toon Chicken // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
ToonRich – the widely reported story was that a fee was agreed with Bayern but Schweinsteiger decided against the move. Whether that is true or not I don’t know, but I’d be a lot more inclined to believe that than some of the conspiracy theory drivel that gets trotted out on here and posted as fact.
158 murvar // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Toon Rich – I don’t blame Shearer for taking his time and choosing his moment. He has earned that right. He knows it’s a precarious thing, hero-worship and he’s entitled to do what he can to keep it intact. He must wait until stability returns.
159 HAMMY14 // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I respect everyones views and comments on here but i have to side with angry man on this like. Ashley has brought this hatered towards him ,wise and llambias himself he didnt forfill his promises to Keegan and when it came down it he sided with the dark side he gave his reasons why he did but at the end of the day we dont agree with them or the desison to let Keegan go and for us not likeing that descision doesnt make us ‘ A mob ‘ as when he brouught Keegan back notice how popular he was then and now HE has let Keegan go the ‘ mob ‘ didnt ask for that did they?
160 HAMMY14 // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
soz if my post is late on the issue before am at work lol
161 Frankieboy // Oct 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Fingers crossed.
162 dontoon // Oct 1, 2008 at 6:00 PM
I like the idea of a five man consortium. If each put 20 mill then we have a 100 mill for transfers or even 10 mill each. 50 mill will get us going.
163 TOON FAN // Oct 1, 2008 at 6:29 PM
THIS OUTSTANDING WEBSITE IS JUST GOING TO SHOW THAT MOST TOON FANS ARE TYPICAL.
THEY CHANGE THERE MIND LIKE THE WEATHER.
UNBELIEVABLE.
WE WANT KK BACK. NO WE DON’T, YES WE DO. NO WE DON”T ETC…….
164 ToonRich // Oct 1, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Murvar, I know what you mean re: shearer taking the job!
I just think he might be the type of character that could add stability, obviously under a new regime!
165 It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC) // Oct 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM
The reason we keep flip flopping is cuz no one knows nothing! KK has been silent since he left, personally I find it insulting that he would prefer getting his check over clearing his name.
As it stands we have a bunch of media-shite, rumors and speculation. None of which really helps out KK. We all love KK for the glory he has brought the club but in the grand scheme of things the misery he has brought just about wipes that out IMO.
If KK was to return he better have a pretty damn good statement on what happened otherwise I remain skeptical and will no way be behind his reappointment.
166 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM
I reckon, given his credentials and his personality, if Shearer goes into management there’s a much better chance he’d succeed than there there is that he’d fail but whether now is a good time to test the waters is highly debatable.
167 magpie6699 // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Hang on – if we get new owners soon,even with pots of money, that doesn’t mean that the world’s greatest managers will be queuing up to leave their present clubs and come here, any more than we are guaranteed to attract the best players without CL football.
So what will our options be? A young, promising but totally unproven manager from a lower division? Ditto from a lesser club abroad ? JFK continuing? Sven?? Graham Souness? (sorry – gallows humour).
Or maybe, just maybe, KK returns and can hit the ground running with the present squad who we KNOW love him and are motivated by him, with few exceptions. Then, for those who don’t rate KK, maybe IF we stabilise or even progress a bit, stop being a laughing stock and be able to show what a well-supported Toon is about, we might be more attractive to a real star manager to follow on from KK in due course?
168 Geordie Jayne // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Toon Chicken – Uh-oh – is this part of you covert op to root out the cockeneye impostors posing as real Geordies, GI Jayne?
No this is part of my covert op to root out Sad Mackems HAWAY.
169 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Aye Jayne,
haway is definately mackemish!..
170 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM
As the team runs out of the tunnel, it defs says Ho’way the Lads!..
171 Paul // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Richemont specialise in ‘bling bling’ including such names as Cartier, Piaget, Van Cleef and Arpels, Dunhill, Vacheron Constantin, Mont Blanc and many other luxury brands. To be honest, I can’t really see how NUFC and it’s mucky bedsheet wielding, White Lightning fuelled insurgents in Kappa tracksuits would fit in with this kind of portfolio.
172 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:24 PM
They could maybe get some much needed advertisements on the bedsheets tho’…& maybe buy a bunch of shiney new tracksuits to pass around…Also, it’s amazin’ what y’can do with an airbrush & photoshop in pictures from around the ground!..
