Joe Kinnear had a tirade yesterday morning in complaining vehemently, with some very blue language at the treatment he has been receiving from sports writers who cover Newcastle United.
Joe Kinnear - filthy worded tirade against National Press
Let’s just saying the way Joe started the press conference was as follows:
Kinnear: Which one is Simon Bird? - he is the Daily Mirror’s north-east football writer
Bird: Me.
Kinnear: You’re a c**t.
Bird: Thank you.
Then it got worse from there with Joe launching a filthy worded verbal attack against the National journalists and threatening never to speak to them again as he claimed in this last week they had continually tried to undermine him and the Newcastle United Club.
At one point Joe was so upset that he said he may even seek libel damages for some of their stories.
And this is after only 7 days since Kinnear was announced last Friday as Newcastle’s interim manager.
Only at Newcastle.
Often during the interview the Press officer said some of the following, hoping the press conference would be kept quiet and not reported outside that room:
Press officer: What has been said in here is off the record and doesn’t go outside. Let’s get on to football. Let’s have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it’s wiped off and we’re not discussing it.
Journalist: But that’s what Joe has said he thinks of us.
Press officer: I’m saying don’t push it. Let’s accept what’s been said and try and move on.
But of course the transcripts immediately appear in all the National press immediately after the conference, which will not help Joe, and really shows up Joe. But that also illustrates what these journalists are like.
One of the hardest things about the Newcastle manager is dealing with the press, because they will write lies about anything to get a story, we have learned a lot about this since we started this blog in April of last year.
But Joe just has to stop wasting energy on being upset about what these people write – because they’ll get even worse as his enemies, which they certainly are now.
Quite honestly this has embarrassed the club, and maybe Joe Kinnear should even issue a short apology and then not talk to them again, if it is going to result in this type of stuff, which we don’t want to hear again.
We’ve read the transcripts and listened to the press conference and to say this has embarrassed the club is an under-statement.
Joe has to get used very quickly to these National press people writing almost anything to sell their papers, and we had to think about whether the word “almost” was needed to be in this sentence.
Oh well, it’s happened now but this will help nobody, certainly not Joe nor the team, nor the club, which are the only important players in all of this.
In fact the only people it will help? You guessed it - the press - who will write sensational stories about this. But to release the transcript and audio is another stab in the back for Joe - that’s what they are like - let’s be truthful here.
Anything for a sensational story.
If Joe want to treat the press as enemies from now on - then that’s fine with us - but he should use this to motivate himself and the players to get back at the press with great results - because that’s all that really matters right now.
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1 sweendog // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:19
F**k sake give him a break
2 sweendog // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:20
Whohhoo .. I’m f**kin first
3 sweendog // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:20
Maybe he’s got tourettes .. could be a physical condition…
4 adam // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:23
encore joe!
encore!
5 sweendog // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:24
Mind you he’s only telling the truth .. glad somebodies standing up to the newspaper Shiesters who make stuff up about our club ..
6 Newcastlefan89 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:24
I thought this was absolutely classic. Not often managers bite back at the press with such force, brilliant stuff.
We need a tough-talking tough acting manager to lead the club through this turbulent period. Let’s hope Joe’s bite is as strong as his bark.
Howay the lads!
7 MarK // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:26
Pc brigade wont be happy with it.. I thought it made for a good read
8 sweendog // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:26
Love the Simon Bird comment .. priceless
9 john // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:28
haha, this was classic, priceless. at least sumones got the arse to tell them what everyone thinks of them the bunch of w*nkers
10 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:28
He’s is own man imo, whether he is right or wrong I don’t see it damaging me as a fan, afterall we know the papers print what they want anyway.
Only downside imo is that it’s helped sell more of the rags!
I’m sure that many people have wanted to say similar things to the press at some time but typical it’s NUFC that actually does. Never a dull day at NUFC.
One thing I heard him say was about his recepetion on Saturday (when he discussed talking with MA) and he said it didn’t go well!!! Wonder what he meant… by us fans, the players or the press? I thought we’d been ok with him but maybe I’m wrong.
11 51times // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:29
A part of me is cheering him for saying what he said - we’ve had to put up with the prejudice of southern journalists for years, it’s time to sort them ou.
12 Nick 69 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:30
this was sheer quality from joe kinnear, classic.
13 laurent32 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:33
im didnt think joe kinnear was a very good appointment but im starting to love the guy! maybe if kk and big sam had come out and slated the press so openly then they might have stopped printing bollocks stories about us cos they knew the manager would respond and make them look like idiots!
long live king kinnear the messiah!
