Mike Ashley May Be Having Second Thoughts On Selling

It seems like Joe Kinnear is floating a trial balloon, to see how fans would react if Mike Ashley decides to retain ownership of the club, and of course presumably Kinnear would be permanent manager, at least for a while.

Mike Ashley – is he having second thoughts on selling the club?

It seems like Joe gets a message from Mike after every game, and he must have been impressed with the spirit and fight Joe has instilled back into the team. Mike seems to want to watch the Newcastle games again, with his children apparently very keen on still supporting the Tyneside club.

We should know by November 22nd, but if Ashley does come out and shock everybody, by saying he will retain the Tyneside club, he should come out with what he will do in the short term.

Here are some things he could do to appease Newcastle fans:

  • Replace Derek Llambias with some one else, who knows about football, and who will talk to the Newcastle fans and keep them well informed of what’s happening, much like Chris Mort did so well initially
  • Either sack Dennis Wise or redefine his role as concentrating on getting young players to the club, and further validate that the Newcastle manager will have the final say on all comings and goings of players at the club
  • Allow Joe to strengthen his training squad, which is very small, since Keegan, McDermott and Sadler left with Joe being the only new coach coming in. The coaching staff have done a stellar job at the club at all levels with the Reserves and Under -18 teams starting to play very well too.
  • Give Joe Kinnear some money to spend in January. It seems like Joe wants to bring in four new players during the January transfer window, and he may also want to move some players out, who are not performing or who arte continually injured – like Alan Smith and Mark Viduka as two examples.
    Giving Joe a minimum of £10M to £20M to help accomplish this, with money Joe can also spend from outgoing transfers would give us a more solid squad for the remainder of the season.
    That would be well accepted by the fans – and it seems like Joe could be a good negotiator on the transfer market

However, if this happens, there will no doubt be some fury from a section of the Newcastle fan base, who don’t want Ashley back at any time. We hope something gets settled, one way or the other, because the very last thing we want right now is more upheaval at the club.

We’ve had far more than enough for one season. But we’ll just have to wait and see what comes of all of this, but something needs to be sorted out before the end of the year, so we will be ready for the transfer window, not to mention what we’re going to do with Michael Owen.

Comments very welcome – but please keep them decent – many thanks.

48 comments so far

  • sweendog

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #1

    Can’t see it .. you don’t make a pack with the devil 🙂

  • Carl

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #2

    I’d be happy with that. The whole problems came because Keegan and Ashley were both too stubborn to work out the problems, but now one of them is gone it could be ok.

    The main thing he would have to do is communicate more. Fans need to know what’s going on, who is responsible for what, what Ashley’s role is, and keep getting these updates. Otherwise the only news on the organisation of the club comes out of tabloids, who will print anything, and then the fans get upset and get on the owner’s back.

    In this dodgy economy I’d rather have an owner who is trying to run the club in the black than some random American or Saudi who wants to pump a bunch of money into the club with no real plan for the long term.

  • iain

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #3

    the bare minimum ashley can do if hes staying will be to sack lambias and wise and give jfk a decent wedge to spend in january.

    all that will do though is buy him some breathing space until the end of the season when he would have to prove his loyalty to the club properly.

    although why would he do that now, given he could of potentialy avoided this mess by doing the above during the summer.


    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #4

    Who was manager before kinnear? Almost forgot…seriously, no disrespect to Keegan, but his days are gone…please mates, stop living in the past!!

    Kinnear deserves credit, he deserves the job permanently and he deserves our full backing! New hero in the making! Provide us with silverware if we back him!

    I said many times before, don’t be stupid and forgive MA if he cannot sell. It is our club, and our future! Everyone can make mistakes (see barton) if he appologises honestly and then gives everything for the good of the club!!

    Either way, even if new owners come in, I would like to keep kinnear becouse the club needs stability desperately!! Maybe shearer can help as some kind of a co-striker-coach out? He can learn all he needs to be the future manager…but until then, kinnear is the right man with his passion and love to the geordie nation!

  • craig chisholm

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #5

    ashley is a complete wanker but if he is determined to stay he would have to get shot of lambias and wise – i think he will not do this either. as it is, wise has already started to show his face again around st james. i still want the lot of them out. keegan is now not the issue, keegan did his bit in exposing our managment for what it is – a bunch of lying, two faced, dont give a shit about the fans greed motivated money men, nothing else. i want ashley out fully and a top notch manager in to replace JK. i agree that kk can now no longer come back.

  • Alex

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM

    Comment #6

    I would love to see Kinnear given a contract for the rest of this season plus another 2 . Then try to bring Shearer and Speed into the backroom staff to learn the job under Kinnear , with the long term plan of those 2 forming a management duo .

  • Sav

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #7

    No! No! No! You cannot trust the bloke. The fans (not just of this club) would lose credibility after a hard-fought struggle which is still ongoing. Ash is in it for the bucks. Nothing more.
    Of course JFK would like him to stay. That means JFK gets to stay.
    There would have to be a sacrificial Llamb as a gesture to the fans and Wise needs to be subordinate to the manager, whoever that is, and Ashley is not going to do that or he would have during the 3-day wrangle with Keegan.

