Kinnear Blames Referee For Poor Penalty Decision


Joe Kinnear, the former Wimbledon and Nottingham Forest manager thinks the penalty awarded against Newcastle this afternoon at Craven Cottage, was a bad choice by referee Martin Atkinson.

Martin Atkinson – Kinnear fuming at penalty decision


The Newcastle manager is seeking an apology from Atkinson and believes the decision cost his side victory in West London.

Newcastle had just equalized through Ameobi, for the local lad’s 3rd Premier league goal of the season, and they were all over Fulham looking for the winner.

Kinnear told Sky Sports after the game:.

“I’m fuming, to be honest. We were the better team at the end of the first half and all the way through the second but we’ve lost.”

“It comes down to a referee’s decision and it’s cost us dear. Just before the penalty, Cacapa is pushed off the ball and the referee lets it go – it was an appalling decision and I’m so angry.”

“It keeps happening to us and the referee has a lot to answer for. I’m trying to hold back on what I really feel, but I’ll probably get in trouble anyway.”

That goal cost Newcastle the game, no doubt about that, because it took the wind completely out of the team’s sails, after Newcastle had just equalized, and were all over the Cottagers. But we honestly thought it was a legitimate penalty even though we know that Andy Johnson falls down in the penalty box all the time.

Danny Murphy dispatched the penalty brilliantly past Shay Given.

It would not have been a penalty if Cacapa hadn’t let Andy Johnson get past him so easily, and forced Fabricio Coloccini into the tackle which brought down Johnson, who made the most of it of course, but it was still a penalty, in our opinion.

No, this defeat was of our own doing, and we gave away two poor goals, let’s at least fess up to that.

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22 comments so far

  • Whitt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #1

    i thought the penalty was very similar to the one Ameobi won against WBA. no doubt Andy Johnson was playing for it, and, for me, no doubt that it was the proper call.

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  • Leo Smith

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #2

    Whether the foul warranted a penalty is not up for debate – the trip waranted a penalty. What Kinnear is saying is that Cacapa was fouled in the build up – he was certainly pushed by Johnson, who wouldn’t have got the ball if he hadn’t, so it’s a reasonable claim. The real point is that Fulham were fortunate to gain such a foothold when we were battering them.

    The ref’s performance for the rest of the game was deeply questionable however – Fulham got away with a LOT of kicks on ours players which won them the ball illegally, which is why for large periods we kept ahem *losing* possession…

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  • 1000

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #3

    cacapa should never play for newcastle agian he was awful today no pace no reading of the game and clumsy tackles

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  • Ed the Duck

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #4

    It was sadly a clear penalty… Colchi didn’t really have a choice and the player’s disputes were muted. The Brazilian was poor all day… he has good technique and can pass but no pace or strength which is somewhat important in the Premiership.

    My real beef is with JFK… why no Bassong on the bench which would have enabled the back 4 to be changed, taking Jonas off removed width, why no Zog for the OK but tiring Duff… and where was the “dynamic duo” of Butt and Barton against Murphey and Bullard two of the most creative but soft and slowest central midfielders in the league..

    A disappointing 3 points dropped today.

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  • Sav

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM

    Comment #5

    I though Atkinson did Ok.
    (Although another mistake was allowing Ameobi’s goal which was clearly offside.)

    Cloddio was dire, weak and slow in that incident and indeed, generally throughout the match. He’s like a geriatric Bramble.

    The fact that JFK only came in September has relieved him from the obligation to tell Ashley that his failure to invest ‘Wisely’ in the squad, namely by failing to fill essential gaps at LB and CB has cost us 3 points again today. Its as simple as that. Keegan knew Cloddio and ‘The Bull’ weren’t good enough and I daresay JFK knows it, too, at least after today.

    Of course, JFK can’t say that, but we all know it to be the case. or should do.

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  • JARROW LAD who is hurt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:16 PM

    Comment #6

    well i blame all the rest of the team to begin with , they played better football than us they were eager hunger for goals and shown fighting spirits , we laid back clueless ,cacapa mistakes as usual dont know why we play him , he should played bassong instead
    i really dont know were back in relegation zone again thanks to the back four ,a johnson was class and shown ushow to play football, bullard dominated the midfield while butt divint knaa were he waas in the match or not ,all the attacking came from the flanks . we need a creativity midfielder and fighting spirits

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  • CHUCK

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM

    Comment #7

    It was a penalty no different than Sholas recent one.
    On watching the game its apparent that diving is no longer just an olympic sport.
    The sliding tackle is about to be outlawed from the game also, along with the shoulder charge and obstruction calls.
    But apparently shirt tugging, holding and the use of elbows is commonplace and frequently ignored.
    The big Norsky CD Haageland knocked our strikers on their asses all game, frequently coming over the top, completely ignored by the ref, whats up with that ?
    Its a tough job I realise but some of the decisions being made lately show a decided lack of quality among many refs. both from the UK and elswhere.
    Bring back baldy Coloccini,(have I got the right name) great ref.

