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Financial Times Reporting Newcastle Investors From USA

4:57 pm, Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 136 Comments

FT.com, the web arm of the Financial Times, is reporting that two US-based investors are the two investors left in the race to buy Newcastle United Football Club.


And FT.com says that both investors are said to already be fully involved in sports management. They say this information comes from people close to the situation.

Seymour Pierce, who are the investment bank selling the club for owner Mike Ashley, confirmed yesterday the original field of seven potential bidders was now down to just two serious bidders.

It also appears that Mike Ashley, although officially requesting around £280M for the club, would take £250M, which would cover his investment in our famous football club.

FT.com is also reporting that Insiders say Mike Ashley may not necessarily take the highest offer available, but agree a sale to those investors who have the better financial credentials, to invest fully in the club.

We’ll believe that when we see it.

This report is coming form Roger Blitz, the FT.com Leisure Industries Correspondent, who has some credibility in this industry. And of course US investors will have been particularly favored by the strength of the US dollar in recent weeks, where the current exchange rate today is $1.62/ Pound Sterling. That’s a strengthening of nearly 20% since it was near $2/Pound Sterling only a few weeks back.

As we’ve said before, we wonder if one of the investors could possibly be Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft with Bill Gates, and now owner of the Portland Trail Blazers and the Seattle Seahawks in the US.

Interest from the USA in the Premier League from US sports franchise owners has seen the Glazer family buy up Manchester United; Tom Hicks and George Gillett take control of Liverpool; Randy Lerner take over Aston Villa, and finally Stan Kroenke acquire a sizable stake in Arsenal and a seat on its board.

The best owners of them all as far as we are concerned, is Randy Lerner, who also owns the Cleveland Browns, the American Football team, and sits quietly in the background, attends most games, and gives manager Martin O’Neil his full support.

It’s interesting that Martin O’Neil has done a terrific job in just a couple of seasons. The Glazer family has also done a more than decent job at the Red Devils.

The worst owners are Hicks and Gillett, who have done very poorly and shown so little respect and even understanding for the famous Liverpool Football club, with their personal selfish infighting for control of the club. They’ve shown no class whatsoever.

So if this report is true, let’s hope we’ll get owners who’ll support the club, and have the very best interests of Newcastle United at heart, while letting football people run the club.

Comments welcome.

Note: Late news this afternoon that Aston Villa star Gabriel Agbonlahor, as we expected, has decided against lodging an official complaint over alleged racial remarks by Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton, during Monday night’s televised match at St James’ Park. A good decision by Gabby.



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136 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Spyro // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM

    Seems like Big Willie wasn’t bull*****ing after all

  • 2 Whumpie // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:13 PM

    The yanks are coming! The yanks are coming!

    I’ve heard that it’s a consortium of former politicians led by a Mr McCain. Apparently they’ve found themselves at a loose end…

  • 3 Tom1664 // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:15 PM

    I just hope to god whoever’s buying us up actually gives us some much needed cash & stability. But then where’d the fun in being a newcastle fan come from?

  • 4 ToonKing // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:25 PM

    Randy Lerner would be cool, he has money and i’m a Cleveland Cavaliers fan :)

    but the one i want is MARK CUBAN !!

  • 5 ToonKing // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM

    i mean Randy IS cool……

  • 6 Michigan Mark (USA) // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:27 PM

    The game is growing over here in the states. A lot of new football fans. Even if a US investors dont buy it, Newcastle should tap into this market. Who ever buys it….spend some money

  • 7 Ben K // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM

    Mark Cuban is a huge douche, you don’t want him in charge of NUFC. He does, however, provide the players with the best technology and accomidations (dvd players in every locker, heated seats on the bench) and has proven willing to spend, but only when it might take his team (Dallas Mavericks) over the top. I would not be surprised if the bid is coming from him.

  • 8 kris // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM

    If this is true they must be seriously cash rich as there is little or no money around in the US at the minute.

  • 9 UTD111 // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM

    Hope they bring some of those nice cheerleader girlies with them!!
    Mind, in Newcastle’s climate they would probably want to wear 5 pairs of tights and 3 coats :o/

  • 10 Rasko a.k.a Hadji // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:33 PM

    We don’t need too much cash to buy our success,i would never ever want us to be Chelsea or Man City….i swear to god i don’t.
    I think that 15 mill in January and 30 mill in the Summer TW is more than enough for a smart manager(whoever that will be) to build a successfull team,not to mention the extra cash by selling some of the dead wood in our team.

