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Do You Want Mike Ashley To Stay At Newcastle?
3:14 pm, Friday, October 10th, 2008 by Ed Harrison · 181 Comments
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181 responses so far ↓
1 geordie jock // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:19 PM
NO
2 Nathan // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Ideally I would love him to stay
3 Jonas // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Some of our fans are a joke! How can you possibly want him to stay after all thats happened? Plus why would he want to stay!? Surely he must leave and Keegan to return!! (Fingers Crossed)
4 paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM
not at all! he has never ran or hopefully wont again run a football club!
5 Ericles // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM
NO! The bloke is completely untrustworthy. He will never listen to the fans and will always side with his London mates against us. Go, go asap.
6 garyfret // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM
no his newcastle days are finished. he could not set foot in newcastle so why would he stay somewere hes not welcome.
7 Shearerbliss // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Stay and get us a world class manager!
8 Ally // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:27 PM
F*** NO
9 Rich // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Not a chance…
he doesn’t seem to know how to run the club and the mess we are in is all his fault.
10 Soren // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM
The man has no credebility, and therefore no! He must surely sell up and leave, as we cannot trust his words.
11 michael // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Nooooooooooooo! Ne way on this planet do i want him stay the two faced cockney prick.
12 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM
In a year’s time, we will probably be demanding that a new owner sells up because of a load of distorted hearsay. We are our own worst enemies.
13 Nor // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM
i would like to say ashley get back kk and give him full kontroll and i sure we will winn
14 Tom // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I don’t know, on one hand he’s done so many stupid things in a short period of time I don’t know if he’ll ever be able to recover from it. Also will he invest any money in us if he stays now, I highly doubt it. Also will he do whats needed which is have a management team who live and work in newcastle, because the cockney mafia thing was in my view only because the people put in charge did so from a london office rather than from st james park which is where they should have been.
Personally I wouldnt mind Ashley if he got rid of his bad appointments in Llamblas and Wise, and appointed men who wanted to work and live in newcastle, and if this “£20m a year” thing was true rather than a complete lie seeing as he made a net profit on transfers.
But on the other hand If a suitable buyer comes in I’d rather have the fresh start.
15 Ashton // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Ashley’s biggest mistake was appointing a quitter like KK
any way he should sell
it will be better for the club and the fans imo
16 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM
BTW michael, people from Slough aren’t ‘Cockneys’, they aren’t necessarily ‘pricks’ either.
17 Nick C // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Paul = Cock-er-ney Prick from Slough
18 benoz // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM
He needs to learn a few things
1: The fans are the club
2: Football is not the same as running a PLC
3: Football is not the same as running a PLC
4: prudent investment can bring financial rewards even in football
5: The manager knows more about players than you do
If he could learn his lesson I think he was heading in the right direction, but it’s probably too late now. If the Geordies don’t trust him it’s all over
19 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Nick C, Paul = Geordie prick born in Gosforth actually. Not all Geordies are bigots.
20 Wallsend Will // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM
On balance NO! He’s made too many mistakes. He will stick with Dennis Wise! Why I just don’t know? Too much bad blood spilt. Mind if Joe Kinnear turns things arround for the team, and he backs him in the January transfer window, then who knows??? BUT then you keep thinking, why is Dennis Wise still there!!
21 Ericles // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM
True Wallsend Will. WHY is Wise still there?
22 Geordie Jayne // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Not a chance he needs to go for the good of the club
23 Nick C // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Sorry pious Paul, just wanted to see if u would bite.
24 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:56 PM
what is wrong with cokneys especially 1s that support newcastle not that ia m from london but would it matter if i was
25 Neil // Oct 10, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I think lots of us fans would never want him to stay as it will indirectly be like backing Wise over Keegan. A fresh start is needed really as Mike hasn’t lived up to his own words. He’s cowarded into a corner when things have gone wrong and shown that a good businessman isn’t always a good football chairman. I can’t believe in all the times he sat and mingled with the fans he didn’t hear some of us saying how we don’t like Wise and also the fact that we need more players.
26 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:05 PM
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/10/10/Prem-Newcastle-trial-Danish-youth-Mensah/
27 Daniel // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I don’t desperately want him to stay, but wouldn’t mind it. So I guess i’ll say yes.
28 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:08 PM
how m
any more youth strikers do we need
29 amble_ball // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:09 PM
What’s worse, the fact you went to the trouble of asking the question or the fact that 28 people voted yes? Good grief
30 Stevo // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:09 PM
MA completely refused to get rid of Wise or Liambas. Even to this day. At the time he could have admitted that his system hadn’t worked and installed a new manager with a new agreed system. I believe in the early days it could have sorted this mess out. The Keegan thing is another issue because nobody really knows what went on there. MA’s arrogance has pi**ed a lot of people off by the sounds of it and I cant see how we can move forward now with MA.
31 Daniel // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Amble, fans have an opinion, they differ. I’d say it’s worse that you can’t appreciate that.
I’d prefer if another poll was added, would you mind if Ashley stayed and made some changes to the current way the club is being run.
32 ryan peacock // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:14 PM
i want him out! he said he was gonna back keegan! and he ******* didnt, so ashley get your coat! theres no coming back for ashley, how can you want him to stay? he isnt worried about us otherwise hed be at the games no matter what!
33 amble_ball // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:16 PM
These “fans” have clearly had their head in a bucket for the past two months then. Of course fans opinion differ, but in the face of such overwhelming consistent and damning evidence, how anybody can even comprehend him staying and still call themselves fans astounds me
34 Temuri K's Shiny Bonce // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Whoever voted Yes in that poll needs their head examined
35 Ageordiedoonsooth // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Whether we want him or not I think we are stuck with him for the foreseeable future due to the credit crunch no one in their right minds would buy a football club at the moment unless your a super rich arab
36 too_bayani // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM
No!!!!!!!
