The BBC is reporting that it understand a South African consortium has made a bid in the region of £300M to buy Newcastle.
If that is true, and with the positive reaction to the group by Newcastle fans, that would presumably be an acceptable offer to Mike Ashley. It gives him £55M profit on his investment of £245M, which is just over 22%.
The South African group of five businessmen are also reported to be keen to bring back Kevin Keegan as manager, and the Evening Chronicle reported last night they would offer Keegan a 5% (5% – 10% was what the Chronicle actually reported) stake in the club.
If the deal goes through at £300M that’s £15M for Kevin – and twice that much if he is offered 10% of the club. Not too bad at all for what essentially is a signing-on fee. And if they are willing to give Kevin that personally, you’ve got to believe they will fund him big time in the transfer market.
As we reported this morning interim boss Joe Kinnear revealed today that Derek Llambias told him as many as eight consortiums had been in talks with owner Mike Ashley about buying the famously supported Newcastle United club.
The South African group must now be considered the front-runners and could be set to finalize a deal in weeks. The expectation is that some group will buy Newcastle before the end of October.
This has to be good news for both the club and the Newcastle fans, as this group seems to be very professional and want only the best for the faithful fans.
We would love this deal to go through – love it.
Comments welcome.
347 responses so far ↓
1 Gorman // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM
1st
2 Hugh Jorgan // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Let´s hope we see some positive action and get ourselves out of this embarassing mess !
3 neeraj // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:25 PM
get the deal done and dusted
pls don’t bring back KK…….
4 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM
What kind of idiots give a manager a 5% stake in a club.
5 Kenneth // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Get Avram Grant or Rijkard if they are intrested.
6 Hadrian // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
its common practice for people tobe offered stakes in a business as an incentive .
they may add that feature someday to football manager tom_toon and then you will be more comfrotable with it .
time to welcome back keegan !
7 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
‘Hey bru, Meesta Kevin Keegin, we give you a 5% stake in the club mun, please manage us bru’.
8 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
who knows the identity of these blokes and if so what is there combined wealth? is it enough to compete
9 Barcode // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
On another forum Simon Clifford is supposed to be arrogant and a nasty bit of work.
10 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
hear haer neeraj
i want David Moyes
Keegan back to steady the ship with Shearer as #2 to eventualy succeed
Or just big al himself
not nessisarily in that order but i can’t see any other alternitve with out a mass exudos come january
11 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Hadrian – Maybe, but ill never know because i wont ever and have never played it.
Ino they do give people stakes in a company but 5% of £300mil is far too much.
12 ToonEskimo // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Does this mean we’ll get “car jackings” at the lights on Barracks Road?
13 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM
good article on tribal football about them
14 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM
ToonEskimo ha ha! good one
15 Irish_Toon9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:42 PM
@Belfast toon..do you have a link?
16 Toonboy // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
It sounds like the best deal of all of the groups trying to buy the toon,GET IT DONE
17 Hadrian // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Tom , that depends on the salary he’s offered if its to much or not .
personally i think its a great idea , give’s kev a decent say on the direction of the club without having to cause arguments with the board to get them to show abit ambiton , lets face it , when he’s left us its always been because the board never matched the fans ambitions , and i class keegan as a newcastle fan .
we will never get another manager why fights so hard for this club , its like having one of us in that position of power .
18 Paul // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM
A more specific figure of £280 million has been quoted, and they haven’t spoken to Keegan at all yet. Personally I can’t beleive that would be stupid enough to want the silver haired time bomb back, expecially not with 5% of the club! That would present complications anyway as Keegan is currently suing NUFC for the £8 million compo he believes he is owed for walking out.
19 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM
another point:
Keegan stay away!
20 Shot Bru! // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Great stuff tom toon bru! By the way never trust an afrikaaner in business, which Johann Rupert is, if he is involved in this takeover at all, which i doubt it.
21 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:45 PM
who knows there combined wealth?
22 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Keegan isn’t the Yorkshire Ripper but the Yorkshire Quitter.
The man runs more than Paul Radcliffe.
23 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:46 PM
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/302768621sp?-11058
sounds good boys steven carr coming back was rock botom so the only way is up
24 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Bring in Rijkaard…closest manager to Wenger in terms of palying style!!!
25 GrhBell // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Just hope a deal goes through sooner rather than later for the good of the club, and then we can concentrate on climbing the table.
26 jonas the legEND // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:47 PM
SHEARER WE WILL BE UNBEATABLE
SHEARER SHEARER
27 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Shearer is an idiot, he wants te job so he should go manage in the lower leagues first.
I hope these Sewf Efrikans are logical enough to see past Silver Surfer, Quitter Keegan.
28 neeraj // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:50 PM
zico or terim
experienced, great tactician and motivators
atleast they are interested…..
29 HAMMY14 // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:50 PM
REALLY HOPING THIS LADS BUY US. ITS GOT TO BE THE BEST SOUNDING POTENTAL BUYER THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED SO FAR.
30 Paul // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Tom Toon, when has Shearer ever said that he wanted the job?
31 ToonEskimo // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Tom_Toon,
I’d heard that KK had been promised a £2million signing on fee with Ashley and that he would have walked as soon as Wise came on board but that the £2mil hadn’t been deposited in his account so he had to sit tight til he got his money, apparently he owed a fortune on his soccer circus and couldn’t afford to just quit.
Not the greatest idea really an englishman setting up a soccer school in Scotland….
32 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM
the reason i want keegan or shearer is so the get time we have had more coaches than trans link
“shearers an idiot”
“how very dare you”
33 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM
sound good hammy theese guys have my vote
34 k k forever // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:56 PM
neeja u pr1ck TOM TOON ur worse than the yorkshire ripper and jack the ripper put together
35 Nick // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM
A bit racist there Tom with the stereotyping mate.
I have reservations about KK coming back, but I do feel he could be a great ambassador with a great incentive and deterrent to finally finish what he starts this time round.
The most exciting part would be the introduction of Simon Clifford (www.icfds.com)
Amazing guy plus great contacts.
36 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Racist?!?!?!?!
Grow up please.
37 A.L 9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Tom_Toon your KK obsession is scary if i’m to be quite Frank.
38 Michael // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Lets try and get a real world class manager, Rijkaard springs to mind.
We need a manager respected throughout the game who can take us to the next level.
39 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
tom toon i don’t think your a racist but then neither was jade goodie your just thick as f**k
40 irish_al // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
nick- no doubt some one will make a big deal about him being a smoggy
41 neeraj // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
k k forever
yes KK is a legend….
probably the greatest strikers england produced….
one of the best managers in club football….
but can you guarantee he won’t quit again…..
this time yes he was right to leave….
least said do you think the players would have the same respect as they did 9 months back, when he walked out he walked out on them also…
but its time to look forward and might be alan shearer would be a good option, but not till the club is stabalized
42 Edd Case // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
I’d rather have Rijkaard too, to be honest.
Have these people got millions to spare for transfers though???
Personally, I couldn’t care less who owns the club as long as they are willing to splash out millions, and let’s face it, we could do with £150 million on transfers…
If they’ve got £150 million, purely for transfers, brilliant, if not, might aswell be Ashley.
43 k k forever // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM
DUS ANY ONE KNOW WOT THERE COMBIND WEALTH IS
44 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:10 PM
I always take the piss out of my Sewf Efrikan mates.
45 Timmers // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM
http://www.tribalfootball.com/?q=content/south-african-consortium-confident-newcastle-success-members-unveiled
The link on tribal football, interesting if true
46 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I dont think how much they are worth is the question what are their intentions are we a chelsea type play thing or a mike ashley type investment
47 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM
belfast toon – closer to Ashley type hopefully.
48 k k forever // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM
1 BLOKE ALONE WORTH 4 BILLION
49 Alex // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:18 PM
We need Keegan back if we want to keep Owen . That’s why both the South Africans & Nigerians want him back if they take over . My preference is the South Africans .
50 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:19 PM
dollars or ponds k k forever?
51 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:19 PM
dollars or pounds k k forever?
52 belfast toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I know the chelsea bubble is not going to last forever but god i miss football on a tuesday and wednesday night (even a thurday on channel five would do)
53 Jamie G // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:22 PM
This south african deal actually seems one of the most potentially legitimate and worthwhile deals. Basically, Newcastle need a group of people to buy the club, install someone to run it for them e.g chris mort or a peter kenyon-type, and just sit back and not interfere.
I agree with Wenger. The manager is the most important man at the football club and should such be treated with respect. I think Keegan was treated badly but I think its in his nature to quit when under the kosh. Its for that reason I think the new owners should look elsewhere, because myself, and i think alot of fans, are just starting to wake up, take off their keegan blind folds and recognise this man’s credibility…a man who, while tasting success over a decade ago with the club, has seen a worse win record that ruud guillit and clearly, based on is exploits with man city and england, clearly doesn’t really understand what the game and the premiership has evolved into.
I think the new owners, (hopefully the South Africans as they seem to have the best portfolio) should be looking to bring in an experianced premiership manager who is respected and has had recent success…. david moyes and steve bruce come to mind.
