Amazing events at White Hart Lane may have not gone unnoticed by Joe Kinnear this morning.
Gus Poyet - can he help Joe out at Newcastle?
Spurs replaced manager Juande Ramos with Harry Redknapp on Saturday, and of course Harry was very close to taking the Newcastle United job only last January.
We’re sure Harry will make a big difference at the London club, and he’s already made a winning start to his tenure there by winning 2-0 against Bolton yesterday, for their very first win of the season. Well at least Spurs fans will be happy this morning.
Gus Poyet is now available, and it may be that Joe Kinnear will approach Gus to see if he is willing to come up to Newcastle and help him out with the coaching over the next 5 weeks or so at Newcastle.
It may even work for Gus, who can get his mind off being sacked, and get involved in what will be a big challenge for him. We like Gus a lot, because he seems to have so much spirit and is obviously great with the players, having played the game himself at the highest level.
We have a very very thin coaching staff which is another reason we need to give Joe, Chris and the other coaches all the support we can muster in these very uncertain times. The 40 year-old Poyet is of course Uruguayan, and we have Ignacio Gonzalez from Uruguay currently at the club.
Come to think of it, Ignacio should be recovered from his Achilles injury very soon and we wonder if there are any Uruguayan restaurants in Newcastle these days? 
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We hope that Dennis Wise or Mike Ashley can help to get Poyet to the club to help Joe with the coaching side of things – that’s only if Joe wants that help of course.
Comments very welcome – but please keep them decent – thanks.
100 responses so far ↓
1 Tom4Nufc // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Mabye a good option, but I dont think Chris Hughton would be pleased!
2 Joey's going to get you!!(GG7) // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:11 AM
this would just secure the poisened dwarfs position even more, as much as i like poyet, i dont want him here. fair play to spurs for acting so quickly. harry is the man i wanted in january
3 NUROSSFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Could be a good move but then again what else could go wrong for us atm?
4 lesh // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM
What the F…….. it couldn’t get much worse, or could it?
5 beyethegreat // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM
btw ed i think you need to set your clocks back
6 Micky Toon // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM
The whole Redknapp to Spurs thing brings up all sorts of issues for me. What the hell must have Ashley and his cohorts said to him for him to stay at Pompey instead of joining us?
‘Appy ‘Arry is about as loyal as Judas was as he has now done the dirty on Pompey twice. Unfortunately they didn’t learn from it and appointed him again. As soon as a decent job comes up he’s off again! I don’t believe all this nonsense about new owners, etc… I think he saw the chance to join a club that is bigger than pompey so he left. He has obviously been promised full control, something that he may not have been offered here.
I don’t want to see Poyet at NUFC I don’t think he’s any better than what we already have.
7 Micky Toon // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM
RE: Ed’s clocks. I’m not 100% sure, but I don’t think they set the clocks back in the USA at the same time as us, if at all. Remember the USA has three different time zones all of it’s own and this is a USA based blog. IMHO any globally aimed website should stick with GMT when displaying time stamps, it would cut out all the confusion.
8 beyethegreat // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM
thanx micky toon
9 UTD111 // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:57 AM
On the other hand of course, Poyet would be a good choice for Portsmouth……or they may come after Joe Kinnear LOL
10 Lost Prophet // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:57 AM
WE like Gus a lot? Who’s WE? I don’t want that mumbling spurs reject at Newcastle. What would be the point of him turning up here with the club about to be sold? Another drain on the payroll for a few weeks. No thanks!
11 Darling27 // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Poyet??? Err No!!!
12 ObaFan2 // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:13 PM
We don’t want Poyet or anyone else…
We (75%) want ASHLEY OUT and a chance to rebuild with a new owner and manager.
After the unthinkable happened on Saturday (and we were outplayed ) It is clear to me that there was not enough fight in the team, also we were tactically inept.
Ashley get sold ASAP, let us move forward.
13 sweendog // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I do rate Poyet .. but hate ashley ..
It wouldn’t hurt to have someone like Poyet give a bit of feedback to Kinnear, so for the mean time until we’re bought out definately a good option.
