Who Controls The Transfer Dealings At Newcastle?

We’ve already been linked with players for the transfer window that will open up in January, but one good question right now is who controls the transfer dealings at the club, if anybody?

Joe Kinnear – with help from Chris and others – seems to be running club

When these reports say Newcastle are interested in a player, who is it at our club who may be interested?

Is it new boss Joe Kinnear, or Dennis Wise perhaps? We don’t have a permanent manager, and the Newcastle Board hardly seems to even exist in that capacity, so we’re not sure who the “who” is.

The better question is who puts a list together on players we should go after?  We assume Dennis Wise has a list, (that’s his job), and we assume he is still working for Newcastle, but there is even mystery about what the Newcastle Board are doing right now, while the club is being sold.

The answer is probably – not much – and Joe seems to be running the club on his own, and doing a decent job too, bless his heart.   Joe has reportedly also put a list together, so if the club is not sold before January, we assume Dennis and Joe will look at their lists and decide who they go after – given how much money Ashley will allocate.

Another good question of course is who has final say on which players we go after – but then we’re back to September 1st and why the club imploded.

If Mike Ashley is still trying to sell the club in January, it’s hard to see him giving any transfer funds in the January window.

Before January comes something will need to be sorted out, if the club is not sold, and if we still don’t have a buyer by January 1st, we need to do something. One thing would be to appoint Joe for the remainder of the season, but whether Ashley will give Joe any money to spend is extremely doubtful.

If the sale becomes bogged down Joe has earned a stay, and personally we think he could do very well in these adverse and tough circumstances – because if nothing else – he’s a fighter, and Joe seems so proud to be Newcastle manager. Not to mention he’s building up a decent relationship with both the players and the fans.

We suppose Joe could look for players who are free agents – like Lance Davids – but what a way to run a football club.   🙁

Oh well, let’s just hope we have a new owner soon, but we are starting to get a wee bit worried, with no word at all from Keith Harris for over two weeks now.

Comments welcome.

18 comments so far

  • Lost Prophet

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #1

    Wise is still there so you would assume he’s doing his job. I expect Joe to also have a wish list but I doubt that much notice will be taken of that (unless they are free or cheap) and he’s not going to rock the boat because he knows he’s there as a stop-gap. Ashley will not give anyone money if he’s still in charge and I would expect we will have to sell before we can buy. Its a sorry state no matter which way you look at it.

  • Slam Dunc

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #2

    Well the sale not going ahead leaves us in a tricky spot and the need for compromise.

    The main thing Ashley could do to win the fans over again would be to invest in the team. January would provide him with the opportunity to do that.

    I’ve linked here to a good debate on the issues around taking the first team forward:


    One things for certain, the longer we carry on in limbo the less the club is worth.

  • skin d

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #3

    i thnk joe will bring in a load of s##t clogger types,and recreate wimbledon.

  • adam

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #4

    Ashley will not be selling. WE all may aswell get used to it. He will spend some cash in the TW and buy the majority of Toon Fans bk over. Joe Kinnear will probably stay til the end of the season and we will be at best a mid table team. Time for all fans to take a reallity check. We have regressed for the past 5 years and teams like Villa, Pompy, Everton, Blackburn, Man City even Scumberland have passed us because of their infrastructure. If we are taking free’s, quietly building to get back into a top 6 team then so be it. There is no way we’re going to attract the big name players of the past and suddenly come top 6.

    So – lets get expectations in lin, get behind the team and be delighted with a top 10 finish this seaon.

    BTW – Do not want to see KK return to SJP as he spat his dummy out and has sold the club down the river. He has let us down more than MA. All the players bought in pre-season -even Xisco given some time are decent and if we can build on this what ever way in the next 12 – 18 months then I think we can be somewhere in 2 years.

    Howay the Lads; lets get behind them whatever the results

  • ??

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #5

    Ashley has already said in his long press release that he will be investing NO MORE funds into the club, becuase of the way he was treated.

    Kinnear has already come out and stated that he is looking into transfer targets, but he will most certainly have to sell to raise cash for transfers.

    If the club isnt sold before Xmas/New Year then we really are up shit creek without a paddle!

  • Doocey

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #6

    I agree with Slam Dune.

    Can’t the Toon take one leaf out of Spurs book?

    See how quickly they sorted the managerial crisis and the team are already back on track.

    We take months to get a new manager then to sack it 6 or seven month later.

    Hopefully under a new ownership this will change, for the better.

  • Toon Graeme

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #7

    The problem here is that we dont know what is going on. No news is good news? I do hope so.

    The fact is we need players in during January. I would love MO to sign a new contract but it aint gonna happen.

    Dark times off the pitch.

    I emailled the Chronicle boys to see if they could get us some info about the sale. I have not had the chance to check my email as at work and was too busy last night that I forgot when I was at home.