  • 11 jettson // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM

    interesting developments then, so much for the far / middle east groups!whomever takes over has to put club first and invest accordingly, lets hope its pushed thru in time for the Jan transfer window!c’mon the lads!!

  • 12 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:37 PM

    Such cynicism Ed…
    ‘Ashley may not sell to the highest bidder, but the one who can invest properly in the club’…
    …’We’ll believe that when we see it’…

    …All the speculative stuff written here ‘may not’
    be true, y’know!?!..

  • 13 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:42 PM

    Just ‘cos a few saps have ballsed up the markets recently, doesn’t mean that there ain’t plenty of cash floatin’ around…It’s a fallacy to think everyone’s broke all of a sudden!..
    …There are plenty of cash rich mofo’s out there!..

  • 14 Ben_BKK // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM

    Also Ed, have you read that Barton could still face FA disciplinary action for racist remarks, even though Agbonlahor doesn’t want to press it further. I swear if it was anyone else, it would’ve been dropped after the game, but because it’s Barton…

  • 15 belfast toon // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/309489430sp?-19428

    last bit about sir bobby was touching this man is true great he should be honoured while he is still here to see itafter all he done for us

  • 16 Ben_BKK // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM

    “Reports on Wednesday morning alleged that Barton made a racist comment during a confrontation involving the pair following a first-half foul.

    However, it is understood that Agbonlahor has told Villa manager Martin O’Neill that he does not want to take the issue to FA disciplinary chiefs.

    But despite the England Under-21 star’s unwillingness to press the issue, the FA are awaiting observations from the player and Aston Villa before deciding if Barton should be charged.

    The club were contacted by the FA this morning and have a week to provide their account of events.

    Once they have done so, the FA’s Football Regulation Department will decide whether further action is required.

    It is understood there is a determination at Soho Square to deal with the issue as quickly as possible, and the FA have clarified that they do not require any formal complaint to be made in order to pursue their enquiries.

    Agbonlahor’s decision not to complain appeared to have put Barton in the clear, but he now faces an anxious wait to discover the outcome of the FA’s investigation.

    Whatever happens, it will have no bearing on the suspended six-match ban imposed on the 26-year-old for his training ground attack on former Manchester City team-mate Ousmane Dabo, which could only be invoked by another violent act either on or off the pitch.”

    It’s absolutely ridiculous…

  • 17 Big Dave // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:53 PM

    Ben_BKK i think if it was anyone else it would have been forgot before the end of the game, actually it probably wouldnt have even been seen. but Joey will have to live with it as they will all be out to get him.

  • 18 Mark-o // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM

    Hold on a min!!!

    Investment groups are only there to make a profit! Who’s to say this group(s) aren’t just gonna strip the club of its assest to manke a quick few quid?

    What we need is an investor with no other motive but to raise the standard of football etc.

    I’m dubious to say the least, this could well be Ashleys revenge.

    Anyway the next lot in should think about this managers job seriously. I personally dont want Keegan back. He’s spat the dummy out too many times, and , lets be honest, who’s heard from him since he left? Where is he to give his opinion to the fans on the situation?

    Kinnear is doing a great job but no-one will really want to come play for him, not a big enough coach.

    Dependant on who comes in to run the club will be the deciding factor in who ends up running the team.

  • 19 kris // Nov 5, 2008 at 5:58 PM

    Larry Ellison is worth £9billion and has been trying to buy into a sports team for the past year but with no joy. He’ll do. But also Paul Allen who co-founded microsoft is worth £11billion and owns a couple of sports franchises in te US. He would fit the description in this article. Either way any of these will do

  • 20 Big Dave // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM

    Mark-o I understand were your comeing from but KK cant come out and say anything they have a clause stating he cant talk about the Toon same as BSA cant talk

  • 21 james L // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM

    aslong as the owners keep kinear and give him 20+ million to spend in january with no stupid t1ts like Wise buying the players I will be over the moon

  • 22 Big Dave // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:02 PM

    actually thinking about the USA it would be a big big market to get into, but then the arab countries would be huge aswell

  • 23 belfast toon // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM

    JAMES L wise is a t**t but you cannot say he bought bad players

  • 24 Nick 69 // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:10 PM

    belfast toon- xisco and nacho havent exactly proved to be great signings

  • 25 Big Dave // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

    Nick 69 to be fair xisco hasnt really had a good start with us as soon as he arrived he was getting blamed for KK going then haveing to live throught the toon soap opera hasnt really been the best start. Nacho i dont really know about but i like Xisco and think given time he will do ok

  • 26 moir // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM

    Nick 69 but collo and spiderman have been

  • 27 CHUCK // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM

    Good news, those bidding are from US.
    Why, winning is a religion in the US.
    Three of the top 5#PL teams are US. owned.
    We have more in common, a language, a culture
    (well both to a degree)
    They understand the role good management plays in any successfull business venture.
    Its a massive market with a great potential for developement, yes so is Asia but as far as disposable income is concerned, the Us is far ahead, Asia can also be developed as their incomes rise.
    Think it would be a positive move, in light of the fact no one from the UK seems interested and the PL is becoming a billionaires club.