14 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:36
As a proverbial fence-sitter, I sympathise with him for letting loose but I also see that it makes him look as much like a tw*t as it does anything else. The key thing was timing, the timing of his rant (not necessarily the content) is what is most ill-advised. Joe professes to know how these guys work from his time in the game. I’m surprised he doesn’t know how to play them. This is more ammunition. If it is an attempt at creating ’seige mentality’ it’s flawed. Might seem like a noble gesture but we could do without having an us vs the world situation right now.
15 bowburnmag // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:39
But just for the craic - much as I don’t condone too much grief on other supporters, particularly if their plight is as a poor as our’s Spurs’, it is a relief to see it’s not just getting laughed at right now - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1067529/Theres-new-comedy-club-town–Tottenham-Toon-email-pranksters-strike.html?ITO=1490.
16 Hugh Jorgan // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:39
I wonder if Joe will give the players a bit of the same on Sunday ?
It´s really what they all damned need.
It might even encourage them to give 100% !
Let´s wait and see.
17 rooks // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:40
a f**kin ridiculous thing to do. what a c**k.
18 jj // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:41
it’s about f***ing time someone stood up to the press like that, fair play to the man - really warming to him.
19 Graham1982 // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:42
This is pure class. Anyone can see the genious behind this. The press will now be looking at and gunning for him and less on our players. Excellent way to take the focus off them and let them do thir talking on the pitch!!
20 YellowBelly // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:44
Maybe it was a clever deliberate tactic. Mourinho was a master at it and he knew the press had to write something about the club. So give them something meaning less but controversial and they will leave everything else alone.
21 Bosck // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:45
Personally i support Joe completely on this some one had to stand up and tell the press the truth.
So what he swore. Most people swear. The press make up lies every day especially about our club and some one had to have a go at them for this. At least on this case they are reporting the truth. Personally i couldnt care less if Joe Kinnear has no working relationship with the national press. he can talk to the fans through the local newspapers and the official site and then sad the garbage printing national press.
22 i Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:46
Way to go JFK lol it was classic
23 Mark // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:46
Brilliant… ban the F^cking lot of them out of St James, that is what I say.. Weel done Joe, already up in my estimation..
24 Danny // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:47
Newcastle:
The Crazy Entertaining Gang!
25 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:48
He has a go at Niall Hickman in the Express but to be honest Niall tends to write some very fair articles about Newcastle and the fans, and he was certainly very scathing towards Ashley for his treatment of Keegan. At the end of the day we can all use swear words, but surely he can get his point across in a better way? It just sounds like he is losing the plot at a time when he is supposed to be the stable influence that is going to steady the sinking ship.
26 sirjasontoon // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:49
What a top man,
Gone up in my estimation..now let’s get all three points off Everton.
JK da Man !
27 Surly Amoeba // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:50
Don’t think Sam Allardyce was on good terms with the press either. I think these press guys are too full of themselves and their own importance. Whilst it’s theoretically not good for either side if there is no relationship, these days I don’t think it would make a jot of difference to what they would write - even if Joe had been Mother Theresa. Could their lies get any worse? I’ve given up on the press .
Joe’s strength comes from knowing he is not in it for the long-term - so for a few weeks they might be negative about NUFC?? Would we notice any difference?
28 samthecat // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:50
I have no problem with this at all-Joe said what we all think about the press-give em both barrels back-about time.
The silent approach certainly hasnt worked.
29 ELFER // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:51
I’m sorry to say ED but your also doing this story…I think joe was right and he certainly has no idea to keep his mouth shout. Far better than to have non talkers at the club! Passion is allowed and the press should be warned, that they cannot do everything with joe!
30 tyneside tommo // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:53
This is not priceless or comical and the last thing we need is a tough talking manager whose brain isn’t working.
Simon Bird’s stuff has been spot on. JFK should have pulled him aside and had a quiet word. Instead he’s made a very public idiot of himself and Newcastle.
I’ve long thought that there is a London agenda by some of the papers against the Toon. This foul-mouthed rant simply plays into their hands.
Don’t be blinded by the fans who argue it’s disloyal to Newcastle not to support the manager, temporary or otherwise.
It’s as plain as the nose on your face. JFK always has and always will be a loud-mouth twat.
Don’t believe? Just read today’s Guardian and cringe.
