Newcastle Will Go Above Sunderland With Villa Win


After Sunderland were hammered 5-0 at Chelsea this afternoon, a win against Aston Villa on Monday night, will take Newcastle above Sunderland in the league.

Roy Keane – not happy – two successive defeats since Newcastle win

Sunderland are on 12 points but their goal difference is a poor -12 compared with Newcastle -6, so if we can secure 3 points against the Villa at St. James’ Park, we will go above Sunderland in the league table.

And that’s just a short 10 days after Sunderland beat us at Sunderland for the first time in 28 years, which caused tremendous gloom and doom on Tyneside, and the opposite effect on Wearside.

If that isn’t a tremendous incentive to win the game on Monday night for Newcastle, we don’t know what is.

Strange game this football.

Howay The lads.



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89 comments so far

  • Will

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #1

    ha ha

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  • neeraj

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #2

    now we wtll be playing villa game for two reasons

    get out of drop zone
    get ahead of mackems

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  • Turkish magpie

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #3

    3 reasons

    We will kick start our season with a win and it could be 4wins out of 4
    and that might give newcastle confidence against chelsea!

    Well stoke beat Arsenal!

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  • Bart

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #4

    Too confident will come out with nothing.
    We are cursed!

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  • Beezeri

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #5

    What does that tell about our current situation if the mackems were much better than us and now they have lost 2 in a row against STOKE and Chelski…

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  • raghav

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #6

    villa are definetley a good side ,even a draw wouldn’t be bad.just hoping we could beat them6-0

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #7

    does any 1 know what the villa side will be

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  • Big Dave

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #8

    it was great to see them getting hammered and the dog lover getting red carded lol. as for villa i just hope milner dosent get playing.

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  • IrishMan

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #9

    Fact is we are back in bottom three at the moment.

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  • ruud gullit

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #10

    lol but we all know newcastle will not win on monday don’t we?

    also i think sunderland fans will not be too dissapointed as chelsea are in a different class to the rest of the prem and getting beat 5-0 to them aint that bad considering,i mean the smogs got beat 5-0 at the smog ground off chelsea the other week.
    Keane was stupid playing waghorn up front and cisse on the bench and we miss gordon in goal,he keeps dropping first team players because they make a small mistake and dont meet hes high standards i agree keane is a prick not all sunderland fans like him,albeit he has taken the club a long way in a short space of time.

    Sunderland will finish well higher than newcastle and its early days yet,we will push on with the january£35-50m signings.

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  • ed_speed

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #11

    ‘mon the lads.

    regards,
    ed

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  • parisianrob

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #12

    Well

    friedel
    young cueller larsen shorey
    sidwell young barry milner
    carew agbonlahor

    dream on toon you need to play 8-1-1 to get point

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  • TheToonRock

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #13

    The difference between Newcastle United of the nineties era under the guidance of Kevin Keegan and the Newcastle United of today under the guidance of Joe Kinnear is that we could face clubs such as West Brom, Hull City, Bolton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers and Aston Villa and finish the task at hand with an oozing confidence of expectancy that haunted the opponents before the referee blew his whistle for kick-off. Winning was not a rare event, it was a way of life for all Newcastle fans like you and me. The air of expectant and confident chants roaring from 50,000 fans filled Saint James Park like a death trap which suffocated our opponents into defeat. Today, believe in me when I say, those clubs are not inferior in comparison to us anymore. They no longer become overwhelmed by the fear of feeling a chilling wave of sound creep down their spine before facing our team. This Monday, against Martin O’Neils Aston Villa, we will be facing the toughest and most challenging opponents thus far in this season, and it all comes crashing to reality, this, Monday. There is no guarantee that you, me or any of us as Newcastle United fans will have the privilege and honor of witnessing Newcastle play in the premier league next season unless WE start believing that we can walk out the enormous gate of Saint James victorious. Winning is a habit, and a habits roots is born from thoughts. A thought will always sooner or later inevitably turn into an action. So if YOU think we will lose, if YOU think we will struggle, if YOU fear that we will crumble, then it will be our LAST PLAY. Now you all may think that we will always survive the drop because it has been that way every single season in the top flight…It is not that way, it is far from it. Its special to taste victory, its special to be chanting among the victorious group of supporters and it shall remain a special experience for all fans across the globe. YOU have got to have an insatiable fire within your stomach that tells you I want victory to be there when the final whistle blows in the worst way! YOU cant afford to be plain, and you cant afford to be unemotional. Ladies and Gentleman, THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL GAME! WE have got to find the inspiration to WIN straight from our hearts, and come Monday night, WE have to voice our inspiration with our hearts! Do YOU, I or any of us for that matter understand what THE LAST CHANT means? Last Chant…You chant every single moment of every match as if it were the last chant you will ever voice! And if we dont chant with emotion, if we dont support our club with the last chant every match…it could and will be our last. Every single fan in this city and abroad, think about your last chant, think about what that means. You think what it means to voice your last chant…this is my last chant ever! My last chant…how do I want it to be? How do I want to be remembered? My last chant for every chance I get!