  • 28 belfast toon // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM

    They haven’t had a chance but guturiess and collicini are better than anything else we have i’m not fighting wise’s corner its a pitty things turned out like this did anyone read the bit about sir bob

  • 29 Nick 69 // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:24 PM

    i personally dont know if xisco has the pace for the prem, or the strength, hopefully hell adapt, as far as nacho goes he hasnt played yet, and that is my point really, if you get a player on loan for a season and he doesnt play for you then its a bad signing aint it, no matter how good the player may be. xiscos been poor so far and i will not judge him until at least another dozen games but at the minute i dont think its a time to be giving him his chance as we cannt afford to have players in the team who are adapting, we need points, he cud be given 15-20 mins if we are looking comfortable in a game but we cant take the risk of playing him from the start in our current state

  • 30 Nick 69 // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:27 PM

    but i 100% agree jonas is, apart from maybe zaki, the best siging in the prem so far this season, and colo, although hes had a few dodgy moments, has shown his class and i think with another solid CB hed form one of the best parternships in the prem, that along with a more solid, consistent LB we’d have a pretty decent defence

  • 31 tooooonfan // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM

    mixed feelings about the yanks
    on the one hand aston villa are ding well
    on the other liverpool although a good team have complete nonces for owners
    all in all though its probably a load of rubbish and i wont believe a word until its actually happening like

  • 32 Big Dave // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:32 PM

    Nick i agree mate the games are to important at the minute to try them but as you say maybe the last 15 mins or so in a game we are controlling. But the problem is we dont know if them players were the poison dwarfs as he was supposed to be getting the kids in and i think it was vetre that was getting the 1st teamers, but who knows

  • 33 tooooonfan // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM

    im intrigued to know what kinnear has to say on keegan
    maybe Ashleys keeping quiet to spare kev’s dignity as keegan may have left for a really stupid reason

  • 34 Gilly // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM

    @ Kris post 19

    Larry Ellison is worth $25 billion according to Forbes some 15 billion quid mate.

    He is worth more than Paul Allen obviously had a bad year…why doesn’t Warren Buffet buy us he has some spare cash like $62 billion!!

  • 35 Bill F (Original) // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM

    Yawn, oops sorry I think I may have nodded off for a moment, has something happened that I missed.

  • 36 Nick 69 // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:46 PM

    big dave- thats exactly what i said a while back when someone was saying wise made good signings, as far as im concerned it veter who has all the contacts and has good contacts in spain and worked for real madrid so i think it very much was him gettin the first teamers myself

  • 37 Ppitstop // Nov 5, 2008 at 6:53 PM

    I thought all these guys had signed confidentially clauses and if so I don’t understand how this can be true as you are responsible for any information even if from 3rd parties

  • 38 MDS // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM

    Paul Allen has even a better reputation (and more money) than Lerner. He is a very astute businessman who understands that the way you make money in professional sports is to invest money to build a sustainable winner.

    His teams have thrived in smaller US markets (Seattle and Portland).

    Also, he owns the new Seattle MLS franchise that begins play next year

  • 39 A.L. 9 // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM

    off topic but acording to Actim Index Steven Taylor has been the 3rd best defender and 15th best player overall in the Premiership this season lol.

    I know he gets a lot of stick on here from some that I disagree with but there have been a lot better defenders tan him this season, Colo for 1 in his own team haha.

  • 40 LBToon // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:22 PM

    There are any number of good U.S. based owners to consider. One in particular is the Rooney family, owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Successful club, small local market, but massive support across the U.S. They know how to build winners, how to pick coaches (manager). Unfortunately, they are not in a position at the moment to buy. As a model of the type of U.S. owner for NUFC, they are it.

  • 41 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    Why would he make a racist comment when plays with half a team or more of black players?..

  • 42 Tom Mo. // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:28 PM

    I THINK ED IS THE ONE IN FOR NUFC!!!

  • 43 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM

    A.L.9,
    are you sure those weren’t stats for the ‘stoopid grin’ colomn?..