37 Mike D Wise // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM
cockney mafia out!!!
38 dave // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM
If ashley is to stay he needs to admit his mistakes and then run the club the way it deserves to be run. He needs rid of wise and to bring keegan back for starters, he could do with showing the fans some respect too!!!
39 Hadrian // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:21 PM
do i want mike to stay at nufc ?
maybe if he stops taking advice from the likes of kemsley and co , then yeah .
40 ryan peacock // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:23 PM
how can people vote YES? it just disapoints me!
hes done ONE good thing at our club clear some of the debt, ASHLEY!do another good thing and leave our great club!
41 Jamie G // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:24 PM
YES YES YES.
I have always been an avid supporter of Ashley. I think the man made a poor decision in appointing Wise, but I also know that nobody is perfect and I still beleive hat he has time to rectify this error.
Ashley has taken Newcastle out of debt, set an effective and potentially lucrative agenda for the youth acadamy, and only, in my opinion, tried to do what he thought was right for the club.
I beleive he still has a future at the club and now is the time to bring in an experienced manager, leaving Kinnear there to see things through until this is done. We are only 4 ‘ Guttierez’s ‘ away from being a good, solid team and i believe we can get better with some prudent and sensible spending in january.
Keegan is not the man, he is too emotional and uncapable of being a top manager in the modern game.
42 Onepeterb // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:27 PM
should be elt EmbLe bell anyway
43 Daniel // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Ryan – you would NOT turn up to a game to be abused from 30,000+ people. that’s absurb to even suggest he should. he got warned from the police not to turn up.
Amble – yes i’ve had my head in a bucket, it meant i haven’t read all the rubbish the national press have printed. I guess your overwhelming damning evidence came from a soruce in a paper who is ‘a friend of MA, or rep of the club’. Compare MA to Levy, very little difference. Most of the things gone wrong haven’t been down to Ashley, although they have been his appointments. Things have gone wrong, but they’ve been exagerated greatly, and ALL the problems boil down to Wise/Lambias.
44 amble_ball // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM
wind up
45 Craignufc // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM
errrr no
46 ryan peacock // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM
DANIEL! i would if i OWNED THE FOOTBALL CLUB YOU IDIOT!
47 mikeygd // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM
i voted no but wud of been yes if he sacks wise and that prat of a chairman
48 Mongo // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:32 PM
I’d much rather staple my nutsack to a stampeding elephants forehead, than see MA stay as owner of our beloved club.
49 Massandrean // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM
No no no
russian fan`s
50 TANat // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Well if he had a lobotomy sacked all the London based poisoness little b******* invested a shed load of cash in the team and re-appointed KK as messiah in chief then i would probably say go for it. But he wont and he should go.
51 Daniel // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Oh right Ryan, that comment could be an example why you don’t own the football club. If he turned up a few weeks ago anything could have happened, the feeling was so strong riots could have kicked off and the club completely ripped up from the inside, literally. But there again that’d be alright wouldn’t it, because he went to the game!
52 Gordon // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:40 PM
No, the man’s a liability and he needs to clear off as soon as he can.
His actual core plans weren’t too bad but his execution of them showed up his gross incompetence when it come to running up a football club.
53 Whumpie // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM
I’m utterly gutted that things have done bad with Ashley. The days with him and Mort were brilliant, and I loved the envy from Liverpool and Manure fans who are stuck with genuinely and openly nasty bits of work owning their clubs. Rather a misguided Englishman who can only ‘spare’ 20m per year than fly-by-night foreigners with no passion.
I’m also impressed with the business side of things (i.e. getting us profitable so quickly) and what he’s done with the academy.
BUT he’s just got too many things wrong and shown his loyalties are all screwed up when it comes to the crunch. Just look at the state of us, and it all has to be down to the head man.
Sorry, Mike – it was fun for a while, but when you got your mates in that was the end of it. Yer oot.
54 Mimo // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Yes indeed. Mike Ashley made mistakes and who hasn’t? His business plan was in my opinion correct and the club had a real chance to move into a brighter and fresher future. To all those who mimic their king and throw toys out of prams while spitting the dummy grow up.
55 Chilly // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM
The club was doing fine till Keegan walked out AGAIN
56 ryan peacock // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM
lamlbias went to the game so why not ashley! he should of gone to the home games to show his support for the club! he is a spineless ******* **** imo!
57 ende // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM
The simple answer: no
The complex answer: If he sacks Wise and brings back Keegan. If he wants a director of football, make sure it’s someone Keegan can work with, is Toon-friendly, hopefully charismatic, and most of all still answerable to Keegan.
I’m willing to swap out Keegan for someone else, but I think all this talk of ‘just move forward’ is silly and ignores the fact that Newcastle isn’t any ordinary club that can take in any ordinary manager. Keegan ‘gets’ us.
58 Gordon // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:49 PM
“The club was doing fine till Keegan walked out AGAIN”
No. The club was doing doomed the minute that idiot Ashley employed Keegan thinking he could force him to be a puppet manager.
He should either have employed someone else who would be happy to be a puppet manager or given Keegan the responsibilities he needed to do his job.
59 Paul from Korea // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:50 PM
No, unless:
1. Wise is fired.
2. An excellent manager is brought in.
3. At least 20 mil is spent on new players in Jan.
4. The manager is given complete control over footballing matters, including transfers into and out of the club.
60 Paul from Korea // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Oh yeah, Llambias out too.
61 MACKEM TIL I DIE // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM
hahahahahahaha.
whats it like being the worst team in the north east?
