Kinnear Asks Referee To Rescind Beye Red Card


Newcastle United interim manager Joe Kinnear has asked referee Rob Styles to rescind the red card he gave to Habib Beye, after just 14 minutes, in the 2-2 draw with Manchester City at St. James’ Park last night.

Habib Beye – likely to miss Sunderland game

Kinnear told BBC Sport:

“When he has a look and sees it was a fair tackle I hope he’ll be good enough to adjust the decision that he has made.” “It’s a hard thing to do, but sometimes it’s the truth that comes out.”

If the red card is not rescinded it means Beye’s come-back is short-lived and he will have to sit out the important game at Sunderland on Saturday. And it’s rather rare that red cards are rescinded, but we should hear the result within a day or two.

Kinnear continued:

“It’s not the penalty that I’m worried about, it’s the suspension, the loss of the player. We’re in a position where that’s the last thing we need to happen to us,” “We’ve worked on a lot of things – belief and organization are two of many things – and the players have been very receptive to anything we’ve put their way,”

“The players are thinking more, there is more chat, more organization on the pitch. They were a very quiet set of lads when I came but now we seem to have people who are prepared to take responsibility on the pitch.” “That all comes with results. People go into their shells when things are going badly. You have to bring the best out of players. You have to sit down with most of them individually because they’ve all got different personalities.”

“I’m really pleased and I feel we’re on the up. We’ve got key players coming back. We’ve got a massive game to look forward to next week and we’re going into that game with two decent results.”

It was a great display from the Newcastle side tonight, given the unfortunate circumstances, but we still could have done with all 3 points, and it’s such a pity that City equalized with just 3 minutes remaining of normal time.

To hear Manchester City manager Mark Hughes talk to Sky Sports after the game, it seemed like everything went against City and Newcastle got two lucky goals right out of the blue. Mark – let us remind you that it was Newcastle who were the team that were reduced to ten men.

But of course Hughes is now in the unenviable position of having to get wins, because otherwise his job will be probably be at risk, from their new billionaire owners.

We wonder which game he was watching. But there’s one thing that was plain to see, and that was Hughes’ star team were outfought by a hungry Newcastle United side, even with just 10 men.

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102 comments so far

  • Hilly

    Oct 21, 2008 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #1

    I agree, if John Terry’s red card can get rescinded, Beye’s should as well. We need him for future games and luckily enough, this result turned out decently.

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  • Warwick Hunt

    Oct 21, 2008 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #2

    Every coach and manager that has worked with Shola have openly stated that he has huge potential, maybe JK is the man to bring that potential to the playing field.
    I was very impressed that Shola managed to trick their keeper into thinking that he was going to blast it, then deftly sliced it into the back of the net. Well done to Shola, I sincerely hope and pray that this is the chance he takes, he truely loves NUFC.

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  • Warwick Hunt

    Oct 21, 2008 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #3

    If that tackle had been made by one of the premier golden boys at Chelsea, Man U or Arsenal they would be talking for months on what a good challenge it was. But alas it was Beye playing for NUFC and it was a penalty.
    I watched Setanta tonight and can’t believe Poll backed Stiles on that decision, fair enough Stiles view was resricted but Poll having watched replays still insisted it was the correct decision? He didn’t even have the dignity to say ‘it wasn’t a poor decision, just the wrong decision’.

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  • Rorycn

    Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #4

    Does anyone else think duff has been really good for us this year?

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  • Aussie Magpie Fan

    Oct 21, 2008 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #5

    When the ref (blind git) blew for the pentaly and sent Beye off, I imediately thought… here we go again…… But to my pleasant surprise our boy’s played with two ingredients that we haven’t seen enough of over the past years… Heart and Guts..
    They ran their a*ses off and really competed for every contest…. feeling very proud at the moment!!!… One more thing…. at least it wasn’t Nicky Butt giving away the penalty this time… Beye will be right for the next match, I reckon… common sense must surely prevail!!..

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  • john b

    Oct 21, 2008 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #6

    I was at the game tonight. Well played toon army for staying with the lads all night, was the loudest SJP I’ve heard in a long time.

    Thought we had the 3 points, but still a great fighting spirit shown from the whole team, not alot of quality I gotta say but lots of positives to take from it.

    Warwick Hunt, I admire your patience with Ameobi, but that goal was a complete miscue, and as usual he walked around tonight giving away fouls and being needlessly offside. He doesn’t understand the meaning of ‘taking a gamble’ as a striker and making those instinctive runs and has no pace at all. He is a Div 1 player at best, best of luck to him of course…

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  • stumpofthetoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 1:59 AM

    Comment #7

    i was at the match tonight season ticket holder for many years. and i thought carol blew it for us tonight not willing to back track at all discrace get him out

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  • I havent been Shola’s biggest fan but after the sending off he led the line by himself. He held the ball up and won free kicks to ease the pressure. Mishit or not the goal got us back in the game and it changed the outcome of the whole match. He put in a good shift aswell and had to come off with cramp in the end.