  • 44 Dave Stopher // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM

    I cannot believe there is only 2 investors left!! I think that he will just keep the club and try and invest now!

  • 45 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 7:42 PM

    Maybe Ed has to propagate tabloid skank now, since they see him as a threat & are tryin’ to get him on-side?..
    …Just a thought!..

  • 46 skin d // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM

    i just hope they are no where near as bad as hicks and gillette.
    little willie just cause you mentioned paul allen still doesn,t mean it,s him,but i am sorry for going a bit over the top,i was just sick of all the bulls##t sources.

  • 47 A.L. 9 // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM

    Here Punk Skunk.

    http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/premover_index_top1001.gif

  • 48 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:06 PM

    lb toon just coz they are good owners in a different sport does not mean they will be good in this one for example randy learner is apparentley a bad owner in the nfl i am just thinking that a club like nufc with as passionate fans as our selves and lets not forget that we can be hard for people who are in the same sport to undersstand for people in the same sport to understand never mind in a different 1 i mean everyone seen what happened at liverpool thier owners just do not care about the fans history or culture of thier club

  • 49 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:08 PM

    can you imagine if this was us he was talking about

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=FvbqubILw2w

  • 50 simon376 // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    I wouldn’t be happy if our club ended up funding some US sports team

  • 51 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM

    A.L.9,
    i totally believe ya’ mate, i’m just pullin’ y’leg man…Soz!..

  • 52 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    But how in the whole of christendom does gomes spuds goalie get in at 92?..

  • 53 A.L. 9 // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:29 PM

    I had a feeling you were mate, just put it up incase….. Soz!

  • 54 ed_speed // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM

    i would like a consotium led by a Barack Obama to take over newcastle; he’s got a good feel for things, is good with money and must have a lot of spare time at this current moment.

    regards,
    ed

    p.s ‘mon the lads

  • 55 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    No prob!..
    stats are cool, but some of them names in there make y’wonder, don’t they?..

  • 56 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:45 PM

    lol ed and if he wouldnt be interested perhaps we could get mccaain or palin(she likes shooting which would be handy for when the mackems play us lol)

  • 57 steve // Nov 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    I can’t believe that people think that investors from the U.S is good news, the Glazers have Man U hocked up to the kilt (600 million in debt), Gillett and co hardly talk to each other and again have put Liverpool into huge debt – this will be 10 times worse than Ashley or FFS.

    They have no interest in football other than financial.

    three words spring to mind – frying pan fire

  • 58 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM

    What the Toon needs is Barry O’s fund raising ability. The man put together a hell of a team to accomplish that task.

    Seriously though, what’s the thought in Blighty over Barrack fairly emphatic win last night. I’m chuffed to bits over it, if I’m honest. I’d love to hear the English reaction from you lot.

  • 59 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM

    beyethegreat, you don’t want Palin, she’d be too much like FFS.

  • 60 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM

    steve, it’s a mixed bag. Learner and Kroenke know what they’re on about. Kroenke also owns the Colorado Rapids, who I support (I’m in Denver). I completely agree that it’s not some sorta sign of salvation (we’ve proved to everybody what idiots we can be with money over the past few months), but it’s not necessarily a dire sign either. It really depends upon who. Learner lived in the UK during his university years and fell in love with the sport. He’s got a different take on it to the Glaziers or those idiots on Merseyside. I’d much rather have someone like Learner (who has far less money than some of these new fangled owners) rather than the Citeh owners.

  • 61 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:11 PM

    tripp

    im not realy in to politics but last night i was so excited that i had to force my self to turn the telly off otherwise i would not have slept he seems charasmatic and its good to see someone over come obstacles like he has and i think hell do a good job

  • 62 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM

    also tripp did you get the day of work

  • 63 ash // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM

    What did Big Willie say then, if he was so right?

  • 64 hitman // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM

    correct me if im wrong like,but is not ambani based in the US

  • 65 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:52 PM

    hitman,
    exactly!..
    …You don’t have to be ‘from’ america to live/be based there…& ‘based’ could be be operative here?..
    …But basically, there’s very little chance an english/brit will buy us anyway!?!..

  • 66 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM

    Beyethegreat,

    I’m self-employed so no. Actually, Americans don’t get much in the way of holiday so I doubt many folks got the day off. They might have used a day but probably not. On the other hand, I bet there are loads of “water cooler” conversations going on today. I think a lot of people are truly excited, however, I think a lot of really conservative folks are gonna be pretty bitter for a while.

