Even though our win last night was not a dominant one, against a rather mediocre WBA side, we have the chance to pick up some points in our next 3 games.
Newcastle United fans - good support last night
The next three league fixtures are:
Mon Nov 3: Aston Villa (H) 8:00 pm KO
Sun Nov 9: Fulham (A) 4:00 pm KO
Sat Nov 15: Wigan (H) 3:00 pm KO
A good target for those 3 games has to be 6 points – which means two wins out of the three. The hardest game is next Monday at home to Aston Villa, and it will be up to our defense to turn in a mammoth performance to see if we can keep the in-form Villa side at bay, but that will be tough.
However in the following two games, we have a good chance at winning both games, if we can play at our best and tighten up our defense, who are still giving away too many poor goals. The goal we conceded on 65 minutes last night was another poor one, when one pass split our defense right down the middle. 
Why did we pick only the next three games? Because our 4th game is away at Chelsea, and while we almost picked up a point there (we were beaten by an 87th minute Salomon Kalou offside goal 2-1) in last season’s fixture back on December 29th, we would expect no points from that game realistically.
But we are very willing to be surprised.
115 responses so far ↓
1 ginkoh // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If We stuck on Wesbromwich second half tactics, we’ll be destroyed by Chelsea for sure. Oh I see the Joe’s interviea after Chelsea game ” They’re by far greater than us”
We have to try up our game. Tactic, Teamwork, Finish area, and Passing need to improve. I know we can do it !
2 carl // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM
i cant really see us getting anything against villa, we were good in patches in the first half yesterday, but we cant let teams have that much possesion and teritory like in the second half at home. but realisticaly we should be beating fulham and wigan. so yes 6 points from next two games should be achievable.and i cant see spurs or stoke going anywhere in nxt few games:)
3 clinta // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM
In all honesty i’m not that worried about us this year, okay were not going to be top 6 or top 8, but what else is new.
the last toon game i was at was fulham in london under big sam, we won that day from a 92nd minute penalty, hardly desrved it though.
I feel the way the teams playing now, while not particularly good, it’s still a hell of a lot better than most game i witness last run out, and whether we get anything this time around at fulham, i bet the team will be playing better football for the fans.
so there’s a little optimism and perspective.. there’s always next year huh?
4 Tozvaldo // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:52 AM
confident will be restored to the team and with a full home capacity crowd, I’m going for at least a draw, 7+ points from our next 3 games, howay
5 carl // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:52 AM
agree ginkoh – but when you really look at it,barton,enrique,gutierrez,martins ,beye have only all just came back from injury, it was obvious all were tired in second half , so its a good start, and as for ameobi, well i think he may need electric shock therapy to send signals from brain to feet quicker, (if possible)
6 AndyNUFC // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56 AM
We may aswell write this season off and just see where Kinnear can take us after Christmas.
I wonder, if he’s still the manager, if our owen (whoever that is) will fund january window buys. For me, our season is going to depend on them.
7 AndyNUFC // Oct 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM
If our owner* that meant to say.
8 Tom // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM
If we keep Steven Taylor at centre back alongside Coloccini, then Villa will utterly tear us apart. We need to drop the guy and replace him with Bassong, Taylor is a liability.
9 Dan13 // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Support wasn’t really up to scratch Ed,
I blame the freeezing weather
10 Sav // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM
If we were to go a goal up against Villa and if Butt is fit, the option of a CM of Guthrie, Butt and Barton together would be different proposition to what we served up last night.
Meanwhile, a fit Duffer and Guttierez are a formidable wing combo.
11 Whumpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:16 AM
It’s good to be going into games expecting to win again. Good point about recently returning players tiring, and we should improve as they get their legs back. Joey done good; hope it lasts.
Also, I think we really missed a class finisher like Owen last night. Shola was his usual frustrating mix of effort, creativity and stumbling idiocy, and Xisco reminded us of his barn-door-missing capabilities. Even Martins, while creating chance after chance, missed some sitters and squandered some great positions with mad ‘crosses’ that landed somewhere near Monument station.
Beye was my favourite, and showed how weak Enrique is by comparison. But we will improve, and I think the 6 points from 3 games is achievable.
One big gripe though: WHERE THE HELL WERE THE TOON ARMY LAST NIGHT?? I was sickened to see so many empty seats! I’m stuck nearly 400 miles away, otherwise I’d have moved heaven and earth to get there – how can ‘fans’ sit within a couple of miles of the stadium and not attend such a crucial game, when they’ve already paid for the seat??