54 DanToon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:27 PM
If Newcastle are looking to bring in an experianced premiership manager i would bring back Keegan. Other than that i would go for Mancini, Rijkaard, Terim or Donadoni in that order.
55 Johnny_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Why do they seem porofessional? All we know about SA is that the region is close to turmoil…
56 Manager Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Good evening boys.i want to give u a little pep talk before the euro cup match.i also want to give some instructions to my key players before the match
57 Xsico golden boot // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM
the south africans do seem more organised than I thought from what has been wrote they are four billionairs so who do we want as manager for me KK why because he understands our club loves the club giving him a stake brilliant this also clears the problem of paying him compensation that will be handed over from ma
58 joe // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM
I don’t for one minute want Kinnear to remain as manager for too long but has anyone else seen how much reign he as been given with the press? All of a sudden we know everything that’s going on and what is likely to happen. Keegan wasn’t allowed to talk about anything. It’s amazing what Ashley wil do to avoid another dressing down by 50000 geordies! Hope this deal goes through and we get a manager who is right for us, Keegan or otherwise, and he gets backed in the transfer market.
59 jules // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Apparently Joe K is preparing a hit lis of players should he still be in charge come the January transfer window
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_4236584,00.html
Does that mean we will see a return of players like Vinnie Jones, Dennis Wise ? who knows maybe even Jimmy Greaves!
Why is he preparing a hit list ? surely that is loveable little Dennis’ job
60 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Good evening boys.i want to give u a little pep talk before the euro cup match.i also want to give some instructions to my key players before the match. Listen carefully
61 Frankieboy // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Rathet them than the Nigerians.
I remember us all being this cock-a-hoop when Ashley bought the club.
That said if they run the club correctly (and by that I mean take on board the feelings and the aspirations of the supporters) then bring it on !!
62 craig chisholm // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM
i just dont understan why joe k is drawing up a list of his targets for january. what the hell is the point of that. ashley and his wakers had months to get people in during the summer and all they did was weaken us further buy not signing enough depth or quality. joe should shut is fat mouth, i am sick of his drivel already. he just needs to concentrate in getting us some points, nothing more.
63 Frankieboy // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Exactly Jules. Didn’t KK want to compose a list and we all know what happened next.
64 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:42 PM
I heard someone say that one of the guys in the South African consortium is worth 8billion, one worth 3.8 and one 4. Not bad if true!
By the way, tom_toon are you really a Newcastle fan??
Your comments that Alan Shearer is an ‘idiot’ and your continuous slaging off of Keegan suggest to me that you are not.
65 Richard // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:43 PM
How can anyone of sound mind want Luxemburgo in charge? The guy has failed outside Brazil and managed to screw up managing their national team. Managerial failure outside Brazil.
Terim – failed to cope at Milan and did an average job at Fiorentina with some great players at his disposal. Managed to do well with Gala – not really that hard when you consider there are really only 2.5 teams in Turkey.
Advocaat – don’t even start that one.
If you don’t want KK back – make some sensible suggestions…
66 dan // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:49 PM
If Keegan had not walked out you would have had Ashley and Wise picking the players for the rest of time, bring back Keegan he stood up for the players and the better of Newcastle United
67 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:50 PM
BILL
N.I.G.N.O.G haha, that certanly made me laugh.
(Be prepared to be labelled as racist)
68 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Richard – Picking on my suggestions are we!
Terim won the UEFA cup as has Advocaat.
69 Ally // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:51 PM
BILL that was a pisser
70 Chris H // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:52 PM
A bit racist that Bill mate.
I hope these South Africans have made a serious bid for our club. They seem to have great vision for the future. This Clifford bloke has been called a genius by some and he’ll be great for our youth set up.
Get Keegan in until at least the end of the season and give him a bit to spend in January and I can see us doing ok.
71 Jamie G // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:53 PM
BILL, your attempts to sound funny are ineffective to say the least.
72 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:53 PM
dan
I agree, clearly Keegan walking out is not good for us in the short term. But I feel it will be in the long term.
If he had stayed, nobody would have had a clue what was going on (Wise picking the players) and it would have carried on with MA still in charge.
In my opinion a takeover is vital for the future of NUFC.
73 tOoN Raghav // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:54 PM
micheal owen is himself going to buy the club nting to worry guys
74 Richard // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:56 PM
You could list as many failures as they have had successes to be honest. Advocaat hasn’t done a good job anywhere until he got Zenit’s money. Failed with Holland and only won the league with Rangers when Celtic were abysmal. When O’Neill came – he lost it.
75 MarK // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM
“Sewf Efrikan mates” you ass lol.
seriously though…5% to keegan to come back to manage the club…rightt..what next? give owen 10% to sign a new contract? sounds like tosh to me.
76 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Richard – Keegan, never won anything as amanger. Good enough reason. To logical people yes, to you, i expect a no.
77 k k forever // Oct 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM
SHEARER 9 IT IS TRUE MATE 4BILLION POUNDS LOOKED IT UP ON THE NET COMBIND FORTUNE OV 11 BILLION MATE AND THATS WITH 1 LEFT OUT CUDNT FIND HIS BUT HE SOLD WHITE AND MCKAY WISKEY LAST YEAR FOR 900 MILLION
78 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Lets hope it is true they have made a bid then, I’m not that keen on the Nigerians to be honest. They’ve struck me as being a bit dodgy from the start.
79 jules // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM
What i cant understand about Joe K is that according to the NUFC website he signed up for 6 games, now he says 8 could be more!
Joe K says Ashley is talking to 8 consortiums! This is the same guy that said last week Shearer and Keegan were coming to us!
It seems to me we go from one extreme to the other, we either can’t get people to talk to the media or people who can’t stop talking to them !
Joe K continually spouting off is like someones old Aunt who has not been visited in years getting a visit and then she wont let you go.
80 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:15 PM
TT,
why the hell would you call Shearer an idiot?
You sprout some crap sometimes mate
81 Richard // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Sure he could if he managed Rangers…..
82 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:17 PM
tom toon your the most annoying little boy i’ve ever come across.
by the way… mclaren nearly won the uefa cup.
stop picking names out the of your sticker album and claiming to be an expert… get on wit your homwork
83 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Keegan is a naughty boy for leaving us in the learch, but i would have done the same if i had those cockney little pigs telling me what to do, therefore i dont blame Keegan and i would love it if he came back
84 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:20 PM
BNT – Just piss off to your KK shrine surrounded with candles and have a w@nk!
85 I Made 1000 // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:21 PM
standard leige 2-1 everton
86 Beatski // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM
please not a return for keegan, aim higher
I know we’re all keegan fans here, but we’ve got a chance to aim higher, Rijkaard (sp?) etc.
we’ve less chance of being left in the lurch again, and more chance of progressing.
Now i wouldnt mind having keegan in some other role at NUFC, but not as manager
87 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM
so you have to win the cup to be a class manager..
Spuds won the league cup last year
portsmouth the fa cup
Arsene Wenger hasn’t won anything for a while
Mark hughes nothing
alladice nothing
Steve bruce nothing
Joe Kinnear.. absolutely nothing!
Stop talking ot your arse tom
88 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM
TT,
go back to your Fati Terim shrine and crack one off
You are a mug son
89 Gordon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I have no doubt that Ashley will hang out for the highest bidder, regardless of their ‘suitability’.
Let’s just hope £300 million is enough to get shot of him.
90 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I dont have a shrine for any manager, im just being so anti-kk to try and bash some logic into some people.
91 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM
it’s not logic tom
It doesn’t add up.
92 Gordon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM
I dont have a shrine for any manager, im just being so anti-kk to try and bash some logic into some people.
—–
Well as it seems we’re playing “who has the lesser shrine”, I don’t have a shrine of any sort to anyone.
So there.
93 xisco biscuits // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM
sick fo hearing people going on about how “if they haven’t got £150m available for transfers then it may aswell be ashley”. its totally ridiculous!! we don’t need anywhere near that amount to challenge for europe – i reckon £30m would get us challenging for europe if we had a good enough manager.
speaking of manager – my choice isn’t kk either because i feel he has too much power at the club, rightly or wrongly. we need a quality european coach/manager with new ideas and who can bring a totally fresh start, and my shortlist would include:
1. hiddink (probably pipe-dream)
2. van gaal
3. rijkaard
4. terim
5. pellegrini (villarreal)
6. mancini
94 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Yes it does:
- Quiter
- Never won anything
- Will be another uproar when he quits or gets the sack and fans will call for the others owners to go and this whole debarcle comes around again.
LOGIC
95 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:28 PM
TT
You obviously were too young to watch the last KK era when the football was shear class.
If KK was given the freedom and money, those days would return, because thats the kind of football he plays.
96 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Other managers play football just aswell + times have changed.
I am old enough to remeber some of it + i have also watched DVDs of it.
97 ToonEskimo // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:32 PM
I wouldn’t say winning a domestic cup makes you a great manager these days as most top clubs put reserve teams out these days as they have bigger fish to fry, difficult to say what qualities make a great manager, run club on a sound financial footing while getting results, winning regardless of cost? spotting superstars at an early age and flogging them for a huge profit? I doubt we’ll ever be lucky enough to have a truely great manager.