    He’s an amazing bloke and I think he connects with so many different people.

  • 67 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM

    tripp,
    i’m made up for the yanks, particularly black america…At long last, freedom seems to have been ‘sanctioned’…Not before time, it’s just sad that a lot of people have died, lived lives of misery for 100’s of years to get this far!..
    …Who’d of thunk it?..I thought we’d have a black pm before the yanks got a black pres!..
    …Woah!..

  • 68 Nick 69 // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM

    no ambani is not based in the us he is based in india

  • 69 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM

    punk skunk is there any 1 in the running for 1st black prime minister

  • 70 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM

    tripp,
    are you originally from here?..
    …Only askin’ ‘cos i was wonderin’ if Obama is what we would call ‘socialist’, or is that just the republicans way of gettin’ people not to vote for him…i.e. their idea of scarin’ the public?..

  • 71 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

    Beye,
    there are black & asian mp’s, can’t name ‘em tho’, but i can’t think of anyone that would be a likely candidate!..

  • 72 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

    tripp-from what i’ve seen, obama really seems to be a man of the people, someone who will take on board what the american public has to say and try and make changes for the better, which is exactly what you guys need i think.
    From a third person perspective, it seemed like America needed a change, and the sooner it came the better i think. There is obviously the small majority that are dubious/completly against him, but i think in time they’ll realise that today was one of the biggest days in the history of your country. First black president is a huge step, and its onwards and upwards from here for the US (and the uk with the whole knock on effect) as far as im concerned!

  • 73 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

    lol lads i think this is my first ever conversation about politics

  • 74 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

    I guess it’s something like when NUFC got their 1st foreign manager, or when england did?..
    …The traditionalists probably stopped it happenin’ way sooner than it did?..

  • 75 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

    Beye,
    it’s one of them things that you may not like or even understand, but it definately affects you, regardless…So, you might as well have some kinda informed choice!..
    …Head in the sand doesn’t make things change, after all…We do!..
    …It’s always better to know!..

  • 76 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM

    Punk, I’m a born and bred Yank (but I love England and English culture so I like hangin’ out here). He’s not a Socialist, but he’s certain a bit left of Center. Socialist has lots of bad connotations here (many of them linger from the 1950’s communist witch hunts that went on here) and that’s why the Republicans were throwing that word around.

    Ross, you’re right. We really needed to get our heads out and I hope that we’ve done that. Politics have been very fractious here for a while, but things seemed to have come to a head and I hope we can move beyond that. Onwards and upwards as you say.

  • 77 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    punk skunk

    true

    i think a problem in our country is all the main parties are similar which means that if youre a bit younger youre not sure who to vote for

  • 78 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM

    that was well put, Punk. I have gotten a lot more political over the last 6 years. It really stared when I was in the Army and was fuming over Iraq. I thought it was a really poor idea and felt like the Bush Admin didn’t do their Due Diligence. They just made up their minds and had a go. That’s a poor way to run a country.

  • 79 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM

    tripp,
    yea, i’m aware of americas issues with the ‘S’ word…I know a lot of americans here in London, black & white, & they, like me, think america may have just ‘tuned in to reality fm’…Maybe, just maybe, america grew up today?..Whey hey!..
    …So, would ya’ say he’s the most left of center pres ever then?..

  • 80 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Aye,
    & ‘W’ had to try & finish what pops had started, i guess?..Sr. MUST have had a lot to do with how ‘W’ ran things & his thinkin’ generally?..Yea?..

  • 81 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM

    Beye,
    the best rule of thumb i think, is: who’s gonna help the most people?..& which people are gonna be helped?..The ones that need helpin’ or the ones who are already minted/sorted, always ask yourself that mate!..

  • 82 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM

    Nah, W’s Da was a much more switched on president. He understood diplomacy much better and was not the social conservative that his son is. The older George was a much better president.

    We’ll have to see about BO. On the face of it he’s probably the most liberal, but I don’t think he’ll govern that way. I think he’ll be much more centrist. I think he’s more of a consensus type of fellow and I think, for me, that’s very important to the US right now. The last thing we need now is some kinda Republican witch hunt in the legislature.

    I think that he’ll end up being a touch left of center, and that’s probably about right for now.

    So do your American friend wanna stay in London or are they just there for a while? I wanna move abroad for a year or two just so my daughters can get a broader perspective on things while they’re kids.

  • 83 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM

    punk i do
    i think the conservatives would probably help the most people
    but i am worried that if they came in to power us (i am saying us but i dont know where your from)in the north east would be forgotten and were already lacking behind

  • 84 IrishMan // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM

    OBAMA to buy OBA MArtins as a US national asset.