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  • ed_speed

    Nov 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #14

    where did you copy and paste that from,the toon rock?

    regards,
    ed

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  • Villa 4 Ever

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #15

    beyethegreat ::

    The Villa side will probably be a 4,3,3/4,5,1

    Friedel, Shorley, Cueller, Laursen, Young, Young, Barry, Reo Coker, Sidwell, Milner, Agbonlahor……………. if we play 4,4,2 then Carew will be on for Sidwell.

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  • james L

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #16

    cannot see us beeting villa

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  • chefdoc2000

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #17

    Sorry Lads, but I think ye are all gone mad the way ye are talking.
    Do ye know who ye are playing…it’s Aston Villa
    We are playing to go above Man Utd not Sunderland.
    We have not got in that postion for nothing you know.

    Milner will be playing and don’t be surprized when he scores.
    I’ll be putting on a wager for him to score and I suggest you guys do the same.

    Anyway good luck but I think the class and stablity of Aston Villa will shine through

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  • TheToonRock

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Ed, unfortunately pal I copied and pasted it from my own text that I wrote on the Newcastle TeamTalk forum, which may add I have been a long lasting contributor in. Thank you for undermining me by having shared a very important passion that I have, Newcastle United! I felt that it wouldn’t hurt anyone if I could reach across to as many of my fellow fans and share my view. Is it raw feelings that I shared: Absolutely. The important aspect that I think we should focus on at the moment Ed, is if it had an impact on you, and if it has, then I guess my efforts have not been empty handed… ToonArmy for-ever!

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  • ed_speed

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #19

    i was only joking, rock. i’m going to the Fulham game, will i be seeing you there?

    regards,
    ed

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  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #20

    The boys play the way the supports do. We get nervous and clam up in the stands they do it on the pitch. NO FEAR!!!!!! NO BUTTS!!!!

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  • canamag

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #21

    toonrock ,the capacity in the mid nineties was only about 36,000

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  • neeraj

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #22

    toon rock

    one unsaid rule of the community

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #23

    this was villas team against blackburn so i am guessing this will be the same or similar side they paly against us

    ______________friedel______________

    young______cuel_______laur______shorey

    milner______coker______barry_____young
    ______________petrov_______________

    what may be our team

    _______________given_______________

    beye_______tayl_______colo________jose

    duff_______butt_______guth_______jonas

    __________oba_______shola__________

    a key battle for me will be gutierrez v young
    gutierrez is as good getting back as he is going forward so this will mean that young will have something else to cope with when he gets forward where as when gutierez gets forward young isnt as good at getting back(though still an absolutely brilliant player)

    a big question will be whether our defence can cope with the pace of agbonlahor my bet is no

    also how will butt fair imo he has had a bad season however a rest may have done him the world of good-who knows ?

