Kinnear Doesn’t Get The Credit He Deserves


As the uncertainty over the Newcastle club’s future continues, the Newcastle Board will need to make some tough decisions before January comes around, and the winter transfer window opens.

Steven Taylor – give Kinnear job until end of season

We have already lost one of our good players, James Milner, because of the turmoil at the club, and if we don’t move quickly we will probably lose others, and maybe even captain Michael Owen, if things don’t get sorted out quickly.

There are reports today that Aston Villa, who took Milner in August, may try to take advantage again of the uncertainty at the club, and try to sign Michael Owen in January.

Joe Kinnear remains in the hot seat and has done a terrific job so far, and if there are no firm developments on the sale of Newcastle soon, it may be best to install Joe as manager through the end of the season, and then allow him some room in the January transfer window to wheel and deal.

Ashley would then need to try to sell the club in the summer.

We’re very disappointed at Sunday’s result and performance, but it’s clear Joe went all out for the 3 points, but in this case his players didn’t deliver, and let both Joe and the Newcastle fans down.

Certainly Joe is very popular with both the Newcastle players and our fans, for the courage and skill he has shown at Newcastle’s helm so far, under extremely difficult circumstances, to say the least.

Steven Taylor, who we missed badly against Fulham, thinks Joe is the right man for the job right now, and should at least get the job through the end of the season:

“Joe doesn’t get the credit he deserves. I think he’s been fantastic since he’s come in,” “I think he gave a Press conference when he came in and some people didn’t like what they heard but he’s an honest guy.”

“He’s a man’s man. I don’t think he can win no matter what – even when we win games he doesn’t get the credit he deserves and that’s disappointing.”

“Of course I’d like to see him get until the end of the season at least. I think all the players would because we’re all behind him.”

The Newcastle players didn’t enhance Kinnear’s job prospects last Sunday, that’s for sure, when a victory at Fulham would have given us 3 wins in a row and 10th place in the league,

But they can correct that on Saturday if we can get back to our winning ways against Wigan at St. James’ Park.

And of course our chances will be greatly improved if Taylor, as expected, returns from injury to play alongside the great Fabricio Coloccini, in the center of our defense.

Steven added:

“It’s a game we need to win – we need to get back to winning ways, it’s as simple as that. There’s nothing else to it – we know what we have to do and that’s get the points.”

A win on Saturday is what we need, before we go to Stamford Bridge the following Saturday, although Burnley have proved it is possible to actually win there, as they showed last night, when they won on penalties in the Carling Cup, after extra time and a 1-1 final score.

Is it possible we could get a result at Chelsea?   Whoops – dreaming again.

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19 comments so far

  • ELFER

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #1

    Wigan will be the much harder game than chelski! Why? Simply becouse it’s a must win game! Against chelshki no one would expect us to get something, so pressure would be away from us which could lead to a good performance!

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  • adam

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #2

    i think we should keep joe until the end of the season and then get the best manager in the summer, because most clubs wont want to lose their own manager mid way through.

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  • bb

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #3

    This is where we go wrong ever time. Lets keep joe until the end of the season then try and get the best manager we can. This probabaly means the most high profile manager.

    Yes lets keep Joe at least until the end of the season and if he has done a good job considering what he has walked into this season lets keep him for the season after as well and give him a chance to build on the progress made.

    If we were to finish in the top ten this year it would beat most of the last few years and would be a great result considering everything that has gone on.

    If he does that then we should recognise that and keep him not look to hange things for the sake of it again.

    Joe is a decent football man more interested int he game and the team than his profile, a return to a Joe Harvey footballing man as manager would be ideal for me.

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  • listie

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #4

    A lot of the Villa sites and forums, are wanting Martins more than Owen, they are also moaning that they paid way over the odds for Milner and he is no where near as good as MON thinks he is.
    Every cloud has a silver lining 🙂

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  • ELFER

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #5

    As we think too, the money was too much for milner (as we could also seen so far). I hope we can win on saturday and I hope kinnear can stay for good until the end of the season!

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  • derekm

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #6

    the story goes that keegan was asked how much he valued milner at – he replied no more than 7 million. When villa came in at 12 they bit their hands off – this was in every way very very good business and bearing in mind the villa supporters comments now they’ve seen him close up so to speak at least this is one bit of good management the current team have shown!

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  • Alex

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #7

    spot on bb this continuing change of manager is the reason we are not a top 4 side . The last manager to take us to the top Sir Bobby was here for 5 seasons . Although i would not give a 5 year contract to Kinnear we should offer the guy the rest of this season plus next . Then if he took us into Europe in that time , offer him every 2 seasons a new contract . This would keep the stability in the club and keep every one sharp , knowing that every 2 seasons there would be a chance of a new manager if performances dropped . No more top wages being payed to a manager or “star”players who only want one last big pay day .

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  • ELFER

    Nov 13, 2008 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #8

    I must say (and I know this won’t be popular words to you) that some of the things the structure did weren’t that bad!! We have decent quality in the squad, altought it’s thin.

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  • steve

    Nov 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #9

    I’m not sure JK’s done a terrific job, he’s done okay but losses against teams in relegation form i.e. Sunderland & Fulham don’t bode well.
    It’s unlikely we’ll be able to attract a decent manager under the current regime / climate especially as it’s unlikley we’ll spend any money in Jan transfer window (unless we sell)
    We need to stick with JK until we have some clarity over the future, even then I think it’s going to be extremely difficult to attract a “good” manager.