    Don’t forget, Ashley has so far put nothing in for the squad, he has no respect for the fans or the club. He’s lied to the fans and the manager. Never mind the headlines, look at the facts of what he has done/not done. I’d be happy to continue with JFK, but not if the price was Ashley’s ownership.

  • marhy

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #8

    I would’nt mind but I would like him to get rid of kinnear and bring in a real top top manager.oh and get rid of wise.

  • reillers

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #9

    Whatever about that, but Ed, please, please, PLEASE change the picture (not to the man boobs one either) it’s scares the living bijesus outta me.

  • Tom1664

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #10


    I don’t touch the notw with a 60 foot pole, but dug this up on 606

  • Pete

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #11

    Seriously now, Kinnear is not a very good manager. Short term, OK, long term, no way.
    As for silverware under Kinnear, I’d eat my hat, my shoes, sell my flat and move to Fiji to start a polish inspired jazz band if that ever happend. All in all not very likely..

    New owner – manager needed still. Until that happens we’re in the ****

  • bri

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #12

    the one mistake MA made was bringing in dennis un wise to the club. MAs plan could still work but only if the manager and so called director of football completely trust each other and clearly KK and wise were never going to work. Give JFK what he deserves a long contract and funds to stregnthen the squad JFK has done great ,give him at least the rest of the season.

  • Steve

    Nov 9, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #13

    Ashley will never be accepted again. He has lied and deceived us all by filling us up with false hope. He needs to do whats best for NUFC and sell up ASAP. Hopefully the new owners ambitions will match that of the fans

  • Ben_BKK

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #14

    ELFER will you please stop posting the same post on loads of different threads? It’s really annoying…

  • Ken

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #15

    If Ashley does decide to stay, would he sit down the day after and talk to the supporters club? http://www.nusc.org.uk

  • Tom4Nufc

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #16

    Ok, give us money and I dont give a to** who owns our club, aslong as the manager choses his players then no problem, but can Ash win us back? Well he gotta back us well if he is gna, lets just see, though I am not optimistic.

  • AndrewNUFC

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #17

    The best thing for everyone IMO is Ashley sells up-its the only way foward. But is Ashley can’t sell at this moment in time with the credi crisis he should just get Joe in for the full season and take it from there.

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #18

    rob lee today said on goals on sunday that he would love to be apart of a backroom staff with shearer as manager

  • Daniel

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #19

    I’m still undecided about MA, some of the critisism is unjustified – running a football club is NOT easy. However he has made mistakes. If he were to rectify these (by the points you say) then that’d be great. I don’t even think Wise needs sacking – he has some (not loads) of contacts which will be able to pick talent, likewise with Vetere. A maanger must have the final say though.

  • Knownowt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Although acknowledging that Kinnear has done well in his time at the helm, lets not get carried away with the hype. The results he’s achieved are the very least we would have expected under KK, and inferior to what we would have expected had he been supported in the transfer window and allowed to do his job properly. The bottom line is that, should we lose at Fulham this afternoon, we could still be back in the bottom three this evening depending on other results.

  • Spyro

    Nov 9, 2008 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #21

    “Although acknowledging that Kinnear has done well in his time at the helm, lets not get carried away with the hype. The results he’s achieved are the very least we would have expected under KK”

    Are you havin a f*****n laugh!? What qualifies you to make such a statement!? ridiculous! Stop sucking KK’s balls, he was not a good enough manager for the club and his win percentage stands testimony to that.

    Also, the man is a pathetic coward and have lost all respect for him. What sort of manager does not come out and tell “his” fans what the situation is?! He just walks out on everyone because HIS principles are being challenged. Therefore he put himself before the club and doesn’t deserve the adoration he gets.

    Also, have people not questioned why this man has still not come out and spoke out to the fans up to this day? COWARD!


    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #22

    anyone got a link to watc the game

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #23

    i disagree spyro

    and to put my opinoin simpley

    kk is in the right

    ma is in the wrong

  • simon376

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #24

    Spyro, nither has Big Sam come out and spoken to the fans, could be something to do with the contract they both signed.

    Maybe you cant remember KK last time he was here and the kind of football we played. Maybe you have forgotten how the football changed when he replaced sam and managed to get the horrible stuff out of the players minds that he had put in there.

    Keegan had principles and if it wasnt for him going the club might not be up for sale.

    Maybe going on about Keegan is living in the past, but apart from Sir Bobby Robson, who has done anything with the team since Keegan was here last time round? It took all the time from Harvey to Keegan for anything to happen for us and if we are not careful, could be same length of time again.

    When people keep going on about appointing managers from abroad, could they do it in the Premiership? I’d rather have Phil Brown than Terim or whatever the Trukish guys name is. At least Brown had proved he can do it.

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #25

    just saw the teams there, we have cacapa starting at cb with colo.

