The London Evening Standard is reporting today that Kevin Keegan has begun legal proceedings against the Tyneside club demanding full payment of his three-and-a-half-year contract.
Kevin Keegan - suing Newcastle for 3 years of wages
When Keegan signed the deal last January, which we understand was for £3M a year, he was given full control of first team affairs, but Keegan believes that Dennis Wise’s role as Director of Football infringed upon the terms of that agreement, and that finally made his position untenable at the club.
The final day transfers of Xisco and Ignacio Gonzalez are thought to have been the last straw for Keegan, and he subsequently resigned from the club.
Ashley did try to save the situation with Keegan in a bid to resolve the dispute but no solution was reached. Joe Kinnear, the former Wimbledon manager, has since been appointed interim manager while the club look for new owners.
But this is now an interesting situation because no buyers would want to buy Newcastle with this hanging over their heads, and it looks like this deal may well be settled out of court, especially if the new owners want to restore Kevin Keegan as their new manager.
Either way we would be surprised if this finally goes to court, and Kevin can expect some resolution before December.
What do you think about this?
Comments very welcome, but please keep then decent - thanks.
124 responses so far ↓
1 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 11:53
He walked, we owe him NOWT.
2 Chris F // Oct 14, 2008 at 11:56
walked, pushed, jumped, it matters not.
if the terms of his contract were changed or infringed upon as a result other appointments the club made, then they broke the contract first, not him, so he’d be entitled to walk.
3 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 11:59
Contract or verbal agreement?
Again, we don’t really know, do we?
4 ryan peacock // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:01
hope he gets all he can out of ashley!
i either want keegan or hiddink as new manager when the takeover happens!
although IF joe stays unbeaten till then surely he has to be a contender?
5 ascot7 // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:02
Kevin is right to claim damages, he was placed in charge of Newcastle’ and was then undermined by Wisey !,,And Ashley laughed it off. Very sad indeedy. Kevin has a good case if it went to court, so if Ashley stays in football, he would of learned his lesson, to many chiefs, not enough indians.
6 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:03
Out of us man.
This is just gonna make MA selling the club a bit more difficult.
You can’t have it both ways.
7 No return for KK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:03
£3mil pretty much means any position is tenable. If he was going to resort to the court room he should have done it before walking.
8 Kash // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:03
If Keegan wins the £9m will he donate some to the transfer kitty?
9 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:05
If KK really cared about the club and its fans he would not be holding the sale of the club to ransom for his money. He walked and for 3mill a year I bet many of these fans on this site would have bit the bullet and continued in the job. For GS he did not even work with the players offered therefore I can not belive he gave judgement on players before even seeing them in training over a period of time (Mr Motivator)! If it did not work out after 18months than resign with 4.5mill in pocket. I really hope this story is not true because if it is KK goes down in my opinon.(I know you fans would hate me for that)
I think if this is true he should NEVER come back as coach! He would have lost faith with myself and other fans that think like me, lost faith in the players he has not even given a chance to and discourage the youth in the team as he for one IS bigger than the club which has been proven over the last few months so what chance do they have of empressing a quiter.
We should save the money fight him in court and use that money to secure MO!
10 No return for KK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:06
Clint is right. If this is true Keegan is slowing up any sale of the Club. If he thought he was really going to be brought back as our manager by a new owner why would he do that?
11 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:09
Aye, if KK does this, he’ll have gone down in my opinion too.
& he can go piss up a rope.
12 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:11
But alas,
this is all press bullshit, designed to derail the sale of the club.
It stinks of their decaying stench.
13 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:12
Ta, no return for KK.
14 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:12
Ryan that 9mill is not out of Ashley it is out of the fans, it will be included in the sell on price! Under no circumstances I feel KK had the right to walk out, I bet it was the smallest technicallities which he bitched about and triggered this downfall.
KK in my opinion is not welcomed back in SJP and any new owner will lose my respect right away if this happens. We need to look forward now not with weak owners giving in to fickle fans reminising on pass glories. FFS we are in 2008!
15 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:13
Well said ShearerBliss.
16 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:13
kk holding up the selling of the club over,9 mil?
get a grip.
17 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:14
Antone else with those views.
Grow a brain.
18 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:15
Anyone.
Der.
19 KevinHann // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:15
I am sick of such die-hard fans who support the club with all the passion in the world and no mind at all.