The supporters need to get over the KK thing and get back to doing their jobs. Well done to the ones who did show up, though – good noise!
12 Lost prophet // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Drop Coloccini and Taylor they’re both hopeless. Leave Butt and Geremi out however I still don’t see us getting a result next Monday. Sorry to be so negative but we just arn’t good enough.
13 Sav // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Hard to condemn Taylor and Cloccini when our midfield was swinging wide open like a netty door in a force 8 gale. No wonder they are nervous. West Brom was passing through us at will.
14 Toon Graeme // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:19 AM
This is what we need to happen until monday to help us out on the board. Maybe lady luck will shine on us.
Tonight:
Arsenal vs Tottenham – Arsenal win
Bolton – Everton – Everton Win
Fulham – Wigan – Draw
Stoke vs Sunderland – Sunderland Win
Saturday:
Everton – Fulham – Everton Win
Portsmouth – Wigan – Portsmouth Win
Stoke City – Arsenal – Arsenal Win
Tottenham – Liverpool – Liverpool Win
West Brom – Blackburn – Blackburn Win
Sunday:
Bolton – Man City – Citey to win.
15 ToonKing // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM
———-Given————
Beye–Colo–Cacapa–Bassong
Jonas–Barton–Guthrie–Zog
——-Oba—-Owen———–
with this we can beat anyone on our day, but the midfield must track back, which they didn’t do yesterday, they need to be fully focused, which they weren’t yesterday, and we need to play it on the ground.
16 ToonKing // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:29 AM
that’s pretty realistic Toon Graeme.
17 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Fear is our worst enemy,i mean….who the f..k is Aston Villa to be affraid of them.
3 points for sure if we play like men.
NEWCASTLE TILL I DIE
18 Macas // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I know he gets slated on here all the time but i feel we missed Butt in midfield last night. Guthrie is a tidy enough player but he doesnt have the same bite, and West Brom just passed it around us, especially second half. I just pray Owen is fit against Villa as I thought Martins (apart from the goal) was extremely poor, and while Ameobi battled he is never going to be a clinical finisher.
19 broon ale // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM
i was at the match last night! it was absolutely freezing! I couldnt even bring myself to clap. My hands were blue!
I hope that explains the reasons for lack of atmosphere.
or it could also be that we have just lost to sunderland, we were in the bottom 3, the match was on sky, we played poorly for the majority of the game, we have yet another traumatic season,
you need to be mental to support Newcastle.
Its painfull.
thats why the atmosphere was crap last night
20 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Macas…..I’m pretty sure that you would have missed the 3 points even more if Butt was playing.
21 beyethegreat // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM
whumpie
the attendance was actually quite good fair enough not by our standards but how many teams in the premier league would take 45 000 when we were 19th had lost to the scum no long term manager and is waiting for the club to be sold also i think season ticket sales are down this year probably coz of the credit crunch and price hike
22 sirjasontooon // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM
If we apply ourselves like we did against city we can beat villa at our place.
Going into a game off the back of a win will give the lads a massive boost mentally..and with jonas and barton as well as……er duff (did i say that!) we stand a chance…come on joey !!!!
23 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM
For the a villa game-
If tonight Aston Villa get a player injured
or on monday they get a player sent off
we will win!
if evrything is normal then it will be a close game!
having owen and guttierez back to full fitness we might just nick it
my prediction- 1-0
24 Whumpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM
beyethegreat – fair point, and good to know it was as high as 45k. It looked like closer to 30k.
And since when has the cold kept the Toon away? Should be sat there in yer swimmers..
The noise came across ok on the TV, though, and to be honest, who cares? We won!
Did anybody else think that things looked a lot more solid once Geremi came on? I’m not a fan (swore lots when he was announced) but he seemed to be a useful stabilising influence, and actually got forward a lot.
Guthrie was a bit of a disappointment – didn’t even notice he was there until half an hour in.
The wing play was great to watch, though – it seemed like we were constantly pouring forward through Jonas or Duff, with Joey in the middle doing his creative thing. Just a bit rusty as a unit, that’s all – otherwise it would have been a lot more comfortable.
