Kinnear Could Become Permanent Manager At Newcastle

When Joe Kinnear was appointed the successor to Kevin Keegan in the Newcastle manager job, it raised more than a few eyebrows, but Joe has done a good job at the club, and he has – at the very least – settled the players down, and we’ve started to play some decent football.

Joe Kinnear – long term manager?

As we reported earlier today, there are hints coming through that Mike Ashley may not be able to sell the club in the current world economic environment, and he may be forced to go to plan B, which would probably see Ashley own the club through the end of this season.

Joe seems to have really enjoyed his time at Newcastle, and seems to be manager of such a famous club, where it appears he is running it all on his lonesome.

Joe said yesterday:

“I still want to be successful and do the best I possibly can,” “I do the same with any job I go into.” “I’m aware that this is arguably the best job I’ve ever had and I’d love to keep it.”

“If it’s not to be then there’s no point in me saying that I didn’t know it from day one. After the Chelsea game [on November 22] I’m going to have to wait and see, but the club might have been sold before the Chelsea match.”

“I’ve spoken to Dennis Wise who’s Director of Football, I spoke to owner Mike Ashley and said, ‘is there a game-plan?’ He said that he’d let us know exactly what the future is and exactly where we’re coming from after the Chelsea match.”

“I’d love to have finances available to strengthen the team if I’m still in charge. It very much just boils down to if I’m still here.”

We’ll know what will happen in 3 weeks time, but until that time it’s extremely important we knuckle down and get some good results in the league.  Our next 3 games against Aston Villa (H), Fulham (A) and Wigan (H) should net us at least 6 points – hopefully.

Then comes the Chelsea game and hopefully some statement from Mike Ashley, and we think he’ll either have a new owner revealed, or Mike will be staying longer term, and probably at least through the end of this season.

If that happens we expect Joe to be hired full time – assuming the results in the next 3 games are not a disaster.

Comments welcome.

56 comments so far

  • adam

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    PLEASE NO! in this season on chaos lets not scar ourselves for a long time by making rash decisions and then regret it later on.

    lets just wait till the club is sold and then get in a good quality manager.

    im still up for van gaal or even ramos

  • Kenneth

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #2


  • NUFutureCowboy

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #3

    the club wont be sold and joe is the new manager. these little stories are just getting us prepared for when it is official. lets all forget about buy outs and new managers and get behind the lads and joe. its time to pull our heads out the sand and take up the challenge in front of all of us. support, support,support. thats all we can do.
    lets all show a bit of true geordie pride. (even if we dont like the situation)

  • Scottynine

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #4

    Please God No !!

    this club is better then that if he comes in full time we are doomed and will be Relegated.

    What the F**K is Ashley playing at.

  • hitman

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #5

    ashley,ya tw@t do one,your not wanted,drop ya price.

  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #6

    All we have are the players and we know we wont have owen next year so lets put our support behind who we have and try and get them to victory

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #7

    My ma went to school with Mike Ashleys ma, she always told porkies.Say no more guv.

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #8

    as i have said many times i would have
    louis van gaal

    plays good football (which is a must )

    can handle pressure

    can rejuvanate the academy

    will get the team motivated

  • clarenufc

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #9

    i actually think the club is being sold
    because think about it if it wasnt they would make the meeting next week or in a few days not november 22nd
    that is like 3 weeks away which gives time for the club to actually be sold with all the diligence to go through

  • evildick

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #10

    to be honest i’d be suprised if we got 3 points from those 3 games… more like 1

  • cause I got the girth

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #11

    glenn roeder all over again…say no more!
    would be the most short sighted appointment ever!

  • Sav

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #12

    Frankly lads, if Ashley can’t sell before the end of November and is forced to carry on, who else would have us? Van Gaal? Don’t make me laugh.
    We are still in exactly the same boat we were in when JFK arrived here – not mightily impressed but still very glad to get him.
    The club could still be sold as soon as an offer comes in, Dennis Wise is still in his post and the fans still on ‘Code Red’. Only a fool or someone as desperate as Joe would accept it. Thankfully we found someone who is both desperate and not too bad.
    Be humble and be thankful.