31 Mark // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:54
I have not bought a newspaper for nearly a year now, because of the crap they write… I look online, although I do visit there websites, I take pleasure out of giving them absolutely non of my money.. :-p
32 danuneek // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:55
Why doesn’t everyone stop buying tabloids, then eventually they’ll stop writing this crap about our club. The only reason they write it is because a lot of Newcastle supporters buy the newspapers with one word written about the club. How many people on here can honestly say they have bought a tabloid solely for what it saying about Newcastle. I did, but i’ve learnt my lesson plus the internet is free
On another note, someone yesterday suggested that Sorin, Trabelsi, Appiah and the fat Ronaldo were up for grabs on a free. Well, surely Sorin and Appiah are worth a shout, particularly as we are down on numbers in those positions. Sorin has his Argentinian compatriots in Gutierez and Colocini and would be decent at left back, and Appiah is desperate to play in the premiership. We only have to sign them up for a year.
33 Jude // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:55
Ed u r shite…
This is the best act i’ve seen from a newcastle manager in ages…i think thaat’s what the english press got coming to them
The C**Ts and F**ks they…rlly great from JK….I love him already
Now f**k all u F**ki*g slimy journalists…including Ed who seems to think JK is outta line…..SHitey article if u ask me
34 red eye // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:56
Well f***ing said Joe, I’m liking him more each day.
35 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 12:59
To be honest all the press conference does is show up Joe’s limited intelligence. I liked some of the quotes he had been making earlier in the week but this is way over the top and just makes him out to be slightly unhinged.
36 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:00
Why are people on here referring to Joe Kinnear as JFK? His middle name is Patrick. Is there some clever joke in this - cos if so its gone over my heed.
37 Mark // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:01
Joe F%cking Kinnear
38 Terry Mac's Crossword // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:03
The Bird comment is great and absolutely spot on. He’s is often paraded as some sort of an insider with his greasy finger on the pulse cos he’s from the north east.
Must be the toughest part of the job facing those gutter snipes (i’m toning my language) all the time. I tend to read the journal, chronnie (with a pinch o salt) bbc and now and again you get a fair view from some of the broadsheets. All the other journo’s are . . . . . . . . scoundrels.
39 Greek Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:03
Nothing clever about this my friends. He was completely incoherant. IDIOT!
40 dave v // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:03
At last someone with the balls to stick up for our club. The press have got what they deserve.
Lets see the same passion from the players on Sunday, so you had better get out of your sick beds and start fighting for the club.
41 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:06
Haven’t bought a paper in many years and I’m surprised so many still do buy them, afterall more information is available on-line.
42 ronjohno // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:08
Whilst not condoning the expletives I am dead chuffed that someone at long last has the guts to fight back at the press and it is long overdue.
I am more disappointed with this blog owner for seeming to side with the journalists who get away with murder and then cry like babies when they are confronted. If he thinks this has brought more embarrassment then I am afraid the word must have a different meaning to him than it does me.
It was nothing whotever to do with these journalist and to continually ask why Kinnear had not worked on the Sunday beggars belief. Just who do they think they are
How many times have people come on here and complained about the bad press (blog owner included) NUFC get and now at last we have someone to fight back. Daglish was the same and was the only thing I admired him for- he always put Anal Oliver in his place.
These so called journalists had no right to continually ask Joe why he had not been at St James’s on Sunday -it was absolutely nothing to do with them or anybody else
I am actually a long standing Mirror reader for no other reason than it was always in our house from childhood and usually take what they say with a pinch of salt anyway on all matters not just football. From today though I will never buy it again .
43 Mark G // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:08
He was right to do what he did and as a fan I don’t feel embarrassed in the slightest. Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger always have a go at the press and its good that we have a manager who isn’t afraid to say what he thinks. The daily mirror is a rag but we should also blame the people who buy the paper, that is after all why they print such rubbish.
As for the poster who said the pc brigade wont be happy. You have no idea what you’re talking about and you shouldn’t try and bring in anything even vaguely political onto this website. Nobody cares what you think politically
44 Toon_Ksk // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:08
I hate the press in this cu/n/try
45 Karltoon // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:09
Ed - How do you answer that poll in the top right?
46 Spitfire // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:09
Joe was right to have a go. Especially at Simon Bird who must write with a crayon - he must be special needs his reporting is it is so crap. It is also a very clever tactic to get attention on him and the pressure off the players. It gives the journos something to write about and at the very least he has made sure the write the truth for once in their lives. So he has also performed a great service to the profession (!) of sports reporting
47 xfer // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:10
Exactly, good one Joe.
48 ObaFan2 // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:14
Karltoon // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:09
Ed - How do you answer that poll in the top right?
Ha ha indeed, it’s a tricky one but so far 11 people have managed to answer it
49 Mark // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:14
Karltoon
Is your Impression Of Kinnear Better or Worse Followng Yesterday’s Tirade Against Press?