Keegan was, bar his legendary status, basicly an employee at Newcastle. As such he had certain obligations and rights - as every other worker. His obligations included taking responsibility for the results on the pitch. His rights clearly should (and obvioulsy were promised to Kevin when he signed) give him the opportunity to be responsible, and they clearly DID NOT.
Now for all those smartheads who think Keegan walked on us and committed the ultimate sin, think about what would have happened IF Kevin had remained onboard. He would have been humiliated both on and off the pitch by the sabotage crew of Dennis Wise, not allowing him to buy the players he needed to make a complete side (and we aren’t talking about Henry and Kaka here, we talk about a Left Back, for Christ’s sake! How many teams leave a hole in their lineups!?)
Most likely he would have been forced to scrap a decent side out of the remains after a massive wage-cut exodus - not build one, scrap one out of the nothing.
This would have lead to Newcastle losing a lot of games like we lost vs Arsenal. Due to Kevin’s man management skills, we would have finished comfortably above the relegation zone, but definitely out of the top 6, probably out of the top 10.
Don’t forget Keegan had a target set for him by his superiors - European qualification. He took that responsibility by talking about it in front of the fans.
So what happened? Unrealistic target by the board, decent as quality of the players, but poor as a team side, lack of communication in the club hierarchy. Keegan has been misguided. He didn’t come to steady the ship, and the more important thing, HE WASN’T TOLD he was in for that!
What do you do if you are a household football player and go to play abroad, sign a big contract and are promised a first team place, and then you don’t even make it to the bench for the first 10 games of the season? Would you just train hoping that the coach notices you?
Now add this to the example: you haven’t been played for 10 games and then the coach plays you. You have lost your match fitness and don’t score a hattrick, your side loses. The fans get on your back - he is a big signing, he doesn’t play, he doesn’t score when he does, he is a ****er.
Add to this: the coach gets annoyed with you and gives you a stern telling, instead of encouraging you and showing his support both personally and in the media.
Add to this: your coach is Alan Oliver.
How much do you have to love your club to stay in it in this situation?
Wouldn’t you express true feelings if you openly refuse to participate in any farce going on in it?
Wouldn’t you be a true Magpie if you act so that the situation is RESOLVED?
What all those Keegan-is-a-walker passionate, but mindless fans fail to perceive here is that Kevin actually CATALISED the freaking change of ownership which we ALL AGREE IS FOR THE GOOD!
Now those who will say you don’t sue Newcastle if you love it will fail to see you may sue those harming Newcastle OUT OF THE CLUB and do a good thing. For the sake of our beloved club, THINK before you talk!
20 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:15
Yes, i’m getting the growbag out as we speak.
21 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:16
so clint,shearbliss,who is going to take over as the new manager? i,ll tell you who absolutley no one.
no decent manager will take the job full stop.
22 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:17
Git bolshy yarbles.
23 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:18
You do it mate.
24 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:19
Well, lets see who buys the club first & try & stop trying to second guess every frigging move.
25 Steve // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:19
Habits die hard. KK has a history of walking out so I don’t believe we owe him anything. We all work with difficult people but you can still have a working relationship with them in those difficulties, something which KK should have tried to do, for the players sake at least. I for one do not want him back. We should be moving forward into a new era not going back for history to repeat it’s self all over again.
26 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:19
i,ll meet you with chain or noz or britva anytime.
27 CLINT FLICK // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:20
Nice one.
28 jules // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:21
Lets be clear he is not suing Ashley but NUFC, this can only hurt the club. I am a little disappointed in Keegan if this is true.
29 simon376 // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:23
Well said KevinHann, great to see some sense there!!!
30 Born Again Geordie // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:26
Its the LONDON evening standard therfore is probably made up ! Ignore it !!! move on
31 Chris // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:27
Rubbish. Keegan is trying to take the club to the cleaners. Ashley regardless, you don’t get compensation money when you walk out. He’s not the messiah he’s a very naughty boy. I certainly wouldn’t want him back.
32 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:28
not havin you aiming tolchocks at me reasonless,it stands to reason i wont have it.
33 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:30
keegan wont be doing this man, it is feckin paper taalk.
34 Chris // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:33
Keegan basically thinks he can do 8 months, walk and then get 9m?