62 Dondatta13 // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Charlton, the jammy lot, are due to be taken over by some Dubai lot …
Repost was just on SSN …
They expect a stock exchange statement to be made at 5pm today ……
Oh how I wish it was us being taken over …
63 Ben // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Yes. Ashley has never been the real problem, Keagan was. And the fans supporting the quitter.
64 Nasty // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Why not? We still don’t know the full story behind KK leaving do we? How much involvement has Ashley had in running the club?
Llambias and Nookie Bear are the ones that should go!!!!!!!!
Ashley has seen the influence of the fans and unfotunately for him been on the receiving end, all-be-it not through his own making but through the incompetence of the people he employs.
If Ashley were to look at his “Management Staff” and make some changes then all may not be lost, everyone learns from experience and how much experience are potential buyers going to have? Probably none and will in all likelyhood make mistakes too – I think the majority are hoping we operate like back in the 90′s when money was pretty much no object when it came to transfers – IT JUST WONT HAPPEN LIKE THAT NOW!
Alot of fans are judging Ashley on what they BELEIVE the situation is and not on what the FACTUAL situation is
65 Jamie G // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Dubai groups are just people/opportunists who have become wealthy because black gold is literally at their doorstep.
they know nothing about running a football club, so good luck to charlton, and we and mike ashley will see them next season in the prem league when we have bruce in charge.
66 Gordon // Oct 10, 2008 at 4:59 PM
“Yes. Ashley has never been the real problem, Keagan was. And the fans supporting the quitter.”
If you knew Keegan was a quitter, why didn’t Ashley?
Too stupid perhaps?
67 Paul from Korea // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Seems like MA is winning slowly but surely, as the blame is slowing shifting towards Keegan and the haters are starting to speak up… what a set of fickle fans we are… but I am willing to say this, I want what is best for the club that I love, and if MA is the best owner we can have, then so be it. I love Keegan and what he means to Newcastle, and wish he was still the manager, but who knows what the future holds?
68 lesh // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Agree with @15 and Paul from Korea @52 to a degree.
I’d be happy to have Ashley stay provided he’s learned some big big lessons from this and conveyed that the the fans.
Running a club is a business and I’ve no worry about these guys seeing a steady return on their not insubstantial investments.
However, it’s not a widget factory and while its staff need to be developed and value added/ gained from them, there is a need for experience to do the business while the younguns are developing.
The structure? I said before that it shouldn’t be a problem but they all got be singing to the same songsheet – the personalities must gel and purse the same aim.
Yes, the Manager (how about calling the post General Manager) should have final say on ins and outs but I think a talent spotter should be juct that, bring the talent to the GM for an assessment and a joint decision made between them.
Harmony is the name of the game Mr Ashley and if you’re going to stay, you really must clear the decks of Wise and Llambias and consider Jimanez for a return – get the rotten apples out of the club!!
Please, somebody, just give us a period of stability or is a massive meteorite gonna drop smack on SJP’s centre circle!!
69 lesh // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Gawd, there’s some spelling bloops in my last post (67)
5/10
70 Dondatta13 // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Ashley is a prize 1 … A Classed TOOL.
Any idiot, purchasing a business for X Millions of GBP who fails to check the books is not fit to run said business.
The proof is the way this club has been brought to its knees.
Any pro Ashley lot on here are NOT NUFC supporters … wind up merchants more like.
71 neeraj // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:10 PM
i would prefer ashley over arabs nigerians or south africans
barring ambani
preferred list of owners
ambani
ashley
you can fill the rest
so i would say yes if he is selling to ambani otherwise no
72 I Made 1000 // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:14 PM
errrrmmm….. let me think bowt this…….. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
73 Benwell Lad // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:22 PM
“Dondatta13 // Oct 10, 2008 at 17:06
Ashley is a prize 1 … A Classed TOOL.”
Spoken by somebody who obviously has a lot of knowledge about being a tool!
The boy Dondatta is nothing but a mere simpleton who has no real idea why he “hates” Mike ashley.
74 Daniel // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:32 PM
I find it amusing that the people who say yes actually provide reasonable discussions and justifications for beliefs, yet others just want to come along and say ‘not real geordies’ and rubbish like that, calling us fickle or stupid, yet without providing any rational.
75 baz // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:34 PM
sky sports news now-anil ambani buying charlton!!!
76 chuck // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM
If the emotional nonsense is taken out of the argument, cockney so and so`s, poor old KK etc.
and we can take a serious look at what`s accured,
I think theres room for a compromise.
There were misunderstandings on all sides involved.
MA`s original plan was sound, it was the implimentation that failed.
Terrible PR, a lack of communication, the hiring of the wrong people, KK,Wise, etc., not so sure about Jimenez seemed to be knowledgable enough.
If MA is to stay (which under the present economic crisis looks likely) and be successful
there will have to be major changes .
One requirement would be an experienced
football overseer, (not another Mort) someone who knows the game and can set a structured management pyramid in place where everyone is on the same page.
Fire every last PR person and hire people who can do the job.
Lack of communication is a major part in disagreement and dissatisfaction between fans and ownership.
A more opaque system would benefit both management and fans leaving less room for rumor and dissent.
A first class manager is probably the most important factor.
Preferably younger, with a track record who would be given time to rebuild and at least a fair
amount to buy, (even Arsenal spend in the market)
A new backroom staff ,upgrade the scouting system etc.
Perhaps it would be possibl for representatives
of the dissadent fan groups to have a forum
attended by MA where opinions could be aired and perhaps an accomadation could be reached by both sides, why not ?
Things cannot continue as they are “.in limbo” awaiting the spiral to-wards relegation.
