Newcastle Pursue 20 Year-Old Irish Midfielder

The January transfer window mustn’t be too far away, because we have already been linked with at least one  promising youngster.

John Joe O’Toole – 6’2″ 20 year-old midfielder

There is news that we may make a move for Walford’s Republic of Ireland under-21 midfielder John Joe O’Toole. John was born in Harrow, England but is of Irish descent, and has played at least 4 times for the Ireland Under-21, side scoring one goal.

The 6’2” O’Toole, a midfield player, who turned 20 years old just a month ago, has been in very good form this season, scoring seven goals in 12 appearances for the Hornets.

He has already played 41 times for Watford in the League Championship and has scored 9 goals. We are being told that O’Toole could attract a £1M bid in the January transfer window, although we haven’t seen him play yet, but that would appear to be a reasonable deal.

O’Toole went on loan to Wealdstone last year and played 9 games for them, scoring 4 goals, so he certainly seems to have the knack of scoring goals from his midfield position.

However, unless something is sorted out before January, and new owners are installed, it will be a brave lad who will come to Newcastle United, after all the upheaval at the club, following Kevin Keegan’s resignation.

However, the club still has a good name and hopefully we can get something sorted out before the end of the year.   But if it’s not possible to sell the club before January, then owner Mike Ashley should tell us, and let us know what his plans are for then.

If they are he will not spend any money we may be in serious trouble.

Comments always very welcome.

33 comments so far

  • There are lots of good buys in the championship but im not sure about this guy, Its always a risk you dont know if they will make the step up. If we havent been sold doubt we will be buying anyone anyway.

  • 51times

    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #2

    The club must still be scouting for players, unless this is just paper talk. Which is probably is.

  • Obafan

    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #3

    Oh no it isn’t even November and the rumours are already starting.

    First of all we need:
    1. new owners and their plans with our club
    2. get rid of the average players (Taylor first to go for me)
    3. buy new players for the correct amount of money

    A few youngsters to come in isn’t bad at all, but we defo need senior squad players who can step into the team and EPL from the first time they are in Newcastle.


    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #4

    Whats the point in mentioning players the club may be interested in, when we are in a state of limbo.
    MA is not about to spend or take on any debt at this time and where did the rumor come from, are the scouts still activly looking to aquire prospects during the Jan. window ?
    Lotta speculation, same old wall of silence, must have retained the same old PR team.

  • UTD111

    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #5

    So the rumour mill hasn’t picked up on the fact that Ashley is not spending another penny on United……meaning this story is a total fabrication…..


    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #6

    Newcastle will sign Miguel Veloso from Sporting if we get new owners. Kinear wants to sign him.


    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #7

    Newcastle are going to sign Miguel Veloso from Sporting if we get new owners. Kinear wants to sign him. Good move. 🙂

  • reillers

    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #8

    I don’t know, he’s got potential all right. He’s a decent centre mid. But Do we want potential or do we want someone to throw in at the deep end that doesn’t drown??
    What strikes me most about him is his physique. He’s tall, rangy and athletic. It’s what we’re missing on the international scence, we’ve small players. He’s a decent finish on him in fairness but I don’t know if it’d be him being flung into the deep end.
    I don’t know if he’d be able to swim just yet. He’s just a wee lad.
    He’s potential all right, but he’s not that good in the way that he is barely on the international scene.

    In some of the games he’s been in he’s been a class act. Very quick, great vision and an excellent crossing and he knows where the back of the net is.

    He’s the combative type. He’s a tough tackling wee midfielder.

    From an Irish point of view central midfield looks good to be our strongest position in the future.

    He looks very promising but this all of this, the pressure of the Premiership, and the pressure of Newcastle, and the possibility of a relegation scrap might be a wee bit too hectic for the wee lad.

  • Little Willie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #9

    The story comes from Wise being spotted watching several Watford games since the season started, I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t move for him in January as there is money in the clubs account from the sale of Milner.