25 NE1 // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Against the Villa if we play:
Given
Beye Taylor Colocinni Bassong
Jonas Guthrie Barton N’Zogbia
Martins Owen
We’ll do them
I’m not convinced by Geremi, Duff or Butt – however these seem to be mainstays in Kinnears thoughts.
We need to take the game to Villa – do what we do best – ATTACK!
The pace we’ve got can be incredible and with Owen in the side we’re always likely to score a goal or two.
Let move up and by the time Chelski comes round we may have a new gaffer – i think something will happen over next 7-10 days.
26 Midjew // Oct 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I have to say, for all those knocking Duff, your crazy, he played BRILLIANT last night and was the only one trying to push on for another goal.
Him and Jonas on the wings looked great.
27 broon ale // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM
to the fella who said geremi did well! no he didnt. he is rubbish. so is xisco!
also xisco drives a astra, he was behind me in the car on sunday morning going to training!
bit of useless trivia for you there!
28 Less Fed up Geordie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM
It was nt a great performance by any means but a win is a win.Once they scored we looked shakey and a better team might have made us pay.Duff and Jonas did very well and Barton is a much better option than Butt.Guthrie i am not sure about think we still need another good cm at the club.As for taylor i think the guy is struggling,we need to improve to beat Villa but its a step in the right direction
29 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM
big john carew will destroy taylor and collo i,m afraid.
30 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM
where was the logic or so called ashley,s band of footballing experts when they signed misco.
31 Toon Graeme // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Faith boys – Faith.
We just won a game so lets not all jump on the negative.. or at least for 24hrs anyway.
.
The boys know what they have to do. Villa are a tough nut to crack and will give our defense a hammering.
32 Kevin Nichol // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM
I have to agree with broon ale…
Germi looked slow and didnt really do anything for me after coming on!
As for Xisco…I feel like i am becoming a one man marching band here constantly proclaiming how innefective this kid is! Dear me…Bambi on ice??? Lets look at it “6 million”…20 yards out; i’m sitting directly behind the ball coming on to him and i’m thinking “hit is son, prove me wrong”…then we get a grass cutter into the keepers hands! What has Dennis and his gang of merry w@nkers seen in this guy to suggest he is better than carrol or any of the other young strikers we have at the club because quite frankly he isnt!!!
Great result though on possibily the coldest night i can remember at St. James! I thought after half time we looked a little nervous and anxious for the final whistle; but however it came a victory was needed and we got it!
Last point; i didnt like to see with 88mins gone and a corner to us after some good work by duffer; why we had two men only in the box? Fair enough hold on to what we have but theres a chance to seal it with a third…those kind of negative tactic will get punished by better teams…
33 murphy // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM
To be honest I can’t see us getting anything from Villa. We can’t keep a clean sheet at all so we’ll never be able to keep the top clubs at bay. The only way we’ll get a piont is if we have a high score draw cause we can score at the moment.
Duff played really well last night, that one run he did was awesome! really looking like a good player at the moment. Although Bambi make mistakes alot he still plays well and can set goals up and score the odd one, people hate him but he’s good to have as a bench player when all strikers are fit. he can do a job in my opinion.
Gutierez and barton were great, Joey taking the pen took Alot of guts, I couldn’t watch as if he had missed it it would have killed the team.
WBA were awfull in the first half and when we come against stronger sides we’re going to struggle and have to play the long ball and battle.
34 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Skin d…..At least Xisco scored on his debut for us and scored the winner for Spain under 21 agains Switzerland.
I’m pretty sure they knew why they signed him and fans who only have a little bit of knowledge about football they’d agree that Xisco is a good deal for us.
Maybe not atm but for the future….yes.
35 Macas // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Rasko – we might have got 3 points but only just, and any other team that was better at finishing would have murdered us. Butt has his faults there is no doubt about that, and he is getting on a bit, but I think he is the only one who offers any real protection in our central midfield. I’d prefer a better player in that position of course, but at the moment I dont think we have one.
36 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:40 PM
In the 1st half the way we played we could of beaten liverpool,chelsea or any team
37 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM
but in the second half we could of lost to anyone
38 Tom // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:45 PM
The team for Villa should be:
Given
Beye, Coloccini, Bassong, Enrique
Jonas, Guthrie, Barton, Duff
Ameobi, Martins
Normally I’d say Xisco instead of Shola, but he has been going okay recently, so let him try to improve on it. However, he will lose his place when Owen is back.
If he does something similar to the team I picked (i.e. drop Taylor and don’t bring back Butt) then I’ll be really happy!!
