Martins – Players Want Kinnear To Stay

There’s no doubt at all that Joe Kinnear is made in the mold of Kevin Keegan as a football manager, and his players just love him.

Kinnear – I wanted 5 tonight but 2 is OK

Oba Martins told Setanta Sports immediately following the Villa game, that he wants to see interim manager Joe Kinnear extend his stay at Newcastle United, in the hot seat.

Martins hit both goals for Newcastle in a hard earned win against a good looking Aston Villa side 2-0, at St James’ Park on Monday night.

Martins told Setanta Sports:

“I think it’s very important for a striker to score goals and I’m very happy today that I scored two goals,”

“I have to thank my team-mates as well because they really tried. We’re happy today.”

Martins looked as though he had been told to shoot whenever he got a good sight of goal, and his first goal was just that, as he drilled a tremendous left foot shot that beat Friedel from 20 yards, after an hour into the game.

But Joe may leave the club as soon as 22nd November, after the Chelsea game away, when he says Mike Ashley may be making an announcement about the club. We have no idea if that’s true, but Oba wants Kinnear to stay, as he continued:

“The gaffer has been a success,” “He’s doing all his best for us just to try to push us in training.” “He told us in training that if we put more effort in it will help in the games as well.”

“He helped us a lot today. I think he’s doing his best.” “I think – all the players – we don’t have any problem with Kinnear because he’s doing his best and I hope he stays.”

It’s interesting and even amusing that Joe Kinnear was unable to speak after the game due to a sore throat, but his assistant Chris Hughton praised the manager for the considerable impact he has made at the club.

Hughton said:

“I think that the results speak for themselves and if I look at the performance today it was arguably our best performance since Manchester United on the first game of the season,”

“It was a massive win. I think certainly with the way results went over the weekend, it wasn’t a particularly good weekend for us with all the teams winning, so it was important that we won today.”

Hughton had some difficulty when he was in charge of the team, just after the club self-imploded, but he has worked well with Joe since he arrived, and has received glowing praise from the Irishman.

We have to remember that Keegan, McDermott and Adam Sadler all the left the club in early September, and Kinnear is the only one who has come in since then, so the coaching staff has also been very stretched.

Hopefully this game will change Newcastle’s season, and we can now concentrate on climbing that league table.

We also hope to hear from Joe sometime tomorrow, on the great win, once his throat clears up – from his shouting tonight.   😀

41 comments so far

  • 35yrs of Hurt

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:34 PM

    Comment #1

    Best result of the season so far.
    Barton MOM.

  • adam

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #2

    good work oba!

  • Little Willie

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #3

    He was put on the spot and was hardly going to say no, I wouldn’t read too much into it.

  • reillers

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #4

    I’d be more then a wee bit annoyed if Joe was thrown out into the cold at the end of this and Keegan was brought back it.

  • AndyNUFC

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #5

    If Kinnear gets a win at both Fulham and Wigan and atleast the performance is there (let alone even thinking about a draw) at Chelsea then I really can’t see anyone getting rid of him. He’ll be a fan favourite by then, he’s already rubbing off on the players, and seems to be a half decent manager to go with it.

  • clever-toon-lad

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #6

    still would have prefered guthrie playin tonight ahead of butt

  • Timmers

    Nov 3, 2008 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #7

    Me grandad always wanted JK as Newcastle manager albeit 12 or so yrs ago-but he said he could read the game/players and he was impressed with what he did at Wimbledon with no money. I’d hope JK is allowed or able to bring ina couple more coaches, love to see Beardo in the mix. Ideal world Anil Ambani is in due dilligence and will give JK funds. 5players in (i wish) realistic world-Ashley is taking the club off the market until summer and will release minimal funds for JK in Jan-3players will come in.

  • Christoon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #8

    Hey, on the barton side of things, what do people think of his lil nose flick, his tackles and hustling was great. By doing little things in my opinion like the nose flick it makes him look like he doesn’t care about the chances he’s been given, none of it bothers him, coming across as slightly arrogant where as he should just keep his head down and get on with it after a foul etc. this excludes kissing the badge, that should be fine. There nothing wrong with being proud of the shirt u wear. But yeh he needs to avoid those lil things if he wants the respect of the rest of the premiership. though i’m pretty sure it wound up abongahor (cant be arsed to spell check :)) enough to miss his sitter a few minutes later. go maggsssssssss!!

  • ToonTinka

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #9

    Really enjoyed that tonight..

    Over the moon with the performance, everyone did really well.

