Butt and Barton Likely To Start Villa Game In Midfield

Tuesday saw the return of Joey Barton to the starting line-up, but Nicky Butt was out injured, so Joey formed a more than useful partnership with Danny Guthrie, in the middle of the park, with Danny playing the defensive midfield role.

Joey Barton – hand on  badge on Tuesday after scoring penalty

Danny hopes he can learn a lot from playing alongside the controversial England international.

Danny talked today about Joey Barton:

“Joey worked his socks off, got his penalty and that will make life a bit easier for him,” “He just wants to play football now.”

“You do hear managers say it’s good to have certain players in the dressing room, you can say that about Joey and Nicky Butt. I can learn off both.”

“The most important thing is we are getting players back now. The more players we have available, the better for the squad.”

“We had Jonás (Gutiérrez) back as well and that’s great for us all. To see players returning lifts the team.”

Danny is turning out to be a great buy for this club, and he already has racked up 9 appearances for Newcastle, and would have had 12 but for his sending off in the last minute of our first game without Kevin Keegan – against Hull City.

Danny has played very solidly for the team. Just watch when he plays how he hardly never gives the ball away – that’s one of his strengths and he plays the simple game – but that’s always the sign of a very good player, to play within himself and his abilities.

But Danny may be the one to miss out in midfield next Monday if Nicky Butt is fit, because we think Joe sees Barton and Butt as an excellent pair for us in the middle of the park.

If Danny does miss out he will be unlucky, but he’s young and has just a great attitude, and his time will come at Newcastle United, make no mistake about that.

We think we can field a very strong side next Monday evening against Villa, and that should be a great match. We are also expecting Ignacio Gutierrez to be very near a return to training, although we’ve heard nothing from the Newcastle medical staff on his condition.

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43 comments so far

  • Ausgeordie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #1


  • Ausgeordie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #2

    Looks like he is being turned into a future defensive midfielder

  • dougnufc

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #3

    After leaving San Siro, Jose Mourinho was asked if he was going to help Spurs get out of their slump. He turned around and said, “No way, I ain’t that special”.

  • Steve

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #4

    I think Guthrie will be a great signing for us. Compare him to Butt, who gives the ball away constantly by playing long passes without looking where he is playing it.

  • NotAGhostToon

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #5

    Ignacio Gutierrez? Its weird we actually seem to have some selection headaches for this next game, whose to play leftback, whose to play central mid and whose to play upfront. I think i’d like to see the same side as tuesday start, but with earlier subs of owen and butt around the 60′ mark.

  • Beattie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #6

    not butt.

    so will it be another penalty or a dangerous free kick that he gives away next game?

    he was good last season but he’s been terrible this one, could he be over the hill?

  • Toony

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #7

    I assume you meant Ignacio Gonzales who we have on loan but has been permanently and mysteriously injured. Do we know if he really exists or was he a phantom Wise signing?

  • Timberhead Toon

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #8

    Butt should not be back yet as he has been very poor 3 goals he has cost us so far. Keep the GB partnership.

  • AO

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #9

    dougnufc- good one. you obviously didnt watch the arsenal game. with players like modric,bentley,jenas,lennon,woodgate i dont know how you can be so cocky. especialy when the barcodes will be back in the bottom 3 after this weekends fixtures

  • Davies

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #10

    Butt seems to take a lot of games to get warmed up properly. He was dire last season, right up until the second time we played Birmingham. After that, he was probably our best player. I hope he regains his form soon, otherwise it may all be over for him.

  • Davies

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #11

    AO – Only because we won’t be playing until Monday evening.

    Don’t get me wrong mate, Spurs put up a hell of a fight last night, but if we drop back into the bottom three (even after monday night) Spurs will be there to cushion us from hitting the bottom.

  • cr_23

    Oct 30, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Which play have you been watching Ed? He often hits misplaced passes, and i would say he gives the ball away for 50% of the passes he makes.

    And i highlly doubt he’ll play Butt against Villa, after we’ve just got our first win. The midfield will reamin the same, owen could comin in, and possible swap between enrique and bassong.

  • Rasko a.k.a Hadji

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #13

    AO…..With the players you’ve just mentioned,you should be fighting for CL……that tells me everything about your team.
    Your defence sucks big time and its made of glass.
    The thing you acchieved last night wont happen in a million years from now cos almost every shot you made it went in.

    I wouldn’t mind your league position atm if you didnt make those statements before the start of the season that you gonna go for the title or at least CL spot.
    How embarasing……hahahaha

  • mickvic

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #14

    Butt is no solution; he’s the main problem. His legs have gone; he can only trot back and trip people on the edge of the area; he gives goals away disappears from the game, and is a yellow card (if not red) waiting to happen. I cannot believe the way various leading punters and managers speak of him in glowing terms- does he have something on them. The Northern Echo on Monday gave him the top marks of 7!!! They are watching a different game to me. Lets kick Butt (into touch)

  • Ganiyu

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #15

    If butt plays we jose.if he has experience what comment do you have on fabregas

  • Karltoon

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #16

    He’s good

  • Dan13

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #17

    Just me who thought Enrique looked like a complete idiot on the pitch?!
    Bassong anyday, yes he didn’t play up to scratch sunderland, but he is a better player.