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  • Sav

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #8

    Err,… no. Its Collina

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  • AndrewNUFC

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #9

    It was a pen, Cacapa was hardly fouled. Lets get on with it.

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  • reillers

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #10

    Did ya see wee Given’s face when the penalty was given, looked like he was going to smack someone. LOL!! I don’t blame him. The defence seem out to make his life a living hell in goals.

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  • Egar

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #11

    Spot on, Sav.

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  • Jezza

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #12

    There were some other poor decisions today, such as putting Cacapa in the team, as well as leaving Owen on the bench. I winder who Kinnear will blame for those ones.

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  • toontoon

    Nov 9, 2008 at 8:51 PM

    Comment #13

    it was a pen but cacapa was fouled in the build up to it. cacapa shouldnt of even been playing bassong should of started give the kid a chance against wigan at centre back and see how he does

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  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 9, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #14

    Joe did not make enough good decisions to warrant him blaming someone else for things going badly.

    Two bad pieces of bad defending resulted in goals for their side and both could have been avoided which would have resulted in nice win.

    As it is the boys are back in trouble.

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  • Paul Gadd

    Nov 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #15

    Cacapa has to be released. He is useless and the defeat was totally down to Kinnear picking him instead of Bassong

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  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 9, 2008 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #16

    Sorry JK it was a penalty.
    Cacapca sucks Too.

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  • wsq

    Nov 10, 2008 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #17

    beye shouldn’t have been given a yellow card.

    kinnear should know why newcastle lost.

    if the team played well enough from start to finish no bad luck can deny us a victory or a draw.

    we make our own luck.

    he could’ve taken off ameobi and made some other substitutions.

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  • vic

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:56 AM

    Comment #18

    Joe should blame himself for loosing 3 points.
    The squad was not optimal at all.
    I think this squad was advised by Denise Wise.
    It is obvious that defenders line -Beye-Taylor-Colo-Bassong is the best at this moment. Why he put Cacapa who did not played for many mounths or Enrique who is still needs to learn and improve. Enrique is still prospect in comparison with solid Bassong’s performance.
    Agree with previous comments that Butt-Barton is slowest pair in the Premiership.
    I do not blame Joe completely as he is still under pressure of Asley&Wise.

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  • Guinea Mag

    Nov 10, 2008 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #19

    We were second best for most of the first half and should have used substitutions better in second half; i.e. Zog and Guthrie both should have been introduced as we chased the game after the penalty……

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  • craignufc

    Nov 10, 2008 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #20

    Cacapa had a nightmare! I know Taylor has a tendancy to fall asleep on the odd occasion but Id much prefer him in there to Cacapa, when is Taylor back? Why didnt we go for Bassong in there who looks a strong, pacy and calm defender? Cacapa is too slow and old.

    Yes, he was pushed, and yes Johnson made the most of Colo’s tackle but Cacapa should have been stronger and Colo wouldnt have been forced into making the tackle.

    Personally, I would play the back four:

    Beye Taylor Colo Bassong

    I still think Enrique is poor, hes caught out all of the time, most of the play came down his side first half and his distrubution is awful, which puts us under pressure. Bassong in there instead of his, even if its not his preferred position.

    Also, I thought Jonas had his worst game for us, was he carrying an injury?

    Another goal for Shola, can you really replace him for Owen, not after that shocking effort after coming on as sub. Think Martins and Shola deserve another bash against Wigan, maybe then replace Martins.

    A must win next week against Wigan, as you can only hope to pick a point up at best against Chelsea.

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  • Mark-o

    Nov 10, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #21

    Jesus! Aus geordie, you’d think we’d been relegated already! there’s 6 points seperating bottom from 10th, still plenty to play for.
    I think Coloccini was the only decent played on the pitch.
    Owen would have scored if the bumbling idiot shola had got out of his way.
    Every touch Shola has is a fluke, he’s go no pace, no skill and up against a half decent central defender, gets beat in the air every time!!!

    My real gripe yesterday was with Duff, again he looked scared to take people on, every pass went astray. Charlie should start ahead of him everytime for me!

    All those saying bassing should have been on the bench, how do we know he’s not injured or something?

    People seem very keen to jump on Kinear’s back when we lose, but as soon as we win (west brom, villa) it’s all hail king kinear. Wake up! he’s only here ’cause no one else will take the job short term. If he hadn’t have stepped in then we would be well and trully in the mire!

    On a seperate note, Kinear has said that the referee was ‘mickey mouse’. No doubt he’ll get repremanded for that but does anyone else think that the standard of refereeing in the premier league is the worst in Europe? I do and the FA are scared to take any action. But as fans what can we do?

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  • Shanghaitoon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #22

    Did anyone notice Murphy have a few kicks at Joey, especially when Joey went for the low header?? Joey didn’t bite, he left Murphy alone which pleased and surprised me!!

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