YES
NO
Don’t Know…
Could not figure this one out either, is it yes for better, No for Worse MMMMmmmm
50 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:17
he just said what every manager and fan of every club thinks of the press. shame he didnt get to say it on live tv after a game. quality
51 Surly Amoeba // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:18
I’ve read the transcript online and I am absolutely horrified at the foul words used there: things like J***nalist, Pre** Officer etc - we shouldn’t be subjected to this sort of abuse
52 reillers // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:19
I remember seeing the heading in the paper this morning and I thought, before I read it, that he’d lost it all ready after just a wee while there, he’d snapped all ready..then I read it. The mans a legend. Feckin hell like that was brilliant. He’s spot on as well. About time someone did it, only problem is know one could because they’d be working with them for a good while, whle Joe’s only got 6 weeks.
Legend though, absolute legend!!
53 Howay50 // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:19
As far as I am concerned JK can light his farts in press conferences and headbutt the Queen if he wins some of the next 8 games.
54 Joseph // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:21
Ed are you kidding he was 100% right, these parasites have been laughing at the situation since it first emerged and its about time someone told them what we all think of them. Go Joe!
55 Bosck // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:21
Karltoon i’ve gone with Mike’s view of yes for better and no for worse, though it is a bit confusing!!!
and it was a definate yes for me.
56 Irish_Toon9 // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:23
About time someone stood up for us. I think he stood up for himself, the club and the city when he said all this. I think hes gonna have the team well up for sundays game..thats what we need right now
57 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:25
having been reading other teams blogs this morning , fans up and down the country are applauding what he said.
58 murvar // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:25
And here we see the reason why he was wrong to behave in this way: he’s set an example which similarly brainless idiots are copying on this site. He’s a hero to some because he swears at the Press? How about winning a football match? The man has no right to call anyone else Coco the Clown. He wouldn’t be out of place on Shameless. As if we weren’t enough of a laughing stock already.
59 dubsea // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:28
this is football, people swear all the time…and jk is right the press are lying cun*s
60 Eamonn // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:28
Fair Play to Joe!! Giving ‘em some of it back in spades. He’s barely in the job and they’ve got the knives out for him already. And it’s not just the tabloid rags, has anyone checked out the latest wisdom from the poison pen of Rod Liddle of the esteemed Sunday Times!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/rod_liddle/article4838156.ece
Apparently our problems are all down the the crazed Geordie fans. I’m puzzled a bit as I’m not English, maybe it’s a North/South thing but elements of the London based media
I think he’s the ideal man for the job under the circumstances.
seem to have an anti-Newcastle United/Geordie adjenda going on. So I for one am glad to see Joe Kineer show a bit of passion and sticking it to the lot of them. Anyone who has played the game at any level knows what it’s like in the dressing room at half time when you’re 2-0 down, so let the “scribes” have a dose of the sharp end for once.
61 Tom_Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:28
Ed, Greek Toon - Part of the much despised PC brigade i see.
C’mon Joe you legend!
62 Geordie Jayne // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:28
ha ha ha
63 George McKie, Kuala Lumpur // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:28
Joe is right to put the lazy/lying journos in their place and let them know he will not take kindly to the rubbish they print about him. All the vibes I get from JK so far a positive and I am warming to him already. What he said needed saying, even if his choice of words were below the belt! If he can also get the players on message and playing like they are proud to wear the shirt then he’ll do for me.
64 Tom_Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:29
and murvar, another PC prat!
65 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:30
murvar you are wrong . the press dont write rubbish about man yoo cos they know fergie will give them hell over it. they might be a bit more worried to slag us off now in case joe calls them a c**t on national tv
66 AO // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:31
tom toon. thats what we like to see. childish name calling
67 Ian // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:37
Well this was supposed to be off the record listening to the recording so the swearing shouldnt have ended up in the public domain. I think the Mirror does well allowing this out when it shows them in a bad light too.
I am pleased he did this though as it shows how much was rubbish as he is attacking a group of people on his own and even though they wrote the stuff they have no answer, if he came to me complaining about something I hadnt done i could easily defend myself.
I think he did the right thing, dont just lie down and take it come out fighting and put them on the back foot.
Joe might end up with a permanent job of taking over as interim manager in clubs as he seems to bring some calmness and has a good way about him, got to say as a temporary manager he is good, the players will like what he has done and the truth is oput to the fans (customers) which is also good.
While I do not like swearing it wouldnt have had the same effect without swaering, who is Bird? Me. Well you arent nice. wouldnt work in my opinion.
