Kinnear Hints Keegan Exit Not What People Think

Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear has hinted today that Kevin Keegan’s status with Newcastle fans may be undermined, once the truth surrounding his resignation finally comes out.

Kevin Keegan – resigned in early September

We don’t have any real facts on what went on during the afternoon of Monday, 1st September, and we thought that players Xisco and Gonzalez had been brought in behind Kevin’s back – but that may not be the case, as hinted by Joe today in The People.

The Newcastle club is still in some disarray and we could be bottom of the league today if Bolton get at least a draw in today’s home game against Manchester City.

Joe has obviously been told at least the Ashley side of the story on the Keegan exit and said today:

“I could tell you lots of things about that. You will have to wait and see.” “You might be pleasantly surprised.” “You are making an assumption — like most of the journalists up here — and 75 per cent of you are wrong.”

“Wait until you see the statements, that is all I am saying. All will be revealed.” “Maybe Mike Ashley will be accepted. Maybe he will come back and won’t sell the place. Maybe he will invest in the club. Who knows?”

“It only needs the team to go on a small run and people will easily forget. I am saying forget, but I don’t know what the man has done.” “It is difficult. He has put £240million into the club and he can’t come and watch the team.”

“But he could make his peace with the fans. It isn’t all of them. He hasn’t been given a fair crack of the whip by the Press.” “He is a down to earth fellah who loves his football. His kids love it. I don’t know what mistakes he has made because I haven’t been here to look at them.”

We think that maybe Joe is trying to make the case that Ashley stays becasue he will most liekly continue as manager, which would obviously delight him, to say the least.

But Ashley is still trying to sell the club and according to yesterday’s reports Keith Harris is still negotiasting but there has been little progress these last two weeks.

Of course Kevin Keegan has sued the Newcastle club, so now’s not the time for people to be making any statements about what happened, but this is the first we’ve heard that the blow-up with keegan and the Board may be different than has been widely reported.

Ashley may be struggling a little to find a buyer to pay the £280M he wants for the club, and sources close to investment banker Keith Harris, who is trying to broker the sale, have said there were no developments last week. The first thing Mike should do is to reduce the price to £250M, which will still make him a little profit, and there will be more chance the club can be sold.

But that doesn’t say the sale will not go forward, and that’s what we’ll hope for. However, if Mike can’t sell the club our fans will need to look at what’s best for the club this season.  We have to think that even more upheaval against Mike Ashley, would be very damaging to us, and to our Premier League status this season. It would have to have a negative impact on the players.

We must put the club first, and support whoever the manager is, and it’s Joe right now so the next thing we can do is support the lads tomorrow night against Aston Villa. No doubt that will be a tough game.

But fortune favors the brave, as we’ve seen this week with Spurs and Harry Redknapp, and Hull City have been doing it all season, so we trust the lads will have lots of fighting spirit on MOnday night and come out like a steam train against Villa and even get all 3 points.

Comments welcome.

91 comments so far

  • lee

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #1

    lets stay out of the politics and focus on the players…

  • p

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #2

    plot thickens…

  • Gordon

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #3

    Difficult to know what to make of this.

    Kinnear will only have Ashley’s version on what went on on Sep 1st and not Keegan’s.

    Maybe he believes Ashley’s version or maybe it’s all just nonsense.

    Whatever went on is rather irrelevant anyway. It’s over. Keegan’s not coming back (IMHO) and we can only look forwards.

    Maybe Ashley can’t sell the club. Maybe he’ll stay. Or maybe he’s got a buyer lined up to be announced after the Chelsea game.

    All we can concentrate on in the interim is what happens on the pitch.

    I think we’ll struggle to get anything out of Villa – they’re a lot better than us. We might get a point if we’re lucky.

    We might also get a point away to Fulham and I’d expect us to take 3 at home to Wigan.

    My guess is we’ll get 3-5 points out of the next 9.

  • bill

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Ashley not sell! I can feel some demonstrations coming on. If he hasn’t sold the club by Christmas we will be relegated. The fans and players are behind the club at the moment because of an impending sale, if it fails to go through soon I can see more demonstrations and a dip in form (if that’s possible) in the play on the field. On top of that who in their right mind is going to stay at a club in turmoil or come in to replace those leaving?
    I’m sorry to be so negative but I cannot see any other way out of this mess. Ashley must sell soon even if he takes a hit, if he really has the club at heart and not a nice little profit.

  • bri

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #5

    i think MA is staying put and almost day by day little stories are coming up that are trying to get us the fans onside,JFK saying he may want to stay,the keegan walkout not the way people think it was and JFK wanting a permenant deal. Ithink MA has been waiting for things to die down and dont be surprised if hes at fulham next week.