39 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:49 PM
when we said we need cover
midfeild is not an issue
we have 4 cm
3 rm
2lm
Attack has loathes of cover except they’re just all lost confidence
Cm=Butt,Barton,Nacho,Guthrie(smith)
Attackers= Owen,Martins,Viduka,Ameobi,Smith,Xisco,Carroll,Ranger
Rm= Spidey,Geremi,(duff)
lm= nzogbia,duff
We thought ameobi was bad because he hasn’t played but once he gets a chance he hasnt done bad so why dont we give xisco this chance!
so when we said we dont have cover, we do but most of them arent given a chance to perform
40 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Tom -
Owen is expected to be fit for A villa
41 Spyro // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Give Xisco a chance guys, he is clearly low on confidence and yet to adjust to the premier league. After all, he did come into a pretty bad situation when he signed for us didn’t he?
Our team for Villa
————————Given———————–
Beye——Coloccini—–Bassong—–Enrique
————————-Butt———————–
Jonas———Barton——-Guthrie——-Duff
———————–Martins———————
42 Spyro // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Best way to nullify Villa’s threat is to cut off supply to their wingers. Clog up the midfield
43 Spyro // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Just read N’zogbia’s latest comments. He has matured a lot it would seem. Top lad.
44 sweendog // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM
We need an early goal on Mon against Villa and then we’ll get a draw or a win .. if not it will be very nerve racking ..
The fitness of the players needs to improve
The DM protection of the back four needs addressing
Taylors positioning.
And Owen back of course
45 samthecat // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM
My target for team is 1 point a game-38-safety.
Defensively we looked shocking for the WBA equaliser and have done all season, on the plus front the injuries are starting to clear up.
Guthrie reminds me of Jenas he plays the ball back, he plays the ball sideways-never loses possession but then never does anything with the ball either.
Signings: Guti looks good, Colo average,Xisco-below average, Gonzalez-probably never wanted to come here in the first place.
46 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM
great team spyro
but i dont think butt will be fit and owen will be so instead have
——————-Given—————–
—Beye——Colo—Bass——Enrique
–Jonas—-Guthrie—Barton—Duff–
————–Owen——Martins——-
47 Less Fed up Geordie // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Turkish,Butt is to slow,poor passer and awful tackler,Geremi is worse again,Nacho is unproven,Smith is a waste of time and Guthrie needs time but shows promise,we need another quality cm to play along side Barton.Butt ,Geremi and Smith have had plenty of chances but just are nt up to it
48 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:00 PM
sam- teams have gone down with 38 points and there are some EASY games like stoke and fulham
so 3 points are always an option but we only have 2 basically unwinnable games left liverpool and chelsea away
evry other game is winnable with our squad!
49 Spyro // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:00 PM
tbh i dont think we are currently capable of handling the pace and trickery of Villa with a 4-4-2 formation. I would rather Owen is thrown on with half an hour to go. i don’t want him rushed back
50 Less Fed up Geordie // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:01 PM
The real danger man for villa is Ashley Young the lad is a top player and big Carew is always a handful.I do think if we improve from wba game we have a good chance
51 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM
We need height for Villa,this is a risky formation but it could work.
……………………………Given…………………………..
Beye………….Coloccini….Taylor………Enrique..
……………………………Barton…………………………
……..Jonas……………………………………Duff……..
……………………………Martins………………………..
………………..Xisco…………….Ameobi……………..
52 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:10 PM
I see one point coming out of the next four games
53 AO // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:11 PM
poor game between poor teams last night. both would look at home in div 1 where they will be playing next season. i think the prem should be made up of 18 teams so we wouldnt have to suffer games like last night.
54 lesh // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Fighting spirit from Oba and a goal on his birthday!
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2008/10/29/oba-martins-pledges-to-win-back-the-nufc-fans-72703-22143048/
But a cry to the lads at the back, keep awake, on your toes and no daft goals please!
Gareth Barry one to watch on Monday and our ex, James M who’ll both be up for it!!!!
55 Turkish magpie // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:22 PM
oba doesnt need to win the fans back
its taylor that needs to put in a world class performance on monday
56 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:25 PM
AO……Exactly my friend,but you must have mixed us with somebody else……Tottenham maybe!?!!??!?!