68 iain // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:38
10/10 JK.
we have needed someone like him to say that for years.
as people have stated fergie wont talk to half of them in the press.
so why should we put up wit them.
what interested me was the but about the press trying to splith the players up, i have always thought journos get together and come up with plans to create stories by saying they heard one thing to one player then an entirely differnt thing to another player at the same club.
tbh the only thing JK did wron imo was he didnt use enough variety in his choice of swear words.
notice no other journo stuck up 4 bird, too sacred they would loose there access to nufc imo.
69 Who is Derek Llambias? // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:40
you can read the entirety of the press conference here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3124831/Listen-to-Joe-Kinnears-Newcastle-press-conference-and-read-it-in-full-Football.html
Our club is nothing but a huge sick joke. Get these c**** out of town pronto
70 iain // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:40
the best the knackers could come back at him with was “you know how this works”
sums up everything that is wrong with the press in this country.
71 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:44
Hurrah. Joe Kinnear can swear. Now all he has to do is work on getting his facts straight, not ramble on like a drunken buffoon, learn how to put forward his case with an intelligent argument, and oh - win some games of football.
72 Chris G // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:49
tyneside tommo - yeah, i’m with you on this one.
I did read the Guardian article, and it made me cringe too
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague
73 Ericles // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:51
Rough of the cuff but, let’s face it, what he said needed saying. The press got back in their faces a fair trade for the shite they have written about NUFC recently. Now let’s get on with winning some games. I think our foreign players are going to need a dictionary of English slang now!
74 steve // Oct 3, 2008 at 13:57
Apparantly JK was half lashed when he did the conference
75 Graham // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:01
Joe hasn’t embarrased us one little bit - quite the opposite in fact.
He’s just saying what hundreds of thousands of geordies have known for years
Kinnear: Which one is Simon Bird? - he is the Daily Mirror’s north-east football writer
Bird: Me.
Kinnear: You’re a c**t.
Bird: Thank you.
That needs to be written on Joes gravestone - its a classic!
He’s taken another step up in my estimation of the bloke.
Everyone should have a swearing rant every now and then - it makes you feel so much f*****g better!
Lets get those scouse t**ts while they’re down on Sunday.
Maybe its catching?
76 Toon Graeme // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:02
I have just read the transcript and nearlly pi%%ed myself laughing.
Take it with a pinch of salt
Go on Jo son.
I know people wont be impressed but dont take it too seriously.
77 Graham // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:07
***NEWSFLASH***
Gordon Ramsey has reluctantly given up his crown of Englands finest swearer.
Ramsey “I’m f*****g good but there’s this new t**ting c**t on the f*****g block in f*****g Newcastle. This bloke is the f*****g dogs b******s at swearing. He makes me look like a complete f*****g light weight b*****d!! Now where’s my f*****g runners up prize?
78 Gordon // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:08
CORRECTION: After the press officer told the reporters it was all off the record, Joe himself told them to publish it because he didn’t care.
Stereotyping all journalists it too easy - and I think you’re becoming victim to it Ed - as you can see they don’t get any time of it either. Like any profession in life there are good ones and bad ones.
Ironically all the tabloid talk of the backroom struggles and infighting at Newcastle over recent months was dismissed ON THIS SITE as complete rubbish without any proof to do so.
A positive and heart-warmingly optimistic view was instead painted and guess what: the press were RIGHT! Keegan walked, the club structure collapsed and the players gave up.
Balance is the key - and you don’t get it by automatically adopting the most opposite position from the national press. The truth is normally somewhere in the middle…
79 Whumpie // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:08
Right idea, badly done. Yes, it’s good to see someone having a go back - but in the process he showed that he’s ineloquent, easily phased, and incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together when under pressure.
Someone with wit and an understanding of how to put together a good slagging-off would have shredded these dimwits rather than just swearing and going round in verbal circles for 5 minutes.
Quite funny, though. And the press had it coming after linking us with hundreds of players and managers in the past few months - none of whom ended up in St James’s…
80 SAM // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:14
The PC brigade (including Ed) want politeness and are upset with JK (love the JFK name). Well Everton need the points this weekend and we need the players to come out fighting.
The lack of passion from the players has already lost us points. JFK has done the right thing - what’s wrong with fighting spirit. Maybe Ed has not looked at the league table for a while!
PS. Journalists don’t care about JFK cos he is on a short term contract. JFK was always going to receive unfair criticism/lies from the press cos they have no need to try and establish a relationship with him.
81 Graham // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:14
This bloke is proper old school. He’s only here temporarily until (more than likely) Keegan comes back with new owners. I would be worried if he were our permanent manager having a rant like> But he’s not so i dont think it will affect the club or team at all.
