Joe Thinks Cacapa Is Better Player Than Bassong


There’s a lot of second guessing about whether Kinnear should have played Seb Bassong, or even Habib Beye, at center-back instead of Cacapa, who played very poorly, but it’s so easy in retrospect, when you look back at what happened.

Steven Taylor – was ruled out of game with sore groin

And Joe revealed today that he and the Newcastle staff think Cacapa is the better player of the two.

Joe talked to the Evening Chronicle today:

“I wouldn’t have said I would have done things differently, because I sat down with everybody concerned and the options weren’t there.”

“I wanted Taylor to play – there’s no doubt about that. We left it until as late as possible to put him in the side, but he pulled out.” “He was still feeling his groin, and we had to make a decision.”

“I know there’s Bassong, but it’s easy to say that after the event.” “We feel amongst ourselves that Cacapa is the better player of the two, but he didn’t have an exceptionally good game, and the first goal was an error on his part.”

Kinnear says that Cacapa was fouled before Coloccini gave away the penalty in the 65th minute, but that was only one of many incidents that happened, with Newcastle giving away both goals, and Shola’s goal clearly offside.

And the faithful Newcastle supporters couldn’t quite understand why Jonas was substituted for Michael Owen, and maybe Damien Diuff would have been the player to replace.

Joe continued and talked about Jonas:

“He did all right. We just wanted to get all three strikers on and go 4-3-3, with Damien Duff breaking in there.”

“I thought Gutierrez played in and out. A lot of times he lost possession instead of playing the ball early.”

Joe’s right there in that Jonas didn’t have one of his best games for the club. Newcastle are showing some good and even conistent form at home, which is why we think we’ll beat Wigan Athletic next Saturday, but our away form is poor to say the least, and it’s now 9 league games without a win, away from home.

We’re not sure we can change that much at Chelsea a week on Saturday, after which we may know what will happen to the club, and that would be good.

Comments welcome.



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107 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Kinnear = Clueless if he thinks this.

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  • Darling27

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #2

    That’s the biggest load of horse s**t i’ve ever heard. Up and coming french u21 international and a washed up brazilian has been. Mmm i wonder who i should select???

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  • Geordie69

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #3

    Joe has lost the plot also. Lets have a simple vote!

    Bassong or Cacapa?
    Guthrie or Butt?

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  • Bart

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #4

    Why play Duff?
    Simply because he is Irish

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  • Darling27

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #5

    Bassong & Guthrie everytime. Young hungry and ambitious!!!

    Cacapa & Butt old slow and a waste of space!!!

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  • ryunufc

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #6

    bassong was not fully fit, from another interview

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  • Spyro

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #7

    JK is shooting himself in the foot here. Not only do i largely disagree, but as manager you DONT come out and say such things about your players. What is Bassong going to think when this gets around to him? Not exactly going to send his confidence through the roof is it? Bad move JK.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #8

    ryunufc- yes but he doesn’t mention that! He says Cacapa is the better player!

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  • Geordie69

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #9

    Why have Bassong on the bench if he aint fully fit? We do have decent defenders in our academy!

    Also another vote

    NZogbia or Duff?

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #10

    N’Zogbia by a mile.

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  • Heavy hitters

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #11

    that says it all about Kinnear………he’s an idiot.

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  • michael12

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #12

    Duff has been our most outstanding player in recent weeks.

    Also, what goes on behind the closed doors of training we do not know, perhaps Cacapa is world class in training and you can only hope he transfers this form into the game.

    After back to back wins, youth may get rash and think we are world beaters. An experienced head is needed under such circumstance. A perfect example is Arsenal. Youth let them down last season and again this season.

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  • Tore Torell

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #13

    Duff > Zogbia.

    N’Zogbia runs around like a headless chicken most games, he never knows when to play and when to keep the ball…

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #14

    N’Zogbia > Duff

    Duff is slow, cant cross, totally one footed, passes backwards or sideways all the time and cant/wont/scared to try and beat his man.

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  • neil snowdon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #15

    Dear Ed,

    Just to prove we all see games differently :

    On present form I would select Butt ahead of Guthrie, Duff in front of Zog and Bassong over Cacapa.

    Our away form has relegation written all over it. That’s why the home games are so crucial.

    Funny how things don’t change too much. I remember the sixties when we hardly ever won away from home. There again we had a fortress at St. James’!

    Regards,

    Neil

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  • michael12

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #16

    I think JK is showing his class as a manager.

    To say Cacapa is better is to pick him up after such a poor game. Bassong is young and has the confidence / arrogance that comes with youth. I is easy for him to take comments like this than had the remarks been the other way around.

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  • I dont think Kinnear actually thinks this. Cacapa will need to have a pick me up so to speak. Kinnear did this too make Cacapa feel better after that mistake. I think this is good management on his part. It will do Cacapa much better after all of these people tearing into him to know someone still appreciates him.

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  • Exactly my point Michael 😀

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  • Waddle's Mullet

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #19

    Something is going on.

    Big Al now 2-1 favourite with every bookie!!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #20

    ESAMIM – But it may dent Bassong’s confidence, so it is not great man management.

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  • Wouldnt bet on it 😉 Nothing is going to happen until we have new owners and the odds arent that good anyway.

