John Cleland is leading a South African group thought to be leading the race to buy out Mike Ashley, and they seem confident, but not arrogant, about being successful in buying the famous Newcastle United Football Club.
And today Cleland told the Chronicle he met with Kevin Keegan in Manchester on Monday night, as well as spending Tuesday in Newcastle and talking to supports in Shearer’s bar, without them knowing who he was.
Some reports claim that no official bid for Newcastle has yet been made by the group, but the Scotland-born South African maintains they made their offer to Seymour Pierce on Tuesday evening, which followed a full week of discussions with the bank, which is handling the sale for owner Mike Ashley.
John would not comment on the size of the bid but it is understood to be in the region of £300M, with £150M upfront and the remainder paid over 12 months. That new is unchanged from when the proposed deal broke the headlines on Wednesday.
The 46-year-old has talked about how impressed he has been with the passion of the Newcastle fans after making a trip to Tyneside and enjoying a drink in Shearer’s bar with Simon Clifford.
It looks like Clifford, who is just 37 years old, will be installed as Technical Director, but one thing we should make sure of is that Keegan and Clifford can work together – and are on the same page. The last thing we want is another Keegan Wise furor.
John continued:
“I am a businessman who happens to be a supporter and the club and the fans deserve better and we are hoping to achieve that.”
“What we have to do is get the fans to come out and support the club in the coming games in the number and in particular to support the interim manager, who has such a challenge ahead of him.”
“I would say we are at least 80% confident of this working. We are cautiously optimistic but we are not arrogant.”
Cleland said he started pulling together his consortium after Mike Ashley made it clear he planned to sell the club because of the multiple and intense protests against the owner.
John continued:
“My meeting with Kevin went very well. I am hugely impressed with him and I got the sense there was good chemistry between us and there is a strong mutual interest in working together.”
“He is our preferred option but we cannot make any concrete decisions on the managerial position until negotiations on our planned takeover are further advanced.”
“I think he understands and supports our concept of developing the club organically.”
Cleland said youth development is key to the long-term future of the club, which he why he plans to draft in Clifford, whose Brazilian soccer schools see youngsters coached from the age of six months.
But he maintained the manager brought in would still be given their backing in the transfer market.
John continued
“We will look at every strategy for making the club a success.” “One important thing is youth development and we feel that under Simon, who has a proven track record, we can create a great system.”
“We would make it very clear that there is a clear hierarchy in place and everybody would fully understand who is calling the shots and who isn’t.”
“We would not necessarily throw the baby out with the bath water but in any professional organization, you have to carry out a detailed review of the human capital to establish exactly who has the capabilities you want and who doesn’t.”
“It would be inappropriate to discuss which individuals would stay and which wouldn’t and even at a later stage it would be disrespectful to the brand to pass comment on people.”
That sounds good because it looks like the Youth strategy started by Chris Mort will be continuing but probably with some new scouts, and it looks 99% likely that Wise will walk.
Cleland visited Newcastle on Tuesday to look around the city and to chat with some, none of whom knew who he was.
John continued:
“I did a lot of listening and observing of Newcastle citizens. We listened to conversations about the team and we were interested by what we heard. I was observing how the brand of Newcastle Untied interacts with its customers.”
“We spent a bit of time in Shearer’s bar, where we had a drink and a nice bite to eat.”
“I have been a great Keegan fan all of my life, right from being a teenager, when I supported Liverpool. Back in South Africa, I would see him with his perm scoring these magnificent goals and I became a big fan and followed his career to Newcastle.”
John seems confident of a deal and we think, from all we know, this would be a great deal for the club and the fans.
Let us know what you think in our new poll to the right.
Comments welcome.
102 responses so far ↓
1 ashleys wallets cobwebs // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM
please hurry up and push it through
2 ashleys wallets cobwebs // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:18 PM
just hope their is substansial funds made available straight away , then after we get a good system in place we can develop players, we need 100m minimum over 2 years to compete for europe
3 John(indian toon) // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Get da deal done soon plz, LONG LIV KK.
4 John(indian toon) // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Also letz get sum brazilian kids in youth, woul b great,
5 Dan13 // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
heres hoping
6 John(indian toon) // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Hope jonas is fit soon, he is a key playr 4 us .