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
57 beyethegreat // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM
oba is a future legend
whos gonna win in the north london derny
58 beyethegreat // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM
derby
59 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Hadji wrong there-oba should mark the wingers because he is fast and has extra strenght.shola is a attacking midfielder so he should supporrt martins and Xisco attacking pair.i noticed the ariel balls he won could be usefull as an attacking midfielder.joey should hold dm and sw helping taylor and collos mistakes.Guthire cm flowing the passes where ever.jonas is a freerole player.
60 AO // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:30 PM
rasko- no i watched to shite teams last night that were an embarressment to the premiership.
61 dingo // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM
http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/premover_index_top100-copy1.gif
Go on Tayls!!!!!
62 Toon Graeme // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:35 PM
AO – Im watching a sh*te team tonight and its not Arsenal. Oh yea its tottenham, who beat a 10 man team to get 3 points. The Wengaboys will wipe the floor with the spuds tonight. Then Liverpool will continue on the weekend.
63 dingo // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Turkish mag… tayls is our best performing player in the actim index……
64 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM
AO……You said that your team will be in the Premiership next season.
Now i don’t understand,were you refering to Tottenham to avoid relegation or you were refering to some Championship team to win promotion to EPL??
65 Tom_Toon // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Taylor is one of the worst defender in the premier league along with Dawson, Bramble and Assou-Ekotto.
66 beyethegreat // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/2437947/Paper-View-Football-news-rumours-headlines.html
67 Tom_Toon // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM
…
68 Tom_Toon // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:06 PM
jyj
69 Punk Skunk // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM
We did what we had to do-WIN!..
…’If we play like this v…’
…We didn’t tho’, we played wba…& WON!..
…Shit!..Stop lookin’ at every single touch under the microscope…It’s pointless!..
…All you’ll ever see is the blemishes…Get some perspective!..
…Top players back, short on match fitness, young, new to the Toon, new to the prem players, tryin’ to find their feet…Nervous team, tryin’ not to lose again…& a crowd with it’s microscopes on!..
…Ho’way Lads & lasses!..
70 toon toon black & white armyy // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM
given
beye taylor colo enrique
jonas guthrie barton duff
owen martins
—
i dont rate enrique much though maybe get geremi in even though he slow he is more defensive and theres alot of attacking in that team already. plus he can cross the ball. or nzogbia if we want more creativity cause i would like him in the team but i cant find a place since duff and jonas are on fire at mo
71 sweendog // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Punk Skunk .. I just hope we get 6 points from the next 3 games.. then everybody won’t mind or criticise if taylor hands the ball. if nicky butt gives away a penalty .. the key bit is we’re still in the mire and 2 wins in the next 3 will take us out of it .. after that I’ll not be criticising anybody..
72 ed_speed // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM
hi guys ed here ( ed speed)
how are we keeping?
regards,
ed
p.s ‘mon the lads
73 adam // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Duffer played well, Jonas was outstanding. But t has to come back in for Monday as unfortunately we are not solid enough to leave him out. I’m not for one second saying he is what the club needs but he has a good footballing brain and can cover the defence well. What about 3 at the back with 5 in Midfield. Colo, Taylor, Bassong with Duff, Guth, Butt, Barton, Jonas, Owen/Oba and Ameobi up front.
Thought Oba was average last night and Credit to Shola does not deserve to be dropped. Although saying that it is along time since I saw Michael Owen play well in black and white regardless of injuries, does he deserve to just get his place back?
74 NotAGhostToon // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:30 PM
I think barton’s comments in the chron are top notch, and the closest we’ve come to an apology, i know he’s been remorseful before and repeated it but i really hope he just lets his football do the talking, and hopefully gets some sort of therapy to keep him on track. He looked brilliant last night and if he stays out of trouble could easily become a toon legend, and before anyone says, i never jumped on the barton out bandwagon, I was willing to go with whatever the club did. Keep up the good work.
75 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:30 PM
that old chessnut one for the future,xisco,s 22 ffs if he can,t play now he never will.
76 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:33 PM
If taylor is cb against villa we are in deep shite.i av a feeling bassong and colo will be a good pair
77 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:34 PM
jonas needs to learn how to pace himself,and this is not because he,s just come back from injury.
jonas has been like this from when he first joined,he crams his performance into the first half,then has nothing left in the second half.
78 Tom1664 // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Skin d – mate, he’s just come to a foreign league, lost his manager and can’t speak the language (to a degree). FFS how much time has he actually spent on the pitch since he signed? And you still want to judge him on that? How long was it before Oba even scored his first goal for us when he turned up?