  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #6

    We’re Doomed

  • Chester Geordie

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #7

    I think as far as the KK saga is concearned its over and done with, i dont see the point of bringing it back up unless its part of the fat mans plans to keep the club.We need to focus on the now,get behind the lads and gets some points on the board.Ashley needs either to sell or if he cant he needs to get rid of the dwarf and our usless chairman.Bring back Mort and invest in the squad in Jan .Whatever comes out now will only be Ashleys version of the events and who will trust that version to be the right one.Dont get me wrong KK is nt blameless in all this,walking away yet again has put us in the shit and i for one dont care if the guy does nt come back,all i want is some stability and a squad of players with some pride and fight,just look at Stoke and Hull thats what can be done with a bit of scrapping and guts

  • bennufc

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #8

    imho ma isnt all as bad as wat we and th press make out i mean he has pumped over 200m into th club if he wer to just get rid ov wise and at least offer keegan his job back then all would b forgiven

  • james

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #9

    I Still Have Not Given Up Hope Of Ashley Selling I Can Rememer Chelsea Take over It Never Made The Headlines Before It Actually Happened Keith Harris Doesnt Normally Work In The Public Spotlight The Man City Deal Was The Same As The Arabs Will Not Get Into A Bidding War I Wouldnt Be Surprised If Due Dilligence Was Already Being Undertaken We Live In Hope!

  • vic

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #10

    ashley is not going sell.

    If MA would want to sell – all his pals (wise,lambias) go somewhere else by now.

    They just draging out the time and con people

    22 November in MA statement he will inform that he changed his mind.

    Cockney mafia out of toon to spurs where they suppose to be

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #11

    Asked Ashley for a couple of quid, he said no comment. So a told him you shudna sacked kev you tossa. He said ‘no comment’. Anyway ma lent us a couple of quid, old bat.

  • andrew

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #12

    what would be so wrong with mike ashley staying on? the guy has put so much money into the club, wiped our debts and actually attempted to bring the deep set problems to the forefront and deal with them. the structure may not include some of the most worthy employees like Mr Wise, but at least we have a long-term structure in place.

    as for keegan, let him go. he doesn’t have the bottle and we can see that. he’s not as bothered as he professes to be about the fans and the sooner we forget about him “coming back” the better. why should we have him back?

    let’s remember, if no one’s bigger than the club (i.e Mike Ashley – even though it’s HIS club) then let’s adopt the same position on KK and move on.

  • UTD111

    Nov 2, 2008 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #13

    This proves to me what I’ve begun to think…..we are being conned. Kinnear is no more than an Ashley PR man, Ashley knows he can’t sell the club at a profit in the current financial climate – so we’re being hit with a propaganda campaign in the hope that over time we will forgive and forget.
    Personally I could forgive Ashley but not the poison dwarf or “slap a grape” Llambias

  • parisianrob

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #14

    i really feel for your club and have great respect for the toon army always there no matter what
    After monday i wish you will improve to stay up as newcastle is a great place to visit for a game
    but villa to win a closely fought game on monday


  • SuperShearer

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #15

    Dear Mr. Ashley

    I, not representing the whole of Newcastle supporters, would like to ask what you current intentions towards the club are?

    If you still intend to sell do you not see that you may be asking too much in the current financial climate? Your price is too high for a club sitting in a relegation spot at the foot of the Premiership. Put into perspective that Portsmouth, who are in a considerably better position than us, both player wise and league wise, are supposedly for sale at around 40-100 million.

    If your intentions are to retain the club, which it is of course your prerogative to do so as the owner, you need to start looking at the bigger picture. We are a club in a perilous situation, and one of hiatus until you specify your intentions. If you choose to retain the club you need to appoint a full time manager, I for one do not believe that Mr. Kinnear is the right man for the job for the same reasons that Mr. Allardyce wasn’t. You also need to look to invest in the January transfer window and look to retain the services of Michael Owen.

    As the owner of this fine club the final decision is yours. Many owners have been in similar situations and turned the fans opinions around. The only way to do this is to communicate with us, and inform us as to what the intentions are. Of course at the time of writing this all of this could be irrelevant as you may have already sold the club. If so I thank you for your time and patients.

    Kind regards a loyal, and worried, Newcastle Supporter.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #16

    thats all it is another bungled attempt by the cockney mafia or as i like to call them the fairy godfathers to pave a way back for the fat man.
    i can,t believe there are people on here who want this fat no mark to stay at the club.
    mike ashley has been bad for newcastle from day one,he is a national embarrassment.
    why would you want this thieving skinflint anywhere near our club.
    if ashley stays we are going down i,m afraid.

  • geordie genius

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #17


  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #18

    oi support the ammers, but you geordie boys are the dogs bollocks. Even ma and that old trout Edna like you.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #19

    there has been no stability at the club since ashley has been involved,keegangate was just the last straw.
    not many fans have been behind ashley from the start,so for people to blame keegan are wrong.
    the club has been in turmoil right from the start of ashley,s tenure.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #20

    oi nick you,re a right wrong’un you cant.


    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #21

    Agree with UTD111. this whole thing is a con. making keegan look like he was to blame for what went on. MA thinks that he has played a masterstroke by using JK to make people forget about what happened, JK is favouring Mike ashley too much for my liking.