35 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:36
“But this is now an interesting situation because no buyers would want to buy Newcastle with this hanging over their heads, and it looks like this deal may well be settled out of court, especially if the new owners want to restore Kevin Keegan as their new manager.”
LOL! How many sane owners would want Keegan hanging over their heads again? He could drag the deluded out to destroy their precious investment all over again at the drop of a hat.
36 Dave // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:37
If Keegan does this then it shows signs that he’s in this for the money and not interested in what is best for the club.
It would also mean to me that he is not going to be coming back as manager, how could you claim the next 3 years of wages and then sign a new contract for the same period???
I hope this is just paper talk as I for one want Keegan back but not if he’s more interested in filling his bank balance than what is best for this club.
37 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:40
K Hann lovely but you are missing one thing out if I was a player how could you get a contract promising you first team football. Only a div of a manager would promise that! as a team we play for each other, you must perform in training to get a CHANCE to play on sat. As a job and a pro YES I would train if I wasn’t getting played hence why you signed. If you want to be comfortable in any job just sit on your ass, but if you want to make something out of your life you MUST take risks. But as you said a BIG contract there for you are getting PAID ANYWAY!
Secondly you can get into europe other than finishing 5th look at man city fair play, cup competions etc. So you need a bit more intligence in the game now.(I hate to say this but this is were Big Sam is a far better coach for the modern game than NUFC fans gave him cridit for!)
So in short KK IS a quitter, I do not always like my job, my job does not always go by it’s contract with me and things do change commercially and finacially at work BUT because I am in the real world and would never see that type of money in my LIFE I MUST WORK! NO BITCHING!
I would have not walked I would have bit the bullet say boys we have not got a LB but crack on we have a season to play for. We have kids who we could blood in, we have Bassong who can play mulitiple positions, we have Enrique and zog could fill in. Lets go attack this leaugue and show we can work as a team even if I do not like it. MA and DW are not the enemy! I do not here JK complaining and other teams in the Prem see us as an advantage off the field not on it.
PS his walk out did not start the change the fans did! He had given up when we played Chelski at the last home game of the season saying we were not good enough (Mr. Motivator! Ha Ha)
38 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:47
As I wrote in an earlier post, Keegan is going for out of court settlement. He knows that he has little chance if it goes to law.
39 The holey grail // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:49
I dont understand how when a story comes out about “King” kev (wanting money from us THE REAL FANS, not MA) everyone says its the london press he wouldnt do that, yet every time some one had something bad to say about ashley where did you hear it. . . . .London press,
so you belive it when you want to it doesnt make sence. money speaks louder than words in football, us newcastle fans should know that more than most with the amount we have waisted. KK doesnt care about newcastle, he is a mediocer manager at best proved by man city and fulham job, i for 1 will be glad when we move on from re-living the past and move on to the future who ever that may be.
40 Nick // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:52
If true and it’s a big if, it lends credibility to the rumours that Kk’s departure was contrived and manufactured for just such a scenario. Eg Kk’s business is failing and he was 2m in the hole.
41 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:52
“keegan wont be doing this man, it is feckin paper taalk.”
No it isn’t skin d. I’ve been telling everyone for weeks here that Keegan was suing the club for £8 million (the balance of his whole contract), not the £2 million previously quoted, but none of the Keegan fantasists believed me.
42 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 12:55
It has nothing to do with sense Holey Grail. It’s about delusion and denial.
43 lesh // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:15
On Kinnear’s arrival to Newcastle he instantly disassociated himself with any references or links to the Cockney Mafia.
From the Chronicle……..
It’s also understood that there has been no communication between Kinnear or Dennis Wise, while the ex-Luton Town manager revealed last week he had never even met Tony Jimenez.
Well, if Joe’s that lucky, then it augers well for Man City and Sunderland.
Have a look at the article, it presents a very fair picture of Joe and I for one, wish him well!
44 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:18
put it one way i,d believe kk every time over fat ashley,and it is not paper taalk that the club is in a mess through ashley.
so fly away peter fly away paul go and bang your head against a f##king wall.
45 Robby Bobson // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:19
If he does sue the club then it shows that he doesnt really love the club, as although he left us in this turmoil, its understandable as he was forced out, but now to slow up the sale and the progression of the club, i coudlnt support him anymore.