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  • Isaac Hunt

    Oct 21, 2008 at 2:24 AM

    Comment #9

    I thought that Ameobi played to the best of his abilities last night. He was battered and bruised at the end, but he was a total nusiance to their entire back four. He got a great cross in but Martins was on his todd and a great chance was lost.

    I think that Citeh were badly organised in the middle of the park while we were the opposite. OK, Butt let a few passes go astray, but he kept things together.

    Our version of Vinnie Jones is ready to play now. I wonder what he will do their kid, Kenwin, at the weekend. 🙂

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  • neeraj

    Oct 21, 2008 at 4:17 AM

    Comment #10

    johnb if i am not wrong you were watching nufc vs mcfc rite….

    the one with a cry baby on the pitch(tipped to be next pele)

    ameobi was very good last nite…..

    he won almost everything in air, gave a gr8 through pass for duff
    and when u are there as a lone striker and play a tough game u would give out some free kicks, did u forget how many free kicks we got yesterday…..

    so just enlighten a bit

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  • cyprus mag

    Oct 21, 2008 at 6:09 AM

    Comment #11

    Neeaj,
    your wasting your time talking to some of these so called supporters, they’ve got a down on Ameobi and no matter what he does they will criticize. Imagine the reaction if it had been him not Duff that missed the sitter.

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  • AltaBatalJoneN

    Oct 21, 2008 at 6:30 AM

    Comment #12

    neeraj- I agree.. johnb is wrong!!
    I’m not a big fan of shola, but he was great last night. He played alone upfront, got the ball, held it up, won us many freekicks and that was the only thing he could do.. He is no f..ing Walcott who could take on the whole back-4 with his pace.. he is a similar type of player as Aston Villas Carew. except that Carew plays with confidence being a regular starter for years.

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  • lesh

    Oct 21, 2008 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #13

    C’mon guys, Shola scored a decisive goal so give him the credit he deserves!

    A disappointing one but a great result nevertheless.

    Well done lads…. oh and joe for geeing them on.

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  • BenjiToon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 8:22 AM

    Comment #14

    I haven’t commented on here for a while – I was just watching and waiting to see what Kinnear would achieve after a few weeks in the hot seat.

    Well, I apologise Joe if I called you second-rate when you were appointed. I always thought you were a good bloke for taking the job but now I realise you actually have something we need – passion. Passion you can transfer to the players, and the ability to get them talking to each other too. Great.

    Last night we looked like a different team. In recent years we would have crumbled after the sending off and penalty. And make no mistake Man City looked a good side, with goals in them. But we played so well with 10 men and deserved AT LEAST a point.

    On Beye – never a sending off or penalty and red card should be rescinded, absolutely.

    On Shola – a different player last night, committed and strong. Fully deserved to score. The new John Fashnau anyone? (Can’t believe I just said that!)

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  • Toon Graeme

    Oct 21, 2008 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #15

    I was watching Setanta after the match and Pole and the commentator arguing was quality tv.

    From the camera angle from where Styles saw the tackle it doesnt hold good and if that what the review board go with then it will stand.

    However, what was the linesman doing and or seeing. He would have had 100% unobstructed view.

    I hope that it gets overturned or it by by beye for 3 matches.

    I was kacking myself for a vast majority of the match, but we played well for a ten man team.

    Whats done is done and its mackems away next.

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  • ronaldeano

    Oct 21, 2008 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #16

    I cant see Rob ‘pig’ styles recinding the red card, the whole crowd were chanting the referee’s a wa**er!!

    Why would he do us any favours after that 🙁

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Oct 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #17

    Toon Graeme-i was really surprised with burley standing up for us, he slaughtered the ref and then poll after the game in their wee stand off.
    He then moved onto the linesman, saying something like
    “the linesman isnt even level with the play, what is he doing. he’s supposed to assist the game, what is that all about”.
    he bashed the other linesman during the game, when shola was clearly tripped, on the line, about a foot away from him, and he didnt flag for the free kick. he almost seemed quite genuinly angry about how terrible the officiating was, good on him. i complained to setanta after his comments at arsenal but he was certainly correct last night which im sure we were all greatful for. For once, a commentator/pundit getting behind us, and standing behind us even when he was opposed.

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  • Mark

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #18

    “that he was going to blast it, then deftly sliced it into the back of the net” yeh coz he sliced it on purpose lol

    ameobi might be injured now though..hope carroll doesnt start for him..carroll seems like a slower version of ameobi

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  • rooks

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #19

    personally I thought Ameobi was poor – his normal gangly trotting style. I want attackers that attack, not try to hold the ball up every time they get it. And Carroll was simply awful.