  • ElfyToon

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #26

    thats a bit harsh on kk spyro, there might be a clause in the contract preventing him from talking to us. my opinion of kk is the same as ever bu i think we need to focus on what is happening now and what is going to happen. stabilising the club is more important than looking at why kk left. lets just focus on supportin the lads 100% and until this situation is resolved lets just hope for the best.
    And personally lets not jup onto the jk bandwagon, he may be gettin on f9 at the minute but lets w8 and c how he fairs in the longer run, remember roeder? gr8 first season for us and as a result of injuries his second season ended as our worst in the prem.

  • daydeburt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #27

    thats a strange one like!!!
    taylors not my favourite like but cacappa isnt up to much. bet he plays well now ive said that. toon to win 2-0.

    Toon Toon!!!

  • Nick 69

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #28

    so then ur still as much a prick as ever spyro.

    some people on here are pathetic, ashley knew tht if he just took a step back for a while people like some of u on here wud just accept him again.
    and seriously talk about gettin carried away, joe kinnear gets a couple of decent results and everyone reckons he deserves the job full time, u got no ambition or what cos we aint gonna go nowhere under him, u forgotten how awful his wimbledon team were or what?

  • james

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #29

    Some Of My Fellow NewcAstle Fans Have Short Memories The Sooner Mike Ashley Is Out Of The Club The Better, He Had A Chance To Bring Back KEEGAN But Obviously Backed WISE Overhim ,He Has No Intention of Getting Rid Of Wise ,As For Joe Kinnear He Gets A Couple Of Decent Results And Some People Want Him Full Time GLENN ROEDER RING ANY BELLS! What This Club Needs Is A New Owner And World Class Manager ASAP

  • daydeburt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #30

    howay blyth 3-1 yesterday and now bournemouth away, one more round from a potential game v liverpool or something at croft park!! hahaha

  • dougnufc

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #31


    Tayls is out for this game, hopefully JK knows what he is doing and put Bassong on for him

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #32

    doug-its cacapa in mate

  • ObaFan2

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #33

    Ummm, keep it clean! ah well here goes…..

    Ashley should **** off the lying ****, sell our club you fat *******, stop thinking of your over stuffed wallet and do the best for the club. 😆

    He is not happy to spend on our 1st team, pays our manager peanuts, he will be responsible for Owen and others leaving the club and also responsible for the poor attendances at SJP.

    There is no real future IMO with Ashley remaining @ SJP.

  • xfer

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #34

    Well, i got no problem with the structure as long as they keep communicating with the fans, and as long as Joe is happy with it.

    Im really happy with the signings we have made so far, hasnt been like this for a long long time now.

  • royrjmk

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #35
  • ??

    Nov 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #36

    James (Post 29) – Does It Tak You Ages To Type Every Word With A Capital Letter At The Start, Coz It Was A Pain In The Arse Typing That Out!!

    Daydeburt (Post 30) – I live in Cyprus now but used to live in Blyth and I couldnt believe it when they won yesterday! They genuinely have a real chance of being FA Cup heroes again….I hope to God they get through the 2nd round!!

  • ameobi23

    Nov 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Would be happy to see Ashley back in the stands he really does care about the club but first he would have to sack wise and lambias and not reapoint keegan either keep kinear or bring in shearer some onewith a bit of heart


    Nov 9, 2008 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #38

    MA has got a bad rap and I have to admitt I have `nt been one of his fans.
    However I do believe the guy was a true fan with a plan.
    His was to replicate the business plan at Arsenal, with a bean counter as the final word on buying and selling (Mort)
    Saw the writing on the wall with Sam and fired him.
    He stated he was prepared to invest 20m. a year on players (before he found out he owed an additional 50m) that shot that plan in tha ass.
    Hired KK, but found he wanted to buy people like Henry, which was a no starter.
    When Mort f****d off, he hired Wise and the so called London mafia (bad choice) although we got two decent signings and a prospect via the mafia and possibly some kids for the future.
    The main problem arose during the summer window, a total lack of any communication from management.
    Whether this was bad PR or an intentional silence (knowing that funds were limited) or
    just a total f**k up in the market, remains to be told. It sure pissed the fans off though.
    Sure Keegan was put on the spot to a degree, but dont tell me he was unaware before he signed that there was a sysem in place with a football director having the last word.
    So in retrospect all Ashley could be accused of is in fact choosing either a bad management system or more likely a bad management team.
    I still believe his plan was a good one , considering the leveraged condition of many PL top clubs.
    If the sale of the club does`nt go through, even if it does it remains (without the Football director) a good business plan with the right team involved.

  • Knownowt

    Nov 9, 2008 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #39

    Spyro; there’s opinion and there’s prejudice. It’s quite obvious where you’re coming from. Did Keegan stand on your foot at some time?
    What Qualifies me to make such a statement? In my lifetime we have won the FA cup three times and a european trophy. The last two of these I saw in person. Try making your point without insulting people with views that don’t correspond to your own. Anything else I may feel the need to say to you has been adequately expressed by other responses to your comments.

  • Sav

    Nov 9, 2008 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #40

    CHUCK, your piece is factually incorrect in too many areas to be taken seriously and the conclusions you draw from your erroneous account of events don’t add up, either. If you are going to go off on a rant, you should get your story straight first. There could be aliens from Mars reading this who might get the wrong idea.
    Is that where you are from?


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