Joe Has Given Someone A Difficult Decision To Make


Chris Hughton talked again to the Newcastle Journal this morning, and we have no new news on whether interim manager Joe Kinnear is able to talk yet, after last night’s heroics against Aston Villa.

Chris Hughton – difficult decision to be made on Joe

Chris said today:

“After the way the weekend went it was essential that we got something – both in terms of building confidence and moving to the place where we want to be,” “But we’ve still got a fair way to go before we can say we’ve turned a corner and that we’re in the position we want to be in.”

“Joe has given someone a very difficult decision to make. All that he can is to try and get the best results possible. At the moment, they’re okay and that’s all he can do.”

That last comment is interesting because we have no idea what will happen to Joe, and if new owners take over later this month, his management time at Newcastle could well be over.

If that’s the case, and he leaves the club, after doing so well, we hope he gets some decent compensation and not the measly £60K/month he’s said to be on in some media reports. If Joe had let the club slide Ashley wouldn’t even get a buyer, so in a way Joe’s working against his own burning ambition to manage the Tyneside club long term.

If Ashley doesn’t sell then that has it’s own unique problems, but Joe will in all likelihood continue as manager of the club, and do something worthwhile in January to improve the squad.

But since Chris Mort left the club in the summer,  we have had no idea what is going on, and the last communication from the board was weeks and weeks ago. That’s when Ashley said he would sell the club, on September 14th, and they also introduced Kinnear on September 26th of course – but apart from that – nothing.

Some way to treat your customers – and little wonder the fans are fuming.

Back to football and Newcastle look a much more threatening side now with the return of Martins, Barton, Jonás Gutiérrez – and even Michael Owen soon. The first three have all played excellently in our last two victories in the last 6 days.

And Joe Kinnear will have been happy that Newcastle killed off the game before he introduced a relaxed and obviously happy Michael Owen to the game, in injury time, to get a little runaround.

That was very different to last Tuesday’s game against WBA, when we hung on until the final whistle, but it was also something Joe had asked for before the game – “don’t do that to me again” we think were his exact words, following the win against West Brom.

Chris continued:

“The most important thing for us at the moment is that we have so many options. Shola is playing well and we have two players who can cause trouble for opposition players.”

“I think Obafemi Martins is a big player for us and we certainly did miss him when he wasn’t there. The quality that he has is huge – he is able to stretch players with his pace and he can score goals.”

“The fact that we were able to bring Michael back gradually and just give him a chance to stretch his legs is testament to the lads who were on the pitch.”

An excellent win and something we have to build on in our next two games, because there’s a good chance, if we play well, that we can get another 6 points out of those two games, which will take us hurtling up the league.

But we showed we are getting into that winning habit, because at half time it was anybody’s game in a very closely contested first 45 minutes, and Aston Villa are obviously a very talented side, let’s make no mistake about that.

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63 comments so far

  • UTD111

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #1

    Well done! the team, the management team, the fans :o)

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  • Spitfire

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #2

    First game I have really enjoyed for years. I thought we were magnificent. Spidey and Duff were outstanding, Shola has been turned into the new Emile Heskey, Barton is reborn, Colo is turning out to be be brill!

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  • Toon Graeme

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #3

    Cant wait until the wigan match!

    Toon Toon Black & White Army!!!!!

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  • Irish John

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #4

    Brillant win…onwards and upwards now…If we could get 3 points agains fulham on the weekend we should move into the top half…You would’nt off thought that 3 weeks ago…Big pat on the back for everyone involved with the club

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  • Viper

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #5

    Didn’t unfortunately see the game, but most of second half on radio! Brought smiles:-)
    Seen goals now as well, great stuff! Same against Fulham lads!

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  • Whumpie

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #6

    Right now I couldn’t give a fish’s tit what’s going on with club sales, politics or even whether fish have tits. Life is good.

    JFK, Hughton and the rest of the team have shown that when we have a fit team we can be a threat to anybody, and that we can do that by playing flowing, exciting football. So many fantastic performances it’s impossible to pick one out.

    It’s been a long time since I’ve been itching to talk footie with people in the office. Loving this.

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  • listie

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #7

    Excellent result, even better for me living in the midlands now 🙂
    What has pissed me off is that sky are glossing over the win and concentrating on Barton, and that fat twat on SSN, needs to piss right off.

    If we play like that in the next 2 games, we could do well.

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  • chrissyboy

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #8

    get in newcastle utd,best game ive seen in ages,exept the first 25 mins,solid fantastic performance and every 1 gave a hundred percent,well done and more of the same please

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  • steve

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #9

    Really happy with last nights performance, we battled, played with skill and commitment and the whole team played really well, butt obviously enjoys playing alongside Barton – even Taylor played well.
    It was great to see the team spirit when we scored the players really seem to enjoy playing and celebrating together, martins falling on his ar5e during the somersault was funny as was Shola lifting him up and almost ripping off his goolies – Guiterez celebration after the second goal was class.