Although i dont believe it as it just seems like Southern press crap.
46 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:20
paul how long have you been on ashley,s payroll?.
47 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:24
That’s right skin d, logic and reasoned debate is beyond you, so you make silly accusations out of frustration with your own intellect.
48 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:24
paul i have sussed you your that knacker stardust under another name.
49 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:25
…and the fact that your argument is bankrupt.
50 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:26
No you haven’t skin d, your just deflecting the argument beyond reasonable debate.
51 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:27
so stardust err paul has mike ashley not f###ed up the club?.
im talking about long before keegan even came in,he,s done nothing for newcastle united from the start.
52 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:30
Not really, people like you have damaged the club far more.
53 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:30
there is no argument stardust,just my logic tells me that i never liked mike ashley since he took over.
i have stuck to my guns over the last 17 month ,and in the end i have been proved right.
54 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:32
how have i wrecked the club stardust?next you will be saying i am one of the bedsheet brigade.
55 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:41
stardust you really need to get over the small man syndrome,it is not my fault your only 5ft5.
56 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:46
Paul’s right skin D, you may relise that when you eventually climb out of KK ass!
57 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:53
shearbliss i am neither for or against keegan get your facts straight for a start.
was it not ashley who brought keegan back in the first place.
why because fat boy couldn,t find anyone that would take the job.
the only person i am against is ashley,so before you have a go , get your f##king facts straight.
58 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 13:57
shearbliss it,s people like you mentioning managers names this morning like hiddink etc who are deluded.
you still seem to think we can attract these people,your havin a bubble .
59 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:02
skin d, So if this has nothing to do with Keegan, what exactly is it that you have against Ashley’s stewardship of the club?
60 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:08
… apart from “my logic tells me that i never liked mike ashley since he took over”.
LOL!
61 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:10
lack of leadership,lack of investment,lies etc.
running newcastle like a championship club.
putting in place an unworkable structure,and yes i dont think any manager would have put up with it let alone keegan.
62 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:13
i made a mistake stardust ,i am not the best typist in the world,so how do you see your keyboard sit on a couple of crates on top of your chair.
seeing that your only 5ft5.
63 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:22
See all the anti-keegans fans jumping on this and saying see I told you so .. very infantile.
Firstly - is it true - no proof
Secondly- came from the gutter press.
I can’t wait till fans can have a debate on whether the manager is getting the best out of the team rather than MA and his thieves driving sane supporters mad with his greedy antics..
64 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:24
Skin d I did not say Hiddink to come to NUFC so get your f**king facts straight!
Anyway unless KK is still employed by NUFC he has had a chance to come out and put his side in the open so I can not belive KK over anyone! This means the papers have got some truth to it because KK wants compo and must not talk till a judgement is made.
I do agree it was ashley that brought in KK to appease the fans and that WAS a big mistake.
But the new owners have to do what is best for there model of a successful club and I hope KK is not involved.
Ashley does have a good model but you would not be able to see pass your rose tinted glasses! He has invested but not the way YOU want him too.
Finally there are managers out there that would put up with this system but not KK and it is a shame because he proved to everyone now that when the shit hits th fan he would RUN!
65 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:27
sweendog i understand that this minute in time that kk is probably the only man for the job.
this is due to the fact,that no one else will be given the time to suceed.
long term kk is maybe not the answer,in terms of challenging for trophies etc.
but i agree with you there is too many anti keeganites on thie board.
66 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:30
sorry shearbliss i just remember your name around some comments earlier,if i am wrong i appologise.
67 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:34
shearbliss the model ashley was on about,is okay in theory,if you trust the person saying it.
it just came across to me that ashley was using that approach to make money out of the club ,but not for the good of the club if you know what i mean.
68 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:37
Shearerbliss .. heres Ashleys model
Fat boy to eat loads of pies, bleed club dry, take credit for youth system that Roeder etc had worked on and improved already.
Drive out best manager newcastle had in recent years.
Pretend to invest in club but take all money, don’t invest in players.
Hire hateful midgets (wise)to collect money from sales of key players (milner etc)..
Sell club for loads more money so I can have champagne parties and pretend to be a geordie..
69 Will // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:41
press garbage to disrupt sale and the return of Keegan anyone? London Evening Standard a bit pished at us geordies for the cockney abuse?
haha pathetic w”*^ers
70 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:44
your defo right sweendog ashley was never here for good reasons.