  • 85 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM

    Beye,
    soz mate but there’s no chance in hell that the tories will ever look after the ‘people’…
    …They’ll try & get enough people to believe that, based on what they ‘say’, but if they get in…Watch out!..
    …I remember the last time…& grew up under thatcher etc…Depressin’ times man!..
    …Don’t be taken in mate…They’re in it for the rich, always will be!..They represent 10/20% of people…Max!..
    …Caveat emptor(buyer beware!)…

  • 86 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM

    tripp,
    i’ve got american friends: black from virginia, white from new york, mixed race from texas…all over the demograph & states!..
    …Gotta say they all love it here!..
    …One of my best mates (black/virginian) has been here nigh on 20 years & he says he won’t be goin’ back!..Can’t see many goin’ back any time soon…They like the style over here!..

  • 87 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM

    punk thats what i am told but its tricky to decide who to vote for

    labour not doing well(so a lot of people say)

    conservatives(like you say i am told they are in for the rich )

    lib dems( who knows)

    bnp(racist scum)

  • 88 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM

    Beye,
    my family is from Jarrow, but i grew up mostly in Co. Durham!..

  • 89 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM

    Right-o. I don’t think I’d like London too much. Denver is as big a city as I care to live in (about 3 million). At some point I hope I can move over for a couple of years. I’d love to be able to watch more live Football, esp in a much larger stadium with passionate fans that make a lot of noise. That’d be mint.

    BTW, what does “soz” mean? Is that a London thing? I some times don’t know if the slang on here is London or Geordie.

  • 90 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM

    Beye,
    really there’s left & right!..
    Labour left…Cons right…
    Lib dems just take votes from the others & that usually lets the tories in…
    …Despite what the press say: Labour is still more the peoples party & tories are defo the toffs party…Lib dems generally wishy-washy, middle class(no offence to none wishy-washy middle class people)…
    …But you’re dead right about the bnp…Racist scum!..

  • 91 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:04 PM

    ‘Soz’ is short for sorry…I guess it’s Geordie!?!..
    …Aye, London is a big town…But, it does have a lot of little towns makin’ it up & there’s still community, despite what people say!..
    …& if you can afford it, there’s a lot of cute towns/villages on the outskirts!..

  • 92 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:04 PM

    The concept of more than two parties is interesting. Sounds like there are always two main ones regardless of how many are actually out there. We have other parties here, but for the most part they are of absolutely no consequence. Most of them are single issue parties that change with the times, though strangely enough, there’s still a prohibitionist party.

  • 93 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:06 PM

    tripp,
    get yourself to see the Toon, you’d love it mate!..
    …Especially when the crowd has the bit between it’s teeth…There’s nowt like it!..

    …Come worship in the Geordie cathedral!..

  • 94 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:06 PM

    tripp you should come to the north east newcastle in particular if you like big citys (even though the population is only about 200,000
    and in terms of passionate fans i neednt say more also in the north east we are imo probably the most friendly people ( though i have never lived any where else)

  • 95 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:07 PM

    Well lads, I’ve got to unass the AO as we say in the Army. Have a good night. Chat with ya tomorrow.

  • 96 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:07 PM

    also soz means sorry

  • 97 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:09 PM

    im from durham wer bouts u from

  • 98 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:10 PM

    Most other parties are single issue…The liberal democrats are slightly more, but mostly disaffected or dissadent labour or tories!..
    …The little parties maybe get more press over here & anyone, after payin’ a deposit, can run in an election!..

  • 99 tripp // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:10 PM

    OK, one last one… yeah, I really wanna get to SJP. Gotta learn some of the songs first. Hopefully the Pound Sterling will tank and I can get over there cheap! Just kidding, but when it was $2 to the  Pound there was just no hope.

  • 100 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:10 PM

    well co.durham not the city of durham

    bishop auckland

  • 101 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:11 PM

    Later tripp,
    & congratulations, enjoy!..
    :D

  • 102 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM

    1.62 now bro’!..

  • 103 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM

    tripp-ryan air were considering going international and sending flights to the US for something unbeleivable like £10-12, sadly i think the idea has fallen through or i’d be over the pond every few months! hah

  • 104 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:13 PM

    Grew up mainly in Darlington, but lived all over the shop!..
    …The misses grew up in Shildon, you defo know that!..

  • 105 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:14 PM

    KK,
    hope that comes true!..