14 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Obafan….Its more like 90% if you ask me,those 10% they can go support Tottenham together with Fat Ash
15 lesh // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Re Micky Toon and …. What the hell must have Ashley and his cohorts said to him for him to stay at Pompey instead of joining us…
Director of Football perhaps?
16 ObaFan2 // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM
lol Hadji, 100% of me wants him out and although I’m still 100% B&W,Geordie, Toon fan, I’m finding it difficult to support our club. Not the team…. the club and thats for the first time in my life.
Ashley is the “cant” and needs to sell NOW…
17 Toon Graeme // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Lads can I just pick up on something people keep putting on here. Everyone say ashley sell now and must sell now but if no one wants to buy who can he sell it to.
Im just being a realist. I really hope that something is going on as we speak and being kept on the quiet.
We need a phsycological boost as well as some points on the board.
I agree that we are past the point of no return and need a new owner now. As to when that happens and if it happens, god only knows.
SJP is going to be noisy tomorrow night.
COME ON LADS.
Oh yeah Poyet – couldnt give a monkeys.
18 bigpeaovtheweab // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM
NO EFFING WAY
19 ObaFan2 // Oct 27, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Graeme, cannot trust this regime one bit and if Ashley is being greedy and wanting to line his pockets even MORE at our expense then stuff him.
If his greed is putting off potential owners then this is a major problem, we are not the ones who neccesarily need to be realistic, maybe it’s Ashley’s asking/selling price.
20 BenjiToon // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Poyet? Not thanks. He’s just been the only English speaker in the management team that steered a side a lot more expensive that ours to the bottom of the league. No pedigree as top flight coach and too close to wise.
Nice guy? Maybe. Right for Toon? Nah.
21 Spitfire // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Poyet couldn’t get Spurs to play what makes anyone think he would be good for us?
22 irish_al // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM
he could probably help get a bit more out of our spanish speaking players, make sure they’re given instructions they can understand
maybe even get his boots on, better delivery than our current set piece taker, probably more pace still too
23 lesh // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Off thread and yesterday’s news, but nevertheless interesting – however I’m sure we’d all prefer real news rather than speculation!
http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/newcastle-utd-news/2008/10/26/a-two-horse-race-for-toon-79310-22118216/
On a different note, while near all yesterday’s papers speculated Ramos’ departure, the Mail (yes I washed me hands after reading it) reported the story exactly as it happened.
Considering the news wasn’t announced ’til 10.30pm Saturday when copy would’ve been set long beforehand, it’s obvious they had solid inside info available – quite a scoop for the rag!!
24 lesh // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Lifted from a teletext broadcast……
“David Pleat believes Harry Redknapp will need help at Tottenham, but not from anyone with the title of director of football.
“Pleat previously held such a role at Spurs and sees it as an important position, but only if the incumbent complements the manager.
“He told BBC Radio Five Live: “The perception of the role is it is held by an interferer who doesn’t do his job.”
That last para just about sums up Wise to a tee!!
But Spurs acted before it was too late even though Levy was in the USA and yes, we all know what happened when the KK issue blew up and Ashley was partying in NY – he left it to his trusty lieutenants. Marvellous!!
25 Ryan Peacock // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM
poyet? you must be joking? if poyet comes to us i will be sickened by it!!!!!!
26 redeye // Oct 27, 2008 at 1:52 PM
He’s too close to Wise for it to in our best interests.
27 toonoot // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Newcarsle Hotspur. Do I not like the saound of that!
28 geordiejayne // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Of Course get Gus he was doing such a good job at Spurs NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
29 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Ed what are you talking about?
Is Dennis Wise writing your blog nowadays?
Whats all this WE business?
What has Poyet Ever achieved in management roles, accept helping spurs achieve the statust of worse team in the league.. just beating us to the title.
And the fact that he is wises big mate…
This would be a absolute disgrace.
don’t try and brush the whole situation under the carpet.. we NEED ashly out, new owners In, along with Keegan or Shearer
Director of football system OUT
Kinnear demonstrated agaisn’t sunderland that he only knows one way of playing.
Not good enough
30 Jon // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:39 PM
If Gus can get Taylor of the team he will be more than welcome.
31 Toon Graeme // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Who would everyone who hates Taylor play in his place?