A question to ponder…..
Who was the last Newcastle manager to leave to take up another job in management?
ie. head hunted or poached not sacked or quit….
98 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Just whatever but not Kev
99 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM
We need a manager that understands the place, otherwise it wont work as well.
Think about it, since the PL began, we have only been the force we should be under 2 managers
Keegan and Robson
They know the club better than any other European manager that has never even been to Newcastle.
Keegan is still the man for the job IMO
100 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:34 PM
1.hitman
2.Ganiyu 5.toonpipes 27.toonchicken3.bowburnmag 4.Beyethegreat
7.kk forever 11.Hadji
8.dan13
17.Geodiejayne 9.obafan
Sub-turkish mag ed speed nando
101 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Tom_Toon
You do know that the uproar was about more than just Keegan quitting don’t you?
If Keegan had quit because he couldn’t be arsed anymore than I doubt very much that the fans would be calling for Ashley to sell.
Fact is he was undermined by the board, and most normal people can understand why he had to quit.
102 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:34 PM
And not Shearer either cudnt think of a worse situation for him to come in . . SO STOP CALLING FOR HIM
103 Grae_NZ // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:34 PM
The light at the end of the tunnel is now….
a strobe!
Come on!
New management – New Manager – New Signings.
104 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:35 PM
No we dont need a manager that understands the place, we just a large part of fans to stop being idiots and give a manager that isnt a Geordie a chance.
105 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:35 PM
TT.
no it doesn’t:
-4 years at nufc first time, 3 years at city.Left fulham for england. WAS RIGHT TO LEAVE THIS TIME. never been sacked
-think we’ve covered this point (does winning a cup make you a class manager? because i could list a lot of managers who haven’t)..
. most successful nufc manager in recent history(you wouldn’t remember!)
- If he doesn’t perform as manager of the club,. he will get sacked.. and rightly so No one will have a problem with that. (he has never done any thing but a glorious job for this club)
non logic
106 Ashton // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Reappointing KK will be a huge mistake the guy lives in the past and i think these SA consortium want to invest in young players ” like MA ” so there is no point in appointing a manager who know’s shit about young talanted players
107 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM
SHEARER9 I can’t ustand why he had to quit . . Infact I can’t abide it . . Boils my p+ss . .
108 Ashton // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM
IMO
109 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM
TT
you had to have been there every week when you get the feeling before every game.
Before evry game i used to think….
“i wonder how many the lads will bang in today!”
Keegan can bring those days back if he was given the freedom to do it HIS way again
110 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Looks good Gainyu but WHO’S GON BE MANAGER?
111 ronaldeano // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Anyway, ive said my piece
Nite lads
112 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:40 PM
ganiyu thank you for signing me:)
113 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Keegan is from Doncaster Tom_Toon, he isn’t a geordie.
114 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM
RONALDENEO mate, I know what your thinkin but it aint possible again . . Have to let go son . . He canit handle it, nearly did him in last time . . Bit of pressure, things don’t go his way abd he will be off . . We cannit have that too unstable . .
115 ToonEskimo // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Ron, my two year old and 4 year old have just gone to bed, what time do you call this?
you on earlies or what?
116 Beatski // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Before evry game i used to think….
“i wonder how many the lads will bang in today!”
Keegan can bring those days back if he was given the freedom to do it HIS way again
—————————————-
I’m sure other managers could do it just as well, if not better
to swipe Xisco’s list;
1. hiddink (probably pipe-dream)
2. van gaal
3. rijkaard
4. terim
5. pellegrini (villarreal)
6. mancini
some people need to get over the ‘keegan or no-one’ opinion.
117 jules // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM
I have not heard anything of the Indian guy, Anil being linked with Everton. Could be good if he was in for us.
118 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:48 PM
5mins-Hadji send a low cross to geodiejayne but too slow to chase the ball
119 toonoot // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:49 PM
tom_toon@4@ The mackems did with old monkey heed!
120 Gordon // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Judging by the vote on this site, the majority of fans want KK back as manager.
I must admit I had thought that we might move on completely with a new owner and a new manager.
I do, however, think that there’s an awful lot of detrimental nonsense spoke about KK.
I think the man would make a decent manager so long as he doesn’t walk out again, which would be my worry.
121 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Ganiyu what position wil i play? when i go on?
122 Ado // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Shearer an idiot? b*llocks! He is destined to be a top class manager. If you have ever been lucky enough to be in his company, he has an air about him that screams of top class premiership manager. Forget his appearances on MotD where he is hamstrung by what he can and can’t say, he is the real deal.
I would love him to be our manager, he understands the club, the fans, the expectation and the city. Newcastle is unique, and many a decent manager has failed because they didn’t understand it all.
I would put my faith in Big Al every time, he is one of those people that are born winners. He doesn’t need to serve an apprenticeship at a lowly club, get him in now whilst he still has the pull with top players. The man is top drawer and one of us.
123 beaver nufc fan // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM
ive got a 3yr old son who is training with socatots which simon clifford stared.been going now for over a year and can do a lot of things 5yr olds carnt. if he where to come the skys the limit. check out http://www.socatots.co.uk
124 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM
dont want to p### on your parade ,but all the managers on this thread wouldn,t come here.
we,ve absolutley nothing to offer them,realistically we need a manager who knows the club .
alan shearer wont take it,too busy enjoying himself being a pundit.
poor sir bobby is too ill,for me the only person at this moment is keegan i,m afraid.
if kk does not fancy comming back,we might as well stick with joe.
125 neeraj // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM
that’s what my point is KK has a habit of walking away….
if the things do not work acc to him……
he has walked out on us for 2 times ……
england and man city
it’s time to move ahead and look for a new face, a totally new style of football…..
hiddink (won’t come)
zico
terim
126 beaver nufc fan // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:58 PM
check out http://www.socatots.com
127 beaver nufc fan // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM
check ouy http://www.icdfs.com
128 Ben // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM
KK is a Toon Legend but I wouldn’t want him back as a manager. Yes he started to coach out the negative and long ball game BF Sam had instilled but I don’t think he could attract the top players or has the contacts any more.
My choice would be the Sven the Swedish Snake. He has a proven track record in Club and International football. He has won titles, cups and European competitions. Plays OK football, really good with the right players. He would also convince Owen to stay at the club.
Just one bad thing. I’m sure he talked about Shola playing for England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Suppose you can’t get everything right
129 murvar // Oct 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM
The Third Coming is coming, boys! Get ready! This time next year all you Doubting Thomases will be eating your words. You are clearly too young and too full of a belief that if it wasn’t conceived since the X-Factor came on TV it’s not worth a candle. Keegan doesn’t like young palyers – nonsense! Watson and Clark prospered under him. Quitter m- well we’ve knocked that on the head so many tomes but you don’t recognise principle and intergrity when you see it, probably bacause all you have known is Sky-inspired Premiership upitselfness. There is a better way based on class football, honourable people and excitement. Keegan knows a class palyer when he sees one, believe me. Your fetish for a foreign manager or Bruce or Moyes (and what have they won, exactly?) is mind-bogglingly inane. But cheer up – your education will be complete soon!
130 Sam // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:00 PM
How much money will we have to spend on transfers thats wot i want 2 know
131 jonny // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM
hey!if jfk does well but keegan ends up back regardless could we not have a double headed management team? double special kk’s lol
132 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM
about 75mil
133 ToonRich // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:02 PM
“Shearer is an idiot, he wants te job so he should go manage in the lower leagues first.”
———————————————————
Tom_Toon, why should Shearer have to go and manage at lower leagues first… I dont recall Keane managing before he took the Scum’derland job – and to be fair he’s doing ok!
(That is not me comparing A.S with Keane by the way!lol
)
134 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Once again, thanks Ganiyu
135 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM
You can just tell Keane was going to be a good manager.
136 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Keane is a good un, I like how he doesn’t give a toss about ‘big’ players with big ego’s and how he’s willing to drop them for being stupid, chimbonda for example.
137 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:07 PM
roy keane is not a good manager so far,if i was quinny i,d be pulling me hair oot the money he,s wasted.
138 ToonRich // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Are you guys saying Shearer cant do what Keane has done??
139 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM
I think he’s made quite a few half decent buys(malbranque, cisse on loan, Jones)
140 Toon Chicken // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Ganiyu – get GI Jayne off – move me upfield and i’ll stick it in the onion bag.
On a different note can’t beleive everyone is just turning a blind eye to the blatant racism.
N.I.G.N.O.G. – wtf – wake up people – there are more important issues then whether or not KK still wets the bed
141 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:09 PM
but those players arent producing
142 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:10 PM
A reckon Keegan would bring us Geordies what we want, just not yet.
I think he’ll have learned from the first Keegan era how we like our football to be played, a reckon he’ll also really want to give us what we’ve been longing for, a trophy!
143 KIZZA // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:11 PM
its official guys, ameobi is buying newcastle united
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv8WB07bJms
see for yourself in this exclusive report
144 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Bring in Rijkaard….or go for Roberto Martinez….Rijkaard = proven internationally…Martinez = the new Wenger and legend in the making
145 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Malbranque produces, Cisse on his day is class and scored tother day
and Jonesy once he’s fit will be canny too.