    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #22

    it will be a proper hard game on mon nite like realy tuff villa are in form ov there lifes at the min

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #23

    all mike ashley has ever brought to newcastle=
    and other various nefarious activities.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #24

    i dread to think what it might be like if we get beat.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #25

    the thing is ashley always comes across as a right mug to me.
    he tries one transparent scheme after another to try and curry favour.
    i honestly think he reckons we all daft,you can see straight through this crap.
    it,s like east end barrow boy flannel,even though mike isn,t a cockney.
    mike ashley has zero people skills,i thought he was a businessman he should be able to come up with better bulls##t than this.

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #26

    Skin d wot you mean mate wrong un, ask me ma she knows the troof. Everyones got the wrong sp on me, Clyde Tavernier stabbed Eddie Royal.

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #27

    ere’ cotton you tryin’ to mug me off ,jog on!!!

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #28

    hark at the geezer givin’ it all the lemon.

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #29

    Oi skin d you sund like tha big oaf Grant Mitchell ,is it u? am comin back to the square. Yeah an that mike ash will get it, spurs fan the tosspot.

  • P****d-off

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #30

    JFK really stating to boil my p**s. The prick said he wouldn’t be talking to the press anymore he’s never shut up since. Mike this Mike that Mike swims like a fish. What a brown nose but what can ya expect from a bloke that was finished who gets a job from his poison dwarf mate. More propaganda bull sh*t can’t believe some people fallin for it. The cockney pricks have took the p**s since they took over and it’s time they all fu***d off

  • skin d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #31

    ere cotton pete beale sez you,ve bin asslin’ kaff.

  • micky d

    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #32

    Kinnear = Ashleys puppet …

  • Silence of the Llambias

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #33

    Three parties are in for the club. All are waiting in the belief that Ashley is desperate to sell. Ashley sends messages through his PR man that he is in a position to stay on. PR man is happy to embellish,discrediting and also weakening his competitors position for the Managers job.
    JK has almost a full strength squad for Monday.
    Lets see what he does with it.

  • bill

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #34

    If Joe Kinnear wants to remain as popular as he is at present, (I’m not sure why he is as we have only won one game since his arrival) he had better keep his gob shut about KK, and he had better pray for a win against Villa.
    If we end up bottom of the league this week and with him mouthing off about KK he will find himself as public enemy N0 2, one behind Mike Ashley.
    I think that any more of these leaks about MA staying and the new supporters club will be ramping up demonstrations. MA may need a reality check – he is not welcome, he never will be welcome, the sooner he sells the better.

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #35

    Kaff got dun by wilmot brown mate not me, down at the dagmar. pete beale locked me in ma’s house the turd.

  • Big Dave

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #36

    I think, we should believe Kinnear, not KK. KK left the team in a big shit once, he did it again. And he did it with England, Man. City and Fulham, too.

  • Chester Geordie

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #37

    JK isnt the man to take us where we need to be anymore than the fat man is.Please Ashley just sell up and sod off youve been full of empty promises from day one.We need a fresh start,new owners ,new manager and players who want to play for our club.KK was and is a legend but he lacks the tactical know how to bring that much needed silverware to our club.I get this nasty feeling the fat man is playing games and isnt going to go and JK needs to stop talking about things which are ntto do with coaching and start getting the onfield side of things right,his record so far is shite

  • UTD111

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #38

    Can’t believe any true United fan would take the word of any of this cockney lot against the word of Sir Kevin.
    We have a history with Sir Kevin telling the truth – and not being afraid to explain himself head on to fans eg on the steps of SJP after the sale of Andy Cole.
    We have no history with the cockney mafia, people like Wise never even bothered to show up at the ground, and all of them are too arrogant to talk directly to the fans – we are just “customers” who are expected to buy from their barrows.
    Nah!! I’m sticking with Kev’s version.

  • Chester Geordie

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #39

    I agree Big Dave that KK walking away was wrong,he should have came out and told the fans what was going on,how the dwarf was bringing in players he didnt want.Walking out on us yet again just made things worse for us,i know he was in a difficult postion but why walk away

  • billybuck

    Nov 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #40

    Bottom line is that two wrongs don’t make anyone right. KK bears as much responsibility as MA for the current position. One he should have known what would happen if he threatened to walk away (and I suspect he did) and two if he was going he should have gone immediately and not kept false flags of hopes flying for his reinstatement. MA should have realised that Dennis Wise would be the lightning rod for all the discontent and sent him on his way as well. He didnt and at best was overly loyal to his mates and at wordt he decided that as he owned the club it was up to him who hired and fired. I suspect that MA has learned some painful lessons over the last few months but will he act on them. He will realise that the price and therefore his potential return will nose dive if he presides over the Toon going into the Championship. Its about time some of the emotion was put aside and we look at the hrash realities of the situation – we are in a relegation dogfight – we are not “too good” to go down and we have a squad that is short of both numbers and real quality. Results on the pitch is what matters and no matter what people say about JK (PR man etc) the simple fact is that since he arrived the players have shown a damn sight more committment and endeavour that they did even under KK. We support the toon not KK or MA or JK – lets get on and do that never mind who the owner is. The fair minded of us Geordies need to send the message to MA that despite the mistakes he as the owner and figurehead is still required at SJP even if he does not sell as broadcast. His place is in the directors box and the sooner he gets back in there the sooner our club and its fans will have a sense of momentum again.


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