71 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:47
i am sure the person calling themselves paul is that condesending prick stardust.
72 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:48
Appology accepted skin d! Sween dog I agree, but alot of us are not anti keegan. I for one would have liked him to have just come and say his piece on the 1st september, explain to the fans his hands where tied all summer and get on with getting the best out of the team he had. Personally I think we put together an alright team to get us to the next window and we could then analise the situation. But he could not even do that. Alot of managers (even though people do not belive) look at NUFC and would love to be in control of stars like MO, ZOG, Oba,Given, Jonas and the group af kids MA and DW brought in look at JK, best set of players he is ever worked with and his been in the game just as long. I just feel KK could not or wasn’t willing to work with the hand he was dealt.
I know I am a minority but in the long term vision of what MA said I bought into it! I would have just liked people to have given him so time, he did plung over 100 mill into the club to restucture it,s debt and I think that was the right move. It sounds like most of you are say he should have said I want instant success (which he did say at the begining,short,med,and long term structure) and wanted him to pay fortunes in today’s markets when someone like MA with his pulse on the finances saw a credit crunch long before it would have happened.
We are on better financial grounds now because of MA and I for one thank him for that!
Short: Get NUFC on firm financial ground, give them a manager they would give time too.
Med: Eventually over next3-5 years phase out DOF and give a younger manager the reins of NUFC
Long: Make a winning self functioning team with stars from the area and through our youth set up freeing up cash for stars who are ready to peak.
Make sense to me!
73 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:52
Shearerbliss .. this is our spoonfed idea of Ashleys plan, I actually bought into this until I couldn#t back up anything with facts .. ie has he invested, no .. he has only underwritten the money so he hasn’t put a penny into newcastle
He real actual plan has panned out pretty well
Short - get in Keegan to distract fans while I steal all the clubs money
Medium - Steal all the money - p**s of keegan
Long - Sell club and get more money from sale.
Crack open the champagne Keith .
Ashley is a greedy leeche
74 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:54
shearbliss in the short term,ashley should have shown some good faith ,and invested some money in the squad.
75 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 14:57
Sween dog you did not expect a person to put in 1/4 of billion into a club with know return in the long run. Now that is deluded! If you could name one sucsessful story for an owner who runs a buisness at huge lossess as what you are talking about I would eat my words.
MUFC-£650 mill in DEBT
Ars:DEBT
Chelsea:DEBT
Liver: Can afford a stadia = DEBT
NUFC: Manageable outside of Europe = SECURE
MA would have NOT drove his investment into the ground and it still would have took years to make a profit if we were not in Europe. I belive he bought into our dream. KK and the fans might have let him down though unrealistic expectations like all the managers that we had. I belive many other clubs in this leauge and below would LOVE a MA as owner.
I really dont see it getting any better and quicker in the future. We will be doing the same to another person in a years time. TRUST ME!
76 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:02
“lack of leadership,lack of investment,lies etc.
running newcastle like a championship club.
putting in place an unworkable structure,and yes i dont think any manager would have put up with it let alone keegan.”
Do you have specific examples? Mere accusations without something to back them up doesn’t really mean alot.
BTW The ‘Stardust’ thing is getting very boring now, you are just making a fool of yourself.
77 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:06
how am i making a fool of myself ,i,ve called you stardust on a number of occassions and you have not denied it.
you just come across like that prick stardust.
78 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:07
Shearerbliss .. unfortunately as you back Ashley I don’t trust you as it just doesn’t make sense to support somebody who is technically stealing money from you everytime you support your club.
79 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:09
paul ,stardust judging by the state we are in ,there is truth to it .
ashley,s the owner the buck stops with him.
i could say the same to you about your assumptions about things.
where is your proof that it is not ashley,s fault.
80 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:12
That’s because it’s just too childish and puerile to bother with really skin d. As I mentioned earlier, your arguments are bankrupt, so you have to deflect the subject onto something else in an effort to discredit me that way. It’s a very old trick which has been used many times before.
81 Danny Duckfoot // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:16
Paul, are you retarded?
Ive never seen so much shit talked by one bloke in my life.
Ashley has had long enough to change the stucture of the club.
He’s failed miserably.
Get a grip you silly little bitch.