By no means am I backing Sunderland I just applaud a few of his cheap signings, I would of like Steed.
146 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:13 PM
aye granted he,s tough with players ,but that is also the arrogance and the ego of the man.
147 neeraj // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:14 PM
ameobi buying newcastle
using money hidden inside his butt…..
that’s the reason why he strolls, do not waste money
148 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:15 PM
the signings were not exactly cheap,had to pay 2 million to get cisse on loan.
149 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:15 PM
I have supported Barca my whole life…and hold Nufc very close to my heart….which is why I would love to see Rijkaard come in for NUFC….either him or Martinez….thoughts?
150 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM
ganiyu hows the team doing?
151 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Yeh I agree Skin D, he does come across quite arrogant,
but then again, look at Mourinho:)
152 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:17 PM
rijkaard has already knocked them back.
153 ende // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Might as well face it, it’s probably going to be Keegan. Those who don’t want him seem to be merely an outspoken minority.
154 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:19 PM
honestly dont see roy keane being a good manager,he,s no better than big sam style wise.
155 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:19 PM
ah murvar
some sense at last!
And if i hear ‘keegan is a quitter’ one more time!!!
what a load of propandous shit
156 Toon TARDIS // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:20 PM
NUFC has quite a track record of destroying the reputations of managers so why would Hiddink, Van Gaal, Rijkaard etc who all have huge pedigree risk coming to manage us. If we were in the top half of the league we would still have difficult job persuading the likes of those to come never mind being currently in a relegation scrap.
Sure there are people desperate to get a job like Newcastle but these are people like David O’Leary not people like Guus Hiddink.
157 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:21 PM
I think he’s destined for the Man u job.
Same with Shearer for us, that would be a good match.
Shearer vs Keane!!
158 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:21 PM
taylor is a legend in ees own back garden.
159 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:23 PM
yeah skin…and in mine
160 ToonRich // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Mag1Pie, Martinez could be a good call…if we cant get a high profile manager. He seems a very down-to-earth fella and is a good man manager as far as I can see.
Lol, how about Martinez with Big Al and #2!!
(Kidding)
161 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:25 PM
tardis this is why people think we,re deluded,in terms of players and managers.
we think because we get 52,000 through the gate,that somehow guarantees the creme de la creme are going to come here.
we need to cut our cloth accordingly,and build up slowly again over the next three or four years.
162 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Shearer9 where did you hear one of the guys was worth 8 billion?…you sure about that
163 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Because if that it is true then by my estimate we would be the second richest club in the premiership…after Man City…
164 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM
How much is Roman Abramovic?
165 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM
QUESTION=what do you think of steven taylor playing football?
ANSWER= it would be a good idea!!!
166 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM
MAG1PIE-what about chelsea?
167 I See a Bad Toon Risin' // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM
N.I.G.N.O.G – Newcastle Is Gonna Need mOre Goals
well best i could think of
168 Mag1Pie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Abramovich is worth 9 billion sterling….the South Africans together would be worth 16 billion if Shearer9 is right
169 KIZZA // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Shola Sticking With England – Sven & Platt Comment
Following a fresh approach from Nigeria for him to play for them, Newcastle United striker Shola Ameobi has confirmed that he is focused on making Sven’s England squad and will not be looking to swich National sides. Shola said:
“I have told Nigeria I’ve made my decision and am going to stick to it. Hopefully next season I can play enough for Newcastle United to impress him (Eriksson).”
Sven Goran Eriksson said:
“Shola Ameobi and Jermain Defoe have a real chance of getting into our squad. They are both fine young players and great prospects.”
David Platt added:
“If Shola recognises what he’s got, all hell could break loose.”
HA. WHAT EVER HAPPENED
170 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:30 PM
skin d
why is it funny to abuse the brightest product that has come out of our acadamy since lee clark?
He is ENGLAND u21 captain
and will be
NEWCASTLE UTD club captain
get behind the lad
171 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM
i’m off
ganiyu-tell me if i score!
172 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:33 PM
i see the the ku klux klan are oot the neet on comment 162.
F##K FASCISM BEFORE IT F##K,S YOU.
stay S.H.A.R.P.
SKINHEADS AGAINST RACIAL PREJUDICE.
173 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Taylor is a croq of shyte.
174 Nick C // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:35 PM
BNT, Taylor is usually crap and occasionally average. U must be related to him to rate him so highly.
175 Paul // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Oh FFS! You’re right about the knuckle dragging racists Toon Chicken!
176 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:35 PM
boots and braces dont make a racist,spirit of 1969.
177 toonjon // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:37 PM
TOM TOON r u saying that u dont like shearer or keegan cause if that is true u r an A$$.
Point Made!
178 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:40 PM
skin d
shut up yeh?
This blog gets too many looneys
179 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:40 PM
well am away te git bladdered,goodnight and f##k the lot of ya.
180 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:40 PM
TT,
tell that to:
Sir bobby robson
Wenger,
Souness,
Jose Morinho,
Keegan,
Alladice,
Sven,
Shearer,,
Capello,
Stuart Pearce,
Joe Kinnear,
mclaren,
hughton,
All of whom have advocated his abilities, or picked him in a starting eleven.
But obviously tom toon sitting in his bedroom furiously flicking through his panini album, looking for some untapped talent… knows better
181 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:41 PM
dan you misunderstand me i am an anti racist what is wrong with that.
182 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:41 PM
HAHA
that Panini album actually made me laugh:D
183 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM
nick c
see above
184 shearer9 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Mapg1Pie, I’m not sure, just seen it on another message board.
185 I See a Bad Toon Risin' // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM
skin d, n*gnog is totally different from N.I.G.N.O.G.
hence why i’m trying to inject some humour
186 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Arr right soz mate,
my misunderstanding
187 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:43 PM
dan 13 youngun,s these days haven,t got a clue.
188 vic // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:44 PM
5% stake in a club is just around 10m which is less than we paid for MO or Colo who needs to proof yet they price.
King Kev deserve at least 15%
I think THE MANAGER should be automaticaly included in the Board to be part of the major decisions in the Club
Welcome back Kevin
189 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:44 PM
lol
well i’m against it too
just when you said skinheads and all that
I misread
190 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:46 PM
the true skinhead movement was never about racism ,and has it,s roots in jamaican ska music.
the skinhead subculture is one of the oldest and multicultural movements ever.
191 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:47 PM
They still have skinhead societys etc though
like in some part in Germany or something
like a continued nazi thing.
192 skin d // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:49 PM
most skinheads are not racist,and the nazi,s who think they are are not,we call them boneheads.
dan 13 get yourself an album by the oppressed and listen to anti facsist oi at it,s best.
193 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Anyways….
Hope this takeover happens
194 murvar // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Good conversation about the Toon situation – led by a journo Toon fan – in today’s Soccernet Podcast at
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?context=podcast&id=3621753
our bit starts after about 56 minutes so fast forward it. The rest of it’s OK too – the Euro week plus a Serie A section in the middle, then a preview of the weekrnd’s premiership games incl ours.
195 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:50 PM
IMO
giving keegan a stake of the club.. is a winner for everyone..
that stakeholding will be tied into a agreement of finishing whateve lenth contract he signs.. and no doubt once that tenure is finished, he will go upstairs and take a excecutive position.
No one can doubt that he only wants the best for nufc.. and operating the club as manager and then a continued influence can only be a good thing.
It also speaks volumes about the prospective owners, who seem more than willing to establish some stability into the club.. target a long term plan rather than short term success
196 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:50 PM
tell that to:
Sir bobby robson – what else is he gonna say?
Wenger, – why ask him?
Souness, – complete mug
Jose Morinho, – praise from one good game
Keegan, – past it and what else is he gonna say?
Alladice, – what does that fat mug know?
Sven, – why ask him?
Shearer,, – what else is he gonna say?
Capello, – why?
Stuart Pearce, – complete idiot
Joe Kinnear, – just saying it to build up confidence
mclaren, – complete idiot
hughton, – what does he know about managing?
197 john // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM
they ALL know a lot lot more than you ever will about football tom toon
198 Nick C // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Well BNT they obviously don’t watch the useless tw@t week in week out like me.
If your definition of legend is
“diving in”
“passing the ball 2 yards to a teammate and then telling him where to pass it”
“Losing your man”
“Giving away goals”
“Dancing in a slightly homo erotic manner with a Senagalese team mate”
Oh yeah, “clapping the crowd” and “being a sort of Geordie”
Then he is a proper hero mate….
199 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:54 PM
John youve hit the nail of the head!
Tom, you seem to have lost a lot of credibility on here mate, I always used to find some of your posts interesting yet you’ve changed and became more kinda ‘agressive’.