173 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:30 PM
paul,so a few muppets on the box make fools of them selfs,so you label all us geordies with the same tag…
174 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:31 PM
tossa
175 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM
That’s another way of puttin’ it hitman…
176 Paul // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Er, no I don’t Hitman. Like many of my fellow Geordies, I have never experienced the delights of White Lightning and I have never worn a Kappa tracksuit. It was a joke. Lighten up man!
177 sean667 // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:56 PM
man its like ive neva been away
178 sean667 // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:58 PM
so no new ideas on when were goin to stop bein a shower of sh*t then, don`t get me wrong all the bickering on here gives me a regular chuckle……………… tin hat time
179 sean667 // Oct 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM
oh………… is it ya bed time?
180 Toon TARDIS // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:02 PM
The truth is, we’re second bottom of the league with a threadbare squad so we would struggle to appoint a manager of Hiddink or Van Gaal’s stature or reputation regardless of new owners or how much they intended to spend come January. There is still a serious risk that we could be in trouble by that time and it’s difficult to believe that a top European manager would be willing to leave a club who are currently in Europe (champs league or uefa) to come manage a club that may at best be struggling to finish top of the bottom half this season.
The only person who would probably jump at the chance, knows the current squad and has a track record of getting the best out of players (especially at NUFC) is Kevin Keegan. We need someone to reinvigorate the current squad, who can guide us away from the drop zone and won’t take long doing it. Another manager could take weeks to find out who his best players are and what positions they should be playing and by this time we could be in worse trouble than we are now. Keegan has the luxury of being fully versed on our squad and it’s clear that he would command the instant respect of some of our senior professionals like Owen and Given.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t necessarily plump for a successful coach from overseas but I have doubts about our ability to attract such a person at the current time.
We need stabilising more than anything at the moment and Keegan could galvanise what’s left of our team and do what he’s best at, restore some much needed confidence.
181 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Sean,
i’ll get the beast to give ya’ a knock when the coast is clear!.. Lol!..
182 bowburnmag // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Paul, lighten or Lightning up?
183 james // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM
JUST BRING HIM BACK KK 4EVER FULL STOP
184 sean667 // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:15 PM
cheers punk skunk lmao
185 Punk Skunk // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Sweet Sean!.. Lol!..
186 JJ // Oct 1, 2008 at 8:30 PM
The Ruperts built up an empire from a garage cigarette shop.
He is involved in quite a few other things…
But I dont believe football is a passion of his…
He is more of a golf and rugby man…
But Im sure if he was involved in a takeover…
And I doubt it. He would do a fine job.
187 Stardust // Oct 1, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Hitman – you hate being called the MOB but you were with the MOB demonstrating!
You cant distance yourself once youve aired your dirty laundry in public!
188 Josh. Reeve // Oct 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM
NO, NO, NOOOOO
We have to get past Keegan, I think it is obvious to us all now, he is a quitter, when things get tough, he cant cope with it so he takes the easy way out.
I will be happy if he never comes back on any level.
Aswell as Ashley and Wise, obviously.
189 Toon Graeme // Oct 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Thought – not sold by Jan = no transfer cash = sh*t.
190 hitman // Oct 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM
here he is stardust,its people like you that give us geordies bad names,the MOB you refer to is over 50000, now thats not a MOB thats an army.you are a number 1 ahole, no twat likes youy on here apart from the FEW ashley bum boys,so lets hope you all do 1 when ashley does,TW@TS
191 stjames // Oct 1, 2008 at 9:59 PM
The idea of Kevin owning a big chunk of the club and being manager as well is a really bad one. A manager should be focused on football only. He should not have a financial interest in buying or selling players e.g. His only interest should be the quality of team and players.
192 Monument Mal // Oct 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I notice Everton have now enlisted the help of Keith Harris to find a buyer for the club. Could this mean that Anil Ambani is in for us after all? I suspect someone not mentioned so far may well buy us.
193 Disheartened // Oct 1, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Here we go again – Keegan Round 3, or is it 4, 5 or 6??!! I’m already starting to lose track of it all….I hope there is no truth to this latest rumour.
Let’s forget Keegan already and move on. He had his shot and glory at the club TWICE! The sooner people realize that the better off everyone will be. As long as he is in the picture, the club will never go forward in a new direction. It’s like listening to a broken record over and over again.
