Kinnear – We Could Have Had Four Home Wins


Joe Kinnear has today come out and said he wants to remain undefeated at St. James’ Park for the duration of his Tyneside tenure.

Joe Kinnear – 8 points from his 4 home games

Newcastle played awful in the first half on Saturday, and spent almost the whole of the second half trying to get back on level terms.

And then, with just 10 minutes to go, and all within 7 minutes we had gone ahead 2-1. But amazingly we then gave a late goal away to a 10 man Wigan side.  Not good.

We lost 2 points against Man City at home, when we deserved the win, and now we’ve lost 2 points when we had got our noses in front with one minute of normal time left.  But that’s all woulda, coulda shoulda – and water under the bridge now.

While Joe Kinnear is bitterly disappointed, he also takes some solace from the fact that Newcastle are now unbeaten in all 4 home games he’s been in charge of at St. James’ Park.

Joe talked to nufcTV today:

“It’s four games undefeated now at home, but really it should be four wins because we’ve conceded late equalizers against both Man City and Wigan,”

“We really have to make this place a fortress. We’ve taken eight points from twelve but if we’d won just one of those drawn games we’d be in 11th.”

“I want to stay undefeated for as long as I’m here.”

It’s a really difficult time right now for Joe and the players, not to mention the fans, because there are mounting problems that the Newcastle Board seems unwilling, or unable to step up to, and we think this calamitous state of affairs may now be starting to get to Joe and the players.

We need some communications from the Board, and dare we say it – some stability at our club.

Comments welcome.



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49 comments so far

  • Marty-trophy4toon

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #1

    Cannot blame JK for slack defending on the players part…….Yes cacapa shouldn`t have started the last game.
    Collo isn`t that good in the air as he has also been neaten loads of times already and was left for dead in a race with wigan striker on saturday.
    We should have more points and we should blame the players

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  • DanToon

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #2

    We wouls have if Kinnear wasen’t so poor at tactics!!

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  • simon376

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #3

    With better team selection in places, we should have had those wins.

    Good article about what Wheelan said to Ashley. Also talks about him ‘sacking’ Keegan, wonder if there is some truth in that

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #4

    Whelan is trying to put MA in more hot water, they do not like each other.

    Zoggy and Bassong to start the next game, drop the ineffective Duff, and Bassong has the pace our cb pairing of Taylor and Colo lacks.

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #5

    ———————-Given——————-
    Beye——–Colo———-Seb——–Jose
    ———————-Butt———————
    ————Guthrie——–Zoggy———–
    Gutierrez—————————Martins
    ———————Owen——————–

    4-5-1 that changes to 4-3-3 when we are on the counter attack

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  • keith

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #6

    dont understand why people dont like duff on here , duff is one of our better creative players, but back to sat i really think i should sue titus bramble, he cost me a couple of quid on sat and im sure while he was playing for us he cost me a couple more! surely that would be water tight in court 🙂

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  • NE1

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #7

    We could have won every games this season if we’d scored more than the team we were playing!!

    Bright JFK.

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  • kk forever

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #8

    fck off spyro u cockney wnker

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  • kk forever

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #9

    u rite kieth

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #10

    With all due respect Keith, Duff creates very little because of his indecisiveness. Most of the time he just tries to predictably cut in and ends up losing the ball by running head first into a defender. Zoggy can offer everything Duff can and more. He is younger, fitter and better at tracking back.

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #11

    Relax kk forever, i am not hitman and i have absolutely no intention of getting into a pathetic argument and macho contest with you.

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  • Sav

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #12

    No he’s not. Duffer covered miles on Saturday. Daft Dyeresque slip-up on the goal-line, but other than that, he played well.

    With Barton gone for 8 weeks, Ashley and Wise’s chickens are coming home to roost. Shoulda listened to

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  • Sav

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #13

    ….your manager, King Kev and invested sensibly.

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  • craig chisholm

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #14

    its jk’s fault we didnt win against wigan with his negative tactics against a knackered wigan team that gave its all mid week against arse team. leaving owen on the beanch was madness, as was leaving ameobi on and taking off jonas. zogs needs to play aswell. we have to play to our strengths esp in home games that should and could be bread and butter to us. as usual jk is talking too much. he says that owen is our best player nad then leaves him on the bench for 60 odd minutes. when he brough owen on it changed the entire dynamics of the game. everyone in our team raised the tempo. i think that ashley is telling jk to bench owen on purpose cos he wants to make it look like owen is no big deal and we can do it without him. the reason for this is cos he knows he is going to sell owen on a 3 million give away in january. he does not want to resign owne so ashley has no other option other than loose him for free at the end of the season. ashley wants us to go down, i know it makes no sense but why else is he running our club like a complete pig headed fool?

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #15

    What did Duff create in that match? Nothing. Check the highlights.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #16

    Agree with spyro’s team except swap Harper for Given…Out of position, again, for the 1st goal, it was well taken tho’, great strike!..& no attempt to dive & save the 2nd…Why?..
    …Yea, Duff was on the post, but Shay only had to fall left & he had plenty of time to see it comin’, ho’way man Shay, what’s happenin’?..

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #17

    How Spyro,
    Duff did set Ameobi up for his shot that Owen scored on the rebound…Maybe that’s a bit tenuous like!?!..

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  • 51times

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #18

    The problem with that team selection Spyro, is that with no big target man up top we’d need our players to pass it very well, which we never seem to do anymore. Our passing was horrible against Fulham and not much better against Wigan.