200 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM
FFS TOM
have some respect. all very wealthy men who have made a successful career out of football at the top level.
they didn’t get there and stay there by knowing nothing.. or being ‘complete idiots’
You make yourself look more childish, and more ignorant on every post.
you have been found out,. and lost all credability.
now get to bed it’s a school night
201 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Ganiyu…..Hook me up with GeordieJayne upfront and i’ll score a hattrick
202 Toon Chicken // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:57 PM
BNT – most, if not all of those have said similar things about Shola Ameobi.
Emile Heskey has been praised by ex-pro’s/pundits/managers throughout his career.
I like Taylor and really hope he comes good. He has been absolute gash of late though and needs to seriously buck his ideas up. I think a couple of weeks out of the first team would do him good. He believes too much of his own hype I feel.
203 Nick C // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Bore off, BNT.
204 murvar // Oct 2, 2008 at 9:59 PM
BNT – keep it going, mate! Taylor is one of our great hopes for the future and he is still learning (and there’s nothing wrong with that – the best players always want to learn more) and he may be going through a bad patch but that happens – and good players do not become bad players overnight. He will come out of it with our support – and when he is played in his proper position and plays regularlyy alongside Colo who is a class act. Get off Tayl’s back! Encourage him and the others!
205 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Nick c
I watch him every week..
Again he is england u21 captain
and will be nufc captain
he’s had a couple of poor games.. but lets be honest.. who is playing well at the moment?
there is enough talent there for him to be starting centre half for last three seasons.. he makes the odd mistake. he’s 22.
206 Nick C // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I’m sorry. I would like him to be good, but sometimes u just have to face facts. 22 is not a total bairn. He has never trained on.
Face it.
207 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Taylor has been crap for 2 years.
If he is the future for of us we may aswell go into administration.
208 Toon_Phil // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
All the signs look good, i trust them more than the nigerians, they seem to have more money, and as said here if they are willing to give KK that kind of money straight away just to get him back, imagine what our transfer budgets could be.
Perhaps the ‘bottomless pits’ of cash we were supposed to get under Ashley,
Lets have a real go in the summer for top players like man city did and see what next season has to offer, this season is yet again another re-building season but with keegan, martins and gutierrez back with south africans leadin us it could be a better middle and end to our season.
I just wish it would happen before the derby
Cant see us beatin the mackems but heres hopin!
209 DH7 MAGS // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
whoever comes in and whoever manages the club will need more than 75 million to turn this team around. its rubbish. we have a little bit of quality and nothing else. given, quality, beye, quality, side show bob, quality, owen, quality, martins, quality that is it. the rest are just average premier league players, so it is going to take a hell of a lot more than 75m, more like 150 mill. This is how crap we are, spuds, bottom of the league walked all over us for gods sake.
210 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Taylor has also got to be the dumbest defender in the world! He has no brain!
211 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM
chicken..
understood, many of us have bigged up young players for them simply to stop progressing.. but IMO i think it’s his attitude and willinness to learn that sets him apart from the like of strolla
but look at it on the other hand.. how many of you/us labels plyers a crock of shit? only for them to perform elsewhere..?
e.g Sylvian DUSTPIN
212 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM
34mins-Penalty given toon chicken made an unprofessional tackle on a getafe striker.his brother toon pipes hangs his head with shame.
Gk hitman must be ready for the spot kick.goal he sends hitman to the wrong place.1-0
213 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM
dustBin
214 Turkish magpie // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM
bring me on! i wont make careless fouls
215 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM
unlike Cacapa eh tom? your hero!
he’s awesome!
216 Toon Chicken // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I always liked Dustbin.
I do think we are too quick to criticise, whether it be players, managers or even owners. Everyone’s different and some people take longer to adjust and adapt than others – a lot of our fans don’t seem to be willing to give those who take longer the time they need. I suppose that is born out of the frustration of not winning anything for longer than I can remember. Don’t think that should be an excuse though.
217 Toon Chicken // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Ganiyu, whether or not I made a professional foul or not is debatable, but I can assure you beyond all doubt that mr toonpipes is not by brother.
218 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Cacapa has an exceedingly good football brain and is very quick, both unlike Taylor.
However Cacapa is probably too weak for the prem.
219 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:15 PM
42mins-It looks like kk forevers leg has been broken.he collided wit a getafe player.turkish mag is warming up on the side line.i just hope he can cross the ball cos he would move to the right wing.Beye the great is doing his possible best to dictate the tempo of the game.dan13 is giving away possession easily.free kick to the harrison fc.Hadji is about to take this set piece….
220 Irish John // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Cacapa is a liability
221 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:16 PM
very quick?
Who are you kidding?
222 bowburnmag // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Tom_Toon – I’m still yet to see this pace from Cacapa. If he’s quick then he does a bloody good job of hiding it and/or not using it to maximum effect. There must be something there considering his career but I’ve not been convinced so far. One thing is for sure, he’s no central midfielder!!
223 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:18 PM
lol possesion easily
224 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:19 PM
agreed chicken
Or maybe we are just scared of being mugged off by expensive foreign flops..
Centre half is a wierd position though.. other than woogate (when fit) i can’t think of one thats played for us recently and been wholly rated by fans..
The centre half relys on the organisation of the rest of the side, rather than simply individual ability.. e.g tracking back of wingers to stop the cross..
they are only as good as the side they are in.. i mean even Bramble and O brian have looked like top centre backs last few games
225 Irish John // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:19 PM
bowburnmag thereasonhe hadsuch a good career was becauseheplayed with the almighty Lyon …Boumsong is developing a cracking career there also…..French league is a mickey mouse league
226 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:20 PM
http://www.skysports.com/socceram/story/0,21644,13871_3080145,00.html
say Cacapa is very quick and Taylor is very dumb.
227 Irish John // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:20 PM
can’t remember Capacapa having a good football brain against pompey last year…he looked more like a retard
228 Irish John // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Forrest gump was quick..enough said
229 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Irish John – He was injured v Pompey.
230 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Argh wasted effort.the ball flies out the stadium.mr Cashley is enjoying some cheese burger and icecream.doesnt look bothered.injury time
231 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I know for a fact he’s not fast
232 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
ha ha ha
TT
I can’t beleive what you just said!
and equally can’t beleive that your still advocating him!
He’s officially the slowest and most lumbersome player i’ve ever seen, and also the most un-creative central midfielder since nick butt (actually thats doing butt a diservice)
He’s plays more backwards balls than hull kr,
And thats from watching live tom, not 5 minutes on motd.
Don’t get me wrong.. i’m not disputing he has/had something.. because he’s had a great career.. but h’way man.. he’s poor!
233 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I know for a fact he is.
234 Dan13 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Tom you’ve turned to a right tosser
235 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM
tt have your ever watched a game..
or do yo do your research watching socceram after your paper round?
236 Irish John // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM
question is..would Cacapa get a game for any club in the top 7 …Very much doubt it…
He would’nt even improve our reserves
237 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Cacapa is a squad player, and doesn’t think he merits a place in the first 11, Taylor does but isnt good enough.
I dont watch socceram, i dont have sky and i work sometimes in a restaurant as a waiter, i dont have a paper round.
238 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM
so it just is motd that you base your infinate knowlage on then?
239 jules // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:37 PM
If KK has a stake in the club he is less likely to walk out, maybe a good way of tying him to us.
240 simon376 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:38 PM
murvar, great to see you put some sense into this and some good coments from others too.
What really drives me mad is when people say “the game has moved on” As far as I know, when I watch a game of football, 11 men play against 11 men and try to put the ball in the net more times than the other 11. Where is the big change in the game apart from the amount of subs used and on the bench? Yes there is more money in the game, but clubs make more money now so they can spend more if they need too.
So please tell me how the game has changed so much fro when Keegan was here in the 90′s and if the game was any differnt before then, like when football clubs first started?
241 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM
No, I watch us live or on the comp.
242 jules // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Anyone given any thought to the fact KK’s legal action against NUFC may hold up or impact on the sale of the club ?
243 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:50 PM
si
good post.
The game is the same.. 442. 433.451.. one ball
11 v 11
the only thing that has changed is fitness levels.
Jules.. who say’s kk is taking legal action?
244 TOONPIPES // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Murvar aint bringing owt but a point of contention masked as a gentlemans quip , I’m proud of him . . He’s coming on leaps and bounds. .
245 Xsico golden boot // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Steven Taylor will be a top CH he is a young lad who has been put in when he was to young bob moncur rates him and he calls a spade a spade Irember Rio Ferdinand used to drop a few clangers when he was young another thing all the crap defenders he has played with and been left to look more exposed when infact the defence has been elsewhere anyone who calls shearer is not toon fan the man is a legend and his knowledge in football is brilliant says who anyone in football ask them
246 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM
ahh toonpipes how i missed your poor misguided opinions tonight
fill ya boots mate
247 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM
2nd half-60mins Ganiyu is making way for ed speed.turkish youngster moves to the full back.Beye the great moves to the right wing and ed speed would have to work with the former leeds united kid.
248 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM
xcisco.. well said bud
however it’s all irrelevant because tt nick etc know more than, moncur and shearer.. and anyone else that knows about football.. we’ve just got to learn to accept it!