32 Brave New Toon - Taylor is a legend // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM
have a word with your self Jon.
get off the bandwagon, and off taylor’s back.
Excactly why I stopped useing this blog.
Everyone on here supposed to support the mags.. but no one actually does.
Ask Stuart Pierce
33 Legs // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM
bassong baby
34 steve // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I aint the biggest Taylor fan but he’s a lot better than Collocini and together they’re becoming a bit of a liability.
Ed – how about an article on Wise / Jimenez buys?
As far as I can see the only good buy has been Guiterez with Guthrie possibly being one for the future – Xisco, Collo, and Nacho (sick leave) being no better than our usual foreign buys (Viana, Boumsong etc)
35 It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC) // Oct 27, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Colo looked quality against the Makems.
36 Tom1664 // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Steve – how many games are we into the season? How many games have xisco and nacho played? And yet you’re still judging them already? Jesus! Give them TIME man!
PS Colo is awesome
37 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Lol @ Toonoot!..
38 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Harper
Beye-Colo-Bassong-Enrique
Jonas-Barton-Guthrie-Duff
Martins(Owen, if fit)-Ameobi(Xisco)
39 Obafan // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM
steve
That is the most stupid thing I’ve read on this blog. Taylor better than Colo.
Taylor is the worst defender in the EPL. And he should be slammed in the face every time he starts to laugh after his stupid mistakes. He ain’t worth to play at this high level.
Just think about this; we’ve criticised lots of defenders the last years (Brambe, Boumsong, Cacapa, …), but they all partnered with the same clown. Maybe they weren’t so bad, but there partner; Mr Taylor, is the worst to play next to.
Coloccini for years was one of the best defenders in Spain, Cacapa was the leader of the back in a successfull Lyon side. The come up to the North and get loads of bad comments like they cannot defend at all. No, they have to cover for 2, cause Taylor can’t defend at all.
I’m sick of Taylor and I hope JK sees it and get him out of the team, cause as long as he is in the line-up it will be very hard to hold a clean sheet.
40 joe // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Taylor was awful once again. We should have kept Faye. Him and Colo would have been immense.
41 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Aye Joe, we shoulda kept Faye!..
42 Turkish magpie // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Why are people playing harper?
And you know taylor wont be dropped.
but our best team for wba is
——————-Given—————–
——————————————-
–Beye—-Colo—Taylor—–Bassong-
——————————————-
—Jonas———Guthrie———Duff-
——————-Barton—————
——————————————
————-Martins—-Xisco———-
Ameobi will probably start though because of his good performances(which i think he has) but xisco just needs a chance to shine!
Taylor wont let anyone down on a day like tomorrow because he has experience.
Geremi is a good player his crossing has improved alot it’s just he’s nowhere near jonas’s level.
Butt might not get left out because he captained our previous games but our only hope is his injury!
Gonazalez is good and needs to be given time like xisco and maybe poyet can be hired as a translator? lol
who agrees?
43 Obafan // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Toon Graeme
First of why did we sell Faye? By miles better than Taylor.
And from the players who we now have available I would defo pick Cacapa; he played 2 games and did not play bad at all.
So Cacapa, Bassong, Edgar or a kid as long as I don’t see Taylor anymore, cause I really have seen enough of that clown.
44 Obafan // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Oh and a question where is our only creative player, tho’ I’ve heard he is creative, Nacho Gonzalez????
45 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Turkish,
i’m pickin’ Harper because he doesn’t just hoof the ball back to the opposion at every opportunity man…Re: the manc & s*land games…Wake up…Watch!..
46 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:35 PM
& if Harper had been playin’ & let so many goals in so far…He would be dropped!..
…When he was playin’ we were leakin’ far fewer goals…
47 steve // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Collo’s hardly immense! – he can’t friggin head the ball!
Agree Taylor is def the weak link tho – Nacho has gone sick note almost as soon as he appeared so I’m obviously not judging him on seeing him play (the new marcelino) Xisco is hardly the new Torres
Faye put in a transfer request – you can hardly blame Ashley and co for that
Obafan – you have a short memory – remember Portsmouth – Cacapa was terrible in that game!