    He’s the sort of player that Newcastle fans will bitch and moan about because he isn’t the finished article but would bitch and moan that if the club didn’t go for him and he went on to be a class act somewhere else.

  • Turkish magpie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #10

    We dont even need a midfeilder we have cover for every position in midfeild!


    I know geremi isnt great but he can cross and has experience


    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #11

    If he is a real prospect and sounds like he is, then get him and let him develope with the rest of our youngsters.
    If he does`nt come good we can allways sell like we did with O`Brien, Pattison, etc.

  • james L

    Oct 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #12


    john heitinga 4 million
    juan pablo sorin free
    thomas graveson free
    john-joe o’toole 1million
    mathew etherington 5 million
    james macfadden 5 million
    ignacio gonzalez 2million (permanent)

    total:17 million spent


    geremi 1 million
    nzogbia 8 million
    smith 3million
    ameobi 2million
    viduka 1million
    butt 1million

    total: 16 million earned
    overall we would have spent only 1 million. not too much money for possible new owners to fork out. and those players would give you a team that looks like this:

    beye colocini heitinga sorin
    gutierez barton graveson etherignton
    martins owen

    bench: taylor / duff / o’toole / guthrie / gonzalez / enrique / macfadden /

    and ur still keeping bassong xisco edgar etc out the team

  • james L

    Oct 30, 2008 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #13

    Turkish magpie

    ‘geremi can cross.’ can he sh1te

  • AndyNUFC

    Oct 30, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #14

    Be so disappointed if this is the standard we’re going for. It’s so clear that we need reliable, experienced and TALENTED players, not another Guthrie with “potential”. I’m over the club buying players for “potential”, we need instant QUALITY.

  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Oct 30, 2008 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #15

    OBAFAN what a prat you are mark my words Taylor will Captain England

  • Xisco Stu

    Oct 30, 2008 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #16

    We should be looking for the next Torsten Frings, or Marco Senna. Basically someone who can be our midfield metronome.

    I would hope that Barton or Guthrie could do that but a player who does it as part of his natural game would be of huge benefit to the team.

  • matt(the original)

    Oct 30, 2008 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #17


    geremi can cross? i’d like to see those games, cause i havent seen any. maybe with chelsea? but def not here

    and taylor to captain england? i wish i could place a bet with you. the only reason he’d ever captain england is if the english clubs continue to turn a blind eye on nurturing their youngsters instead of buying foreigners. good possibility but even still, wheater, woodgate, king, i could see ferdinand (rio) being in the frame for quite awhile, terry’s still relatively young, anton ferdinand (who isnt that great but is better than taylor) richards, onahoa or whatever his name is. plenty more. tell me how he’s even gonna get a senior game, then try to say he’s gonna captain england. taylor is shit. if we get a replacement first oba, i agree, sell him, but not like we did with the milner deal, not at all

  • matt(the original)

    Oct 30, 2008 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #18

    and on the matter of internationals, mark my words:

    if england fail to win the world cup in 2010, united states will win it before them, i’ll put my bottom dollar on it. it’s alot easier to keep climbing then it is to stop a freefall


  • Brazilian Geordie

    Oct 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #19

    Oh well, I know Premier League is full of rules, but Newcastle could really think about signing the new brazilian ace Keirrison. He’s terrific, much more better than Pato, and also than Lucas and Anderson – that are not his position but are just MIDIA PLAYERS.

    Keirrison, if signs for Liverpool, will make a huge impact. But his rights belongs to a business called Traffic, and I really don’t know – as happened with Tevez with MSI – if he could move to English Football. Anyway, I think Palmeiras is very almost of contracting him.

  • Heavy hitters

    Oct 30, 2008 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #20

    It would be great if we had Johnny Evans a real good CB unlike Taylor who cannot defend to save his life. Just because a player plays for the U-21 means nothing, Bramble played for the U-21’s. I would play Bassong alongside Colo and just use Taylor as cover for now but ideally I would like to see Steven Taylor leave the club !