    More of the same at Fulham please

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  • Mark-o

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #10

    I say let the media focus on Barton,

    1- it’ll be test of his character
    2-it should take the focus off a team and mangement thats under enough preassure as it is.

    If both Barton and the club come up smelling of roses at the end of the season then we can flip a big F-you to the pundits and so called fans who have written us and joey off!!!

    Tremendous performance by the lads last night, starting to gel abit now. I’m still a little concerned about Steven Taylors attitude, he’s trying to be a hero and make tackles for the camera. He seems to stand off the man he’s marking so he can turn and get a boot in rather than get tight and get in front of him. But hopefully that will come woth age and playing alongside the experienced Collocini.

    AND WERE ABOVE THE SCUM!!!!!!!

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  • Ian

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #11

    I like the way Chris and Joe realise how important Martins is to us, other managers appear to have missed this point so early in their spells.

    We lean on Martins almost all of his spell here and he keeps on producing the goods, he is one of my all time favourite Newcastle players and fast becoming one of my all time favourite footballers, he has one of, if not the best attitude of any sportsmen I have ever seen, in any sport-brilliant.

    If only we had looked for a fast striker who could pair up well with Martins.

    Not getting carried away though, this was one of our easier matches.

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  • WesToon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #12

    Newcastle Newcastle Newcastle NEW CAS TLE!!!! Haway The Lads 🙂

    Sorry to change the subject lads,but does any1 know if there are any football coaching schools in Newcastle or around the area??

    Im from South Africa & want to set up a football school here in my home land

    PLS PLS help me out lads,cheers!!

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  • TTID

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #13

    ED, ‘a measley 60k a month’??
    Sort your heed oot man and get into the real world.

    2 things on this ridiculous quote!! MEASLEY is a powerful word to use in this context considering MOST of us dont even get past 25K a year for grafting our bollocks off and spending a huge chunk of our hard earned on going to the match.

    Compnsating JOE KINNEAR if he is given the heave ho is F***in ridiculous to say the least!!
    The guy is unproven, he has won us 2 games drawn 2 and lost one, if he loses his next 2 games, do you still condone giving him a payoff??

    The bloke is doing cracking for our team, and making them play well, just as Glenn Roeder did a couple of years ago!! I would never knock JK for the way he has turned things around at St James, but to say he is on a measley wage for an interim manager, and to ask for compen for him is distasteful and somewhat insulting to us lot who have gone along and done our best to lift the team in these Ashley wise destruction times!!!
    This type of reporting and opinion is ridiculous and very knee jerk…….

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  • Spidey

    Nov 4, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #14

    Spitfire , I couldn’t agree more! Colo was so solid, handled Carew all game so well! And Shola was a beast, proving to be the effective target man we have needed for seasons. Barton completely owned the midfield, Barry could do nothing! And the spiderman, he is so effective, blistering pace and brilliant defensive mind too. And if Oba can play like that every week, I don’t see a place for Owen in the side.

    We were great, we simply out played the fifth best side in the league and kept a clean sheet whilst doing it! Perfect night!

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  • UTD111

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #15

    I notice that italian bloke who manages the english team had sent his right-hand man along to look at some Vile players.
    Funnily enough the best english player on view was Joey Barton – take that report back to whats-is-name…..!!

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  • TTID

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Was at the game last night, thought that we outplayed out fought and outclassed a very decent Villa team.

    Thought Joey B and Butt dominated the centre of the park and are looking like a combination to match any of the middle duo in any premier team!! Martins and Jonas trickery could not be handled by the Villa defenders! causing them to resort to kicking everything above grass level.

    Shola had one of his ON nights and Coloccinni seems to be getting even better with every game!
    Beye Solid as was Enrique.

    DUFF was my only downer, I feel the lad needs to get some bottle and stop flinching out of 50-50 challenges, learn to use his right foot a bit better and start having a go at goal!!

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  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #17

    Excellent performance & great result Huoghton is correct in saying that we aren’t out of the woods yet as only 6 points seperate Everton in 6th from Spurs in last place. I think we will be safe as long as we keep the current squad fit & add a couple of good players in January. One BIG thing Joe has done is to get Ameobi playing to somewhere near his potential which noone since Sir Bob has been able to do. Ashley still needs to sell the club but hey who knows maybe Kinnear is the right guy for us in the medium term he is starting to look like he has earned a longer contract to the end of the season at least.

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  • brownrob

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #18

    Well, Imagine we had beaten the Mackems… We would be 7th, they would be bottom!

    I havent seen such a close table in years, 6 points separating 7th and 20th after 11 games!

    Makes you wonder when we are supposed to be having a nightmare season, doesnt it… Just goes to show what the tabloids can create?

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  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #19

    Mark-o Can I ask you a question have you ever played football at a decent level in fact at any level apart from schoolboy. Taylor is already at 22 a top centre back he makes mistakes but for a centreback is still very young. He will be an England international regular

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  • thelongshanks

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #20

    TTID you should be called TIT, Duffer was excellent last night and chased everyball.

