Have Recruitment Team Stopped Their Work?


If Newcastle fans though that the departure of Tony Jimenez on Thursday would lead to unpopular figures Derek Llambias and Dennis Wise also leaving the club, it seems they will be disappointed.

Dennis Wise – we hope he’s continuing to work for his money

A Newcastle club source said today:

“There has been no indication from either Dennis Wise or Derek Llambias that they want to leave the club.”

“Nobody knows how long it is going to take the owner to sell and the management structure will remain in place until they are told otherwise.”

So if that’s true why did Jimenez leave? Tony left his highly paid £750K a year post on Thursday, and it seems he had spent the last three weeks not doing too much, because apparently Ashley no longer needed him to identify new players.

That’s not good news and we would have expected the Recruitment to keep doing their job and looking for new players that could be brought in during the January transfer window – that’s what they are being paid for, and we will surely need some new additions to our squad in January..

Jimenez had been hired because of his extensive contacts in European football, and we think Tony is good at what he does, but most of his contacts seem to be in Spain, where he was at Real Madrid before coming to Newcastle.

Nobody knows what Dennis Wise is doing at the moment as head of recruitment, and Dennis is said to be on a £1M a year deal at Newcastle, so probably isn’t too keen to move on. Wise also has some role with the Academy in pinpointing new young players that can be brought to the club.

We think the Recruitment team is a good idea, just as long as the manager has final say on all players coming and going at the club.  The manager is fully responsible, and is judged on the playing side of the club – so it only makes sense he has to have final say on all players – though maybe not the youngsters.

We see nothing much wrong with that structure.

But it’s rather disappointing if Dennis is sitting around doing nothing, because we would have thought the recruitment team would be going about their business as usual.

If they aren’t, then what’s the point of having them on the payroll of our club?

Comments welcome.



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18 comments so far

  • graeme

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed, just who says they have stopped work and are doing nothing?? More conjecture??

    The club needs players in January; thats a known fact. If MA hasnt sold the club by then, then its down to MA to obtain those players or relegation becomes a serious threat.

    If relegation threatens, his investment (NUFC) becomes worth less and less. It is therefore not in MA’s best interest to allow anthing to happen that will be detrimental to the club and its staus in the Premier league.

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  • selly no skill

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #2

    oh come off it ed.as if they are gonna walk.they arnt stupid.jimenez went because he isnt needed now and he probably will get another job with a big club again.wise and lambias will take the cash and why wouldnt they.i would.

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  • Benwell Lad

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #3

    Why have they stopped working. Sheesh!
    They get abuse off the morons who infest the internet and the clowns who are demonstrating against them at the match, then you act suprised that these people want nothing more to do with the club or the city!
    You are not very bright are you!

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  • The Entertainers

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #4

    This was something i brought up on here a few weeks ago.

    Its obvious Ashley is selling up, so why would he plough more cash into the club.

    There are cut backs all over the club and not just on the playing front.

    I know that Ashley has halfed the security team at SJP……..not that theres much silverwear to nick!

    So why doesnt Ashley do the right thing and lay off Wise etc, who lets face it are not short of cash. No instead Ashley is laying off hard working blue collar local lads n lassess!

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  • norn iron magpie

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #5

    I agree. How much would the club be worth in the championship? I think the recruitment team have done a good job. Im thinkin Bassong will be good with more experince. Havn’t seen much of Xisco. Spiderman looks shit hot.The manager needs the final say. Its him that gets judged by how many games he wins.

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  • Timberhead Toon

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #6

    We will only end up with loan signings and freebies. We will only finish about 16th or 17th, struggle with a relegation battle till the last week or two of the season.

    The mob have made it impossible to resolve the position we are in I hope there happy

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  • brownrob

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #7

    People talk about Wise ruining the club, take a look at the fans, who lost the rag, started protesting, and made Ashleys safety a risk at games… Now its going to take another 18 months…

    Who do some of you think you are? You have got what you wanted every time…

    First it was the big money signings, plenty of those, then you wanted Fat Fred out, got your wish, then you wanted Fat Sam out, started booing the team… got your wish, got KK back in, got your wish, KK walks after 8 months because he didnt get Henry and unrest from fans because Ashleys plan of slow progress wasnt fast enough a win % of 28% or something and all hell breaks loose…

    And they say the Lazio fans are bad…

    But the “real” fans are always innocent arent they… Time for them to tell me where they go…

    To say Im annoyed about the prospect of the club having three steps forward and now 4 steps backwards because of some fans is an understatement…

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  • norn iron magpie

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #8

    It wont be long til Wise guy has gone. I Wouldn’t worry. I like the players he brought in but i cant stand the man.