    It’s times like this when I think about previous games. If only we could of beat Hull at home, held on for the win against Man City and beat the Makums we would be doing great at the min!

    More of the same plz lads.

    Haway the Toon!

  • micepie

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #10

    I think it’s far too premature to be talking about a long JK stay but we could offer him an extended contract to the last day of the year, and if the club is sold before then a stipulation is that the new owners have to honour that contract? I personally hope that JK is given some sort of role in a new set up, maybe youth team coach.

  • NotAGhostToon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #11


  • 51times

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #12

    Christoon – We need to develope a siege mentality up here, I agree that Barton needs to stop being stupid like that, but in the end he’s a Newcastle player and we should rally to his defence.

  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #13

    Dont agree about Barton doin things like that if he will get away with it.

    Shows he is a gressive and has character, both things I like in a footballer.

  • Christoon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #14

    51 times- Completely understood. I cant fault the way he’s played since returning. He knows he’s gonna get critisized for every lil thing but still gets in for those crunching tackles. I for one couldnt wait for his prison time and ban to finish as i remember how much of a superb player he is. A strong player like barton in the center changes everything, Apart from guthrie our mid field has been very weak the last few years. a weak central mid field pairing gives our defense twice as much work to do, hense our terrible defense the last few seasons. At least jonas is just as could and a CB when he gets back 🙂

  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #15

    Sorry i meant to say ‘Dont agree; if barton can get away with things like that…’

  • SouthernGeordie

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #16

    Great performances by the lads there, JK is definately having an effect on the players, however is this the guy to take us to the next level? Personally i think as a short term solution he is doing a fantastic job but our problem has always been the longterm factor and i dont see him being able to take the club forward. We made the same calls about Roeder when he came in and after a few good results he was meant to be our saviour! (Personally i always thought shearer was pulling the reigns in that setup) and look where he took us. We need to be realistic and not get carried away. The club is still in turmoil and things in the boardroom arent any clearer. When we have a clearer future about where we are going as a club then we can start dictating who we should have in charge.

  • Baaldy

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #17

    Managers are judged on 1 thing only….. Results.

    2-2 v man Citeh and the blue car thieves, 2-1 v the baggies and 2-0 v a very good Villa side is a decent set for JFK.

    Remember this team was bottom before the game and I feared for us tonight. Absoloutely delighted with the win and the last 35 mins.

    We were rightly nervous and edgy before that because of our situation. It is hard to play footy under pressure but a win or 2 more and we will be OK.

    Delighted with Joey and the Back 5 (inc Shaymus). Jonas Duff Butt and Oba were great. I even refuse to be negative about Shola tonight and that is a first! Well done JFK. Keep going.

    Forever Black n White

  • 51times

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #18

    Tom_Toon – A lot of people don’t like Barton as it is, if he’s raising his hands to a player and going into tackles studs up, he’s going to get into serious trouble.

  • AndyNUFC

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #19

    The ref was terrible tonight, atleast 3 of our players booked tonight didn’t deserve it. Barton should maybe watch himself with that Agbonlahor thing, not because I think it should have been punished, but just because you know how refs are these days.

  • AndyNUFC

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #20

    Bugger my, I don’t get how players are supposed to go into tackles without studs showing some times? What about sliding tackles, will they just be abolished if you can’t show studs?

  • 51times

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #21

    Andy – I don’t make the rules *shrugs*

  • SuperShearer

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #22

    I feel like I’m a bit alone here. Yes it was a great, fantastic, and indeed unexpected result….but we still looked shaky at times. I think Villa were easily the better side in the first half, but we dominated them in the second. There is till such a long way to go and I still believe that this club will only survive and begin to climb once we have a forward thinking chairman who is willing to support his manager. There is a reason why we have been poor for so long and that is due to poor organization from the top down. Don’t let a great game change anything, Ashley needs to go and we need a new owner NOW. We are still in a dog fight at the bottom. Having said all that the players should be proud of themselves for out muscling Villa.

  • AndyNUFC

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #23

    Suppose not mate but like I said the ref was terrible, I think it’s about time, maybe at the end of the season, that a huge analysis of the refereeing aspect of the game is looked at. Goal line technology and clear, precise definitions of what is and isn’t a booking/foul. That penalty from that young ref for the shirt pulling against Blackburn at the weekend was spot on, but Barton was booked tonight but it’s not like he lunged in or was high in the challenge.

  • Waddle's mullet

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Just got in from game.

    Once again pretty pished.