77 G // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Everyday when i turn on my computer , the first news I want to see is ” Ashley finally Sells!!” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
78 Jamie G // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Dondatta, what you have just said is false.
i say to you, it is mostly intelligent people who support people, and lesser articulate people like yourself who jump on the band wagon.
shame on you for making such a stupid statement saying all pro-ashley people are true fans.
we are the fans who analyse a situation properly and here all sides of the story.
79 baz // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:43 PM
sorry zabeel investment group
80 norn iron magpie // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM
No chance. See you later
He has to go.Sorry
81 SwedEric // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I have always liked him to stay. But so many fans are against him because KK didn´t like his structure and walk out…
The protests were way out of proportion, but ofcourse he don´t want to stay in the long run now. He wanted this to be some fun, ofcourse it´s not fun owning a football club were 80% hate you!
Think he could have done good here, everything sounded so sensible to me, except the fact KK couldn´t chose who he wanted to buy… Think that´s the only wrong step he took really…
I ques he had good intention with that, that the manager should be able to concentrate on the football, and someone ells did all the crap work with finding players and look them up. Think it was a good idea to put in the structure with Wise, Jimenez and Vetere, but someone ells than Wise… But only one thing in that structure KK should be deciding, and that´s who in the end comes in…
Now I just hope a new owner gets in place so we can appoint a real manager, and get his staff in. ATM no one want to come, so a new owner is neseserry! Ashley is screwed here and has to leave, but if it was his fault I´m not sure…
82 pete // Oct 10, 2008 at 5:51 PM
kfc anyone?
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/nufc/KFC-boss-to-take-over.4580680.jp
83 Turkish magpie // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:04 PM
this is some good news! any1 herd of him?
http://setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/10/10/Prem-Newcastle-trial-Danish-youth-Mensah/?facets/sport-space/football/great-britain-locale/Newcastle/Barclays-Premier-League/
84 ronjohno // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:05 PM
The way things seem to be going it looks like there is no choice anyway.
85 RamyNUFC // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:20 PM
I voted yes. With two conditions
1. Get rid of Wise
2. Don’t bring Keegan back
Lets face it, we’re waiting for some Nigerians with their hands shoved down the back of the sofa trying to gather up enough money to buy the club or a South African consortium where half the people supposed to be involved haven’t even heard about it.
I say better the devil you know. Seems to me like MA is genuine about making this club a success but he’s made a few costly mistakes.
Anyone who thinks this club is going to be taken over by someone with loads of cash to throw at the club is mistaken. Seen the state of the economy lately?
86 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM
I have a strong feeling that we’ll have our new owners by the time we play Man City.
87 Thump // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:25 PM
No I don’t, get him away from us.
88 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:44 PM
on ya way sausage fingers….
89 canada willie // Oct 10, 2008 at 6:50 PM
No way, his my way or the highway approach has ruined this great club.
The sooner he is out the better ,even if he stands to lose on his investment.
90 lee // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:00 PM
he just has to know that football is differnt from his other business ventures. players and have bigs says in who stays and who goes… and he should know that football has a system he pays the manager chooses the manager gets sacked if HE gets it wrong…… now look at this and cheer up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw7khFmLaDM&feature=related
91 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Yup, cos otherwise we are well and truly f +++++d . . Every business in this country is under the microscope + any instability from within will compound the financial crisis . . We need him a helluva lot more than he needs us PLEASE STAY
92 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Many fans seem to be still labouring under the misapprehension that buyers are falling over each other in a rush to buy NUFC, along with it’s bigoted, hateful supporters and a failed ex ‘messiah’ lurking in the shadows, who may launch yet another attempt to rip the club apart for the sake of his own hubris once any takeover is complete. This is not the case. Most of them would rather endure the Spanish Inquisition than take on this nest of vipers, so we may be stuck with Ashley for quite some time yet.
93 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:08 PM
YO canada wilie – and so he shud expect it to be his way or the highway . . . Obvs you forget that this was Keegans mantra and he doesn’t even own the club! ! Geeesh
94 daydeburt // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:09 PM
1 million percent no.
he has ruined the club. fact!
he is an addicted gambler, fact!
and hes a spurs fan. fact!
he brought in wise. fact!
he said he had a 20 million pound plan to spend per year,thats a lie, fact!!
He was drinking getting getting drunk when this episode with keegan kicked off, fact!
He said hes trying to buy promising youth, and sold milner. fact!!
He wants to make a profit on the club, when he could sell it within 2 hours for the actual price its worth, fact!!
He says he cant go to the match because he fears for his children, nothing would happen to them, we are fans of the club not people that would hurt children,fact!!
bye ashley, i despise your ugly fat face.
95 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Paul – CORRECT! . . Nee sale not soon, well not a sale that is going to be in anyway beneficial to MA or NUFC . . As have said before, we have to hope+pray that MA does us a favour and sells to a decent company – of course the majority have made that unlikely given the amount of S hit they have given MA
96 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:14 PM
well i am a season ticket holder and have been to one game this season(bolton) and i will stick to my guns and stay away until sausage fingers is gone…..
97 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:14 PM
DADYEBURT you are pointless, it probs was his intention to spend 20mill but jave you not realised what credit crunch means? You are as blind as KK himslef . . Times changed, situation changed exonomc climate changed IT WAS NOT PRUDENT TO SPEND THAT SORT OF MONEY – COMPRENDEZ – HIS PLAN HAD TO CHANGE – YOU DIDN’T GET IT + NEITHER DID KEV AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE F CUKED . . HAVE MERCY NO MORE
98 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:14 PM
good comments daydeburt
99 Geordie Jayne // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Daniel – Fat Fred turned up every week to get abuse from most of the crowd
100 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Yup, I’m with the ‘dark side’ Toonpipes (Mwahahahah!).