79 Tom1664 // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM
That was on Xisco btw.
80 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:40 PM
toon 1664, guilleme balague who reports on the spanish league said at the time he was suprised newcastle had signed him.
apparently he has never made a mark in spain either.
81 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM
wasn,t xisco the straw that broke the camels back for keegan also? i heard kevin didn,t want him.
82 Tom1664 // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Well, at least he’s capped – which has to show for something. As far as I know he was mainly used off the bench at deportivo and they were pretty narked that he left.
83 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Xisco needs time.remember he his vidukas replacement.433 is the Newcastle formation.Xisco is in that position.i can see that he was tryin to impress at the wrong time
84 Tom1664 // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Didn’t Xisco say that he’d spoken to Keegan before the international break when KK left? I would have though the reason KK left would have been no replacement for milner more than Xisco. And you can hardly blame him personally for Kk upping and leaving.
85 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:49 PM
he,s only capped at under 21 level ,loads of kids for other countries have played at that level and never went on from there .
86 james L // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM
in all honesty i rekon 6 points from the next possible 9 is a bit to high a rating. i rekon at most we will get 5.
villa-1point villa are gd
fulham-1point its away
wigan-3points perfect.
does anyone know if graveson is a free agent?
87 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM
not blaming xisco for kevin leaving,but apparently thats what kicked it off.
kevin was told xisco was coming in,kevin said i,ve never heard of him wisey told kevin to look him up on the net then kk lost it.
88 sweendog // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Tom1664 .. Xisco had good reports from Spain .. the lad needs a chance .. so far he hasn’t looked good but give it time .. hopefully he can get a run out in our FA cup run against some of the lesser teams .. then we can judge him ..
89 Tom1664 // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:52 PM
To be fair it’s going to be hard to break into the full international squad when the competition is Guiza, Torres and Villa…
90 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Im sacred of milners threat
91 james L // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:56 PM
what do yaz rekon is the better team? 1 or 2?
TEAM 1
given
beye colocini taylor sorin
gutierez barton graveson duff
martins owen
TEAM 2
given
beye colocini taylor bassong
gutierez butt guthrie geremi
martins ameobi
im gannin for team 1
92 Toon_Ksk // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:57 PM
John Carew and Ashley Young will run us over. I’ll be contented with a draw.
93 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM
now your talking about class players there for me thats the difference.
i know he hasn,t played much thus far,but when a kids good it shines through,when i look at xisco i dont see it sorry.
wayne rooney was only 16 when it started for him against arsenal,i would give nile ranger a go he seems to have something.
94 Tom_Toon // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Right Im off to Iceland for 5 days, have fun.
95 Ganiyu // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Milner dribbles run hard working but doesnt cross
96 AO // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:07 PM
tom tonn- say hello to kerry for me
97 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Guiza is washed up in Fener
Torres wont be used in every single game for Spain(Friendlies and non important games)
Villa will quit the national team after the World cup.
He has a chance i think unless Lorente,Negredo,Arizmendi,Krkic explode in meantime.
98 Tom_Toon // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Aren’t you funny Fernando you gay spud.
I can afford to go to the real Iceland.
99 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:09 PM
TT….have a safe trip m8
100 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:14 PM
i just think it is coming to the crossroads for us,we cannot keep taking blind leaps of faith on some of our players.
okay football can be hitty missy when it comes to nurturing talent,or signing players.
we,ve missed more than any other team,also our youth system isn,t yielding up much.
shola although putting in a bit more effort lately,has been knocking around the first team for about 8 years.
have we had value for money?no,we,ve paid this lad alot of money in wages over the years with very little return.
steven taylor after a couple of year s isn,t justifying the pay rise he shouted and screamed for.
he makes the same mistakes week in week out,we put up with titus for years doing the same thing.
this wouldn,t happen at other clubs,are we to much of a soft touch and to sentimental for our own good.
other clubs would just weed out their lesser players,we seem to hang onto them,therefore i think there is no suprise we find ourselves where we are.
101 Punk Skunk // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Aye Sweendog,
my point is: Soon as any player makes the slighest mistake…It’s like, yea drop him, upset the team dynamic…We’ve gotta stop lookin’ at it like that…Sometimes we’ve just gotta stick with a player for more than one game, 20 minutes in some cases, before everyone starts jumpin’ on him sayin’, he’s shit, get rid!..