  • graeme

    Oct 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Ashley has to protect his investment, no matter what his clash with some of the fans has resulted in. The better the league position, the better his chance of completeing the sale.

    If the club is not sold by the end of November, then the chances of new owners being in place to take advantage of the January wiundow would seem slight at best. MA will have little choice but to spend some of the money he made on Milner etc, to strengthen the squad to get us through to the end of the season without being relegated.

    If we end up being relegated, the value of the club will plummet through the floor, which directly affects his wallet.

  • skin d

    Oct 31, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #9

    kk let us down more than ashley,i dont think so we,re in this mess because of ashley plain and simple.
    you could see the seeds of this being sown when big sam was in charge.
    adam you dont want kk back ,this wont happen anyway while fat f##k,s there.
    mike ashley was the one who brought keegan back,because he was shortsighted greedy b#####d who is so tight he wouldn,t pay a decent man to come.
    i think he will sell because this is what he has wanted all along.
    i think ma came with the best intentions at the start,but then realised how much money it took to run a club.
    i think he has been trying to sell the club after only a couple of months after buying it,and the cost cutting has just been a stalling tactic until this happens.
    i think the keegan situation was a stroke of luck for ashley and gave him the excuse he has been looking for to offload the club.
    people who know ashley know that is how he operates,he buys and turns commodities over for quick profit,why would our club be any different?.
    if ashley does stay we will go down,because he simply isn,t intrested in our club full stop.

  • skin d

    Oct 31, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #10

    ashley dont even think about trying to worm your way back in you c##t.
    i,d rather have mao tsu tung run the club than you,you fat twat.
    SELL THE CLUB AND F##K OFF !!!!!!.

  • Bill F (Original)

    Oct 31, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #11

    I agree with the belief that it won’t be Joe although I’ve no doubt he has a wish list. He has obvious ambitions to keep the job so he aint going to rock the boat too much although he doesn’t come across as a total yes man either. The TW will be a defining moment of intentions by MA if he still owns the club although it’s a bit early for us to start agonizing, isn’t it?

  • Geordie Jayne

    Oct 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #12

    Ashley bought a toy, which he did not read the instructions for and left out some vital pieces, end result not working properly with cogs missing.

    Ashley is 100 per cent to blame……

    I would have Keegan back anyday without a shadow of doubt….I won’t change my view at all…but do respect other peoples opinions even if I don’t agree with them

  • ObaFan2

    Oct 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #13

    Ahley needs to go for the better of the club however his greed is not helping any sale. There is no going back in my books, Ashley made his position quite clear when he kept his southern based buddies at the club rather than backing the people who get the performances on the pitch.

    Now because of Ashley we will lose Owen and no doubt others. If JFK needs to sell to buy then who is worth anything? Oba, Spidey, Shay, Zog, Beye, Colo and others…. our better players basically! Dukes and Butt are gettin on, oh what a state our club is in……

    and it’s all down to one man ASHLEY, get the f outta our club before you destroy it completely.

  • ObaFan2

    Oct 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #14

    Oh and what a stroke of genious for Ashley’s bank balance bringing in JFK, £10k a week plus win/draw bonuses….. quids in again Ashley, what a real money making machine you are but club owner you are NOT.

  • Waddle's Mullet

    Oct 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #15

    D-D 22nd November 2008

    Obviously not sold then.

  • neeraj

    Oct 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #16

    i dont want ashley out

    for the first time we were looking for players who want to build their careers with nufc, not end it……

    i guess he should be more open with fans with his plans, just to stop media spitting on us…….

    if transfer budget would be generaed by kinnear then these are the players who would be going out

    OWEN- 6mill
    GEREMI- 1 mill
    BUTT- 1 mill
    SMITH- 2 mill

    total= 16mill

    and we would be buying players, young players like who plays for watford and the south african guy whom we had on trial last season

    and couple of players on loan


    Oct 31, 2008 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #17

    One of the reasons the club finds itsself in the present condition is THE WALL OF SILENCE,
    either the fault of Ashley directly or the PR department.
    Its essential that there is some sort of communication be-tween management and fans,unfortunately this has not been the case
    and has led to misunderstanding and dissent.
    Certainly the fans bear a fair amount of responsibility, one group recently asking for a meeting with MA.
    The arrogance and naivety, to think a small radical group represent the majority of fans and can negotiate anything is beyond belief.
    I may be wrong but it appears the sale is not going well, whether due to the present economic conditions or the asking price.
    The result may be a reconsideration on the part of MA to in fact remain as majority owner with a minority stake sold to interested investors.
    If that were the case a reconsiliation is required
    for the overall good of the club.
    When your first choice players are people like Nicky Butt and Guthrie, you know you are in trouble and desperately need reinforcements.
    To be completely in the dark about whether there is any chance of it happening is pure frustration.


    Oct 31, 2008 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #18



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