249 simon376 // Oct 2, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Thanks BNT
Speaking of fitness levels and all our injuries, I once heard a story (dont know how true it is) that one of the coaches at the club (not a big name guy) wrote a letter to Shepard saying something about the training ground, turf on top of concrete or something like that and thats why players get so many strains etc. Shepard apparently told him where to go. Wonder if there’s some truth in that
250 Xsico golden boot // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Or BNT maybe they need to watch more football because there comments seem more made up than tribal football
251 cape toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM
lets hope these guys dont buy any south african players… the caliber of football in this country is terrible!
252 Ganiyu // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:07 PM
73mins-long short by getafe as they dominate this game corner.geodiejayne makes way for murvar.ed harrison defenders av been a big disaster tonight.Hadji joins obafan up front
253 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM
well it seems to make a bit of sense.. Achilles injuries are generally down to inpact.. as are back injuries (woodgate, dyer, given, etc)
But we didn’t always have the problm.. how long have we been in the new traing facility?
254 normski1930z // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:19 PM
alreet lads whats the crack the neet???
255 simon376 // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Think we have been there for about 6 or 7 years now.
256 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:32 PM
see forster’s gone out on loan..
good luck to him,. i’ll be adding stockport to my accumulator’s every week
257 simon376 // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Hope the lad does well there.
I’m off to bed, night every one
258 Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Taylor needs to go out on loan when Kadar is fit.
259 normski1930z // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM
reet lads av just been on the phone to me brother who lives in south africa(outside durban) and he reckons the combined wealth of these guys will be somewhere in the region of 14 to 19 billion pounds….so heres hoping lads that they will buy the club….
260 Neville Brewis // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Hi Neville here- I am back after my cataracts op. I can see colours now that I have not seen for years! It is great to get this new lease of life. Just a shame my true love NUFC are hard to watch. Hope all you bloggers are keeping well.
261 Big Dave // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Hi Neville glad to hear u r all sorted now i suppose its brill seeing thinks in colour again and you never now maybe the Toon will get sorted very soon then they will become nice to watch again.
262 legends 1892 // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Sorry boys I’m so depressed/confussed i’ve taken to full time drinking, anyone wanna join me? It take the edge of a little!!
263 Neville Brewis // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Thanks big Dave ! I echo your sentiments about the toon. Hopefully we can now pick up and move on.
264 Big Dave // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
normski i have been looking up about these guy’s for the last couple of days and they seem to be a big success with everything they are involved in.and I honestly believe that money wont really be a big problem plus i think they would make good owners. But then being a long suffering Toon fan maybe it is just that you learn to be so optimistic lol
265 Big Dave // Oct 2, 2008 at 11:58 PM
legends 1892 // Oct 2, 2008 at 23:51
mate I’m so depressed/confussed i’ve been thinking of becoming a full time glue sniffer. lol
266 domtoon // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM
good luck kinnear, but i think we all know he isn’t good enough. i’m turning very pessimistic these days. bring back keegan. he should NEVER have been allowed to leave. why the HELL did ashley pick wise over the king. so silly. so stupid. now he’s paying for it, and so are we.
the only way we’re going to sort this god aweful mess out is if our club is sold to rich owners and a good manager (yes, i want KK back as first choice, the man is a fecking LEGEND, but any other top class manager will do….) brought in. leave it too long and we will fall down the table and our top players (ASSETS WORTH VALUE) will leave, and then it’s goodbye premier league, hello championship.
ARGHHHHHH WHY HAVE WE FALLEN THIS FAR!???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
the number of times i have the p*** ripped out of me per day for supporting the black and whites is nearly unbearable. we NEED to sort this out asap and anyone who thinks otherwise (in terms of keeping kinnear) is severely disillusioned. as per nufc.com, nothing but help short of biblical proportions is going to save us from relegation. we’re 2nd from bottom, and there is no hope in sight unless ashley goes and a TOP manager brought in.
our father…who art in heaven…hallowed be thy name…………
267 The Lighthouse Keeper // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I am on with Gareth tonight, it will be 3 months until I go home . Just me and him , he is on sleep duties now. My turn in 3 hours, my spirits are lifted somewhat as he is not talking to me. Radio 5 on Sunday and I will listen to the match. It is getting choppy out there now. Be safe lads of the waters.
268 normski1930z // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM
big dave what i stated isnt a fact mate its just what me brother reckons coz he lives in south africa but everytime i have asked him about these ppl he keeps bringing up that the rupert family are well in with the rothchilds coz they own loads of diamond mines in sa(thats where he works over there) and they have shares in these mines…..make of that what you will…
269 peter grigio // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Chaps- good luck with the game against the Everton. My tip this week is a nice quaffable red from M&S in the £10 meal deal. Italian Nero D’ Avola, fruity and as my best mate Piers would say a KD.
270 matt(the original) // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
BILL, posted a bit ago but you seem like the type to grab a pint with!! im still laughing.
271 peter grigio // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Can I offer a thought about the SA bid chaps? They appear to be renowned for rescuing companies. If it is indeed these chaps mentioned, they do not throw money at ventures! They sustain and refloat, I would be very suprised if they would be any different than Ashley. It is now a common business practice, usually used by Indian entrepreneurs. Remember IT IS BUSINESS! I hope for you chaps it is not the way. Please realise the credit crunch hits all, Ashley will never make a profit in this climate. He may say he has but……. then again he says very little. Good luck.
272 Killy Mans Giro // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:21 AM
I hav bouht a season ticet from my disabilty berefits. Thanx tax pays oot thre.
273 clever-toon-lad // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Tom_Toon u cant use keegan quitting as a reason for not wanting him back because both fergie and wrenger (the 2 best managers in the world) said he was right to walk and that they wud have done the same in his situation. As would prob every prem league manager so if u mention that again u r nt jst having a go at KK but also the 2 best managers in the world!
274 clever-toon-lad // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:26 AM
There shudn’t be so much gloom and doom because we know now that in a few weeks we will have ambitious new owners and a new manager. there will be no more uncertainty and newcastle will seem like a good club to be at. So lets just get behind the lads and joe and ride it out for few more weeks and it will turn out just fine
275 legends 1892 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Dave, glue is not the answer, drink is far more enjoyable!!
276 toonoot // Oct 3, 2008 at 1:33 AM
You sound a bit stuck mate. Licking stamps used to do it for me (by gum)
277 Dondatta13 // Oct 3, 2008 at 1:52 AM
TT, Sour grapes your spouting there kidda, sorry.
You missed it, The heady days under KK’s 1st reign, the electricity running, coursing through the players, club, city.
By the sound of it your very bitter, So much hate for the likes of KK and Shearer, It simpley smacks of resentment …. Watched it on DVD indeed lol ….
278 mikeygd // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:05 AM
ed can u block tom toons comments becuase everytime i read the blog all i see is his stupid lil comments to the point where im starting to read other blogs where that morons not talking crap 24/7
279 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:14 AM
Always open to debate but this blog is increasingly turning into a childs effort at offending all who wish to voice their own valid opinions.
No wonder I end up posting late at night….. oh and lets not forget the racist comments too… is there any need for all this on such a fine blog and before you know it Ed will call it a day and we’ll all be left without a voice.
No wonder so many regulars have disappeared.
280 Tom_Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:21 AM
mikeygd – good. you dont like contrasting opinions, just shows what a sheep/illogical person you are.
ObaFan2 – I dont quite understand your point, there is not many people ‘offending’ each other on this thread or many others to be honest.
Where are the racist comments, ‘bru’?
281 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:29 AM
Again showing you’re ignorance, try comments 65,79 and 169 for starters but as you believe (TT) the world revolves around you that I was insinuating that you had been racist, you touched on racism today but not as much as you’re anti China rant the other week.
I can quite confidently say that certain people on here are chasing alot of regular and interesting bloggers away.
282 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:34 AM
I must admit though TT, you were man enough to apologise for certain things you posted about China and Chinese people.
283 Tom_Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Yes, they could be called racist, but not in my opnion.
I replied as I am the only person to be called a racist (wrongly) on this thread.
And since when do I think the world revolves around me, dont be such a tool.
284 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 2:46 AM
Ok so Shearer and Kk are idiots and so are many bloggers according to you and I’m a tool, grow up, you are offending so many loyal fans who’ve had season tickets for decades and you cannot see past your nose.
I find it hard to believe you are the same Tom_Toon who has posted here for a long time.
285 clinta // Oct 3, 2008 at 3:14 AM
Well wil just see what happens huh? it wasn’t too long ago everyone, especially you ed, were chuffed at a new owner called MA!
286 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 3:36 AM
This is an interesting read, imo.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba … tball.html
Yet despite the universal derision being heaped at Newcastle’s door, an undeniable fact is emerging from the smoke generated by Mike Ashley’s fire sale: the club remain an attractive investment attracting genuine interest.
Since Ashley announced his intention to sell the club on Sept 14 several overseas investors have expressed serious interest in becoming the club’s third owners in 16 months. (The anonymous Nigerian consortium fronted by Chris Nathaniel, an agent who handles media rights for Rio Ferdinand and John Terry among others, is not among them despite their claim, refuted by sources with knowledge of the negotiations, to have lodged a £300 million bid last week.)