48 Turkish magpie // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
point taken punk skunk but do you really think steve will be picked over this!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H4AwlfA-9Zk
49 JJ // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Punk Skunk,
Neither Harper nor Given could stop Nicky Butt from handing the opposition a goal a game.
50 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:56 PM
harper allt he way, givens really startin ta pull my pi$$er abit now…we cant win against sunderbland bla bla bull$hit..we do good…ow look…lets let a goal in…given is not as good as everyone thinks…he is over dramatic with saves, and therefore looks good, he doesnt do the job, reasons why harper is ebtter:
statistics show harper lets in less goals per game on average
1)he organises the defence, and a solid defence has a domino effect ont he midfield, which then goes to the strikers, you can build a multistory building if the ground floor is unstable
2) he catches the ball
3)he does the basics better
4)he doesnt gtive the ball away needlessly
5)he is toon through and through and shows passion, which is what we need, the same reasonw hy keegan, shearer, beardsly, ect all were succeses here
6) he is bigger
7) he doesnt give negative comments to the media, and give a negative effect to the team, if yout hink you cant win, youw ont win, simpel as
9) when harper does play, he always has an amzing run int he side, last season he kept us up
10…do i need to say more?
51 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
good team opunk skunk, but even taylor plays well under harpers influence, taylors young he jsut needs someone telling him what to do, someone to control him, given doesnt do this, when harper plays taylor usually has a good game, watch in future
52 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Turkish,
i’m not slaggin’ Shay, i’m just pointin’ out the fact of games played, goals conceded…& some have been Shays fault, i’m afraid…
…I’m not sayin’ Harper’s gods-gift either, but maybe a change is apt…
…JJ, i’m not really talkin’ about the scum game…I’m basin’ my view on recents games…
…& I’m fed up with Shay showin’ a lack of imagination when it comes to distributin’ the ball…In the manc game especially, he just kept givin’ it back to them & puttin’ us under pressure…Harper tends to roll it out & build from the back…Colo is good on the ball, so that’s what we should be doin’!..
53 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Paul,
i totally agree mate…& i think y’right about Harper organizin’ Taylor & the back four better…Last year, when he came in, the back 4 seemed more confident with him than Shay!..
…Just an observation!..
…& what’s more, why was he dropped?..He was playin’ well & the team was doin’ well!..
…I remember our coaches sayin’ no favoritism, form players play…But soon as Shay was fit, he was in the team, when Harper did nowt wrong & his form was great!..& correct me if i’m wrong but, goals shipped says it all for a keeper, doesn’t it?..
…Or is it past glories & rep that wins thru?..
54 UTD111 // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM
The people in here who cricise Collocini and reckon he can’t head a ball…..
You onviously don’t watch United’s games – I can lend you some videos if you’d actually like to have a look at Collocini playing…..he heads the ball all the time……
55 Tom_Toon // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Against Man City, Coloccini stood out for being a tremendous head of the ball.
56 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM
punk skunk, i was thinkin the same thing, no matter how bad we play, no matter how close to relegation, no matter how many goals conceded, we wont drop shay, and no matter how well were playin, how many clean sheets, we willa lways drop harper, its frustrating, shay is a good keeper, i jsut feel harper is better, and with a good run could impress mr capello, as he is certainly better than james
has an1 else noticed the fact given keeps a clean sheet about as often as a sexually frustarted teenage boy?
57 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM
would be interestin ta see the same teams but 1 with given and 1 with harper and see whod finish higher
58 chuck CHUCK // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Could be the reason Arry refused the job here is the fact he was informed there was a new management system in place (football director) of course being Arry he used the excuse he was happy living in Portsmouth.
Apparently Ramos accepted the managers role knowing fully that Spurs had that same system in place, the result being he had to accept as did Keegan players he did`nt particularly want and refused players he did want.
Which relegated Ramos to picking the team, tactics and cheerleading, same with KK.
Apparently before accepting the Spurs job Arry insisted on being , “the man” , who was in charge of the team including any transfer activity, the rest is history.
Question arises, it seems there are a number of continental teams who employ the football director roll, as apposed to the manager in full charge, which is the prevelant system in the Pl.