  • reillers

    Oct 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #21

    Matt..England are so, unbelievably overrated. Always have been and always will be.
    They believe that they’ve the right to win it because they’re the home of the beautiful game, more like the hosts these days.

    Ireland, will win it before England do. Don’t get me started on fans..USA USA. LOL!!


    Oct 30, 2008 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #22


  • Nick Cotton

    Oct 31, 2008 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #23

    James L you must be on the REAL gear mah, you ave ad too much mate its fried your ed. Where dyh grr it from mah.McFadden yeah stick the rest mah, mah lend us a couple of quid mah.

  • Keegan Jnr

    Oct 31, 2008 at 1:17 AM

    Comment #24

    Whats with the ‘Taylor Hating’ it wasn’t too long ago that evryone was loving Steve Taylor. Ok this seasons not been his best, but he has put quality performances in for u sin the past. He is still so young considering CB’s don’t enter there prime until their late twenties.

    How about instead of selling one of brightest prospects, we get rid of some of the dead weight, like the players that are too old i.e viduka,butt, cacapa and the players that havce no skill i.e. ameobi.

    The only reason i have not included smith and geremi is cause they do have spirit and always seem to want to do there best for the club, which is the kind of siege mentallity we need right now. Thinking about it who else bleeds bvlack and white??? oh yeah Taylor!

    I think the Taylor has given his all for the club and has had to deal with personnel changing around him pretty consistantly throughout his time in the firts team. If we give him and colo time to gel i think we could be onto one of the strongest central defensive partnerships that i have ever known at Newcastle.

    Am I on my own here?

  • matt(the original)

    Oct 31, 2008 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #25

    i think so, at least from my point of view. tayls is draggin colo down. cmon joe! just give bassong and colo a chance!!

    and ranger!!

  • reillers

    Oct 31, 2008 at 1:49 AM

    Comment #26

    Keegan Og..I’m sorry but if wee Taylor is a greta prospect then I’d hate to see a poor one.
    Wee young players like himself are supposed to get better with age and experience, he’s gotten worse. Ya CBs usually peak in their late 20s, I’m not saying we’re expecting him to be Vidic or Ferdinand..etc over night.
    But maybe a player that when wee Given looks at the teamsheet each week doesn’t make him sigh and dread the game if his names on it.
    A player that makes a keepers hard job even harder, because he’s to go around cleaning up his messes.
    Taylor this season has caused more trouble then good.
    Now yes Taylor is young, he’s 20/21 years old. But lets be honest looking at his games. Football wise, there’s not that much up there between the ears.
    Now maybe one day he’ll be great, but I’m sorry unless that one day is next week and not 10 years time, then I don’t have much patience. 10 years time will be too late, his form then is not going to save us now.
    Right NOW, he’s been poor, game after game, decision after decision, he’s made Given’s life on the pitch a living hell, that mans the patience of a Saint but I don’t know how he or anyone else at this stage hasn’t gone over and smacked him.
    He’s been poor, oh so very poor. That’s the form that he’s been on NOW. And now’s all that matters. You don’t play well you get dropped that’s how it should be.
    Instead we’re discussing who gets the armband him or Given, when the mere mention of Taylor’s name would send a shiver down Given’s (or Harper for that matter) neck, in the same way as Bramble did.
    Taylor as much as a prospect he might be, has been shocking and been an idiot on the field that there isn’t a fan who doesn’t close their eyes praying for divine intervention, everytime he gets near the ball.
    It’s harsh but it’s true. Right now he’s useless to us.

    Ya he’s had to deal with personal changing around him, but they all have, I wouldn’t put it beyond question that Given and Harper have a bet with eachother on how long a new manager will last everytime a new one comes in.

    Aye he’s a wee lad, but at some stage or another he’ll have to grow up.
    Other players his age have matured rapidly, players like McGeady who step out to taunts and boes on a regular bases because of the country he chose to play for.
    The whole weight of a club and country are on Rooney’s shoulders. Yet he manages supremley. Same with slave boy Ronaldo.
    And even that wee lad Walcott. He’s flying a year or so after they joked about him having to wear armbands in the pool in the new ground. cause he was so young.
    Or Fabregas who literelly carried the weight of the entire Arsenal football club on his shoulders last season. He managed to preform.