101 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:20 PM
jayne coz the man has a whalnut whip for a d**k and does not have any balls imo…
102 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Alreet geordie janye . How’s it gan? . . Yee still want ash oot then, you haven’t changed your mind, can I tempt you over to the darkness?
103 Geordie Jayne // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:21 PM
91 daydeburt – Well said I agree with your holeheartedly
104 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:21 PM
paul lol
105 Geordie Jayne // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:22 PM
toonpipes not in the slightest
106 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:22 PM
though i would say i think ashley had goos intentions
107 Geordie Jayne // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:24 PM
normski1930z – not the way I would have put it lol….but thats about it
108 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:24 PM
toonpipes just wonderin where you stood when big sam got the boot
109 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Noo normski . . I knah where yu stand not gona argue . . What do y make of JFK ?
110 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Mwhahahahah
111 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:29 PM
well toonpipes i think there are some ppl on here getting a little bit over excited after the everton game but lets give the bloke a chance, if he can instill confidence in the side and we stay away from key players being injured i think we will do ok….
112 Timmers // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Ashley should sack all the staff with obvious exceptions, start again. There is NO repeat NO interested parties wanting to buy us, thats obvious from extending the deadline. The only club sales happened pre-credit crunch or the investers are looking at basement buys much like Alan Sugar has done with Woolworths. So Charlton for 30-50mill or west ham buyers will go for.Newcastle 300 million no way. Rant over. lol
113 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Haway gijayne we’ve got lovely chocolates and shoes + MA bedsheets. . @beyethegreat tbh I was hopin for more from sam + he probs deserved a little more time BUT the football was well borin to watch by the end and MA was always goin to bring in a new manager of his choice and he always wanted Kev and I liked the sound of that despite knowing deep down that it cud end in tears . . And it did! GUTTED loved Kev but he didn’t love back . .
114 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Normski – aye that is probs what it will take – I’d love him to do well and if he keeps the best lads fit and can get themhyped up we cud be alreet . . He’s a little bit crazy and I kinda like it!!. . Shola as fash the bash – funny
115 Nathan // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I can’t really be bothered to argue, but I think Ashley made one or 2 mistakes, but overall did a great job, do you remember how great it was when Chris Mort was chairman? Mort quite clearly outlined that Keegan had the final say on pretty much everything. Llambias comes in and I think he got frustrated at Keegan’s lack of knowledge of modern footballers and the type of players we need to sign, THAT is why they went over his head to sign Xisco and Nacho, Keegan is the man in the wrong here and I can’t believe that the opinion of a man who has walked out on every single job he has been in and has walked out on us twice now, has more say than the man (Ashley) who has come in and practically got rid of all of our debt, set up a system that should have worked with Keegan and outlined a strong emphasis on youth for the future with £20mil investment for transfers each year, what more do you people want?
116 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:35 PM
tell ye what tho me mate that i worked with in norway a few years back sent me a dvd of performances of Per Ciljan Skjelbred and he looks like a cracking player, hopefully get him in jan….
117 TOONPIPES // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Well said nathan
118 daydeburt // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:38 PM
well toonpipes thats may opinion, we all have different ones, he may have set out with good intentions but they have not worked in the slightest. i feel as though he wanted us all to like him, then within the next year or so he would of been looking to sell. I bet hes gutted that his plan (bringing keegan back, to get the fans to love him,dramitically backfired. and now hes left with a club in turmoil) hes willing to spend money on champagne and roulette but not on us, and i dont agree with that. If you look at the fans we have spent money we havent had on following newcastle, he could of at least try to do a little better in player investment, and made us a club that entertains again, but i believe he hasnt done that, and has brought in the most smuggest and despised men in our history in wise and llambias. i just want them all out, so i can support my team 100% without thinking about all this crap in the background.
119 shearer9 // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Anyone know how much this Zabeel Investments are worth? I’ve heard people say 12billion and I’ve heard people say that Charlton will be richer than Man City, surely not?
Also, surely if Charlton can find a buyer we can!!!
120 daydeburt // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:46 PM
probably coz charlton will be bought on the cheap meaning more money for transfers, i am very shocked though, i thought they had an average to small fan base. surely we are a better prospect for 250-300 million??
121 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:47 PM
ive worked in the dubai and i have emailed me ex boss to ask how much they are worth shearer9… shud have an answer in the next day or so…
122 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 7:49 PM
but i would think in the region of 12 to 14 billion dollars….
123 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:03 PM
whys everybody clammed up?????
124 simon376 // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:08 PM
People are still going on about the £20m per season, would have been nice to have seen that spent this summer when we needed more players instead of the £2-3m net. Yes I like some of what we got, but as of the size of the squad, we needed more
125 Ally // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Zabeel Investments see Charlton as a better option than us
the only one i can think of is that they are london based, cant help but think that if ashley had a suitable asking price they would of bought us
126 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:14 PM
yeah simon to add to that we needed in my opinion a defensive midfield player as nicky butt showed what happens when his legs have gone(penalty + booking) at everton. i have always been a one who likes a get out card…just a touch of protection..
127 simon376 // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:18 PM
with you there normski.
I’m all for people having their own opinion, I just don’t think I’ll ever be able to understand this pro Ashley bunch.
128 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:20 PM
simon i will never understand it mate …look at the current state of the club…enuf said.
129 geordie bulldog // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:24 PM
no liar liar liar
talk is cheap
what actually has he done for the football club other then wipe out the debt (which was good)??
squad too small(where is this 20mill investment)
hiring wise on 3 million a year when he was on 500.000 at leeds that was a great idea then deciding to cap wages for players
totally took the piiissss out of nufc fans and which i still cant believe and people still backing him on here what a joke
130 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:28 PM
mike ashley=liar liar pants on fire…very disappointing imo…
131 geist // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Who votes don’t know! What a waste of a vote.