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  • Waddle's Mullet

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #22

    10-1 yesterday

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  • iain

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #23

    why does managing nufc turn good managers into idiots ???

    cacapa has repeatadly cost us points since joining nufc bassong has had one bad game when played out of position in a derby.

    cacapa at his best might well be a better player than bassong curently is, but when does cacapa even manage a steady 90mins never mind a good run of games at his best.

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  • This statement has its ups and downs. Cacapa needs this vote of confidence but like most of you i would prefer Bassong to play and i wonder what Bassong will think about it. Its a good and bad comment to make depending on which way you look at it.

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  • Jon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #25

    I don’t understand Duff he’s always running towards the corner flag with the ball.

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  • Richard

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #26

    Bring back Taylor sharpish I’d say.

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  • BILLY-B

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #27

    Whatever- Cascapa was having a bad game and that showed up early on, there was plenty of time to change and put basson on- the decision not to cost us 3 points

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  • Spyro

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #28

    Problem with Duff is, he makes the right runs, but doesn’t know what to do with the ball when he has it. Same with N’Zogbia, but N’Zogbia is quicker, younger and works harder defensivly (nowadays).

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  • Karltoon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #29

    I just want a manager called Fatty.. It’s class

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  • Silence of the Llambias

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #30

    Cacapa may be the better footballer. I could see him playing DM but not Bassong. Bassong on the other hand is the much better defender. Quicker and stronger, as well as taller. Cacapa is easy to knock off the ball. Prem managers know this. Remember Benjani for Portsmouth last year?
    Lets hope Kinnear learns and quick.

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  • Rasko a.k.a Hadji

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #31

    This says all about JK…he doesn’t have faith in young players.
    Kadar should be concidered instead Cacapa never mind Bassong who is younger,taller,faster,stronger.
    Cacapa is ok for Seria A where even Rozehnal plays excellent in Lazio.

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  • CHUCK

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #32

    Yeah, not exactly a positive statement as far as Bassong is concerned, think Joe is a bit sensetive to criticism.
    But are`nt we all.
    Point is Cacapa had an awfull game, think everyone agrees there.
    Fact is no one had a great game, the team looked tired, but the game was there for the taking.
    I have to say though Duff did`nt have a particlarly good game, statements such as “he only gets picked because he is Irish” are racist in nature and I believe unwelcome on this site.
    And Tom Toon, to say Duff is slow and does`nt take on his man is a ridicules statement, thats his forte taking people on, who have you been watching ?

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  • AO

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #33

    Good result on sunday. Exactly how i predicted. Shame to see sunderland also in the bottom 3 but they have the finances to get out of it. Lets hope joe kinnear can attract some world class players on free transfers to get newcastle out of this mess. At least next season i will only have to travel that far up north once, to see boro.

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  • Karltoon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #34

    AO – T w a t o f f y o u s a d c u n t

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  • ScottyT

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #35

    hang on ppl. jst cos kinnear thinks that one player is better than an other dusnt make him an idiot overnight. i agree that coming out and saying things like this in public isnt great at all for player confidence (bassong) but u cant just turn on the guy. bassong shud have been given a chance i think thats clear.

    imo i hope he isnt given the job full time because of issues like team selection and the fact that he will be in a similar situation to roeder i think. roeder did well as caretaker but you could tell as soon as he got the job full time he wudnt be as good and he wasnt.. same goes for kinnear imo.

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  • Matt Lacey

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #36

    Duff is a much better choice than N’Zogbia at the moment. Zog’s attitude is awful, when it’s not going his way he tries to take on everyone and shoot from distance without passing. He can be a very good player when it suits him but he’s not the player we need at the moment. Duff’s workrate at the moment is commendable, his teamwork is good and he’s always looking to create.

    Cacapa was a bad choice for the match as we know, but hindsight is 20/20. Bassong has had limited first team experience and he too shows the same frailties as all former French league players, difficulty coping with the pace of the English game, he just hasn’t had a howler yet. Cacapa is a massively experienced footballer even if he doesn’t have the physical attributes Bassong does, with Coloccini alongside him it’s not a bad partnership in theory. I know he was at fault for the first goal but in his defence if he’d have been given a shout to leave it by Given or Enrique who were in a position to do so then the mistake would have never happened. Poor team communication let us down.

    The penalty was more Coloccini’s fault than Cacapa, he would have been better off running with Johnson rather than just sticking his foot straight in – he wouldn’t get anywhere, Coloccini is faster and stronger.

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  • Spyro

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #37

    Coloccini is not faster than Johnson, what a silly thing to say.

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  • ToonRich

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #38

    “After back to back wins, youth may get rash and think we are world beaters. An experienced head is needed under such circumstance. A perfect example is Arsenal. Youth let them down last season and again this season.”
    Michael, dont talk such rubbish man! If Arsenals youth are letting them down, why are they above us, just like last season???
    We need a manager that isnt scared to make changes when he can see things falling apart.
    Another thing, Cacapa maybe good in our training, but put him in a chelski, man u etc training and he’d be ripped to shreds – get where I’m going…
    Bassong for me please 🙂 & give Nzog his chance…

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #39

    ‘The penalty was more Coloccini’s fault than Cacapa’ Comment by Matt Lacey.

    ahahahaha, are you stupid?

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  • Sun'lun's Burnin'

    Nov 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #40

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4482154,00.html

    looks like the shearer story is gathering pace!! 6/4 big al next toon gaffer!! from 8’s

    usually money like tht means something!!

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