7 Trini Toon // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
I just want to beat Everton and start winning again.
It would be fantastic to beat the Toffees….
Then take it to city
8 Nick C // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
It’s a pivotal point for NUFC. We have just suffered Ashley. We now need someone serious to come in and back their manager as well as building for the future.
I pray we get the right people. If we do we could absolutely fly. The right people would get unequivocal backing from NUFC supporters. We could become formidable together.
9 Matt // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Would be nice if we could just get a deal done and then the press will shut up about everything.
Ed, just a quick point, the latest poll doesn’t make sense.
10 Dan13 // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
I know, Ed
the latest poll makes you look like you’ve tried too hard to be a smart arse
11 Lokes // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Comon
Diamond
12 Paul // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
No official bid has been made by the South Africans according to Seymour Pierce, and potential buyers including the Bok consortium need to clarify what is happening about Keegan’s £8 million lawsuit, which is against NUFC, not Mike Ashley, before they go ahead. This story sounds a bit dubious and I wouldn’t be so sure that this alleged Shearer’s bar meeting took place at all.
13 little willie // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Disaster waiting to happen.
Lets hope someone else buys us.
14 Tom // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
They seem to be making the right noises, about youth development and the future of the club, about giving the manager the backing and support etc. Sounds good
15 Geordie Jayne // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I for one can’t wait until our club has the sold sign up…….this is just dragging on and on and the papers are loving it. I wish I could go to sleep and wake up when it is all over.
16 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
well lads this story has cheered me up after a rather sh*te day at work. I know a few people dont want KK back but I would love to see him back as i believe him returning would be the quickest way to get the players playing again. and I think that it would mean most of the players will be happy to stay, as if it isn’t KK i can see a few players putting transfer request in in Jan.
Haway the lads.
17 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM
little willie spot on. For a start they’ve only got £150 million with the rest to be payed @ a later date. This means we will be in debt by £150 mill before we even start. One of the investors in this consortium has pulled out already, soon to be followed by the rest of them. In my humble opinion it’s a PR exercise to benefit their own needs in business and probably have no intention of buying the club, just like the Nigerians. Or they are showing their hand in public to see if any other EPL club is willing to sell for a cheaper price than NUFC.
18 John(indian toon) // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Geordie jayne- yea this is dragng lyk da coloccini deal.
19 Paul // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Shot Bru, they are making most of this up. Seymour Pierce didn’t receive an official bid on Tuesday.
20 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Did anyone hear JK interview http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1067709/LISTEN-HERE-Newcastle-boss-Kinnears-crazy-swearing-session-special-charming-standards.html?ITO=1490
21 Paul // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Not really Big Dave. I just heard a long succession of bleeps!
22 Paul // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:17 PM
I definitely think that alot of Mike Bassett was based on Kinnear!
23 toon solja in london // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:17 PM
i reckon keegan should take JK as his number 2 if it does happen.
24 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Geordie jayne alreet pet, I think the papers have been having a field day with the all aspects of the toon situation, and certain fans have to take some responsibility for that due to the hysterical reaction after kk walked on us . . Know what I mean? Do you agree?
25 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Paul, your’e probably right, this is the best free publicity anyone can get at the moment.
26 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Paul even Barry Fry is tame compared to JK it honestly made me cringe.
27 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Have to say I’ve really taken to JK after his full bloodied attack on the journalists. .they are in part responsible for all the comotion surrounding our club so suppose I feel he said a few things I wud like to say . . To kick off with callin out a name and then calling him a ++++ is very very funny
28 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Toonpipes and anyone else i just found this without the bleeps http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_NQqnc_ue0 This man takes no shit of the jurno’s
29 Hadrian // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:27 PM
shot bru .
by the way your talking you would think its the first time in history a purchase has been spread out over time .
that doesnt mean they havent the funds for god’s sake , your also making assumptions the remainder of the money owed would be put onto the club .
also the south african billionare linked didnt pull out , he denied he was ever interested at all .
these guys mean business and have an extremely credible history working with large brands .
30 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:29 PM
That’s belta Big Dave . . Some swipe that like, he was total radged . . Let’s get vinnie jones is and have a tangle with the lot . . Crazy gang part deux: tangle on the tyne . . Ha ha!