82 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:16
Paul you may not be stardust but you are clearly blind..
ashley is good for the club etc
Open them 2 things you have on the top of your head and judge ashley on what you see ..
not some manufactured thrash that is written in the papers ..
83 keegan was king // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:17
the stucture probably would work if it was someone the manager could get along with. it says a lot bout wise’s character when he is still at the club when hes obviously not wanted he thinks he is better then the club and will stay for the payout
84 Danny Duckfoot // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:18
Dennis Wise & Llambias, great choices to run a prem club……really?
85 Danny Duckfoot // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:20
come on paul-the shit talker, talk some more, so we can rip the piss out of yer.
86 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:21
keegan was king .. yep
If the structure was clearly defined, everyone knew their place no problem.
In business this is how it works
Now if people don’t know what their role is, people consistently get undermined and you hire your mates … now this doesn’t work .. this was Ashleys model.. now can he please get out and take his 40mill blood money for trying to ruin our club.
87 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:21
danny the guy doesn,t back up anything he says ,it,s just negative comments all the time.
then he tries to bamboozle you with bull,can you remember that guy that used to come on calling himself stardust,it is him calling himself paul.
paul stardust you are a complete prick end of story.
88 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:23
here stardust how,s the porcelin yacht business gannin?.
89 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:24
Sween dog here is some facts to back it up.
Bought a club with in debt and with highly paid underachieving and injuried stars. Therefore he had a wage bill to pay and pay the contracts of BS army of workers. He improved the clubs benton base training ground with a large scaffold for another one of BS gadgets prostats or what ever you call it also this was installed and upgraded in the stadium.
He then backed BS £9MILL in the market (I know it is not alot but he had just paid over £100 mill for the club). With that money BS spent on JB a thug what a waste! Also some good ones Beye! He then started to invest in the youth system (bringing in a few sighnings) and as you said Underwright the debt (I don’t know what it means with out spending your hard earned money so help me out sween dog) He recived cash from sky and ticket sales only as it was reveled that sponership money was already spent and allocations of the season tickets.
6 months into the job the FANS are calling for the head of BS. MA delivers paying out a huge compo bill for BS services and all his backroom including our then assistant manager.
Stuck now cus he lisien to the fans rushes in his model that he had been pushing from the start and delivered the messiah back to the fans.
Coming up to end of transfer window Woodgate turns us down!
Results start to pick up eventually with jail iment for JB and KK says we have NO chance of making it with the BIG boys. (eg get your checkbook out MA)
Modric turns us down,JB goes jail still paid under contract, MO holding out for as much money he could get, KK saying I need more, Credit crisis around the corner.
I say MA has paid more than taken out of NUFC. I personally would sell for the biggest profit I could get and leave all those problems to a new owner!
Now would you buy into NUFC!
90 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:24
skin d .. smashing no doubt
91 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:25
whatever anyone thinks of kevin keegan,does dennis wise know more than keegan about running a club,does he f##k.
92 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:28
I am not backing Ashley I am just telling the facts that you want. I am just not jumping on the hate ashley bus and KK has done nothing wrong!
And he does not steal money any diffrent from all the clubs I have been to around the UK. Now Sky Sports that is stealing my money hearing anti NUFC everytime I tune in!
93 skin d // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:28
apparently that,s stardust,s sideline selling bath tubs,he calls them porcelin yachts.
94 iain // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:34
it would have to factored into teh sale if the club otherwise
the new owners could just agree to pay out as its not there dispute then sue ashley for the money.
7 interested parties is about 6 more interested than when every other pl club has been sold recently.
95 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:36
Shearerbliss .. lets highlight the issue he has underwritten the debt .. he has never once put his hand in his pocket .. he has only used the clubs money to get players, pay off fat Sam etc.
So seeing as he has done nothing money wise .. what actually has he done ..
Ruin our club, undermine the manager, hire his friends, turn us into a laughing stock, drink beer, eat pies .. spend the clubs money, etc etc etc
The list is endless .. he is a totally corrupt business man and the sooner he leaves the better.
96 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:39
You have convinced me sween dog!