I for one fail to see the point of paying big bucks for managerial skills (building a team) then relegating the man to a cheerleading role.
Ps, it was never quite clear whether KK was informed he would`nt be the final word on incoming players, he apparently knew as did Arry of the football director role.
59 UTD111 // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM
The DOF system can only work where there is 100% trust and respect between the DOF and the Manager – and they work very closely together. That way the manager is fully involved and has the final say in decisions about who we are going for, and once the list is agreed, its the DOFs job to get out there and get the targets in – leaving the manager to get on with the other stuff.
Therefore no way this was going to work with a cnut like the poison dwarf sitting in his ivory tower in London totally ignoring what Sir Kevin wanted (eg a left back….)
60 CHUCK // Oct 27, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Cant believe how everyone is looking for a sacrificial goat , Colocinni cant use his head, Taylor is useless, put Harper in goal(like he could have saved the free kick) Ameobi scores two goals in two games and he`s useless, Martins played lousy, not to to mention Duff who though playing terrific from the seasons start still gets stick.
How long will it take before the mob starts beying for JK`s blood.
Yeah, take a good look at whats in these blogs, take a look at yourselves, nothing but negativity.
Its no wonder the club is so hard to sell ,who wants to take on a club where the fans have hounded numerous managers and the last two owners out of town.
Its unprecidented in the history of sport.
61 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:02 PM
no chuck, maybe harper might not have saved the free kick, but he might have, we’ll never know, one thing is for sure, if harper was in goal, that free kick wouldnt have happend, the game wouldve beend ifferent, and chances are we wouldve won
62 steve // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Chuck – agreed, this board is full of whingers.
btw: of course Arry knew he would have no say in players, everyone including KK knew we were going to have a director of football.
As for the team – I think we’ll be alright although anyone thinking we’re ever going to challenge for a top six slot with this team is sadly mistaken – I’ll be more than happy with a top half finish both this season and next
63 steve // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM
although next year might be top half of championship
64 CHUCK // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Udt111
So your statement,’ the poison dwarf sitting in his ivory tower in London totally ignoring what KK wanted a left back” thats fact or part of what you imagine took place, thought we got a left back, guy called Bassong , who looks pretty decent to me.
65 CHUCK // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:09 PM
PAUL
Unlikely speculation !
66 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM
not really, if harper had played, the whole game woulve been different, couldve beenw orse, couldve been better, but, at the end of the day, if we dotn egt any points suely its worth a try, have a look at the points above and you might see what i mean
67 CHUCK // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM
And STEVE,
The way things look we will be lucky to avoid relegation, i would certainly be happy with a top half finish but will settle for any spot that will keep the team up.
68 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Paul,
i agree man…I reckon Harper is well better than the choices Capello has…He just needs a run of games…We’re talkin’ about nationalisin’ overseas goalies…That says it all really!..
…Sorry you others, i’m not slaggin’ Shay. I’m just sayin’ it looks like he ain’t commandin’ the box, bad distribution & the back line seems scared…& it wasn’t like that with Harper in there…I’m not lookin’ for scapegoats…Bottom line is: i want NUFC to start winnin’ & stop shippin’ all the avoidable goals!..
…& i’m sure that if we went & checked we’d find that our goal keepin’ in the last 10 games or so has not been the best!..
…It just pisses me off that people still vote Shay motm when we lose shippin’ goals & always blame the out field players…It isn’t always the back 4 to blame!..
…Colo is playin’ well…& so is Ameobi, can’t argue with 2/2…
69 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I’m defo not goin’ down the : ‘oh! that’s it we’re gonna get relagated route…It’s way too early for that pessimistic crap!..
…A couple of tweaks & we could be back in business!?!..
70 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Sorry but anyone slagging Given as a goalkeeper is full of it.
Most committed player to the NUFC cause besides Shearer.
Had the chance to go elsewhere and didn’t take them and has stayed with us with the very real chance that he will end his career without winning anything.
I agree Harper is a fantastic keeper but are you really trying to tell me all the managers we have had picked Given over Harper because of favouritism? Get real
71 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Chuck,
i think you’re right about us(the fans) houndin’ coaches out of Toon…We must hang fire for longer, generally!..