31 Ally // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:34 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_rl8-3jYAqg&feature=related
lads this is a crease aswell
32 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:34 PM
TOONPIPES I dont think he has left anything out lol im sure he has got it all of his chest now
33 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Hadrian
You make some excellent points, i am fairly sceptical when people come out and announce all their financial details in public. Surely if you were gonna spend this amount of money you wouldn’t reveal your hand to any other potential buyers until you have sealed the deal.
34 little willie // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Hadrian // Oct 3, 2008 at 18:27
shot bru .
by the way your talking you would think its the first time in history a purchase has been spread out over time .
that doesnt mean they havent the funds for god’s sake , your also making assumptions the remainder of the money owed would be put onto the club .
also the south african billionare linked didnt pull out , he denied he was ever interested at all .
these guys mean business and have an extremely credible history working with large brands .
——-
What guys? Because the 2 powerful businessmen involved with all of the money have denied being involved in the first place! Why is Cleland lying about them being involved?
Add to that they only want to pay £150 million up front, why do you think that is?
I’ve also read an old article about their so called Brazilian soccer expert who went to Southampton under Redknapp, they got rid of him soon after because his gimmick was rubbish.
35 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Hilarious Big Dave LOL.
36 Big Dave // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM
ally good one check this one http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ6eJjK1qWc
37 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Big dave, honestly he’s shot up in y estimations, its not as if all of his arguments were that strong either he jus wanted to have a pop at them!
38 TOONPIPES // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM
I’m with you little willie not soo fussed about simon clelands brazilian football ting – too much of a gimick + not convinced about the content . . Still say we shud be on our knees begging MA to stay
39 DanToon // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:43 PM
LADS LADS,
I KNOW SIMON CLIFFORD, HE USED TO BE CHAIRMAN OF GARFORTH TOWN, MY DAD WAS CHAIRMAN OF SUTTON TOWN BOTH HERE IN THE NORTHERN COUNTIES FOOTBALL LEAGUE. SUTTON WON MOST GAMES BETWEEN EACHOTHER AND I CAN TELL YOU NOW CLIFFORD IS AN ABSOLUTE TOSSER!!!!!!
40 Hadrian // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:49 PM
little willie
i must have missed the news of the other gentlemen linked pulling out , apart from imerman, who is it you say has denied being involved in the bid ?
41 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Toonpipes, way to much water under the bridge for MA to stay, just have to sit tight and see what turns up next.
42 Ally // Oct 3, 2008 at 6:55 PM
guddin big dave
43 Paul // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Thanks for that Big Dave. I’d read a transcript so I was waiting for the ‘c’ word.
“This is all behind closed doors …” LOL!
44 little willie // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Johann Rupert.
45 ronjohno // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Cannot understand the idea of £150 million now and the rest over 12 months. Does he really expect Ashley to accept that. It looks like they dont actually have the readies.
Something doesnt seem quite right.
46 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Shot bru
Notice the bit about the finances is not in quotation marks and come straight after saying he would not comment on the price
this means that who ever wrote this article sourced this information elsewhere (or made it up) so it is not worth reading into it that much
the bits that are quoted are the only bits worth discussing
i relation to people dropping out i believe he has not discussed who he is working on behalf off, so rather than people dropping out it is more likely that the wrong people were linked to the bit (maybe as any link was made up)
47 Bobby Ollox // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Ha – Big Dave’s YouTube link – very very good.
What about a show of support for the new manager on sunday then for the cameras.
“We’re all for Kinnear
We’re all for Kinnear
Were all for Kinn We’re all for Kinn
We’re all for Kinnear ”
I would love that – I would just love that.
48 Barcode // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Anyone buying the club will buy in stages in case we get relegated and virtually zero chance of europe next season. Plus it’s a big gamble for anyone to take at the minute, with unemployment set to increase a lot etc. etc. The tv rights to start season of 2010/11 may well be a lot less than the current amount esp. with a lot of pubs ditching Sky.
49 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:29 PM
whos john clelend,how much money has he got.
50 Munch // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:32 PM
You gotta love Joe ‘effin’ Kinnear !!
Would love to ‘effin’ be a ‘effin’ fly on the ‘effin’ wall, during the ‘effin’ half’effin’ time ‘effin’ team talk…..