    also if we are to have any chance we need our win against wba to have given the playersa big confidence boost

    it should also be noted thaat if we sit back like we did against wba they will probably beat us quite well as they have a lot more cutting edge and quality

    if we are going to get something all our players have to perform and kinnear will have to do better tactically

    well there is what i think and im predicting a villa win

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  • neeraj

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #24

    well i pressed tab and enter

    NEVER EVER MIND WHAT ED SPEED SAYS

    well love the passion, and hope that our team gets some of that and WE CAN WIN

    if bloody stoke can beat arsenal
    and hull can come from behind and get two goal back at old traffod
    hell anythingcan be done

    stoke and hull should be our inspirations….
    i know everyone would be saying we have sunk so low that we have to look to team likes stoke

    but they have risen a level higher

    comeon we need another win and we can get it

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #25

    sorry for being negative

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  • Alex

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Toon Rock you say villa will be the toughest most challenging team we have faced this season so far , well what about first day of the season Manchester United at Old Trafford . We got a draw remember , with the same players we have now . After the WBA win the players spirits and confidence will be on the up . If we put the performance of the first half in that game into 90 minutes against Villa we will win

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  • villa fan

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #27

    lol milner will haunt you and you know it,he’s just been on setanta bad mouthing newcastle united and fans its very funny

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #28

    it should also be said that if the crowd can be as good as we were against city the players may well just perform to thier potential

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  • BIGPEAOVTHEWEAB

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #29

    its a big ask at the moment the way villa is playing but i hope we beat them we hav acctuially got a decent record at home against the villa but not that it counts for anything

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  • TheToonRock

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #30

    Ed, I wish I could be at the Fulham match along with you and all of our fellow magpies, but I unfortunately cant be there, yet I can guarantee you my friend, my voice will! Keep your fingers crossed that come Monday, our dinner plate is tastier and more satisfying than ever, a victory against Villa…

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  • Jacob

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #31

    Its actually a -7 goal difference not -12 😉

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  • TheToonRock

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #32

    I hear you Alex, and perhaps pal, I never went into the reason why I feel that Aston Villa is going to be our toughest test thus far. Yes, our fixture on the opening day of the season at Utd was even more to ask of our players, and they passed with flying colours, yet come Monday night, we are faced with 2 prospects. A loss would bring upon another serious blow and dent to our players confidence and mental approach which could make it very difficult to find that positive tune again. Yet, a victory, would give us the opportunity to win 2 matches in a row, for the 1st time this season, which inevitably will become the cornerstone of our climb up the table and generate a stronger air of confidence than ever before this season. It might be 90 minutes, but I honestly believe that it will definitely dictate the direction that we are going in this season. We’ll see…

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  • Big Dave

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #33

    TheToonRock when i think of the toon your talking about I get tingles and goosebumps mate. that is why i feel a bit for the younger bloggers on here they never witnessed the toon at its best mate

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  • toonoholic

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #34

    toonrock good stuff mate. glad to see sensible fans still in this forum.

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  • Cyprus-Toon

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #35

    Petrov isn’t playing, he’s injured!!!

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  • toonoholic

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #36

    neeraj

    stoke and hull should be our inspirations….
    i know everyone would be saying we have sunk so low that we have to look to team likes stoke

    we are NEWCASTLE UNITED. WE dont need inspiration from other teams!
    that is what toon rock means about thinking positive. we might be at the zenith with respect to our achievements in the past 3 years, but remember

    form is temporary, CLASS IS PERMANENT

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  • neeraj

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #37

    toonoholic
    inspiration doesn’t mean just follow what these teams are doing…..

    get out there unfazed by the opponents and play well
    thats what these team did….
    and it has been missing in nufc right now……

    and we have to find it

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  • ronaldeano

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #38

    The Spurs pigs have leveled 🙁

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  • TheToonRock

    Nov 1, 2008 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #39

    I hear you Dave, I hear you. There is no doubt that Saint James Park was always considered an experience not a destination for any visiting fan! My biggest hope is that one day, hopefully sooner rather than later, I will be-able to say was, is and always will be a destination. As much as we laugh at the word of us being a key factor that we as fans, the reality is we are! The magical ingredient of Saint James will always be the fans. The more we persevere, the more likely we are to reap the fruits of victory regularly. And as you would know pal, regular victories sooner or late lead to that precious piece of silverware that every single Geordie dreams of.

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  • ed_speed

    Nov 1, 2008 at 7:00 PM

    Comment #40

    anyone at fulham last year?
    electric atmosphere. i hope its the same here, regardless of the result.

    regards,
    ed

    p.s ‘mon the lads

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