Yesterday the seven genuine bidders received a sales prospectus detailing the club’s financial position from Seymour Pierce, the investment bankers engaged to handle the sale, having signed confidentiality agreements.
Inside Sport understands that the document sets out details of a club who, thanks to Ashley’s investment, are far healthier than the debt-laden unprofitable hulk he walked into last summer.
The audit reveals Newcastle are debt-free apart from an overdraft that fluctuates in line with the receipt of season-ticket income. They also own their own stadium and training facilities as well as significant commercial property holdings in the city.
The prospectus values the squad at about £100 million, and crucially for the medium term, despite the frantic transfer activity of the last two seasons, the club are owed more in transfer fees than they are scheduled to pay out. The new owners will also have access to the £50 million overdraft facility that is not subject to a change-of-control clause.
Add the fact that Ashley is, in the apposite euphemism employed by one City analyst, a “distressed seller”, and there is every chance that the eventual buyer may consider they have a bargain.
Having distributed their assessment of the club’s real financial position, Seymour Pierce will now await valuations from potential buyers in what is effectively a sealed-bid auction.
Contrary to reports circulating, no target figure has been set.
Having spent £134 million buying the club and another £110 million in clearing debts, he will be hoping for a figure north of £250 million, and his advisers are confident that will be achieved. That said, Ashley is unlikely to achieve anything like the £400 million-plus price-tag mooted when the ‘For Sale’ signs went up.
The club are a proven source of revenue, generating close to £90 million in the year to June 2007 and returning a modest profit of £3.5 million, a figure that is said to have increased marginally in the first full year under Ashley’s control.
That said, a reduction in the huge wage bill, which accounted for close to 70 per cent of income last year, will be a priority for any new owner.
Should Ashley walk away with any sort of profit from his disastrous tenure he will doubtless be pilloried, but he will not be the first millionaire to enrich himself courtesy of Newcastle United.
Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall, who used the club to drive their vision of the “Geordie Nation”, earned more than £36 million from sales of shares, salaries and dividends during their time at the club, and Sir John received £55 million from Ashley for his 41 per cent share last year.
Former chairman Freddy Shepherd and the company run by his son, Douglas Shepherd Offshore, meanwhile, were paid more than £10 million in wages, share sales and dividends during their time at the club, and accepted £37 million of Ashley’s fortune for their 28 per cent when they handed over the keys to St James’ Park.
As these figures demonstrate, the problem at Newcastle has never been generating income, but ensuring that it gets ploughed back into the club.
287 The Entertainers // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Good article in the Telegraph, but hardly news to most Newcastle fans.
We suffered for years under the Halls and Sheppards, when they would take crazy ‘wages’ out of the club. Then 2 of the idiots decided to have a go at the club, players and fans during an ‘undercover’ interview.
Now we have Mike doing the best for the club! By taking 50 million with him. Thats 50 million NOT earned imo and 50 million that would certainly help our currently depleted squad.
I never look over at our rivals Boro with any great effection, but do have a certain envy towards their owner, Mr Gibson.
Whoever eventually takes over from us, will undoubtedly have their business first and the club second. But while this certainty is not want the fans want, it is common place in football now and most clubs are run as business first and sporting clubs second. But that doesnt mean it cant work, it doesnt mean the club cant benefit from the business!
Whilst hoping the clubs come first may be too much to ask for, lets just pray the new owners will have a more professional balanced approach, where both sides benefit.
288 Ageordiedoonsooth // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Tom_Toon you are the most annoying prat on here. You know nowt about football and have obviously never played the game or been involved in it at any level.
289 AltaBatalJoneN // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Well, well, well….
SKJELBRED impresses in UEFA-cup again, and become man-of-the-match for the “don’t-kno-how-many-times-in-a-row” now!!!
Pity he isn’t playing for us.. It also says in the newspapers today that he was so close to becomming a Newcastle player in the summer, before we pulled the plug!!!
I love Kevin K, but he has to open his mind for young talented players if he comes back.
290 GoesseN // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:09 AM
tom_toon….
since when where SOUTH AFRICANS able to talk in a Jamaican/London Slang Accent????
“Tom_Toon // Oct 2, 2008 at 18:37
‘Hey bru, Meesta Kevin Keegin, we give you a 5% stake in the club mun, please manage us bru”
your forgetting the south africans talk like the dutch do when they speak english…
very un-educated bunch of blokes scouring these message boards!
291 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Can i just say that transcript of the first Joe Kinnear press conference on NUFC.COM is f ucking hilarious .. go have a look … im likingthis guy MORE AND MORE every day .. Haway Joe get the lads gannin and weeell tek alll comers … TON AARMMMMMMMMMMMY
292 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:28 AM
AND by the way, it seams to me that certain journalists should take a bit of a hiding for their misrepresentation of the facts coming out of St James park .. wouldnt mind finding out a little bit more about this bloke .. Simon Bird and the other bloker Hickman .. anyone know which paper they write for ? ..
293 The Entertainers // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Simon Bird – Daily Mirror
Neil Hickman – Express
Prceless Joe, priceless!
This man has won me over with his off field tactics only hope hes as good on the field.
When Keegan comes back, can we have Kinnear as our press officer!
294 samd // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:42 AM
fool proof plan::
Chairman: Chris Mort
Manager: KK
Assistant: John Carver
Offensive coach: Alan Shearer
Defensive coach: Chris Houghton
295 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:46 AM
PIPES – It’s unbelievable. One more thing to be used against him and us though, unfortunately. Probs have to give the guy respect for coming out and standing up for himself but some of it was a little over-the-top. Surely at his age he knows how to play them? Also I’m a little concerned he’s saying a lot before he’s done anything. Timing might be wrong for this. He’d probably have been advised to get a few points under his belt with a few improved performances before his rant. Read new prospective headline “Newcastle lose again as Joe loses the plot”…..or some other insidious comments.
296 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:49 AM
I notice all this “£450m price tag” bull sh!t has been proved to be complete bollox also.
297 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:51 AM
bowburn – I think the point has been made that whether JK or anyone else at the clubs chooses to speak to press or to say nothing – the slimey feckers will still write what they want anyway.
298 The Entertainers // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:01 AM
On the Daily Mirror website, you can hear the whole press conference on audio.
Makes great listening…..
299 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:01 AM
morning lads…so it looks like these blokes could be our new owners,i like the idea of getting this bloke in, Brazilian soccer expert Simon Clifford as technical director,sounds good.
300 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:08 AM
is he the bloke that brought Socrates to Garforth Town?
301 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:09 AM
forgot to say morning, hitman.
how very rude of me.
Good morning to you sir.
302 wilo // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM
tom toon and toon chicken are mackems and they no they are always slagging keegan and shearer off the pair of you are a bunch of muppets get of this sight no mackems allowed go back to sunderland where you come from..
303 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I see Seymour Pierce have confirmed what a lot of us “Ashley b*mmers” had suspected all along…
That Ashley has done a hell of a lot of good for the club – completely debt-free, an overdraft facility that works within the annual income of the club, more money owed to the club on outgoing transfers than incoming, full ownership of the ground and a substantial land and property portfolio.
No one can say what they future may have brought with Ashley at the helm – I think we can safely assume we would have been royally fooked had Shepherd been steering the good ship NUFC through the stormy waters of the credit crunch.
Just hope these new owners share Ashley’s vision for stability and don’t run up huge debts and then do one!
304 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM
TC – yeah fair point. It’s just I’ve got predominantly Mackems and Cockneys sitting here laughing their nuts off at it. More opportunity for mirth but admittedly it is funny if a little misdirected at times.
305 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Morning Lads,just read some sad news!!
Johan Rupert has DENIED being interested in the MIGHTY TOON
So where does this leave The South African Bid i wonder??? FFS MAN
306 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM
comments not working?
307 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM
westoon – he denied interest on wednesday – don’t think it’s anything new
308 Richard // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:20 AM
KEEP JOE!!!!
309 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:20 AM
sorry if this has posted 3 times already but it’s not allowing me to post it for some reason:
I see Seymour Pierce have confirmed what a lot of us “Ashley botters” had suspected all along…
That Ashley has done a hell of a lot of good for the club – completely debt-free, an overdraft facility that works within the annual income of the club, more money owed to the club on outgoing transfers than incoming, full ownership of the ground and a substantial land and property portfolio.
No one can say what they future may have brought with Ashley at the helm – I think we can safely assume we would have been royally fcuked had Shepherd been steering the good ship NUFC through the stormy waters of the credit crunch.
Just hope these new owners share Ashley’s vision for stability and don’t run up huge debts and then do one!!!
310 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:21 AM
where did you read that westoon
311 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM
hitman – it was mentioned in the Chronicle on Wednesday.
I’m not sure if it has any bearing on the deal going through. I don’t think the identities of all the consortium members had been confirmed anyway – it was just assumed this Rupert bloke would be one of them. There again there have been all sorts of daft rumours flying round about secret police, diamond smugglers, hidden gold bullion and the rothschild family fortune.