Those South Africans will be heading for their translation dictionaries though!
82 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:14
He should of quoted a trinity mirror group insider as saying that “simon bird is a count”
Play them at there own game
That according to the insider he is totally inept at his job dictates when others should or should not hold meetings when indeed that is there choice to make not his
83 rab // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:21
Well said,
Printing lies should be challengesd the agenda has been here for years and years.
Joe is doing a good job and good luck to him,
Some people might miss the team building effect this might have on our shocked players, at least the manager is clearly on their side and is willing to stand up for them against the press,
All we need now is a performance come on the lads on Sunday 2-0 to us
84 cause I got the girth // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:31
Ed - “Quite honestly this has embarrassed the club”, well looking through the comments people have put on here, you look like your completly on your own there like! I think its brilliant, needed to be said and i only hope his passion rubs off on to the players. Which ones Bird…….lol brilliant!
85 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:36
To me he chose the easy option instead of trying to outwit them with an intelligent response.
86 Mick G // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:45
It’s a shame because none of these journalists ever swear.It’s amasing they can print as many lies as they want ruining peoples lives, marrages etc.but as soon as someone as a go back they cry and sulk.The mirror apparently printed three pages about Joe swearing at them.Every manager should do the same thing then maybe they might turn into human beings or am I being to optimistic?
87 Bobby Ollox // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:46
This isnt embarrasing yet, but if we get tonked 6 nowt on sunday, it will be ! They will never let him forget these words.
He is still crazy - Ihope he can still remember how to manage
88 samthecat // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:55
The press are not interested in intelligent comments-they are interested in a headline-report everything negative-never report anything positive, always twist everything said.For them Newcastle getting relegated is a good story, lots to write about-a Newcastle recovery isnt so good who wants to write about that.
Bet Simon Bird is really looking forward to the next press conference.
89 The legend Of Jonas // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:56
He might not have said it eloquently, but it’s pretty much what I’d like to say to some of the j********ts twats who constantly write destabilizing and damaging outright lies about our club. I hope JF*K sticks to his guns and doesn’t do any more press conferences and talks to the fans through the local rags..
If you’re wondering why Ed is taking the stance he is - well you don’t want to upset your peers do you? How’s the ladder coming along Ed?
90 ronaldeano // Oct 3, 2008 at 14:58
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
:) 
NICE ONE JOE!
91 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:12
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/article35233.ece
92 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:15
Anyone else noticed you can post links for articles in some newspapers but not others.
Now I wonder why that could be. Hmmm….
93 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:16
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1762985.ece
94 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:17
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4870812.ece
95 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:21
now now if Ed doesn’t approve that is fine, why he does not aprrove is for him to decide
it may be because of his column or most probably because personally he feels it was innapropriate (in part i would agree)
to suggest why he feels the way he does without any viable supporting evidence is what the people we are having a go at (the press) do
Are you a journalist?
There are some very good journalists around unfortunately there are more poor ones
96 Shane Coghlan // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:25
He must post here
97 Greek Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:25
Tom Toon
it’s because of little sh1ts like you that i rarely bother with this site anymore. FYI I am probably the least PC person going but hey what the hell explaining myself to a little boy who sits in front of his computer all day in his crispy underpants.
I swear often and obsenely but not in a workaday professional context. Or in front of my bairns. Not good form and doesn’t impress, although perhaps a little unfashionable. You will learn that, little Tom, if or when you ever happen to join the real world.
98 cause I got the girth // Oct 3, 2008 at 15:45
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/10/03/audio-hear-joe-kinnear-s-full-unbleeped-uncensored-rant-at-mirror-man-simon-bird-115875-20770121/
for those who havnt heard!
99 Wallsend Will // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:03
Daily Mirror journalist Simon Bird has said he loves Newcastle United! (BBC Radio 5 interview). If he ever did, he should have apologised to Joe Kinnear for his training ground storey and any misunderstanding etc. BUT instead he was delighted to get a rise out of Joe at the Press conference. Making things worse with his dead pan comments of “have you read the article, and I did’nt write the headline, don’t blame me attitude”. A win on Sunday will make me feel so much better
100 Listie // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:05
It could have been worded better lol, but what he was saying is spot on, the press, as we all know are a useless bunch of muppets, that love to make up rubbish, i’m sure they went to the 2+2 =5 school!!!
I see today a lot of support has come out for JK, not just from Newcastle fans, but football fans in general.