  • paul

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #18

    butt is crap this season – lost 3 games cos of him! bench warmer at most. experience means nothing if u cant win

  • sweendog

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #19

    AO .. teletubbies .. is your show not on CBeebies at the minute ..
    look you are on the wrong site this isn’t a Spuds .. oh we’re gonna be top four (of the championship)..
    Yous won last night .. fair play .. arsenal fell asleep when they were 4-2 up .. but your ma needs to fix that Internet lock as you now on adults sites ..

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #20

    Enrique needs some games mate, don’t give up on him yet mate!..
    …These things can take time!..

  • sweendog

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #21

    Butt vs Guthrie .. Guthrie anyday .. we just need to settle on Barton/Guthrie midfield and let them work on positioning and playing together .. we’ll do alot better this way than having Butt there..
    See Villa won again and are in the top 4 .. we’ll have to play well to get any result against them..

    Mon the Magpies …..

  • reillers

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #22

    Butt works his socks off, he’s a work horse and he tries really hard, all day day long.
    But..I could try to fly a plane and no matter how long I triedchances are that 99.9% of the time I’d still fail Maybe I’d get it right the odd 0.1% of the time, but just because I can go into the cockpit doesn’t mean I can fly the plane.
    That’s (a very random comparison I know. LOL!!) like with Butt. He’ll try and try all day in midfield but he’ll still99.9% of the time, screw up and fail.
    I’d much prefer have Guthrie there instead, he wouldn’t crash it as much.

    And besides, I was hoping we’d keep the captaincy with wee Shay. He’s 100% record being captain..apparently.

  • sweendog

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #23

    Punk Skunk .. agreed Enrique needs games .. can’t judge him yet..

  • Turkish magpie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #24

    Aye punk skunk

    Coloccini needed time to adapt to the league and look how he’s playing now!

    Enrique just needs time from returning from injury

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #25

    we have to haven’t we?..
    …I also agree with keepin’ faith with Barton & Guthrie in MF…We MUST sick with players, keep playin’ them together, we need continuity, a solid core team always does better than changin’every other game!..
    …& after all they’ve played one game together, Ho’way let’s see how it goes!..

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #26

    True Turkish,
    we’ve gotta desist with this: he’s screwed up, he’s crap, get rid mentality…
    …It’s dumb & deeply unfashionable…

    …My little joke!..

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #27

    Aye villa only just won, their defense ain’t very good like…

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #28

    Aye Reillers,
    Butt is nowhere near as bad as people make out…
    …Yes, i know he’s dropped clangers, who doesn’t, but y’right mate, he works his ass off for the team…& while he has the odd rush of blood, he also has played some great games for us!..

  • Losing the love of Premierleague

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #29

    Butt needs to be dropped. He is dead wood. He costs us too many points. The only thing which people say he has is experience…..but would experience dive in on a player in the penalty area (against Everton?)? Would experience allow Steed Malbranque to dribble with the ball into a dangerous position and would experience do a half arsed trip on Diouf when he should have been goal side in the first place? He is shocking in my opinion.

  • Punk Skunk

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #30

    Butt IS dropped!..

    …He ain’t got an injury, no-one is allowed to be ‘dropped’ now, they are always ‘injured’, it’s called ‘rotation’!..

  • Obafan

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #31

    Dan 13

    I’ve said it a few times; Enrique is not a special player. Last year he was okay in his defensive task, but this year (the games he played) he was not confident and made lots of stupid mistakes. Bassong played one bad game and was dropped immediately.

    How many bad games did Taylor play and how many times was he dropped?
    1. Taylor plays bad every single game
    2. Taylor was never dropped.

    Things are not going too honnest; Cacapa should play next to Colo.

  • skin d

    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #32

    to be honest i would go with butt and barton in midfield ,gutherie is struggling and is carrying recent demons he needs a rest.

  • redeye

    Oct 30, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #33

    Spurs – coming on here giving it the big ‘un after winning 2 games. FFS


    Oct 30, 2008 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #34

    For once I cannot follow your thoughts, ED…Guthrie was absolutely outstanding and I rate him much higher than BUTT. So I think the partnership will continue with Barton and rightly so!

  • Kevin Nichol

    Oct 30, 2008 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #35

    Spurs havent actually won two games! They won one and drew one!

  • redeye

    Oct 30, 2008 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #36

    @ Kevin Nichol – my bad. Your’re right. Makes my point even more valid though.

  • Macas

    Oct 30, 2008 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #37

    Bassong is not a left back and it shows. For me Enrique is by far the better player in that position. And Butt should definitely start against Villa or we will get torn apart. We couldnt even handle WBA with the central midfield we had so how does anyone expect us to cope with Villa? It’s funny bit I remember Speed getting loads of stick off Toon fans as well. Nothing really changes.

  • Flan

    Oct 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #38

    What do you all think about the John-Joe O Toole rumour? good to see that Wise is earning his massive salary by scouring the wolrd for up and coming talent aswell as the Watford bench.

  • tingjun

    Oct 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #39

    i think that butt should NOT play in the starting line -up against villa. he made mistakes, horrible tackles around the penalty box or outside. he soon will gets a red card one day!
    Bench – Harper,Bassong, N’Zogbia, Xisco,Ameobi
    first 11 against villa

  • Darling27

    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #40

    Nicky Butt shouldn’t be able to walk back into the starting line up after his last 3 performances. He’s a joke!!! Danny Guthrie should start ahead of him. If Nicky Butt was still at Man Utd he would be dropped!!!


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