132 simon376 // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Yeah we are in a shocking state and unless something happens quick the “R” word will be used a lot.
I want Ashley to sell and sell soon. I dont think he should be selling at a loss even though we are looking bad right now, but I just wish he would accept a sensible price. If he sold for what he paid plus any investment he put in, he could walk away and call it experience. People out there might be willing to buy for about the £220-230m mark. Lets just see it happen soon.
As for deadline being extended, I dont think it has been. I deal with tenders all the time, maybe not on this scale, but you have a deadline for expressions of interest then deadline for offers. Lets just hope somebody with cash comes in quick
133 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Ally, maybe it’s because the Charlton have sensible supporters who won’t want to run them out of town after a year or so, or refer to them as an ‘Arab mafia’, ‘Arab w**kers’ etc on the tv every five minutes?
134 Shot Bru! // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:35 PM
To much water under the bridge for MA to stay, unfortunately. However i reckon the 2 transfer windows should be scrapped, as the last one has been the cause of our current shambolic situation.
135 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:41 PM
simon all i want is the club to be sold at a reasonable price to owners who will be not man city types but ppl who are looking for good solid investment….charlton were there for the taking where as we are not bcos of the price…basic o level maths.
136 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:45 PM
You mean like another Mike Ashley normski?
137 beyethegreat // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:46 PM
what i personally want from an owner is to invest in the academy imagine if we could have an academy as good as citehs or dare i dream barcas i know this is what ashley was tryin to do but we also need some honesty and stability
138 wigaz // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 PM
There is no way he’ll stay! he’s after a large profit & when he realises that he’ll get about £200-230m he’ll sell! coz thats best offer he’ll get. A good businessman maybe but the fatal mistake he made was hiring guys who couldn’t run a bath let alone one of the biggest clubs in the country! (To all those who say we aren’t, how come where in the press more than top 4?) what he should of done was asked KK for advice & listened to him! he needs to sell up & leave it to some1 who will give a manager full control, i’m not sure KK would be smartest move either? dont unload on me but i think a younger manager with more knowledge of the modern game like Bruce or moyes would be the answer, they have an eye for a player & dont break the bank the bank to get em either! I just want him to sell and for us all to move on instead of being a national joke for journo’s to take piss out of!
139 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 8:54 PM
listen paul i think you are the same guy who i talked to about the illuminatei yes?? but apprently it doesnt excit… what do you want tell me please??? everything you say backs ashley so tell me what excastly is your agenda??? look at the club,everything is hunky dory yes?? the same as the half finished pyramid on the 1 dollar bill???
140 ginkoh // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:08 PM
No problem with him if at first he let
1. Appoint Keegan as manager and let Keegan choose his director
2. Appoint Wise as director and let him choose his manager
3. Or appoint someone be manager but no more director
The main problem is Mike Ashley did wrong but he didn’t even thought he wrong. How shame.
141 Big Dave // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Well Lads and Lass’s i would consider myself with Toonpipes. IF we can get a new (decent) owner wanting to buy us bring back KK then gives us lots of money for new players that would be super. but the longer it goes on for there is less chance of it happening imo and I believe better the devil you know. and altough I said it before when KK signed I believed that he would leave us at some point. but call me an old romantic lol I would welcome him back tomorrow to go through it all over again. I still think MA could have and maybe still could stay.and the best thing for him to do is have a talk-in with the supporters and take the flak as I think his vision for us was a good one.
142 vic // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM
ASHLEY DESTROYED THE CLUB AND STILL CONTINUE RUINNING.
SELL IT ASAP FOR THE CLUB INTEREST.
COOCNEY MAFIA OUT OF TOON.
DEFINETELY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
143 wigaz // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM
News now is saying KFC boss is front runner to buy us! he’s worth £8.1billion! 48th richest man in the world! Please oh please let it be true!!!! we need a KFC badly! ha ha!
144 Spyro - Taylor is garbage // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Just want him gone now, it is time to move on and get all of this behind us.
FIFA 09…the ultimate football game
145 sean667 // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:29 PM
bollox is wise still here, is he nuts the tool
146 Big Dave // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Vic @ 142 what would be the difference between the COOCNEY MAFIA and the SA Mafia or Arab Mafia, Dubai, China etc etc.
147 James!!! // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM
well jiminez is gone if wise goes aswell then am happy to keep him, at the end of the day he cant be faulted for wt he has done, hes done nothing wrong it is wise and jiminez that hace been the clowns, however im not sure that i wud want keegan bk
148 Big Dave // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM
James agree with you on wise and Jeminez mate but i also think Lambs ass has a lot to answer to. imo
149 ash1001 // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:44 PM
I would accept Ashley staying, if and I have to admit its a big IF he dismissed all of those that he has appointed, took the advice of the elder statesman of Newcatle United (Sir Bobby) and set up a management stucture that would take the supporters with them. It would also have to be headed by someone that was capable of talking to the fans and keeping us informed of what was happening in our club. At present this is not happening, he has seen what we can do as a body when we are angry, just think what it would be like if we were successful. Finally I would like to think that we could follow KKs example – he has given Joey Barton another chance, and to be honest he has made more mistakes than MA, where as the biggest mistake MA has made, and it was a very big one was in the structure of his executive management team (KK excluded)
150 toon mad tom // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:48 PM
defo not, Ashley out!!!!!!!! never to return…ever again!!!!!!!