…No Team ever, in the history of football won anything by choppin’ & changin’ the line up ‘cos someone made the odd gaffe!..
…Know’arra’mean?..
102 skin d // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:17 PM
turkey in a football sense is an acquired taste bigger stars than guiza have found it tough there.
103 Obafan // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:33 PM
james L
None of those 2 teams are good, cause Taylor is in both of those teams and he is a bad player at a vital position
104 Ryan Harland // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Our major problem is we persist on backing off teams……
I don’t understand why we can’t apply any pressure on teams…..for 25 mins last night we stayed off WEST BROM! If that was Chelsea 10 – 0 easy.
If we can get that out our game, get Owen back to add class and composure we will dramatically improve!
105 Punk Skunk // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:59 PM
It wasn’t chelsea tho’…it was wba!..
…& it woulda been 10-2…
106 Punk Skunk // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:59 PM
I take your point tho’ Ryan!..
107 Punk Skunk // Oct 29, 2008 at 4:00 PM
The team is still nervous & people do strange things when they’re nervous!..
108 jon // Oct 29, 2008 at 4:19 PM
was there last nite-we were tripe and lucky west brom wernt better-yes a cple of canny goals-but it was like watching a championship game- duff was great tho and barton was good- collo however and taylor- not good enuff- nor is nicky ‘il give a pen away’ butt, martins was poor-as was enrique and guthas-west brom took the game to us at home! THEY HAD MOST OF THE POSSESSION-and looked young and fast and fit-stringing lots of passes together and keeping the ball-but a wins a win-i for one cant understand why he doesnt give NILE RANGER AND SAMMY AMEOBIE a shot on the bench in place of missgo and co-i mean thats how we found gascoine-u have to give them a chance! were not good enuff but i hope we keep winning and pull clear of the relegation zone to stay up-massive clearance in january tho-we need spark players who can ignite the game with a turn or flick-who want to run and run-like duff last nite-he was knacked! beardsley used to be the same-and gazza-have we got any good defensive and midfield cover in the reserves?-cos if we havnt i suggest we loan some now-until we can get some in january! nice to win but come on-we will have to rely on luck now unless were playing against the low teams-and didnt keegan pay 10 million for collocinni? makes too many mistakes i think-solid sometimes but not enough-like taylor-top teams dont operate like that man-they have solid reliable defences-and cover for those-youth is the key-but good strong quality youth!rant over lol
109 It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC) // Oct 29, 2008 at 4:40 PM
The North East Nile can’t stop scoring
110 geordie bulldog // Oct 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM
change guthrie for butt and the midfield will then have a ball winner
keep taylor in team not that he is any good but no one better to replace him
change ameobi for owen as when we were defending last night shola hardly put the wba back 4 under pressure when wba had the ball we should have had at least 10 men behind the ball but at times shola and martins just stood on half way line we have to defend from the front more which would stop teams having so much possesion
wba had all the time in the world last night on the ball
111 ravatooniac // Oct 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM
it seems spyro has great managerial potential, reading through all the quotes / team suggestions i was crying out for someone to pick the team he has, makes loads of sence (for the villa game) 5 across the middle 2 wide guys supporting oba, kinnear out spyro in as the next manager
112 Bill B // Oct 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Taylor is one of the worst defender in the premier league along with Dawson, Bramble and Assou-Ekotto. once again last night Taylor turned his back to the forward what kind of tackle is that and whats all this slowness from Given kicking the ball up field letting all WBA Defenders getting back in there half
113 toonarmy1 // Oct 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM
taylor is a good defender u tit
114 CHUCK // Oct 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Given
Beye** Taylor** Colocinni** Enrique
Jonas**Barton**N`Zogbia**duff
Shola****Martins
Bring in Guthrie if Barton tires
Bassong if enrique tires or has a bad game
Xisco Give him some game time as a confidence builder.
Owen late for martins if fit
Swich Duff to RW N`Zog to LW, Geremi toDM
take off Jonas if he tires.
Got it Joe !
Makes you realize what a small squad we have Eh !
115 ron_kasorga // Oct 30, 2008 at 7:03 AM
Totally AGREE with Bill B. Get rid off Taylor !!!!!! He never learnt.
Get out BUTT from the system too. Give aways too many free kicks and cost us dearly at Stadium of Light.
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