312 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM
TC – few would argue that we’re better of financially and we have to be grateful for that part of it. But you have to accept that some of us see that as being as a result of Ashley looking after his own interests as much as anything else. Not out of the kindness of his heart for the beloved NUFC. But we’d also argue that currently he’s undoing that good work with the mess at the moment, lack of income included and thus damaging his healthy financial plans.
313 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:35 AM
@ hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:21
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601102&sid=aJL7wapmlvhQ&refer=uk
Theres the link mate!!
314 JJ // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Still dont believe Rupert is behind this… more likely to be someone like Patrice Motsepe who owns Sundowns in South Africa…
Tom Toon,
Interesting take on the South African accent…
Except most Natalians say “bru”. Those of us who are from Joberg will say “bro”
And please dont call Shearer an idiot. He was 70% the reason why Roeder had such a good record as manager.
One day he would be the perfect candidate.
Keegan never managed before his first stint but did fantastically well then…
Keane has done well… Southgate… etc…
Shearer has the respect, the passion and knows the club inside out.
I think he has a god eye for players too… he wanted Klose as a strike partner and to me Klose is probably the most intellegent striker in the game today.
Ps. Taylor will come good. You are contantly critical of him yet Coloccini has been far from impressive and neither has the rest of the side.
They are all low on confidence and confidenceis huge in sport.
315 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM
bowburn – yes, of course any good he does for the club is going to benefit him – directly or indirectly. Although judging from what some people have said it would seem a lot assume money for season tickets etc. goes directly in to his personal current account.
316 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM
@ Toon Chicken
Brian Gilbertson is the guy you are thinking of who denied it on wednesday NOT Johan Rupert,who has just come out and denied his involvment
317 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM
someone has put this on another site i go on,dont no if its true or just made up sh1te,i’l let yous be the judge…Ashley is getting prepared to sell Newcastle to Mr Trung Dung and his consortium, which can now be named. It contains Mr Hoang Kieu of the RAAS Group and Truong Gia Binh, Chairman and CEO of FPT. They have put a bid of £350 Million in and Ashley will sell it to them. Whilst all three want a hands on role Trung will be the public face of the group as he is putting in the most cash. Lee Sinnott has been at St James’ Park today to talk things over with Kinnear and both Kinnear and Sinnott have had contact with Dung’spokesman Kien Pham. Kein has also contacted Keegan but it seems like Sinnott will be the main man. But if Kinnear does flop then Keegan has been put on alert by Dungs people. Kev does want to return to work with Sinnott and is pleased with Trungs vison for the club (as is the board). Trungs announcement should come tomorrow and Newcastle should put out a statement by the end of the week end.
318 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Toon Chicken – surely the money owed to us from transfers exceeding the money we owe to other clubs is down to Shepherd and his regime? But Ashley made such a big fuss of how much money we owed, clearly pulling the wool over supporters eyes as to how the club was previously managed.
319 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM
@ JJ // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:35
Howzit bro,nice to see some fellow Joburgers on here,except that i still call my mates “bru” & “bro” but yes i agree in the main!! People from Durbs are like “Hey Nooit bru”,hahahah!!
320 steve // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Funny – http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague
Not sure how this is going to help toon tho
321 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:43 AM
TC – no, surely it goes straight on red 12?
322 Punk Skunk // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Thoroughly enjoyable rant by JK at the rancid rags!..
…Up their collective arses!..
…Aboot time!..
323 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM
westoon – no mate – not my mistake.
“When contacted by the Chronicle, a spokesman said neither Richemont nor Mr Rupert were interested in buying Newcastle United.”
Don’t mean to sound arsey but I try and make a point of getting my facts straight before I post anything. Full story here – from Wednesdays Chronicle…
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/10/01/keegan-to-be-offered-newcastle-united-stake-72703-21938909/
324 The Entertainers // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I think Ashley’s legacy is yet to be written and over time the good he may have done the club will come out, just not while hes in charge.
But his tenure has shown one thing, the man may be a brilliant business man, but not a football owner / chairman.
Mike stick to running cold hearted businesses, football is as much about passion and heart as it is about the cold hearted cash, the two can mix but only with the right leadership.
325 Toon Graeme // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Morning lads and lasses of the blog.
Just a change of subject from this one.
Did anyone catch Everton going out the UEFA cup last night?
This could do one of two things – knock their confidence or make them come back on Sunday with one hell of a performance.
I hope its the first option.
Kinnear doesnt hold back in his press conferences, but action need to be told on the pitch on Sunday becuase the press will hang him and us if we loose.
3 point needed – COME ON TOON!!!
326 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Morning TC / Bowburn … alreet .. Hitman .. noo … loved Gainyus patter last night about the match .. very funny .. i dont mind JK losing his rag, shows he cares … appreciate that he mebs shud have made sure he had his answers lined up but bottom line to come out and call that bloke a c*** straight off is priceless ……. MA will have sorted us out financially we SHOULD be attractive investment sadly right now nee one will buy OWT cos thers nee money anyware, so the MOB (STRICLTY a term of affection for those generally oposed to my views – i love you all) shud get used to MA being around a little longer – this also the reason why JK not sure how long hes going to be around as every day a sale becomes less likely…
327 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM
No need to get so deffensive there Toon Chicken!!
My bad i made a mistake,jeez get over yourself mate
328 Punk Skunk // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:53 AM
NUFC…Press-free zone!..
…Nice to hear a coach./manager tell them what they really are…He probably could have went a bit further tho’…
…Ho’way!..
329 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:58 AM
westoon – i said i didn’t mean to sound arsey but it riled me a bit that you assumed to know what I was thinking and then as if to underline my mistake you put NOT in capitals. I don’t have any beef with you but if you then follow that up by telling me to get over myself we might have a falling out.
330 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Talksport are claiming we have been bought by the indian fella. i cant find anything online to back them up yet.
331 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM
toon chicken- you are sounding like that other internet hard man ,normski. i hate internet warriors.
332 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Toon Graeme – hope it works in our favour also.
Remember reading a good article in the Times quite a while back from that Fink Tank fella, which basically said whether you won, drew or lost your last game it has no real impact on the next one – statistically speaking.
Full article here…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/fink_tank/article734710.ece
333 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM
AO,normski is a good lad,when was that on talksport
334 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM
sorry AhOle – you can accuse me of a lot of things but I have never once pretended to be a hard man on here.
335 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:04 AM
@ Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:58
HAHA a falling out?? C’mon mate, i dnt hve any beef with you either,so lets just leave it here!! I never meant the capital letters to be directed at you!! Its just the way i type!!
We are both HUGE TOON FANS,so Lets just “shake Hands” & move on mate??
336 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM
WesToon + TC = a couple of geet pansies.
337 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM
westoon – yep, sweet mate – like i said – no beef with you.
Apologies if I came over a little defensive but I am constantly being undermined on this blog and having my integrity called into question (a couple of examples of this can be seen on this one article alone).
I do try and keep my cool and remain civil whenever possible but sometimes I can’t help but let out a little steam.
Once again, sorry mate.
338 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM
@ bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:05
hahahhaha sorry mate wont happen again
339 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM
toon chicken- why do you get upset on a blog? you should rename yourself chicken nugget.
340 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:18 AM
The South african consortium are falling like flies Lads
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/imerman-rules-out-newcastle-bid-950005.html
No worries Toon Chicken,ive been reading this blog since the very beggining mate & i know that people on here undermine you all the time & you were just deffending yourself,so apology accepted lad!!!
341 WesToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 11:22 AM
@ AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:58
Pls give us a link mate
342 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Waaa chicken nugget .. i reks its all a bit of handbags like … as it always is .. its healthy .. wheres Murvar today .. ?
343 normski1930z // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM
hehe ao nando bum boy…..
344 'Busa // Oct 3, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I used to know Simon Clifford as a kid…
He has come a long way from being a policeman’s son in a north yorkshire mining village.
345 Losing the love of Premierleague // Oct 3, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Tom_toon sucks the dick
346 craig chisholm // Oct 4, 2008 at 1:57 AM
i see it looks like the south africans bid is all a con as the main man that was mentioned as one of the consortium says he has no idea about it and says he thinks its all fake regarding the bid. Plus the nigerians are now gone – not a bad thing. it makes me wonder if all of these people are ashely henchmen just pumping out more crap to make us think he is trying to sell when really he is not selling at all. far fetched – maybe. having said that, the sate of our club now, anything is possible. i smell rats everywhere and nothing rings true.
347 john // Oct 4, 2008 at 9:37 AM
I TELL U WHAT-I RECKON JOE KINNEAR IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB-FULL STOP!HE HAS MORE GO IN HIM THAN KEEGAN,BOBBY,ROEDER,SOUNESS AND ALLARDYCE! I HOPE HE DOES OK WE DONT NEED KEEGAN BACK TO BALLS IT UP IF HE DOES THO!BY LUCK AND CHANCE I THINK WEVE FOUND THE MAN WITH THE FIGHT AND SPIRIT TO TAKE US INTO THE TOP 6 AND BEYOND!EUROPE HERE WE COME!MITE TAKE HIM A FEW GAMES BUT U WATCH! JFK’S BLACK N WHITE ARMY!
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/303154488?-11058
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