    Collocinni on the other hand was immense & I even though Geremi had a good game.

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  • AndyNUFC

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #20

    Bringing on 19 year old Carroll instead of Xisco clearly shows Kinnear hasn’t any faith in his ability, which I thought was the wrong move.
    Xisco and Carroll brought the option of height to the bench, to replace Ameobi, so why wasn’t Ranger on the bench instead of one of them 2? That way we would have had a strike option of pace or height, and Ranger’s been banging them in lately.

    Good result for a 10 man team, and bitterly disappointed that we couldn’t hold on for another 7 minutes. I have the strong feeling that the red card will not be overturned, so watch this space.

    4 goals against the mackems and we go above them, howay Oba, hat trick for you and a goal for Jonas.

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #21

    Aye.. I’d like to see Ranger have a decent 20mins in the first team! 9 goals in all competitions so far.. Mind, that was Carroll last season

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #22

    I reckon Andy Carroll is a bit gash as well like.. Who’d you rather started Shola or Carroll?

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  • AndyNUFC

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #23

    Aye but Carroll could easily bang in 9 goals just because of his height at that level, but Ranger seems to have some pace and skill.

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  • ToonRich

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #24

    Just to comment on all the penalty stuff…Rob Stiles MUST rescind the card. He didnt do his job – as Birley stated in his commentary, the ref made no attempt to keep up with play, which the lead to him having the awful positioning to make the decision. I wish the FA would do something about all these incapable refs and their linesmen. The whole team of officials were pathetic lastnight, and dont deserve to be in that job. I’ve had better ref’s in sunday league games!!

    Although Shola was committed, I’d have like to see him close down the defence a bit quicker, there were some parts where he looked really disinterested. Good on the lad for being in the right place to slice the ball in for the goal though 🙂 Also, I thought he was a menace, and caused the citeh def some real problems.

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  • wigaz

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #25

    He should coz it was terrible decision! tony adams used to make tackles just like that week in week out & he’s still classed by some as best def that played in prem, how long would he last in this soft league we have now! be sent off every other week! the refs have ruined our league! give far too much protection to fancy dan players like Robinio & Ronaldo. I’m a Mid & i used to look forward to watchin Man U vs Arsenal or should i say Keane vs Veira, 2 warriors playing with fire in their eyes & passion in their hearts. There is not many players like this in our league anymore coz they cant tackle without some prick ref wanting to make a name for himself & sending them off! Barton is the closest type of this player around & he is made out to be a villan! i h8 refs!!!!!

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  • AndyNUFC

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #26

    I’d have Shola start, Carroll seems to only have his height, because his work rate was gash yesterday. Shola sometimes tries to run with the ball and made some decent moves, especially his through ball to a disgustingly bad Duff shot.

    On a seperate note, is it not time that Kinnear stood up and told Geremi to stop taking these p!ss poor dead balls?

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  • wigaz

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #27

    Rant over! well played shola you deserve all the credit you get m8! ran your arse off!

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #28

    talking of bad refereeing how can u mistake joey barton for nicky butt hahaaaaa

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  • troy stavers

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #29

    im over the moon with smokin joe but furious wi the pro ashley mob. Are these idiots pleased wi being in the bottom 3 and scrapping to get out of it. Is this what they want? balanced books but relegated? We should be battling to get in the top 5! He has been here 18 months and we had 3 players bought by his cronies playing last night. That is not good enough and we are now reaping what weve sewed. I fear for the future under ashley.

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #30

    take a freekin eye test

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #31

    talk to the assistants toss pots

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #32

    Was it not Beye? Im sure Poll said something like ‘Joey Bartons tackle was a penalty and therefore a red card’.. I was drunk and a bit baked watching it though.. But i vaguely remember it..

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #33

    even freekin worse

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #34

    I’d give Guthrie a few more free kicks.. He’s canny from the corners

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #35

    no butts takle outside the box

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  • AndyNUFC

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #36

    Guthrie was the one who delivered the corner for Martins header against Man Utd, WHY IS GEREMI STILL TAKING THEM?!

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #37

    Anyone see that commentator arguing with Graham Poll.. I was loving that like.. That’s when he referred to Beye as Joey Barton.. What a goon

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  • john tudor

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #38

    bring on the scum

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  • Karltoon

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #39

    Aye that’s the one..

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  • Rasko a.k.a Hadji

    Oct 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #40

    Why’s everyone talking about Ameobi featuring in the next game,isn’t Owen supposed to be back by then or he’ll miss that game aswell???

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