151 skin d // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:49 PM
the biggest mistake he made was buying newcastle.
we would have ended up like psv eindhoven,who sell all their good players to the top european clubs.
i would have hated to see this happen,every year under fatty arbuckle,just imagine all our up and comming stars being sold to the likes of manure.
i bet all the ashley lovers would then change their tune,because that was going to become reality under him.
as for people blaming kk for the mess,the club was going to the dogs before kevin came in.
ashley only brought him in to paper over the cracks that were starting to appear.
i never liked the guy from day one,and if people are honest with themselves deep down we always knew it would end in shit with ashley.
152 vic // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:50 PM
nobody from cockney mafia even approach to players to explayn what f..k is going on.
Not Mike, Not Deniss, Not Labmias.
Remember Mike’s Statement “it will be long (and painful) sell… Be prepare guys…”
The aim is to destroy the club. They will never forgive the humiliation of fans protest which was translated around the world. Does not matter how much he loos. It is matter of his principle now.
He has failed to run FC which is combination of business, art , heart and respect of players and supporters..
Be shure he will never sell the Club until it definetely in CC
Get Coocney mafia out of Toon
153 James!!! // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
oh i forgot about lambias, the sneaky twat, well i think if he goes aswel thn lol, if we get in a good manager, depending on how joe does because so far i think he has worked wonders seems to be able to motivate the lads pretty good
154 vic // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Big Dave,
At least we will have A CHANCE.
With MA /DW we do not have even a chance
You will see
155 Paul // Oct 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Er no normski, I know that Rosicrucians and Freemasons did, and do exist. I just don’t agree with the Russian antisemitic text where most of the ‘Illuminati’ conspiracy theories are derived from. They have been disproven many times over by historians.
As for Mike Ashley, I am neither for him or against him as an individual, and beleive it or not I did used to be a Keegan fan too (I even have his pop record!). However I knew when Ashley hired him that it would end in tears, even before Wise came along, and I have had more than enough now of the club being ripped apart in his name. That pasting we got at Arsenal really opened Keegans eyes, and I may be wrong here, but that seemed to be the real catalyst for him flouncing off. Yes, he did take us up in the nineties and played a bit of exciting football along the way, however his atention seeking has got completely out of hand now and he is not ‘Mr Newcastle’. He is a mediocre ex premiership manager who is suffering from delusions of grandeur because he has a cult of blind devotees behind him in the North East of England, nowhere else. Sadly (for this Newcastle suppoter anyway), we are probably the most self destructive club in the world right now.
156 Spyro - Taylor is garbage // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM
This ‘Cockney Mafia’ thing is still going on i see, it is quite pathetic really. Have you lot never wondered why the press were so quick to cover the protests and bring such awareness to your anti-southerner attitude? Here is a hint, it is for the same reason that they choose to interview and televise seemingly the most uneducated and unattractive Toon fans around.
…They, want, to, make, mugs, of, Geordies. They are trying to have toon fans percieved as narrow minded, ignorant, pea brained, buffoons. Why do you continue to help them in their quest? Stop being so passive, you are just playing in to the hands of the media.
By the way, I found out an interesting fact during my first few weeks back at Uni. The amount of researchers who use blogs as an indicator of public sentiment and opinion has risen 50% in the last year or so. So please, think before you write on here.
157 chuck // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM
If the majority of the above remarks are a representation of the average NUFC fan, god help the rest of us.
Many barely literate (though possibly a second language for some ,I hope.)
Also unreasonable.
Overly emotional.
Closed Minded.
Refuse to accept any blame.
Bigoted.
Hey I could go on.
Used to be a good blog, what happened.,
158 Spyro - Taylor is garbage // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM
hmmm, i em usually very quick to join discussions about Freemasons etc as it is a topic that greatly interests me, but i think i will pass this time. Although i must say, i am quite surprised to hear such talk on here.
159 Cooper // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
At the end of the day WISE the dwaaf was favoured over King Kev.
Of course we dont want him to stay – what was the protesting all about?
i am DISGUSTED in the 22% of you who think this guy should remain as owner of the club.
Remember he the current owner has guided us to the worst start in the prem in years and i still see people saying that they want him to stay
The club is argueably in the worse state its ever been in in years and its all down to the cockney mafia
160 Cooper // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
and spryo get lost youre an annoying little twat
161 normski1930z // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
spyro listen am ok….
162 JJ // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Oh, jees Spyro, get past it…
“Cockney mafia” is just a term of frustration handed toward the men who are ruining this club… Had it been woman they would probably be calling them “Fanny Brigade”… If they were Portugese, they be dubbed the “Vegeshop mafia”, if they were Indian they be called the “Curry Club”… so its not that the Geordies have a die hard hatred of all Southerns… Its just the way the world is unfortunately…
Im not saying its right, but you are fighting a losing cause in trying to stop people.
163 sean667 // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
SPYRO HAVE TI AGREE TAYLOR IS GARBAGE
164 sean667 // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
the neighbor is a proud southern toon fan.
regards,
sean667
165 JJ // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I dont want an owner that is here for the quick buck, I dont want a mega rich owner who is here to have the club as a play thing…
I want an owner who has the ability to invest in decent young talent, COMMUNICATE HIS INTENTIONS, and give his manager run of the club and the final say… who ever that is.
But it certainly isnt Ashley…
166 sean667 // Oct 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM
JJ you is awise (no pun intended) man
167 Spyro - Taylor is garbage // Oct 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
no need for that Cooper
168 irish_al // Oct 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM
it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Ashley remains the owner of the club but i feel it might be best to start over, i don’t blame him for the current situation as it is the people below him that have been the trouble, i would expect that they are the ones that run the club not him
the way our club is currently being run is the greater disapointment, i hope someone with knowledge of the game and authority is brought in at board level, surely Ashley will now have the benefit on hindsight and see the benefit squad depth, he may not of known this previously but you would of expected Keegan and Wise to of understood this so even if there was dissagreement over targets they should of been able to compramise to resolve this
169 skin d // Oct 11, 2008 at 1:13 AM
well you know what chuck rhymes with anyway …yawn!!!