97 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:40
Shearerbliss .. granted ashley is the owner but you have a choice whether you think you should back him .. I used to think he had the potential to be good for the but he has let me down on countless crucial times .. now I’m not easily influenced, and I’m going on confirmed problems he has caused, sacking/forcing Keegan to go, not backing the manager and not investing in the club .. taxi for fat boy…
98 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:41
Shearerbliss .. apologies I’m ranting again
99 Paul // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:50
Sweendog, do you actually know what ‘underwrite’ means?
100 Toon_Ksk // Oct 14, 2008 at 15:54
If KK sues the club, that means the board has breached the agreement first set. That also means he has the right to walk out.
101 sweendog // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:03
Paul .. its to put in place guarantees a loan is paid back ..it isn’t to actually pay back the debt.
Paul to you know what greedy owner means??
102 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:08
That is true to an extent toon ksk, but it has to be in extreme circumstances usually. Sometimes rules can be breached without suing. This is a bit extreme. I think that what ever was said in the heat of the argument is the basis of this suit. For example I feel KK demands feel on deaf ears in the boardroom, and was threatend that if he walked it would cause him money. That explans why he was around still a week later. after failing to show up for work he was in breach of his contract which open the door for him to leave. even the LMA has not stated that he was sacked, just not able to do his job. In the court I think it will go against him, but the problem with that is that he may have to pay MA for breach of contract!
103 Michael12 // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:26
KK is not suing Mike Ashley but is suing Newcastle united. KK was not under Mike Ashley’s employ but was under the employ of Newcastle. He cannot sue Mike Ashley but he can attempt to sue Newcastle.
The contract he was offered was offered by Newcastle not Ashely.
Get your facts right and stop defending him with your ignorance.
104 Davies // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:35
Keegan loves the club, so he walks out. Keegan loves the club, so he comes back. Keegand loves the club, so he walks again. Keegan loves the club he’s suing for £9m and making it potential to investors who might be put off by his current course of action.
Bless Keegan.
I bet he’ll love his nine million quid more than he loves the club, you, me, them, everybody, everybody.
If he loved the club that much, he would have found a middle ground with Mike Ashley and sorted this all out rather than walking again.
Please don’t tell me his position was untenable. He was getting £3m a year to put up with Wise & Co’s crap. We’re quick enough to say the players should put the problems behind them when they step on to the pitch because of the money they are paid to do so. Keegan should have choked it down rather than, yet again, spitting the dummy.
I don’t want him back because, what ever you say about Mike Ashley’s credibility, Keegans is now all gone. The rest of the world laughed aloud at the sentimental foolishness of bringing back the manager that did so well before quitting every management job he’s had and retiring to his football circus for three years.
In one swift tantrum, Keegan proved all of the doubters absolutely correct. The Sun, The Mirror, The Mail and the millions of websites who have been laughing at us. All of them.
Thanks King Kev, you truly are a Geordie legend.
105 Jamie G // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:38
Keegan was the one who said when Wise etc were appointed that it was one of the reasons why he was so keen to rejoin the club.
I think the man came back to newcastle for money and it is still his driving force, as it is commonly known that his failed soccer circus in Glasgow bled him dry.
106 irish_al // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:44
Davies- rather harsh but i find it hard to argue
Kevin Keegan, ridiculed by the board? = resigned
Joe Kinnear, ridiculed by the press! =
stood up to them
i find it hard to say Keegan did or dit not have reason to walk only a handful of people are actually aware of the real situation, and no doubt their opinions will vary
maybe it is more a case that things didn’t work out due to failings on both sides, this is the view i currently hold, can’t back it up with evidence but neither have i seen anything to disagree with it
107 Macas // Oct 14, 2008 at 16:47
Actually most of the papers were behind Keegan and were slagging off Ashley, the man who made us a laughing stock with his incredible incompetence and blatant lies.
108 Shearerbliss // Oct 14, 2008 at 17:02
Davis your star! For 3mill a year I would quite easily take s**t from my collegues. His job get results, and for 3 mill boy I would get aresults even if the youth team were playing.
109 capt. darlin // Oct 14, 2008 at 18:47
If the report is true Keegan is a utter disgrace and is down there with Allerdyce and Souness in my opinion.
He says he loves the club, fans, the city etc…. What by tryin to take £9m of fans money to line his own pockets. He s the one that walked out and left us in the mess we re in now.
110 ronjohno // Oct 14, 2008 at 19:09
KK has allegedly distanced himself from the reported comments. See Daily Telegraph.