For the first time in a very, very long time we have the chance to start completely fresh with a new owner, manager and coaches. It will take time and patience to turn the club around, but at least we will get what we lacked for many years, which is STABILITY hopefully.
194 Stardust // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Nice to see you revert to type Hitman when all I do is point out observations re your behaviour. – you choose to lie and paint yourself in a different light from the one you actually choose to live in.
Yes it seems from the pro KK vote on the blog I am in the minority – I dont want him back. Nor would I have joined the MOB and brought the short to medium term destruction of the club when in my opinion Ashley had been trying to do a lot of good things.
But the MOB have pointed out those simply werent good enough as he is a Cockney. You want Nigerians, South Africans, Indians – whatever as long as they dont want to build the club loong term and can satiate your fix for “wow” signings.
Well if you are patting yourself on the back for continuing to be in the MOB bringing the club down well – hey ho fella – youre just living up to the nations steroptypical view of our supporters.
Im embarrassed and saddened to be associated with the likes of you and the MOB through the shirt we both support.
195 Troy Stavers // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Stardust you talk utter rubbish. You continue to state ashley was building foundations yet you never explain wot they are. please enlighten us cos all the 50k mob can only see quick sand. Please explain about the big quality squad we have that wise assembled. Tell me where all the tv revenue has gone. Please, we need to know, you seem to be the only one who does.
196 Stardust // Oct 2, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Stavers!
If only we hadnt discussed this over a thousand pints I would bother to answer – but we all know youre DARKSIDE with me but winding up the no so bright folks (MOB) on here!
197 Grae_NZ // Oct 2, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Soon we’ll be under New management – lets hope this is a lasting legacy. The club we love needs an overhaul again!!
Mike Ashley got it right – Go the Arsenal route. He did forget to sign the big players to make that happen. He hired people out of their depth and we lost a very capable manager due to petty squabbling. DOF my foot!
For the fun, posterity and shear bloody mindedness I want KK back. For the future I want a proven European manager.
How long will we have to wait to replace JFK?
With either of those I don’t know.
2 -3 wins will settle the club.
Lets hope so.
198 Aussie Magpie Fan // Oct 2, 2008 at 2:28 AM
I really hope that the SA take over bid is successful… They seem to be very sound businessmen… Not oil rich arabs with money to burn and no real passion for the game…
However….. I really hope they don’t offer KK a stake in the club!! As stated in prevoius blogs above… He is now a part of club history… not a part of the clubs future… Please KK supporters, KK sh* does stink… He is not the panacea for all the clubs problems… Bring on the South Africians.. send off KK
199 Geordie_SA // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:13 AM
I am a South African living in SA and I am one of the very few NUFC supporters out here.
This is great news !!!!!! If it is true
The BIDVEST group is a very and successful company. I hope this works out, then we will have more NUFC supporters in SA.
200 Stamford Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Hope KK is not coming back and that we can get someone more reliable and stable with a good knowledge of the game as it is today.
Perhaps some should wait and see before they call prospective buyers good when they donlt know what the personell are and what their plans are for the future. Just wanting KK back does not mean that the have the potential to make us a great club. I think MA will try to get the buyers who he considers to have NUFC at heart. After all he had, even though he made some mistakes. Of course there are those who will only accuse him of telling lies when he made that statement because they can see no further than KK. Take off your blinkers and you will see a much wider picture.
201 kingaknaa // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:12 AM
An interesting article in the telegraph documenting the financial situation at the toon given to prospective purchasers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3111878/Newcastle-United-may-look-a-circus-act-but-winning-buyer-could-have-last-laugh-Football.html
One point in particular, we were told about money owed out in transfer fees and how disgusting it was, what the money men failed to mention was the amount owed TO us which it seems is actually more than we are owed. All in all, a healthier club than has been communicated to us previously!