  • Paul:D

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #13

    new owners and keegan, shearer, ketsabaia, or beardsly, or someone int he similar criteria

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #14

    this is just more confirmation of what a sad amateur cowboy of an owner we have.
    i really thought the bad days were over,and we,ve had a few,westwood,seymour,mckeag,shepherd.
    this is the lowest and most despairing time ever,i think with shepherd because they were local they were the b#####d,s you knew.
    this situation with outsiders f##kin’ up our club from 300 mile away far surpasses anything else we,ve had.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #15

    mike ashley is a complete joke,he is shortsighted and this latest episode in how to ruin a football club is pathetic.
    i can see us this time next year looking for yet another manager,when joe drops the bollock.
    it will definatley end in tears.

  • Teazy

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #16

    This has to be a joke? I like JK as a character, but seriously, we are no better than we were before he arrived.
    We were completely outplayed by the Scum, lucky to hold on against a West Brom team that played us off the park passing and movement wise, lucky against Citeh, and got a decent result against a poor Everton.
    Our style of play is very poor, the team looks unfit, and with all of this folk are talking about JK reviving the team!
    Dream on people we are down unless we get a quality Owner, Manager and more 1st team players.

  • A.L. 9

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #17

    NO, I thank the man for steadying the ship at Newcastle I realy do, but we need a TOP manager who is alloud to handle the transfers on his own. We done the same thing with Glen when we basicaly just gave him the job out of courtesy, and also when you say we’ve played good footbll, we have not, we played well for 15 minutes against west brom, we were poor against Sunderland, we battled well with 10 men against Citeh and we played fairly well against a sub-par Everton side on the day.

    I hope he gets a job after this, as i’m sure one of the Championship sides will be interested. I wish him good luck but he CANNOT stay.

  • neeraj

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #18

    personally i would like to have him for this season…

    and based on his performance he should be given full time contract……

  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #19

    The irony – fellow toon fans being critical of short sightedness!

    OK, if Ashley cannot sell the club, which is looking increasingly unlikely – then what?

    In truth, the best we can hope for is a small amount of investment in January and hopefully a restructure to demonstrate to a new manager that they would have full control over the club and players, then a delayed sale.

    We won’t get a big manager until that point. So, the fanciful suggestions for top class managers and players are exactly that.

    I believe Joe will keep the club afloat – mid table perhaps, but we will need to support him and the players over the rest of the season – otherwise Ashley, Joe and NUFC failing will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

  • Swanx

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #20

    This talk of him getting the job full time is real BS. He has only won 1 game in the time he has been here and now everyone thinks that he is the man for the job, we are better than that. Stop this S^^^E

  • ObaFan2

    Nov 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Can only agree with the majority, this is indeed a dark time for NUFC.

    OK, JFK is a canny bloke but not right to be our manager, I personally think he could be a top assistant manager here.

    As for Ashley, the more time goes on the more I believe he is a total conman who only has his wallet in mind.

    He has lied to us all, our previous managers, players and fans.

    I will continue to boycott all merchandise etc as long as he still owns the club and recommend everyone to do the same and keep the pressure on him to sell and sell quickly.

    Let’s think…. once bitten twice shy…….. Ashley has destroyed our club and two seasons so far, let’s put a stop to this so he doesn’t wreck a third season too.

    Managed a post about him without swearing……ah too late F O you useless fat t**t.

  • steve

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #22

    I see all the whingers are on this blog again, don’t you lot realise that there is a major credit crunch going on.
    Last weeks announcement from Porsche (that they either owned or had options on just about all VW stock) has caused major banks (GS, MS, JPM) as well as a load of hedge funds. Suppose it serves em right for shorting the stock but the billions lost will affect most people with a ton of cash.

    I can’t see anyone in thier right minds buying a football club under these conditions – time to start the fans buyout thread again.

    We can def win on Mon night but will need to be at the top of our game and Villa not

  • Ian

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #23

    As long as we are winning matches I dont care if it is the Pope running the team. If Joe wins again then we are further from relegation and relegation is all we can concentrate on with this owner, if we get to the transfer window he will be looking at who he can sell and who we can get for 50p as it is clear thats as complicated as Ashley’s thinking gets.

    If anyone ever buys the club then we can start to think again.

  • steve

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #24

    I can’t see how Ashley has destroyed our club – we’ve been in almost exactly this position under Souness, Roeder, BSA over the last 5 or 6 years – the rot started ages ago.