111 wigaz // Oct 14, 2008 at 22:14
F**k KK!!! he walked & thats that! lets sell to mega rich owners, bring in Hiddink who signs Arshavin in Jan, sorted. Lets dream of what team could be.
=========Given======
Beye==Woodgate==Agger=Bridge
Jonas====Xavi=====Zirkov=
=======Arshavin========
=====Ashton===Owen=====
Now that will do me! Most players realistic targets too! if we have cash to play with & Hiddink as gaffer.
112 LBToon // Oct 14, 2008 at 22:48
KK finally shows his stripes. We now know he was only in it for the money. Too bad, 9 mil could have gotten us a decent player in Jan. KK before club, I guess…at least in his mind. If he comes back, I’ll make sure not to spend another quid at the club.
113 Toon_Ksk // Oct 14, 2008 at 23:16
Wigaz, what are u smoking?
114 Thump // Oct 14, 2008 at 23:58
@Toon_Ksk: I don’t know what he’s smoking, but I’d like some of it.
115 clinta // Oct 15, 2008 at 0:54
Well i hope it all goes to court and in the end he rightly gets what he’s entitled to, which is nothing. that way it will be difficult for any new owner to bring him back as manager which would surely be a disaster anyways.
116 Dannufc // Oct 15, 2008 at 1:11
Hes clearly smoking crack cmon Agger er no joint second best defender for LFC. And woodgate looks soo bad lately really does!
Ashton is always injured
117 mikeygd // Oct 15, 2008 at 2:17
wat a load of rubbish, bring back freddy shepherd! lol
118 mikeygd // Oct 15, 2008 at 2:23
can we all just agree that mike ashleys a twa-t , tony jiminez is a twa-t that derek is a twa-t , wise-y is a twa-t and if keegan sues our club like reported then he also is a twa-t
Please bring me new owners, new manager and a team with pace.
ahmen.
p.s don’t call me a twa-t
119 Markus // Oct 15, 2008 at 2:49
I understand perfectly the reason that Keegan has sued for whatever amount at this point of time. The money will be taken off the sales price as would happen in any company buyout transaction. To me its suspicious it has happened now but then it may be a political ploy by the buyers and not KK himself. That appears to me to be the most logical explanation especially with the current economic climate and lack of ready cash. Although KK could always have decided to put the boot in, since he is emotional after all, which is his strength and weakness (as it is for all us Toon fans). To me the lowest price that is paid for Newcastle is the best. MA loses because he thinks small minded, the new owners have more money to invest and Newcastle ae not cheering on the likes of a Kinnear II skillful team.
120 Ian // Oct 15, 2008 at 11:04
I agree with others, as an employee Keegan has the right to claim compensation from them. Keegan has a reputation to maintain as it is the only thing that gains him employment and an income, look at Sam a top career ruined by false promises, Keegan cannot afford to let it drop the case will throw everything out in the open, but if you were unsure about Keegan’s football reputation there isnt a single football manager, and I havent heard a player criticise him for his actions, they all appear to think he couldnt work under those circumstances.
Daft that argument that Keegan is claiming from the club and not Ashley, Ashley owns the club lock stock and barrel it isnt a plc.
121 scott9 // Oct 15, 2008 at 11:45
wot ever he is smokin toonksk i want some of it
122 SpartanChris // Oct 15, 2008 at 12:39
The LMA have said that they appointed a legal team for Keegan, and this will primarily be to counteract any legal action that the club will take against him. The club, strictly speaking are entitled to sue Keegan for breach of contract as he resigned before the contract had expired. Keegan will have been advised to sue the club on the grounds of constructive dismissal in order to challenge any legal action taken by the club. This sue and countersue practice is very common in business and it just happens that Keegan’s lawsuit has broken to the press first. This is not to say that the club have already not already started proceedings against Keegan.
123 Ian // Oct 15, 2008 at 12:55
good point spartanchris.
The way the board have conducted themselves I will be amazed if Keegan doesnt win, I can imagine their handling of this will be as sloppy as everything else they have done.
124 Paul // Oct 15, 2008 at 15:10
Ian, the judge won’t be a Keegan worshipper, and he has very little chance according to the law as he was employed for less than 12months. Keegan and his representatives are trying to use the use the current turmoil at the club to force an out of court settlement from NUFC.
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