202 Jonny s // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM
why are you lot all caught up in this whole Keegan thing? He’s clearly not the way to go and if you so called football fans think about it you’ll realise i’m right. My first point is back in the 90′s how many teams did we have to beat to the premier league? 1 Man Utd. Who had more money than us back then? Nobody! So you tell me, How on earth is Keegan gonna make a success out of us now? He couldn’t do it then and he most certainly cant do it now. The likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City, Portsmouth, Everton and countless other teams have moved on and are now better than us. You’re all clearly deluded by the whole Keegan circus. If we wanna be up there we need a proven manager, Van Gaal, Mancini, Deschamps, Van Basten, Steve Bruce, Advocaat. Please snap out of this hold that Keegan has you in. We need to forget the 90′s as grea as they were. It’s 2008 lets make a fresh and get this club where it belongs!
203 TOON SA!! // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I have been a toon supporter now for 15 years,and i would never have believed they could be owned by South Africans. It this go through i will feel so proud. Hopefully then there can more supporter clubs started here,i dont know of any one in SA. Only Chelsea,liverdrool,Man @U and Arsenal. Would love to watch a game with fellow toon sa supporters.
204 Dondatta13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Stardust …. So you support a shirt? lol
I support NUFC meself like…
205 Toonja Boy // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:27 PM
STARDUST / SPYRO = COWARD!!!
CANT EVEN USE THE SAME NAME!!!
206 CHARLO // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Jesus this is the worst nufc blog debate ive ever read it has turned into a repetetive argument going round and round and to make it worse the name calling has started,come on guys grow up
207 peter watson // Oct 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I have supported Newcastle from my first match
at the age of 8 with my father, a total now of 55
yrs,I have I imagine like all supporters been both elated and stressed out on many ,many occasions over all these years.
I am at the age of 63 now and find the possibility that Newcastle could be owned by a South African group in particular the people being mentioned as exstremely positive as I have spent the last 34 years living in South Africa and am aware of these peoples achievements and what they could bring which is brains and common sense this normally relates to success something which appears to be lacking both inside and outside Newcastle at present.
208 Toon_Phil // Oct 2, 2008 at 1:12 PM
I’ll say it again since no one took notice yesterday!
IT WAS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS YESTERDAY THAT THE RUPERT GUY WAS NOT INVOLVED!
209 Dondatta13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Peter Watson, agreed!
What NUFC dearly needs but has been seriously lacking is …. common sense, good post!
210 JakartaDean // Oct 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
You don’t mix shareholdings, of any significant fraction of the total, with employees. What happens when performance suffers, and it’s time for the former golden boy to leave, but he owns 10% of the firm?
Nobody would offer their own money to get into that situation, it’s ridiculous on the face of it.
Sounds like garbage to me.
211 peter watson // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:59 AM
If it is the South Africans who are the successful purchasers I would doubt very much that they would give a shareholding to Keegan as a enticement,they may offer some sort of incentive bonus,at the end of the day if the conditions upstairs are right I would think there would be a number of candidates equaly as good as Keegan who may be a little less tempremental/volatile if things get tough at times and who are less likely to run away.Keegans ability is not in question but his sympathy demands may be.I may be wrong but most managers are fired for non performance or to cover up a poor boardroom in Keegans case I dont think he has ever been fired as he has always managed to leave/disappear in time ,interesting ?
212 Magents // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:33 AM
Anyway I thought I should let you know aobut Some very good South African players on come up
1. Elrio Van Heerden (Club Brugge, Belgium). The Maradonna of Belgium. To he’s the Maradonna of the World. Undoubtedly the best player out of South Africa. Will put Man U Ronaldo to shame with speed and skill. Check some of his goals on Youtube
2 Teko Modise (Orlando Pirates, SA) . Creative Genius is currently being targeted by Olympiakos from Greece and Westbromwhich Alboin from your country. He’s 10 times better than Pienaar can shoot like no one I’ve seen lately.
3 Kagiso Dikgacoi pronounced Dee-haa-shwa (Golden Arrows,SA) Defensive Middlefielder. The next Makelele. Very commanding in the middle of the park, works like a horse and is just pure class mate!
4. Tshepo Masilela (Maccabi Haifa, Israel) Left Back. One of my fav Bafana bafana players. He deserves better than Israel. Consistent Left Back who is mad quick can attack and score as well.
5. Bryce Moon (Panathaikos, Greece) Right Back. One our new weaponry in the Bafana arsenal, he just move to Greece where he’s had immediate impact and nearly brough Inter down in their first game of the CL.
213 Magents // Dec 1, 2008 at 3:35 AM
Oops !Dikgacoi might sign for Fulham pending a work permit .
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