    They are pressures on another level that he will never experience. He’ll never, ever experience the type of pressure Rooney is put under every day of the football season be it with his club or country. He is just a wee lad and he’s expected to be their savior.
    Each one of them have stood up.

    This is the age they find themselves. This is the age that they are tested and answer the questions. They may not peak at this age but they show their promise. And truth be told, sadly, so far I’ve seen very little from Taylor. He needs to step up or the game will leave him behind and he’ll be left in the paddling pool with the wee little kiddies in the Championship.

  • shear_legend9

    Oct 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM

    Comment #27

    James L:

    john heitinga 4 million – NO
    juan pablo sorin free – NO
    thomas graveson free – DEFINITELY NOT
    john-joe o’toole 1million – maybe
    mathew etherington 5 million – Do we need another injury ridden player who won’t move from London anyway?
    james macfadden 5 million – Way overestimated, worth 2.5m max IMO
    ignacio gonzalez 2million (permanent) – no way, not proven himself

    total:17 million spent


    geremi 1 million
    nzogbia 8 million
    smith 3million – very lucky to get 3m
    ameobi 2million – i’d pay 2m to get rid of him
    viduka 1million – very lucky to get 1m
    butt 1million – ”

    Keegan Jnr, it’s nice to finally see someone like myself who actually sticks up for Taylor. He’s had to put up with the pressure of holding the defensive line together for so long and at such a young age (and at his hometown club) that could be destroying, but he’s coped. Now he’s finally got a more-than-mediocre centrehalf partner in Colo and his development can finally begin to take off without as much pressure on his shoulders. Doubters, give him a bleedin’ break.

  • Will

    Oct 31, 2008 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #28

    No New Owners = No New Players.


    Oct 31, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #29

    I never thought of that, James millner was sold for twelve million, Mike has said he’s not prepared to bank roll NUFC anymore. Will that 12m be in NUFC credit? you recon that’s what we’ll have to spend in january?

  • Obafan

    Oct 31, 2008 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #30


    If Taylor ever makes the England squad then I fear that it was’t the last time that your country missed a great tournament like Euro2008. If you have to rely on players like Taylor, Milner to get in your national team then it is not going into the right direction. And I know what I talk about, cause finally our national team is starting to get good results (Belgium), because we finally get very talented players.

    I think it is very good to support young players, like Taylor, but even a blind man can see that he is a complete disaster at present. Like someone said younger players need to improve their play, he isn’t improving at all he is going backwards. If you don’t see that then you don’t know anything about football.

  • Brazilian Geordie

    Oct 31, 2008 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #31

    Pablo Sorín – an idol here in Brazil by the way – just signed for Cruzeiro last year. But he didn’t played yet, will do just next season. So, no way he’ll leave the club.

  • dan

    Oct 31, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #32

    I think the reason it took so long for Taylor to get a big contract was because NUFC know he’s sh!t and didnt want to give him one.
    Honistly he is an absolute donkey for being turned and doesnt have the confidence to make a tackle until almost in his own net. These are traits that he won’t get rid of now. Taylor will never PLAY for england never mind being captain. Come on, there are so many better English CB’s than S.Taylor; Terry, Ferdinand, Richards, Carragher,
    If Man City bring in another CB to go with Dunne and Richards, I think we should make a serious bid for Onuoha, who is young and already better than Taylor.
    We will never win anything with Steven Taylor.

    4 Aston Villa;
    Beye, Coloccini, Bassong, Enrique
    Jonas, Butt, Barton, N’Zogbia
    Ameobi, Martins
    Owen and Ranger on the bench.

  • Obafan

    Oct 31, 2008 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #33


    I agree completely with your comment. I would just give Cacapa a start next to Colo and play Bassong as LB, cause Enrique is a danger at LB.


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