51 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:39 PM
even though it is probably made up in this story
if someone was offered interest free credit on something they can afford pay for upfront, they might aswell take it and earn interest on the money before handing it over
it would make them even richer
52 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Sure Irish AL, I take your points, i’m kinda trying to read between the lines. I guess as fans we are all desperate for stability and a new start, so any kind of interest from a potential buyer seems to have us all clutching at straws and believing this or that consortium is gonna save us. I think we need to be objective and slightly cynical of the motives of some consortiums, i mean i thought we were a football club, not a brand. Given the situation we find ourselves in the league, we don’t have much time to find a buyer and appoint a quality manager to bail us out of this mess before it’s too late. Maybe this is the reason we are all willing to risk accepting anyone who turns up telling us that we will give you everything you want. Too good to be true. Hey Irish Al, sorry about the late reply.
53 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Haha – Bobby Ollox – I take it you know what “We’re all for Kinnear” sounds like when you say it fast? Brilliant.
Imagine 50,000 Geordies all shouting that live on Sky on Sunday – the media would love that!
Belting!!
54 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:42 PM
ah scrap that last comment – hadn’t seen the youtube clip – d’oh!
55 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:43 PM
i understand what your saying barcode but they would still be commited to making the payments later even if the tv deals dropped or unemployment increased so i dont think it would make a difference
like i said only the bit in quotation marks are definate, the rest is speculative
56 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:47 PM
i dont think the credit crunch really affects football like,even the scum chairman doon the road said it.
57 ginkoh // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Just hope everything will be sorted soon. no more no less.
58 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM
hitman – credit crunch will definitely hit football, big time.
For a start attendances will drop, sales of merchandise will fall and less people will be spending less money in the grounds.
TV revenue is set for the next couple of years but you can almost certainly expect it to drop after that. The amount the broadcasters pay is based entirely on advertising revenue and advertising is one of the biggest losers in a recession.
I also expect sponsorship to be harder to find – whether that be shirt sponsors or even boards inside the ground. Corporate interest will also drop – with so many businesses tightening their belts the first thing to go are luxuries like boxes and tables at footy grounds.
I don’t think any industry is immune from the credit crunch – we should just thank our lucky stars that FFS is no longer at the helm.
59 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM
how’s it going by the way hitman?
not out on the beer tonight?
60 irish_al // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:11 PM
perfectly fine Shot Bru!
Likewise i put the football before the business
But you need business in the boardroom not footballers
In the interest of debate i am going to choose to look at the word brand in a positive light
It is likely they will want to grow this brand, the benefits for the board would be increased revenue, the benefits for us would be that there would be more money to spend on signings and wages as i would expect them to be balanced against the revenue
this is supported by the point he made about growing the club organically
This is clearly a business use off a word, not to be taken literally, it equates to self sustainability, with us breaking even or making profit
I think even the likes of Chelsea and Manchester city’s owner are not looking to waste money, they will spend money but also look to increase revenue, revenue generated domesically is hopefully near as much as it will get and will fluctuate with how many people become fans of a particular club (linked to onfield success) and as people very really change the team they support fluctuation is minimal
The area that is more likely to be grown is with promotion of the brand abroad, whilst fans abroad might not contribute much in gate reciepts, they may well generate revenue for the club via mercahndising and tv
Thes reason man utd and real madrid are so rich is not though their domestic income, its due to domestic and foriegn income
Juventus have moved to a 25000 seater stadium (not even there own, shared with toribo)
yet they are in the top ten richest clubs in the world (based on revenue generated)
in this sense building the brand could be seen as a positive
61 TERRYHIBBITONTHEWING // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:15 PM
ED-The way Ashley operates it wouldn’t suprise me, if we were in fact suprised by who actually takes over.It could well be a consortium that hasn’t been linked before, but who’s keeping their powder dry.Money talks for Ashley and he will surely encourage a bidding war.I’m sure this will drag on for a wee while yet!!
62 Nick // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM
little willie – may I suggest some selective reading for you. http://www.icfds.com
Believe me this is the best training kids can get anywhere and would save us millions producing our own kids like Micah Richards etc.
Old Harry was a bit old school and Clifford can come over as a bit arrogant and a media whore, but I tell you what, you would see the best football ever.
Technically Clifford would bridge the gap and our coaching by dinosaurs like Allardyce, Souness and Dalglish has been very poor and neglected over the years.