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  • samthecat

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #21

    The key is surely the fact we have just about everyone back from injury but until the sale is sorted one way or another we cannot hope to progress as a club in the long term.

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  • walker

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #22

    that fat four eyed c**t steve curry on ssn makes me sick.sidwell and cueller done worse than barton tnd hes calling for the f a to have the guts to do something about barton . get a life you sad pathetic ponce.

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  • lesh

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Whether the club’s sold or not, surely it’d make sense to keep Joe in some capacity – whether interim to end of season in any event and assuming there’s a sale, as a member of the coaching team working with the new manager.

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  • SuperShearer

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #24

    Great result but people getting carried away. As Hughton said there is still a long way to go. I suspect that even if the club is sold the new owners will give Joe a contract till the end of the season if he is till doing well. That way they can sort things out at the club with a sliver of continuity in place. But Ed JK isn’t doing us a favor, he was very much a forgotten man before he came here and now Newcastle and JK together are putting him back on the Manager radar. He’s done well but I still feel there is a long way to go. Of course there are rumors that Wenger is going to get sacked (i don’t believe them for the record) but if he was available would we say no?

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  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #25

    Fantastic result,Smash fulham next.

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  • Ian

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #26

    If we are here now, imagine where we could have been under KK, just to keep a dose of reality.

    What a mistake to make.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #27

    No-one’s gettin’ carried away, this is Newcastle!.
    …It’s just called enjoyin’ the present…We played well, like some of us knew we could, for a change!..
    …Shit!..I can’t believe how they’re reportin’ it on setanta, well yea, i can actually, fu*kin’ typical!..
    …Drop dead poll, you pole!..
    …Poor vile, didums!..They were beaten fair & square!..

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  • Bart

    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #28

    Everyone one was decent, except Enrique who was just average.
    He looked shaky and couldn’t deliver the ball well.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #29

    Enrique defended solidly & that’s what matters!..

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  • LooneyToon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #30

    Enrique grew with confidence as the game went on…Especially the last 20 minutes….Loved the way he brushed Milner off the ball late on….

    Regarding delivery to be fair to the lad he didnt have much to aim at, at times….

    Big well done to the crowd last night…It aint the loudest its ever been buts its certainly the most patient. We backed every 1 of those players on the pitch last night…and that aint happened for a very long time for one reason or another

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  • Spyro

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #31

    Enrique made some great long ball passes, and defended well. Get off of his back.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #32

    Well said looneytoon & spyro!..
    …It was nice to see the defense stayin’ back & defendin’ 1st, for a change & not tryin’ to push up too often…That’s why we have a mid-field & attack!..More of the same Lads!..

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  • LooneyToon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #33

    As far as JK is concerned…Take a look at Glen Roeders performance as caretaker manager…and compare that to when he was appointed full time…

    Dont get me wrong, I like Jk…Just not sure if he would be the man to take us forward…that said, I will back him 110% as whoever comes in will need time (3-4 years) to mould a side into top 6 potential around players like Given, Colo, Barton, Jonas and Martins…

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  • samthecat

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #34

    Enrique problem is he plays a couple of games-gets up to speed then gets injured then has to start all over again. He needs a consistent run in the team.
    Its also clear Joe doesnt think much of Xisco and as for Gonzalez-bet he never plays before going back to Spain-we need another central midfielder in January.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #35

    I reckon JK has a bit of faith in Jose, & hopefully, he’ll get a proper run in the team, that’s what needs to happen…He’s a young lad comin’ to a foreign land, let’s give him a real chance, he can do it!..

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  • LooneyToon

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #36

    Agree SamCat…Every player needs time to get up to speed….

    Shola is a prime example….A few games under his belt and if people are honest, he has performed better and better as each game comes…He was very good last night. Very Very Good

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #37

    Ate looneytoon,
    & time, means more than acouple of minutes…
    …Some are way too quick to write players off…Look at how well Duff has done since he’s come back to ‘full’ fitness…
    …Ho’way!..

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #38

    That was meant to be ‘aye’!.. 😀

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  • Mark-o

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #39

    @ ageordiedoonsouth

    I play Saturdays and Sundays in a very high standard league. I play right back on saturdays and centre half on sundays, i was a school boy at hartlepool united until i snapped my cruciate ligament doing pretty much the same thing taylor does.

    Im not saying he’s rubbish, he’s a great defender who can get in the senior england squad in the next 3-4 years.
    What i am saying is that the one aspect of his game he needs to improve on is the one thats cost him, and ultimatly, the team.
    I think its down to the fact that him, shay and shola are the only lads who have been at the club long enough to know how much it means to the fans when we win, and i think he wants to make it a bit more entertaining.

    Im not the only one who thinks so. The lads who sit around me (same seat for 8 year in the milburn) think the same.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #40

    Well done to Shay for reachin’ 450 last nite & one great save, not as spectacular as some, but still very important…He did kick 29/30 times tho’, ho’way Shay, play it out to the back 4 sometimes, you know it makes sense!..

    …Again, Well done, Geordie Legend!..

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