  • 106 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    yeah i know shildon birth of the railway

  • 107 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    How Beye,
    West Aukland were the 1st world cup winners!..
    …& they retained the title!..

    …Some Darlo lads playin’ for them too!..

  • 108 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:18 PM

    its a couple of miles from where i live
    i do my driving lessons thier

  • 109 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:19 PM

    yeah punk they beat juve

  • 110 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:20 PM

    bishop auckland football club also loaned man u players after munich

  • 111 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:23 PM

    Excellent…Loanees from Bishop!..

  • 112 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:24 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Auckland_Town_F.C.

  • 113 beyethegreat // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:25 PM

    any way punk i hope i can talk to ya soon i got to go

  • 114 Paul:D // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:32 PM

    its george forman

  • 115 Punk Skunk // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:34 PM

    Aye Beye,
    nice one!..
    …I gotta spilt too!..
    …Later!..

  • 116 brutooooon // Nov 5, 2008 at 11:37 PM

    obama going to invest in nufc

  • 117 lezb // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    all charges against Barton of a racist nature have been dismissed one wonders where all this type of talk came from in the first place and WHY.Imo I think that Nufc should take action against Aston Villa for character assasination and this may deter other clubs from making unsubstanciated claims.Lets be honest Bartons an easy target and every team we beat or give a hard time is going to use the BARTON card to exact revenge.This will be the first of many fabricated claims against Barton he will not be able to sneeze without someone claiming he tried to head butt me.
    lezb

  • 118 Spyro // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:22 AM

    Lezb

    It is not Villa who have made the allegations. It is the gutter tabloid papers who have simply made it up and claimed that an “expert lip reader” noticed a racist remark from Barton (roll eyes). They have then supplemented their story with comments made by alleged “fans” who complained to them about the “racist” incident. This is so they can say whatever they like and then distance themselves from obsurd story if Barton was to rightly complain about the allegations e.g. We made no allegations and the comments printed reflected those of offended viewers, nothing more etc. It is real below the belt stuff, but what we have all come to expect from those low paid saddo’s who dont have proper jobs.

  • 119 Spyro // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:28 AM

    At the end of the day, these low lives know that all they have to do is put out a headline such as, “Racist Abust Lands Barton In More Trouble”, and the uneducated tools (their target audience) who believe those stories will be spreading the news to their mates before they even open the link/read the paper and apply any logic to the content of the article…which of course has very little substance to it at all.

  • 120 Spyro // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:34 AM

    I take that back Lezb,

    Villa are being twats. the way Martin O’Neil worded his statement is very significant ad deliberate indeed. He made very sure he didn’t put Barton totally in the clear, instead he said “…Gabby doesn’t want to talk about it”. Talk about below the belt tactics, i have lost all respect for the man now. Oh well, sour grapes eh, lol.

  • 121 D.C. // Nov 6, 2008 at 1:34 AM

    As I said on another of Ed’s entries, we could do much worse than Paul Allen. He’s kind of reviled by Blazers fans for the most part due to being very Mike Ashley-ish (declaring bankruptcy on the holding company owning the lease to their arena only to try and buy it out of bankruptcy with anotehr of his holding companies) but he’s beloved by Seahawks fans for spending money to bring in good coaches and players, and he plunked quite a bit down for a nice stadium for them.

    I personally would prefer Mark Cuban over Allen, but if those two happen to be the ones reportedly in the running we’ll be in very good hands, imo, either way.

  • 122 Sav // Nov 6, 2008 at 5:04 AM

    In fairness to M.O’N, he couldn’t say if there was or wasn’t racist remarks made as he was miles away. The press have done their best to lynch Barton, abetted by Jeff Plonker, restauranteur, Walthamstowe, and Man U. fan and his mates for whom there can be no redemption for Joey.

    However,….An FA statement said: “The club (Villa) has responded to inform us that there were no racist connotations to this incident. On this basis, The FA will not be pursuing this matter.” Barton has denied any wrongdoing.

  • 123 NUFCC // Nov 6, 2008 at 6:39 AM

    On an unrelated matter. i feel that when owen comes back, instead of benching one of our two best players oba/owen we should play with our best XI with three upfront and dropping kicky butt.

  • 124 Goxanz // Nov 6, 2008 at 8:48 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X312paJYsAE&feature=related

    great goals from Xisco and Collocini!!

  • 125 AndyT // Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM

    Barton – Needs to be careful, but what none of the press are reporting is that his incident with ‘Gabby’ came just after Agbonlahor had thrown him somewhat firmly to the ground with a fairly impressive judo move!