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  • sweendog

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #19

    craig chisholm .. is obvious that Kinnear is a yes man to ashley as this is his only chance of staying .. I think he’s done a very average job .. but leaving owen out is a f’in joke .. chelsea will be a huge test and we need a win from that .. can kinnear instill confidence for that game and play the best players.. time will tell but the jury is defo out ..
    ASHLEY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 51times

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #20

    sweendog – Chelsea away is a write off, we have no chance in hell.

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  • Kevin Nichol

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #21

    Damian duff has had a fantastic season so far for us! He has worked his socks off in every game and on saturday was shattered by the fianl whistle! I agree Nzogbia must be in the team; but it must be a left back for now. Everyone saw the difference it made to the team when he came on. For all that enrique has improved over the last few weeks he is a million miles away from being a premier league left back. He is to slow and his distribution is terrible. Nzobia may not be the best defensively but his pace makes such a difference coming from deep when were attacking.

    I dont know how many times i have said this but i will say it again; we MUST play with Ameobi or viduka when fit alongside either Owen or Martins! We need a big man upfront as an outlet; that gives the smaller man the space. With owen upfront on his own against chelsea he will not get a sniff with the likes of Terry/Carvalho/alex winning everything. WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH

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  • Kevin Nichol

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #22

    …To play a passing game which will enable us to get the ball forward to owen up there on his own…you need abit of class in the middle of the park to do that…

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  • Kevin Nichol

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #23

    51 times….Its refreshing to hear someone hit the nail on the head there; exactly what i have just posted. We must play with a target man as we do not have the quality/ability to pass the ball through to a lone front man; especially one who would struggle to hold the ball up against chelsea’s strong backline…

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #24

    Punk

    Sorry mate but if that is the best he did then that just aint good enough. Zoggy deserves a start now. He was unfairly dropped to the bench despite being one of our better players earlier in the season, and yesterday he played for only a short while and managed to get an assist.

    51times

    Fair point, but i just don’t see Ameobi doing anything against a very good Chelsea defence. Oba can’t be dropped because he can play crap for 89min and then create a goal from nothing, and Owen has surely now staked his claim for a starting place.

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  • 51times

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #25

    I suppose so. I don’t see us getting a goal against Chelsea and with their strikers in brilliant form, I think it’ll be a hard day.

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  • Silence of the Llambias

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #26

    Duff rarely creates anything, check the stats from all the games. Works hard and keeps the ball well. 6 touches then a negative pass or hopeful cross. Bit like milner really.
    As for Owen, I really fear for this club now. If the manager doesnt understand the importance of this player then we have problems. We got Owen because of a set of very unusual circumstances, ironically taken advantage of by our favourites FFS and Souness. He is the only top class player since Shearer to come anywhere near us, and here we are pratting him about and leaving him on the bench while we struggle at the bottom of the league. I cannot believe Kinnear would do this without influence from above. It doesnt make bloody sense.

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #27

    The thing about having a player like Oba in the team is, you never know if you are going to score, but at the same time you can never write him off, no matter who we are playing against. Puts a manager in a horrible position really lol.

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  • The Entertainers

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #28

    To be fair if Houghton was in charge, we would have rooted to the bottom on the league. I still think Joe has done quite well.

    He may not be the answer long tem, but i’m not going to start berating him, for the job hes done in the most unwanted position in the English top flight

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  • Spyro

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #29

    “Duff rarely creates anything, check the stats from all the games. Works hard and keeps the ball well. 6 touches then a negative pass or hopeful cross. Bit like milner really.”

    Perfect summation

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  • The Entertainers

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #30

    Duff certainly takes the pressure off our woeful defence and is one of the plus points this season.

    As you can see i’m easily pleased, might have something to done with what i’ve been watching.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #31

    Spyro,
    i did say it was ‘tenuous’!..
    …I just want us to play a regular team & stop choppin’ & changin’…Continuity required!..
    …But, tbh, Duff works hard & is havin’ his best spell with us…Zog, quicker but plays with his head down a lot, nice passer & does set stuff up, but it’s 6 & 2-3’s really…Zog did look good when he came on, maybe he’s gonna fight for a place…Yay!..

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  • keith

    Nov 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #32

    with chelsea coming up i would play 5 in the midfield i would play like so

    guthrie butt

    jonas duff zogs

    dont know how that is going to look but i honestly think duffs future should be down the middle and you could pick between own and martins to play as lone striker

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  • bowburnmag

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #33

    Our best hope for the Chelsea game is that it gets snowed-off, repeatedly.

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  • Ryan Peacock

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #34

    SIGN STEPHEN APPIAH

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  • THE BEAT.

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #35

    joe only got the job because he has known ashley for years.
    i have to agree with most comments on this board,joes negative tactics,bizzarre substitutions have made us drop points in recent games.

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  • THE BEAT.

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #36

    ryan took the words right out of my mouth,we have to do something like thet now.
    there is no way we can rely on guthrie and butt for the next couple of month.

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  • THE BEAT.

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #37

    bloody speelling mitakes!!!.

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  • THE BEAT.

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #38

    i dont believe it i,ve done it again.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #39

    Zog is workig hard for he place and is a far bettr player than Damien ‘By name and nature’ Duff.

    Even if Zog worked 300% he still wouldn’t get in because Duff is living off past glory’s and with Kinnear the fact he is Irish. It is a farce. Duff is a poor player.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 17, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #40

    We might be ‘happier’ with ‘appiah’…
    😀

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