All this heat just takes the focus off the players which in my book is exactly what is needed, and Ed, i don’t believe JK should apologise
101 reillers // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:18
I don’t know, now that I heard it, it’s not like I thought, he’s more then a wee bit out of line. He a wee bit stupid in what he does. He’s only there for 6 weeks, he knew full well what he was getting himself into. We all know what the press and the media are like, they’re like that with everyone, and he just goes and flips out, I think he could have worded it better, I think he could have done a lot of things better then he did. And like, right now at the minute, what he’s done will have consequence. He’s left us open to ridicule, we’re in a desperate state and yet, he goes and pisses off the media, who I’m sorry, as annoying as they are to managers and such, I’d rather have them on my side. Till now everyone who have played us and beat us have come out and said sure we got them at a good time and the media ran with that. He’s pretty much gone and pissed off everyone and anyone in the press circles.
Now I don’t care what the media says or does but we’re in such a mess at the minute, it’d be nice if we didn’t have the entire press against us as well.
102 Scott // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:23
He had a point but havin a go like this does not help anyone.
He should just have taken in his articles shown them to be lies and quietly barred those concerned from the ground
103 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:26
Greek Toon - nice response, just wish Kinnear had been able to reply to his detractors in such a manner. Crispy underpants lol
104 canada willie // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:48
Just goes to prove that Ashley can pick em. Goodness knows what Kinnear will do when he has a bust up with Wise.
105 ToonKing // Oct 3, 2008 at 16:58
Starting to love this guy more and more, proper oldschool, about time soemeone told these t*ats where they belong.
106 lacedaemonian // Oct 3, 2008 at 17:26
Very true Greek. But I have to say I am glad he abused these journo’s who are hoping to embarrass him by publishing this off the record conversation. I am pretty sure they have breached an unwritten agreement (between the clubs and the media) by doing so. I imagine conversations like this happen regularly and go unreported. Joe is a soft target as he wont be in football for very long so they know they can have a field day with him with no long term damage done to them or their papers.
These journo’s are also the reason for the poor relationship the club has had for the last 10 months or so. At the beginning of the year they had a field day with Newcastle United - and this the crux for me - they were very abusive and slanderish about the Newcastle fans in this period.
They wont be forgiven.
Journalists are not good as a rule of thumb. The media is total dog shit. Sports journalists appear to be under a lot of pressure to make up negative stories about us. I dont care if it is the editor who writes the headlines. If I wrote a sentimental children’s story and somebody else wrote the title for me; something dodgy like ‘Paedo Club’, then the story would immediately be received in a negative light.
They take no responsibility for their ill work.
107 lacedaemonian // Oct 3, 2008 at 17:31
Macas are you brain dead? That is exactly how Joe responded to the media. Greek took the exact same lower tone. It was true what he said but he is a hypocrite and lost his argument within using his first seven words. I would not expect anybody in the sporting world to be as articulate as me. This is a rather warped expectation.
Excluding Olympic rowers.
108 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 17:40
Lacedaemonian - I’m sorry you seem to have lost me. The response from Greek Toon was witty and cutting without having to resort to a swear word every three words. The point I’m making is you don’t need to swear all the time to come up with an adequate riposte. So no I’m not brain dead thanks!
109 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 17:51
Kinnear’s rant is probably pre meditated, and will create a siege mentality ie. him, the players and us the fans against the world, pretty much what he did at Wimbledon. Old skool tactics which probably won’t work, the bloke is out of his depth.
110 lacedaemonian // Oct 3, 2008 at 18:04
Macas????? Are you pretending to be stupid? He used an expletive in his opening line calling Toon_Tom (and his likes) “little shits” and his comments were far from witty. The journalists would have had a greater field day had Greek tried to outwit them with cleverness….. unless of course you are a journalist in which case they would have been completely outfoxed.
I think you are what they call a “knacker”.
111 Ally // Oct 3, 2008 at 18:14
What a belter Joe, he said what all us are thinking!
112 Macas // Oct 3, 2008 at 19:23
lacedaemonian - There’s only one knacker here pal and it isn’t me. He uses one expletive, if you read my post properly you would see that that’s not what I was complaining about, it was the continual use of swear words by Kinnear. Get your facts right next time before you start giving me grief on here for nothing. At the end of the day it was my opinion, so there’s no need to get personal.
113 barcode forever // Oct 3, 2008 at 20:31
I think Joe is a genius, he is simply fostering a siege mentality. Its him and the players against the world, everyone outside that small group wants to knock chips off them. Get tight together and give all the detractors the two fingered salute.
This serves two purposes, deflects attention from a poorly performing team and focuses effort towards a common goal.