170 Grae_NZ // Oct 11, 2008 at 5:49 AM
Ashley Stay – Wise Llambias go
New Manager For yes.
None of the above = Go
171 howway geordies // Oct 11, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Ashley is untrustworthy and incompetant and I want to see him leave asap.
Keegan is a hero and legend of the past but I would prefer that he didn’t return as manager.
172 XISCO BISCUITS // Oct 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM
the bloke had a good idea and a long-term vision, but he’s made too many mistakes i.e.
> employing his mates (bad move in business)
> sticking by people who don’t care enough about the club to attend most games and base themselves up here
> failing to realise we need here-and-now players, not just good young’ns
> failing to communicate at all with fans – total lack of respect bordering on contempt
> shoddy treatment of a person who the fans love because he genuinely cares!!
> promises of quality replacements for our departing, and failure to deliver replacements AFTER players were sold (milner, faye)
too much bad blood now and he can never be trusted again, so he has to go. i dont hate the bloke coz i dont think he intended for it to go pear-shaped, but after all those mistakes which were either directly his doing, or the fault of those who he employed and therefore allowed them to get away with it and remain in the cushy roles, he doesnt deserve to stay. how can such a fool make so much money?? the fact that he’s now lost the majority of it tells you a lot….
173 Davies // Oct 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I want him to stay. I do. There are quite a few reasons.
His only mistakes so far are the appointments of Llambias and Wise and his failure to back his manager. This could easily be put right.
Furthermore, he appears to be the only person (aside from consrtia that either don’t have the money, or don’t know anything abuot this) that wants to own Newcastle United.
The only reason the club is up for sale is because of the imatient petulant wankers that demanded Ashley leave.
Shame on all of you who brought him to this decision. The horrendous instability we now face (yet again) is as much your fault as anyone’s.
Do you really think any oil billionaire is going to come and save a club that will crucify him the minute he makes a mistake.
174 magpie6699 // Oct 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Ed – the problem with the question is that it is a straight yes or no – and as you can see, people are saying things like Davies has just said – He’s just made a few mistakes like appointing DW and lamearse and not supporting KK etc etc. BUT – he’s had the chance to do some or all of that and hasn’t – you will NOT get Ashley without the others baggage, it appears, and I still think he made a fatal mistake in not getting back from partying in New York and leaving it to the slug to totally piss KK off and turn a retrievable situation into an unmitigated disaster.
(PS Ed – how’s NC – spent some happy weeks in Chapel Hill and Duke years ago)
175 Brettoon // Oct 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Why are people saying yes!! He employed the likes of Llambias and Wise. Idiot!!
And he’s got no money left due to the credit crunch and HBOS!
176 John B // Oct 11, 2008 at 2:36 PM
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177 John B // Oct 11, 2008 at 2:43 PM
There is only one reason he has to leave.
Dennis Wise…
If anyone else but Dirty Den had been brought in we would have seen the whole KK quitting scenario completely differently, well I would anyway.
I thought at the time that our recruitment this season was one of the best I have seen in a long time. The fact they weren’t ‘Keegan players’ shouldnt have mattered if KK truly loved this club. He should have been happy to coach such a talanted group of players at this point in his managerial career (i.e OVER!)
I say, unlucky Mike, you did alot of good for this club, but were undermined by bringing in a massively unpopular Dirty Den and the ‘Messiah’ KK who were always going to fall out, leaving you as the fall guy.
Starting to think we all acted a bit hysterical at the time imo…
178 John B // Oct 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM
oh and good point magpie 6699
Llambias, what a walking disaster
179 Spot The Zebra // Oct 11, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Shouldnt the question be does Ashley want to stay? I think he was only ever interested in NUFC for short term gain no matter what how much he denies this.Why do i disbelieve him? Too many “contradictory statements” mate.
See ya Mike.
180 GeordieDeb // Oct 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM
MA owns the club. He put in a structure he believed in but employed the wrong people with either a complete lack of experience, poor management and communication skills or unsuited to working in that structure (KK). He then stood back when it all went pear shaped and did not intervene until the situation was irretrievable. That is gross mismanagement. If things were not working, communication was poor, the troops were not happy HE SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. He could have avoided a lot of this mess. His pigheadedness and unwillingness to alter something which wasn’t working was his fault not ours. He also touted around the club for sale in the US earlier this summer, so for those of you who are misguided enough to believe he did nothing wrong and the protesters forced him out, think again he wanted to go anyway he just couldn’t find a buyer at the time. In most other walks of life the shareholders of such an organsiation would be baying for his blood (pretty much as they have been at Sports Direct) – oh, I’ve just remembered another one of MA’s companies!
Sadly I think it’s too late for KK to come back, too much water under the bridge. However I resent the mindless statements being made about someone who is and always will be a toon legend. As for the comments on Steve Bruce, if you think Keegan is a bottler just do your homework on Steve Bruce he’s walked out plenty of times when the going has got a bit tough and doesn’t have a great record either.
181 Lone Star // Oct 12, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Yes, he’s 100000 times better than the last regime. At least he talks some sense, why not try and replicate Arsenal in the transfer market. It’s unlikely we can find anyone to buy the club able to compete with Chelsea and now Man City in terms of transfer budget so why not box clever! Although give the manager the final say on any moves and get rid of Wise, he’s nothing but trouble.
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