    Still nthe odd village idiot calling the odd player tonight on here.

    Guthrie in front of butt.


    P Lease!!

  • JP of The Rock

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #25

    Great result tonight!! 😀 😀 I can’t remember the last time Newcastle United made me so happy 😀 😀 !!!!!!! The whole team played really well, great fighting spirit from all the lads.

  • 51times

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #26

    Waddle’s mullet – One win and suddenly some of you think we’re going to win the bloody league. Yes we got 3 points, yes it was a good all around performance, but if you think it was perfect you need to start watching more football.

  • AndyNUFC

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #27

    Waddle’s Mullet I thought Butt had a fine game, why Guthrie? He’s been non existent last few games, then again, so has Oba.

  • micknufc

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #28

    wey 51 i watch loads of football,and know fine well we are still in a mess,been there tonight and anybody feeling elated..pissseed.. or what ever needs cutting slack..that was a result!! tonight no mistake..lets enjoy it eh

  • 51times

    Nov 4, 2008 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #29

    I am enjoying it.

  • ObaFan2

    Nov 4, 2008 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #30

    SuperShearer, you aint alone.

  • Nickies Butt 1000

    Nov 4, 2008 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #31

    Give Joe the job NOOOOWWWWWW plz:)


    Nov 4, 2008 at 3:39 AM

    Comment #32

    Getting back to the thread, yeah seems like Joe`s doing pretty good so far.
    The team played well to a man to-night, no passengers, midfield tracking back, certainly dominated the second half.
    Still we need bodies, its a long season and we are no where near comfortable.
    Just hope the sale goes through soon in order to stabilize the club before it`s too late.
    Dont want to sound complacent, the team were
    great and we should be exstatic with the three points but does`nt mean we are safe.

  • ginkoh

    Nov 4, 2008 at 3:48 AM

    Comment #33

    I think it’s very harsh for Barton if he got ban because the nose flick. If another player did that i don’t think it’ll be the case.

  • Tripp

    Nov 4, 2008 at 5:20 AM

    Comment #34

    What’s funny to me is all this fuss about Barton and look at the shit that Van Persie pulled against Stoke… and it’s not the first time RVP has done something incredibly stupid/dangerous. For all the talk about Barton tonight on Football Matters, RVP got a very brief mention. Yes, he was thrown out, but he still committed something far worse than Barton’s little gesture. Granted, Joey needs to pull his head out. What he did was really stupid because of his history, but c’mon. There’s all sorts of egregious shite happening each week and so far, wor Joey hasn’t been involved in any of it.

  • Waddle's mullet

    Nov 4, 2008 at 7:35 AM

    Comment #35


    If you read the post of NOT SO CLEVER TOON LAD 6

    He is saying to put guthrie in not me.

    I was being sarcastic.

    We should be gretaful for the 3 points.

  • wayne

    Nov 4, 2008 at 7:42 AM

    Comment #36

    jonas and collicini have only played in premier league since august and i have to say if they get better what two great buys!

  • LP_6

    Nov 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #37

    We were excellent last night the whole team through and on the barton matter, agbonlahor stuck his bottom lip out as if to say barton was sulking and all barton done was try and flick it! just a bit banta really but with the situation he’s in the press will jump on him any opportunity! there was nothing in it. Thoroughly deserved win. Lets see more of the same at Fulham on sunday!!

    JFK’s Black and White Army!!!!!


    Nov 4, 2008 at 8:03 AM

    Comment #38

    Just a thought, ED: What about Shearer taking on a role as a “striker” co-trainer? Wouldn’t that be fantastic!

  • lesh

    Nov 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #39

    C’mon guys, let’s not get carried away. Great result, great 2nd half performance and no doubt Joe’s worked wonders.

    But, let’s not forget Glenn Roeder’s sterling work in puling the lads away from relegation, then the following season……… remember what happened.

    An interim’s not guaranteed to be a good permanent and sure, keep Joe around if he’s happy to stay, but we must get the new manager right next time.

    Happy days……

  • JJ

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #40

    I agree, Joes got the lads confidence up and with players like Jonas, Colo and Oba on form we are gona beat a few teams.
    JFK has done well, but will never be the top manager to tak eus into Europe again.

    1 He plays an old style of long ball football and doesnt keep it on the deck enough…
    2 His substitutions are normally left far too late after players are weary.

    I do think he’d make a good assistant manager if he worked under someone like Houlier or Fatih because he gets his players to fight for the team.

    So lets wait and see what happens…


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