I am a Joe Kinear convert. The man has his back against the wall and his fists are up. If he fights for his life the players will follow his example. He has taken a difficult job, is proud to be given the chance and is determined to have a go. I am an ex soldier with 23 years service. I would follow him into battle, lets hope our over-pampered under-achieving players feel the same.
GO JOE GO
114 BenjiToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 20:55
Well, well, well - just when you thought it couldn’t get more surreal.
There are 3 issues to seperate out here and most of you aren’t doing that. First, there’s the point JK was making. Second, there’s the language he used to make them. Third, there’s his manner and how it affects his relationship with people around the club.
1. JK’s point is that the national media, not local, have printed consistent mistruths about Newcastle and should stop. They seem to have a deliberate mission to undermine the club, and that happens whoever is in charge of the team. It even happened to SBR, who is widely seen as a respected elder statesman in the game. That point is one we can all agree with and someone had to draw a line in the sand somewhere.
2. Joes language is badly chosen and will mean that many people (obviously not those on here but lots of others who do’t blog) will not listen to his point. That’s a real shame and he COULD have made the points aggressively with much better language. Having said that, as a journalist on other topics myself I have removed expletives from quotes when appropriate to make sure the language didn’t interefe with the point being made. Unfortunately Joe has used so many that this becomes harder, but not impossible. Journalists should be able to respond to the point as well as the language in my opinion.
3. Joe’s manner should not be confused with his style of language. Just because someone swears a lot doesn’t make them a thug. It’s the threatening style of his behaviour that worries me. A bit too aggressive for my liking BUT maybe that’s exactly what the team needs, someone to shake them up.
Finaly, what’s the upshot of all this? Well, Joe’s job is to get results during his short tenure by drawing the team together and making them fight. Does this press conference help? If the players are pissed at the media then yes it will. If they don’t give monkey’s about the media, and follow the negative response in the papers, well maybe not. Let’s hope to hell its the former.
115 Leo // Oct 3, 2008 at 21:13
what a legend joe kinnear is i think he should be knighted at the next opportunity
jokes aside i think he is great
116 Toon_Ksk // Oct 3, 2008 at 21:45
He had a heart attack before, there is no point being so angry. Definitely not worth it. His health is more important and he should just enjoy his time managing Newcastle, focusing on football matters rather than the media.
The media will shut themselves up once we start winning.
Maybe he will look back and regret his actions.
117 stk // Oct 4, 2008 at 5:18
joe stood up for nufc, after being there a week. some of those journo’s muyst’ve really been writng some shite to get such a backlash and they bloody deserve it. this guy is no wet blanket, no beating rouynd the bush, and that is the exact type of character that is needed more at nufc, players too since they’re all quiet as hell.
what do we think of kinnear director of football, keegan first-team (with veto type influence on all club matters), shearer and beardsley? dont care, give them a role, that’ll inspiure the lot of them to attack and play football like it needs to be played.
118 Lawman // Oct 4, 2008 at 5:26
not really a kinnear fan tbh but i’m right behind him on this occasion. the guy is just telling the truth and sticking up for himself. it’s about time someone told these pricks off for not doing their jobs properly.
ed, i as a newcastle fan don’t feel embarrassed at all. in fact, i feel slightly proud. i bet every manager in the epl wanted to say what joe said but didnt have the balls to. if anyone, its the journalists who should be embarrassed. Joe’s basically vented his anger at their unethical journalistic practices and by printing and distributing the whole press conference transcript, the journalist have just shot themselves in the foot by proving Joe was right.
Hahaha… bunch of idiots!!!
119 john // Oct 4, 2008 at 9:36
I TELL U WHAT-I RECKON JOE KINNEAR IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB-FULL STOP!HE HAS MORE GO IN HIM THAN KEEGAN,BOBBY,ROEDER,SOUNESS AND ALLARDYCE! I HOPE HE DOES OK WE DONT NEED KEEGAN BACK TO BALLS IT UP IF HE DOES THO!BY LUCK AND CHANCE I THINK WEVE FOUND THE MAN WITH THE FIGHT AND SPIRIT TO TAKE US INTO THE TOP 6 AND BEYOND!EUROPE HERE WE COME!MITE TAKE HIM A FEW GAMES BUT U WATCH! JFK’S BLACK N WHITE ARMY!
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/303154488?-11058
120 AndyNUFC // Oct 4, 2008 at 10:44
Sorry like Ed, I know some of his language wasn’t exactly family friendly reading material, but I love his character, and how much he stands up for the club. Joe is solving the communication problem, and wants full control and responsibility. I honestly think he deserves until the end of the season to try his best like we did for Roeder. He has been a scout since leaving football so should know a player or two.
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