…If you notice i didn’t slag anyone, i just think we need a couple of changes!..
72 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM
No-one is slaggin’ Shay!..
…It’s a reasoned arguement mate…
73 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:48 PM
They pick Shay because of the past!..
…Coaches come here & all they know is Shay from all the punditry…So they stick with him…They’re not here long enough to know usually!?!..
74 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:50 PM
& just ‘cos someone is very commited shouldn’t gaurentee their place…That’s a stupid notion!..
…FORM everytime!..
75 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:54 PM
how can you say shay is the most commited??
harper is our longest serving playerm, a toon supporter through and through, and do you really thinks hay would stay that long if he was on the bench….get real
im not slaggin him off he’s a world class keeper id just prefer to see harper given the chace n shay to realise hes not as good as he thinks he is, the only reason shay egts picked by every manager is because hell throw his toys out the pram if he is dropped, like last time, whereas harper is much more proffesional and commited and will stick through thick and thin
76 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Good answer Paul!..
Nail, head, hit!..
77 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Cisse goal – no one marking him, not a defender in sight, goalkeepers fault?
Ricardsons goal – not one keeper in the league would’ve saved that goal.
I’m not saying Shay should be picked because of his commitment but obviously Harper doesn’t cut it in training.
Do you really think every manager we’ve had from Dalglish to present picks Given because they heard he was good on Sky or something they read on Teletext??
78 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Paul
Nonsense
79 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 5:59 PM
well, i work as a chef and have my boss tellin me presentation is everythin…which aint true, cause the presentation can be great but why does it atter if the foods $hit, same thing goes with the keepers, given looks alot better because hes overdramatic with saves, but, the way i see it which many peopel dont, is why does it matter how good he looks if he lets goals in?
80 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM
No need to be facecous ramy,
every pundit a & their dog glorfies Shay left, right & centre…
…Cisse goal…Shay off his line & that’s common, the no. of goals we’ve shipped recently where Shay has been chipped over & he’s been stood on his 6 yard line is ridiculas man…
…Obviously, no-one can blame him for the richardson pile-driver!..That is not an issue!..
81 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:04 PM
What i’m really trying to say mate is that goalkeeping is the one area we don’t have to worry about. We are blessed with probably two of the best goalkeeepers in the EPL.
There is a serious problem with the defence though and there has been for far too long.
The problem exists no matter who is in goal and I really struggle to understand what the problem is.
82 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM
The back line just do not look as comfortable with Shay behind them as they do with Harper…
…It’s an observation not a critisism!..
83 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Ramy,
i totally understand y’frustration mate…
…It does me heed in!..
…I’m just comparin’ last season & this…& based on that i’m sure Harper has shipped less…
…If we just checked both of their last 20 games say!..
…Since Shay got that horrid injury, he ain’t been the same…I think he’s gettin’ back to his old self, but he ain’t there yet…& i just don’t think we should play fast & loose with goalkeepin’…
84 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM
But why then does Harper not get his chance? There has to be a point where a manager sits down and thinks to himself “the reason we lost today and the reason the defense is so poor is because they are not comfortable with Given”
If it is so evident to the fans surely it must have crossed the minds of someone of our managers down the years?
85 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:17 PM
It winds me up mate.
NUFC = poor defence, always has been looks like it always will be.
It is accepted that we will leak goals but why should we just accept it?
86 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:20 PM
No-one wants one of their best, most commited, time-servered servants to slide, so they think that stickin’ with it will sort it out!..
…It won’t…
…There are plenty of players in the prem that everyone glorifies that aren’t as good as they think, or have lost something!..& plenty where the contrary is true!..
…When you watch a game on tv it’s amazin’ sometimes what people say about players…& i find ma’self LOL at some of the dumbassed coments…& think, what game were they watchin’!?!..
87 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Ramy,
there’s a classic example mate…We had the second best D under KK 1st time, but ALL the pundits said our D was crap!..
…I remember when Roeder got us into europe, 7th best D in the league, yet everyone said it was one of the worst…It’s bollox!..
…They believe what they want!..
88 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:27 PM
I’ll admit to having a slighty blinkered and biased opinion of Shay.