    I’m not even sure we’ll be able to attract better players next year

    To win against Wigan we need to keep Jonas on the pitch, I was very surprised when Kinnear took him off at Fulham as he was our main threat (despite giving the ball away quite a bit)

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  • craig chisholm

    Nov 13, 2008 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #10

    well i still dont trust joe or think he is the rightm an for newcastle, however, with our players backing him i will also give him the benefit of the doubt for now and will start using my season ticket again this saturday – the first time since kk left. we still need to sell though to get rid of ashley and wise and lambiarse!!!

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  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 13, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #11

    No we cant beat chealsea or even get a result at the bridge. Why? Cause we cant beat fullham at the cottage. Simple.

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  • keith

    Nov 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #12

    I was sad to see milner go but i think we got a great price for him and not surprised we sold him in the end, my only disapointment would be we didnt re-invest it back in to the team but that might not of been from lack of trying, and i would give jfk a 3 year contact and let him get on with it, this nonsense of keegan coming is what it is nonsense!!

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  • Don

    Nov 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #13

    My thoughts for what theyre worth
    Keep Kinnear till the end of the season and we will be relegated, theres a reason he hasnt worked for so long, he is tactically inept, you can only get by on shouting your mouth off for so long.
    Butt ahead of Guthrie
    Duff ahead of Nzogbia
    Casapa ahead of Bassong
    whats the point of buying young talented hungry players and then playing slow past it ones

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  • craig chisholm

    Nov 13, 2008 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #14

    don…………..bang on the money mate. i think we may or may not go down but i am sure we will be in a relegation dog fight all season long. i think that we prob will go down as cum jan we will loose owen and replace him with some crap player from no-where for about a million. buying cheap and cheerful and kids is all well and good but there is no substitution for class, owen is a winner and our only world renowned name. ok, colo and martins are good but owen is the only one that is known all round the world. when he goes we loose a mssive player and others will let their heads go down and others will also bang in transfer requests too. by the end of january we will know the way its going to go, i suspect you are right though, we will drop down into the coca cola league. i think that the club is currently the worst ran club in the prem by a mile so perhaps we should go down, i dont know really. we certainly aint going to get any sucess in this current format thats for sure. and to think cashley was gobbing on about a top four, jesus.

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  • THE BEAT.

    Nov 13, 2008 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #15

    craig,you seem to be the only person on here that can see we are sleepwalking into a nightmare at NUFC.
    we are no longer being run like a prem outfit,rather like a championship club=
    amateur and greedy owner.
    director of football who has nowhere the knowledge of an average prem manager.
    a useless chairman.
    a championship manager in kinnear,who has always been fulltime,not that interim bollox.
    we also have fans who are to fickle and forgiving,which we always be our achilles heel.
    this means nothing will ever change because not many fans are willing to make a stand,and we are probably going to be relegated because of this.
    yesterday looked as though the conspiracy was in full swing,and all the main players have returned i see,wise,llambias,vetere,mark my words it wont be long before ashley is back in the stands wearing his shirt again.
    the club has never been up for sale,please i beg every fan to see through this rubbish and dont let ashley get away with this please!!!!!!!.

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  • BT9MAG

    Nov 13, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #16

    Theres no doubting we need to bring players in in January, and I think the who the players are and how they perform will determine JFK’s future…

    What does everyone think about putting in a cheeky bid for Nakamura from Celtic?

    I don’t know if they’d be willing to sell, or whether or not he is a bit too lightweight BUT he has a lot of the attributes we’re looking for…

    1) he is a setpiece specialist and can do it against the big clubs (the double against United in the Champions League)

    2) he is versatile – is left footed but can play on either wing or through the centre

    3) has a great eye for a pass and is constantly setting up goals with dinky little through balls for Celtic

    4) is a fan’s favourite for his work ethic and flair.

    He’s 30 which is getting on a bit, but look at Deco…

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  • BT9MAG

    Nov 13, 2008 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #17

    Also Craig and The Beat…You might be right, you might be wrong, but what do you propose we do?

    To take a stand – create a misspelt banner and boycott all the games? Stop supporting the club? Find another team who are run better?

    The fact is, regardless of where your allegiances lie with regard to management or players etc. We’re all NEWCASTLE UNITED supporters, and I’d say the majority of us would stay Newcastle United supports whether we’re in the Championship or the Champions League!

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  • craig chisholm

    Nov 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #18

    BT9Mag………….i wish and hope that you are right but i think that we will be in an even worse position in january end cos ASHLEY WILL NOT SPEND A PENNY! he will sell players though, he is pretty good at that. if we could not get our crap together for months and months over the summer, with a much more harmonius team inc a happier keegan, what chance do we have in the over inflated january sales with no time and no permanent management in place, also in a team with the star player more than likely gone too? er, just about zero, thats what. call me negative, i dont mind, i call it as i know is true. we are up s_ _ t creek if we keep on with this ostrich approach to our season. lets not forget that we have a prospect of forking out 8 million for jonas too soon. judgeing on ashleys spending so far – 1.8 million in 18 months on the team, that 8 million should cover all of our spending money for the next 7 years.

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  • Heavy hitters

    Nov 16, 2008 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #19

    Yes I thought Taylor would have something to say on the matter as usual !

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