    American Buyers – Good thing from my POV at the minute. It wont be a hedge fund/asset striping type of consortium – the ones still in business, or likely to be over the next couple of years need investments that are going to generate cash immediately, they dont have the readies to invest in something that wont show a return for a couple of years. Simmilarly a debt funded buyout of the Glazier / Gillette-Hicks variety is totally off the cards at the minute. Current exchange rate is giving them better bang for buck – for a good number of reasons the rate is going to favour the US for a good coulpe of years, meaning that their initial investment in the club is relatively cheap, and as global economies recover and sterling and euro creep back up against the dollar, their future profits also increase in dollar terms – makes us an attractive investment. Also because investements are tanking world wide, it is just a safer move for a cash rich guy already running sports franchises to put their money into a sports franchise. Especially one where the US market is growing. The MLS has serious backers and are using the premiership and footballers like Beckham to showcase “soccer” in the US.
    Two downsides to be aware of. US owners will mean you have to get more used to hearing NUFC reffered to as a soccer team rather than a football team. One thing a US sports franchise owner will be totally unafraid of in the medium term is raising ticket prices.

  • 126 skin d // Nov 6, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    howay anil ambani buy the toon,please we do not want septic owners.

  • 127 skin d // Nov 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

    i,d rather have,indian,chinese,arab than german tanks owning the club.
    we will be called newcastle mighty magpies or something crap like that.
    will we have to ring the winning bell,f##king cheerleaders go barton,go barton,the goal tender is not very good in de-fense.
    it,s my worst nightmare.

  • 128 Rich // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM

    Ed!

    Don’t you have any rich contacts from IBM??!

    You should head a consortium!

  • 129 Jamie G // Nov 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM

    skin d, you are being extremely general.
    I ask you, do you see cheerleaders or any silly american stereotype that youve just mentioned at villa park, old trafford, anfield or pride park? NO is the answer.

    I am extremely happy about the prospect of American owners. They know how to make money, the names mentioned all have experience with sports teams, and importantly speak english, unlike some of the potential asian owners, which i think is extremely important.

    I like the look of Cuban, he seems young and passionate, (not to mention stinking rich)

  • 130 stuart // Nov 6, 2008 at 1:36 PM

    Cuban is only worth the same as Ashley! No point trading Ashley in for someone with the same size wallet. It could well be him interested though cos he loves sports

  • 131 davis shuttlerique // Nov 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    I think that a ameobi is mintaz, i luv him like, hes leefil, jose enrique is da bomb ayeee, am gonna make love to a piggy, YEEEEHAAAAH

  • 132 davis shuttlerique // Nov 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM

    NUFC ARE MINTAZZZ AYEEE< ROCKIN DA MIKE IS OBAFEY, AYEEE,ol

  • 133 Todd // Nov 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    Mark Cuban and Michael Dell as partners would be pretty dang skippy if you ask me.
    Cuban is annoying but he is a genius. Dell is quiet and also smart as heck and both are great marketers. Dell as sponsor rather than Northern Rock wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, being as Dell is…solvent.
    Then Dell can put a plant in Newcastle and everybody wins.
    Yay!!!!

    Cubans blog is pretty good read also. E.g. at http://blogmaverick.com/2008/10/04/how-to-get-rich/

  • 134 malaysia magpie // Nov 6, 2008 at 5:57 PM

    can anyone give me their msn..i want it…coz i never chat with any england newcastle fans before..pls…hope anyone of you add me in your msn…or u can also send to my msn…toonarmy_goerdies@hotmail.com

  • 135 GeordieDeb // Nov 7, 2008 at 2:27 AM

    Tripp
    Back to your question on Obama -just arrived back home in the UK today from the US. Was in Chicago coincidentally when Obama made his acceptance speech in Grant Park Chicago so went down along with hundreds of thousands of people to soak up the atmosphere. What a night the place was jumping. I think it’s fantastic and I’m sure he will be a really great and inspirational president. If we could only have some of his magic rub off on the Toon – with our own Obama maybe he will follow in the great mans footsteps and have a fab season!

  • 136 CHUCK // Nov 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM

    The question was asked, is Obama a socialist and the answer is in fact far from it , he could be best described IMO as a moderate liberal.
    One must understand the political centre in the US is moderate right or conservative.
    So in describing peoples political identity its important to identify from which perspective it is described.
    I wish the man well, it`s a relief for a majority of Americans to finally see the end of a disasterous regime, but obama needs all the help he can get
    his is going to be a tough row to hoe.




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