    Still think we’re to good to go down as long as the players actually play as a team and put the effort in, obviously we aren’t going to make europe but lower mid table should be easy enough (which is where we’ve been quite a lot over the last few years)

  • JJ

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #25

    JK is not anywhere near good enough to manage Newcastle full time and would merely be a puppet for Ashley.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #26

    dee jay, was it not shortsighted not to bring his own man in from the start.
    was it not shortsighted bringing in keegan,because no one else wanted the job and knowing keegans history.
    and now in the aftermath of keegangate lack of investment etc,is it not shortsighted to bring in another man who long term isn,t up to it.

  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #27

    OK, so for everyone posting that he’s not good enough. Could you answer:

    1) Why would anyone buy the club at the moment, given the financial situation?

    1) If the club is not sold and therefore no funds are available for buying players, who would you want to take the job?

    2) Given the above, and the uncertainty about the club and therefore their future, who from the above would accept the job, and why?

  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #28

    excuse my numbers – was supposed to be 1,2,3 rather than 1,1,2!

  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #29

    Skind: Maybe he was short sighted. However, most of us live in the present – answer my questions – who would you bring in if you were given the choice, and what makes you think anyone better than JK would accept?

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #30

    steve, i know was your saying in that respect but wasn,t the purpose of ashley coming in was to make us global (snigger snigger) not go sideways if not worse than the prior regime.
    the fact is in over a year and half no progress has been made period.

  • Shot Bru!

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #31

    If Kinnear remains as manager we’re gonna struggle all season long, without a doubt. His style of play is negative and outdated, i guess we knew that before he came anyway. He will slowly grind down our flair players with his long ball tactics, forcing them to leave. The players look unfit because they are bereft of confidence. His substitution of Jonas during the West Brom game was ludicrous, Jonas is our most creative and best player by a mile, his excuse that he’d just returned from injury was a poor one, he is one of the naturally fittest players i’ve ever seen. Jonas’s body language said it all when he came off, he will end up at liverpool in Jan if Kinnear remains in charge. As for buying players in Jan, which decent players are gonna want to come and play for us and ruin their careers, the same can be said of any half decent manager. This place is quickly gaining a reputation as a graveyard for players and managers alike. Now we’ve started to look at yet more french players from their u21’s, great for team morale, if our past record of buying frnchman goes.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #32

    dee jay, i myself am not stupid enough to think we,re going to get people like hiddink,van gaal etc.
    i have myself been critical of people who have posted on here suggesting the very thing.
    i applaud joe for coming in and giving us a hand,but long term i dont think he is the answer.
    i fear if we give joe the full time gig he will inevitably f##k it up along the line.
    we will then be back to square one,dee jay be honest do you think joe would be given the time to do something?in a word no chance.
    there are plenty of managers across europe,who working within a proper structure ie having control of transfers etc,that would do the job.
    i think that,s why no,one wanted the post because of the unworkable system.
    we dont have to be after big name men anyway it could be some one up and coming.

  • Kenneth

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #33

    DeeJay :

    We are just saying, dont appoint JK full time. He is not the answer. Keep him on a rolling contract till either the club is sold or a new manager comes in.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #34

    dee jay, i,ll tell who has said they would take it on a couple of ocassions the tinkerman ranieri.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #35

    does anyone think ranieri would be a good shout,he has intimated on a few ocassions he would be interested.
    i dont think this to. be too deluded of a choice,i think he done okay at chelsea but was treated badly.
    ranieri is also a character,good tactician also .

  • pak-toon

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #36

    i hope lewis’ engine blows up tomorrow!


  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #37

    Kenneth: Maybe I wasn’t clear – I doubt Ashley will be able to sell the club this season. Rather than introduce more disruption, I’d suggest JK should continue to do the job until the end of the season at the earliest, and possibly longer if the club is not sold.

    He’s doing a reasonable job with the constraints he has to work with, mainly the current squad and inability to spend.

    At the end of the current season, assuming we’ve seen the bottom of the financial crisis, I’d hope that the club be sold or the current structure scrapped and money be publicly made available to a new manager.

    I’m personally unsure as to whether Shearer could do the job, but from what he’s said I’d be surprised if either MA or one of the interested parties haven’t already spoken to him about the job….

  • DeeJay

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #38

    skind: Ranieri. He’s an option I suppose, but would he really be interested when the club is up to sale.

    I seem to remember him talking himself into the job when they appointing Keegan, not the latest position.

  • skin d

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #39

    that,s what i mean deejay before ashley appointed keegan,that is when he should have had more nous and brought someone i like the tinkerman.

  • Gordon

    Nov 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #40



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