Little willie just open your mind to the possiblities. Clifford would have a production line of talent second to none. In a way this would be better than having a super rich owner.
63 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:22 PM
its going cush TC,ya self mate.
64 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM
rather have a sesh in the hoose mate,to many numptys oot there.lol
65 Ed Harrison // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM
TERRYHIBBITONTHEWING – you could be right – there’s supposed to be 8 bidders – I can believe there’s at least 5, and some could still be preparing bids. But the fact the SA are willing to pay 300M with 150M up front plus they look good – could eprsuagde Ashely to sell – at least they would be good owenrs for club.
BTW talking about Terry Hibbit he was a neighbor of my parents in Kingston Park years ago.
66 BIGPEAOVTHEWEAB // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM
how much money r these guys worth any 1 no ?
wots there plans r they gona splash some cash in jan or wot ?
67 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM
ed these south africans,seem ok what do you think mate.
68 Shot Bru! // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Irish Al, i can’t argue with those very valid points regarding the brand.
69 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM
aye am sweet cheers hitman – just getting ready for me hols like. 2 weeks away from the madness and mayhem – cannit wait!
I bet there’s a lot of people on here looking forward to it n’all!!!
70 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM
were you off like TC,some where hot
71 Turkish magpie // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:33 PM
did any1 here neville and saha are injured!
72 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:36 PM
turkish aye also cahill is susspended,we have a real chance on sunda like,joe is the man,really liker this bloke he takes no sh1t.
73 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Aye – Mexico B)
74 ed_speed // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:38 PM
hi guys where’s ganiyu tonight?
75 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:38 PM
that was meant to be – aye – Mexico
76 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM
lads if keegan comes back,he should make joe his number 2,ive warmed to joe,hes what this club needs.he takes no crap from the press like.love it.lol
77 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM
gonna have to find somewhere that’s showing the toon match at 10am local time. Sure wor lass will be thrilled
78 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:45 PM
TC ya lucky twat,lol.the last holiday i had was at durham.lol
79 Ganiyu // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM
good evening, i love sunderland and newcastle are crap.
80 Jinal // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Official – the South Africans just denied interest.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7649200.stm
81 Toon Chicken // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:50 PM
in total agreement with you there hitman – reckon JK’s been just the breath of fresh air our club needed.
I bet the players were pissing themselves when they heard that press conference.
Sure if they weren’t 100% behind him before they will be now!
Ho’way the lads – lets stuff the scousers!!
82 The Corner // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Can’t believe that south african bloke just made up a load of rubbish saying he had those rich backers. Everyone is using our club for their own media coverage to promote themselves!
83 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM
it takes the heat off the squad,TC this bloke is a gem mate,ganiyu your a pratt i dont no why people on here give you the time of day,ive says from day one your another well knowen blogger on here,just changed ya name.
84 ed_speed // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:02 PM
ganiyu claims he is nigerian, speaks broken english, and then overnight becomes fluent with it.
fishy.
very fishy.
regards,
ed
85 hitman // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:12 PM
ed spot on mate,he must have hammerd the rosseta stone of english..
86 TERRYHIBBITONTHEWING // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:13 PM
ED-Terry Hibbit (Legend and then some!!!-Harvey made some great buys and he was one,outstanding player!!!.) Looks as though we’ve got more spin or counter spin on the South African takeover.This saga has a lot of miles to go.Howay the Lads!!!
87 toonoot // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:19 PM
ed man, neebody’s whey they say they are on here.
88 Dennis wise has an s.t.d // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I think that both the nigerian and south african alleged bids are smokescreens, i agree with alot of people on here that the new buyers will be somebody we havent heard nothing from in the last few weeks. I just wish it was soon as the players,fans and area in general need a much deserved morale boost. i think both the afore mentioned bidders both sound in it for them selves and are just looking to gain publicity. on another note i like joe kinnears attitude and hope it rubs off on the players, but iam worried about joey barton as when he comes back hes going to be wound the f**k up!!
89 daydeburt // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:37 PM
well said Dennis!!!