I know they earn more money than me and you will ever see but I do feel kinda sorry for quality players (Shearer/Harper/Given among others) who give their heart and soul to the club and who eventually walk away empty handed (trophy wise).
89 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Yeah have noticed that. Couple of seasons ago we were getting slaughtered for having the worst defence in the world yet the Spuds had conceeded more goals than us and there wasn’t a peep in the media.
90 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Totally agree mate!..
…It bastard killin’ me man!..
…Gutted for ‘em too…I’d love to see Shay, Steve etc. win something with us, for all their great work down the years!..
91 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:39 PM
the media always aim at nufc and far away sides, almost allt he papers are based in london, and have peopel from london reporting, therefore mainyl giving biased opinions in that way, and im not bashign shay hes a brillaint keeper, but, are defence ahsnt been great since kk the 1st time, and weve had given ing oal allt hat time, with sum decent defenders, we jsut seem to play betetr with harper in goal, therefore he deserves a chance, and as for why doesnt shay get dropped, last time shay was dropped he threw a hissy fit n threatened to leave, therefore managers will pcik him to ensure we have the two best keepers in the league at the club at harpers expense which i believe is wrong, if he cant take the bench, so be it, let him leave
92 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM
It’s true Paul!..
…We are a scapegoat!..
…Notice how easy they’ve been on spuds, wetspam etc…
…Now they’re all supportin’ Igor at spuds, before he even does owt!..
…Sickenin’!..
93 RamyNUFC // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Funny thing is a lot of the London based media seem to support ManU, newspapers and radio especially seem to be rife with the buggers!!
94 Punk Skunk // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Aye,
unbiased reportin’ there…NOT!..
95 Paul // Oct 27, 2008 at 6:50 PM
thats jus cuz theirs manure supporters everywer…and they cant jippoff the most popular teams
96 Heavy hitters // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Agree Obafan, sadly Taylor is going nowhere. He has single handedly ruined my enjoyment at the match since he arrived on the scene. I just dont understand what people see in him? Can anyone show me a defender who smirks when he makes mistakes like he does and then goes mouthing off to the media afterwards pretending he’s a Premiership big shot particularly to his confidente and close friend alan oliver,????
All I can say is as long as this creep plays for our club we will win nothing !!!
97 Phil Wood // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:05 AM
Is a four year old writing this dribble???
98 CHUCK // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:40 AM
Got to laugh, it`s a regional inferiority complex, not a regional bias from the press, get over it.
Hard geordies demonstrated by shirtless displays vs. soft southerners, its all in your mind.
Grow up for ch***t sake you sound like retards.
If you are looking for someone to blame better look in the mirror, the present club woes are not generated by the southern or northern or any press but by you the fans, believe it !
99 Ausgeordie // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:57 AM
Spurs got arry and quickly because they fired the old board and payed their dues. Do you think we offered to compensate portsmouth with 5 mill and give the man full control or did Ashley assume arry would come because of the size of the club and offer them/him a pittance to do so whilst also telling him he would not be the last say in the transfer room.
Arry is the best, dodgiest, most cunning transfer market operator of all time. He gets good buys, good players and does some dodgy deals.
I think we forget that Given seems to make two or three good saves per goal conceded. I don’t think thats bad as our back line is giving players too much time and space in the box to choose their shot and power up.
Poyet bugger off we dont need another voice in the background
100 neeraj // Oct 28, 2008 at 9:01 AM
to punk shunk and paul
you say the keeping hasnt been good
remember the penelty save
remember the game against arsenal where thery had what like 20 shots on goal and scored only 3
remember the save against ireland against man city
you want him to save all 1 on 1
i would say it again the problem is that our midfield is not helping our defense out…..
remember the game against man u our mid field was there all the time to help our defense, we looked solid…
we conceded when taylor was out…..
and butt i am not a big fan, but he is the only player in the mid field who is willing to raise his hands for the ball and pass everyone else is busy showing their skills
so i am happy that barton is back ….
given
beye……..cacapa……..colo………….enrique
duff……… barton…….. guthrie/butt……. jonas
……………………………………….nzog/ameobi
…………………….martins/xisco
taylor needs time to think abt what he is doing
still mthink he is good
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