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  • spidey59

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #9

    ed was it not jeff vetere who was at real madrid and not tony jiminez. it was reported that jiminez was likely to stay in the world of football. wonder if he spings up at charlton wasnt it him who set up the meeting for ashley in the middle east with zabeel investments.

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  • toontony

    Oct 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Ashley has said he will not pump any more money into the club, kinnear even confirmed this in his interveiw 2 weeks ago.
    So what is the point in looking for new players,
    get real ashley will want to spend nothing now he is looking for a buyer..
    hope he sells before jan as nobody will be coming in and michael owen is free to talk to other clubs..

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  • Chris G

    Oct 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #11

    There’s an article in today’s Guardian about this, if anyone wants to read –
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/11/newcastleunited-premierleague

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  • Chris G

    Oct 11, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #12

    There’s an article about this on the Guardian website. I tried to post the link but it didn’t work, so here’s the text –

    The sudden departure of Newcastle United’s vice-president, Tony Jimenez, will not, it seems, spark the collapse of the “Cockney Mafia” management structure put in place by the owner, Mike Ashley. Newcastle fans had hoped Jimenez’s exit would lead to the departure of the managing director, Derek Llambias, and the executive director (football), Dennis Wise. But senior figures at St James’ Park are adamant that Jimenez’s desire to quit is not shared by the other key players in Ashley’s unpopular regime.

    A club source said: “There has been no indication from either Dennis Wise or Derek Llambias that they want to leave the club. Nobody knows how long it is going to take the owner to sell and the management structure will remain in place until they are told otherwise.”

    Jimenez left his £750,000-a-year post on Thursday as he realised he would not have a job if the club were sold. As the club’s main deal-maker, he had spent three weeks in limbo because Ashley no longer needed him to identify new players. Ashley, who is struggling to find a buyer to match his £300m asking price, does not plan to invest in the team even if he has failed to sell the club before the January transfer window. Jimenez had been hired because of his supposedly extensive contacts in European football, but his critics have pointed out these appeared to start and finish in Spain. Of the five players Newcastle signed in the summer, only the former Liverpool midfielder Danny Guthrie was not playing in La Liga.

    It is unknown whether Wise has anything more to do at present as head of recruitment, although the former England international does have wider responsibilities, including the overall control of the academy. With Ashley sidetracked by other business interests, Llambias is running the club on a day-to-day basis and is said to have been unaffected by the protests against the board. Although Ashley and Wise no longer attend Newcastle games because of the strength of feeling against them, Llambias sat next to the interim manager, Joe Kinnear, during last weekend’s 2-2 draw at Everton.

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  • Chris G

    Oct 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #13

    oops, looks like the link did work after all

    Sorry

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Oct 11, 2008 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #14

    7 brownrob – here we go again, blame the fans.

    Well what the fans should do, is let who ever runs the club run it the way they see fit, even if that means, destroying the playing staff, the club etc.

    What a load of tosh, we the fans are NUFC and without the fans who want a say in the club, it would not be a well supported club, so I say we can support the club in whatever way we want to and YES we have a say, all our US.

    My wish was for Kevin Keegan to stay and lam-bi-arse and the Wise Monkey to get out, but never got it.

    To say we get our wish is not true at all, results dictate our manager’s and quite frankly most of them have not cut it, yet Keegan was starting to get things right on the field and the owners chose to ignore that.

    That’s why I want Ashley out.

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Oct 11, 2008 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #15

    Keegan left cos he never got Henry, well that says it all doesn’t it, you have lost credibility there m8

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  • Ausgeordie

    Oct 11, 2008 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #16

    I want bobby robson back in in some role to assist the new manager. He got newcastle and was unfairly tossed and he could be a “tactical advisor and fan liason” at worst.

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  • chrisbx1

    Oct 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #17

    does anyone believe that anyone in this recruitment team has anyone to report to for the purchase of new players in the next transfer window? because if wise is head man and his boss is leaving then surely a new boss will require his own setup or will he be another Mcdermott and last forever with no-one knowing his role?

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  • DarkStar

    Oct 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #18

    Some right muppets posting on here.

    bet most of you are mackems too.

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