90 daydeburt // Oct 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM
yeah neeraj you could be spot on, is ashley just riding the storm and kinnear is our new manager and ashley will stay in charge, it all sound very very strange. its a bit like ashley has told him to tell the fans what they want to hear so it looks as though they are trying to sell and bring back keegan, and the fans will just sit back and wait, until all the dust settles, kinnear gets a few wins and players back from injury, and everyone forgets the whole thing. HERES HOPING HE ISNT AND GETS OUT A.S.A.P
HE IS TO BLAME FOR DENNIS WISE,DEREK LAMB-ASSS,AND EVEN KEEGAN!
ALTHOUGH I WOULDNT MIND KEEGAN BACK OR GUS HIDDINK
91 ed_speed // Oct 3, 2008 at 10:01 PM
ok toonnoot, thanks for the advice.
i’m ed speed though. always have been, always will be.
regards,
ed
92 Doocey // Oct 4, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Unfortunately they have confirmed that is a possible “fake” and that hopes have been raised again to be dropper once again as well.
I’m hoping we get taken over soon by someone willing to give Keegan preferably time and money to do the business.
What a dream eh?
C’MON Billionaire’s splash on the Toon =)
93 little willie // Oct 4, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Nick // Oct 3, 2008 at 20:21
little willie – may I suggest some selective reading for you. http://www.icfds.com
Believe me this is the best training kids can get anywhere and would save us millions producing our own kids like Micah Richards etc.
Old Harry was a bit old school and Clifford can come over as a bit arrogant and a media whore, but I tell you what, you would see the best football ever.
Technically Clifford would bridge the gap and our coaching by dinosaurs like Allardyce, Souness and Dalglish has been very poor and neglected over the years.
Little willie just open your mind to the possiblities. Clifford would have a production line of talent second to none. In a way this would be better than having a super rich owner.
———-
He’s been running these football camps for the best part of 10 years yet the only decent players he’s had come through are Richards and Bostock so it’s far fetched to claim we would have a production line of talent.
He’s typical of someone who thinks their gimmick is far better than it actually is and I trust Redknapp’s opinion since he was manager of West Ham when they had one of the best academys in the country.
He’s a bluffer.
94 john // Oct 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I TELL U WHAT-I RECKON JOE KINNEAR IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB-FULL STOP!HE HAS MORE GO IN HIM THAN KEEGAN,BOBBY,ROEDER,SOUNESS AND ALLARDYCE! I HOPE HE DOES OK WE DONT NEED KEEGAN BACK TO BALLS IT UP IF HE DOES THO!BY LUCK AND CHANCE I THINK WEVE FOUND THE MAN WITH THE FIGHT AND SPIRIT TO TAKE US INTO THE TOP 6 AND BEYOND!EUROPE HERE WE COME!MITE TAKE HIM A FEW GAMES BUT U WATCH! JFK’S BLACK N WHITE ARMY!
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/303154488?-11058
95 skin d // Oct 4, 2008 at 10:17 AM
f##k the south africans ,wont be any better than ashley.
that brazillian soccer school gadgie,looks well dodgy.
i got a feeling it will be same old,same old,they,ll bring kk back and put another structure in place that kk cannot work in.
kevin and that soccer school gadgie will fall out ,and kev will f##k off again happy days.
96 skin d // Oct 4, 2008 at 10:21 AM
john worrying signs already for joe kinnear,he,s only been in the job four days ,and he,s buckling under the pressure.
what,s he ganna be like when the loose a few games?
97 TOONDALE // Oct 4, 2008 at 10:29 AM
This South African thing is a complete load of rubbish. Three of the so called consortium have distanced themselves completely from any proposed deal. We are being conned again!
98 Sav // Oct 4, 2008 at 11:01 AM
John, what’s the reason for such optimism?
Just a few ‘F’s?
99 Sav // Oct 4, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Dunno what to believe about any of this so best to wait and see what happens bearing in mind the Nigerian/ SA bids are probably BS.
Best real news is Cahill isn’t playing for the toffees and Moyes is mad as hell a panel of cleaners, bus drivers, a comis chef and the FA janitor have upheld Tim’s ban. Fantastic! With Guthrie back, perhaps we’re in with a chance?
100 xfer // Oct 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Sounds extremely good to me.
101 toonoot // Oct 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM
A load of bollox
102 toonoot // Oct 4, 2008 at 4:30 PM
John: By your reasoning we shouold get Royston Vasey
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