No Damage Limitation For Joe At Chelsea


Joe Kinnear gave an interesting news conference today, before the visit to Stamford Bridge, and Joe is in no way looking for a damage limitation exercise in London on Saturday.

Joe Kinnear – going for a result on Saturday

Joe is a fighter, that’s one thing that’s become very clear in his time at the club, and he has also proved he can instill those fighting qualities into his players.

But on Saturday he will again be without Steven Taylor and Joey Barton, and by his own admission there’s quite a gap between our top players, and those who deputize for them when they are out injured.

Although Joe freely admits that Chelsea are a great side, he also believes Newcastle can instill damage of their own on other teams, especially with the speed we have in our ranks.

Joe was questioned by the local journalists today and said:

“You don’t get anything in football if you play with a fear complex.” “I have been concentrating on how we can play.” “We can hurt teams.”

“Who is to say we won’t get a result?” “It is a great opportunity for us.” “When I used to play I looked forward to these games.”

“I was right-back at Tottenham and George Best was a left-winger but I looked forward to the challenge.”

“When you look at what they (Chelsea) can do it can be frightening.” “But I won’t be going there thinking damage limitation.” “I am optimistic and I know we have players who can score goals.”

Joe was asked about whether Michael Owen is 100% fit, and he said he was, and all the nonsense, earlier in the week, about a rift between Michael and himself, was just that – complete nonsense.

“Michael is 100% fit now.” “He has been frustrated but he was injured when I came here to start with.” “He has got sharper and sharper.”

“He’s been working with a private coach.” “But that’s the sort of professional he is.”

Joe certainly seems fired up for the game on Saturday, and any result would be great for the team. We hardly expect any points from a Chelsea game away, after all.

We also hope to hear something following the game on the future of the club, and whether a sale is imminent to the two interested American investors.

If it is not, we would expect Joe to be appointed through the end of the season as manager, but we’ll be in a state of uncertainty even longer, and probably through to the summer, which is hardly good.

But the January transfer window will be very important, and hopefully we can strengthen the Newcastle squad significantly – first things first.

Comments welcome.



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42 comments so far

  • Matt

    Nov 20, 2008 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #1

    How on earth can we hope to strengthen the squad in January when we have no idea who will own us then? We have to work with what we have now and January window will be a bonus if anyone else comes in.

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #2

    matt
    we just have to hope everything is sorted by then but there have been no signs that it will be ill be very interested to see whay if anything happens on d-day
    these are bad times i know but lets try and keep our spirits up any way

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  • kk forever

    Nov 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #3

    JUST GOT TO HOPE FOR NEW OWNERS AND MANAGER SOON

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  • kk forever

    Nov 20, 2008 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #4

    CANT WAIT SEE THE PLAYERS WE BUY IN JAN IF THESE LOT ARE STILL IN CHARGE MITE GET A FEW FREEBIES FROM STOKE HULL etc

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  • beyethegreat

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #5

    the most important thing is though that we get the right owners and the right manager even if it does take a long time

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  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #6

    based on JK’s comments I predict a 1-4 walloping w/ Charlie getting on the score sheet

    hope I’m wrong (not about Charlie)

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  • MURPHy

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #7

    We’re bottom after this weekend! wooohoooo.

    We really are in a relegation fight this year, it’s painfull to say but we’ve had it.

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  • andyglostoon

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #8

    could it be van de vaart,henry,deco ,yakoubo or even berbatov !ohno deco’s told old for us and is past his best(people said !)dont embarass yourselves by speculating on who’ll be coming in jan ,remember the summer and last january and come down to earth

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  • O'Hurley

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #9

    okay- for the chelsea game, here’s my ideal lineup-

    harper
    beye bassong cacapa enrique
    geremi guthrie butt zogs
    smith
    ameobi

    I predict that with this combination, we will defeat chelski by the score of 14-0. HA!

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  • O'Hurley

    Nov 20, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #10

    But really-

    given
    beye bassong colo enrique
    jonas guthrie butt zogs
    martins owen

    I think we will at least do SOME damage. Let’s hope JK can get the boys fightin’!

    Howay the lads! (fingers crossed, like)

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  • nooh

    Nov 20, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #11

    we could do some damage if we believe in ourselves and believe that we are good team

    i hope we win 2-1 r at least a draw 2-2

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  • LATINAMERICATOON

    Nov 20, 2008 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #12

    I always like to see a manager go out and play to his teams strengths instead of concentrating on neutralising the other teams strengths. Its courageous and I think the best defence is attack as Chealsea are used to teams sitting back at the bridge and looking to frustrated. If we can pressure them off the ball and be willing to commit men forward when in possesion we may well nic something. I’m actually more optomistic about these “harder” games as we seem to always perform, whereas against lower teams we always get bad results.

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  • LATINAMERICATOON

    Nov 20, 2008 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #13

    o’hurley – if that is not a joke, does that mean you rate smith.The guy hasnt scored a goal in like 15 years. Good return from a striker!

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  • Reading Mag

    Nov 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #14

    has anyone heard this……Shearer with Ian Dowie , Rob Lee and another ex Soton old boy.

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  • Shot Bru!

    Nov 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #15

    Tim Flowers

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  • Tom

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Reading Mag

    So we are going to be managed by committee!? Lol. Thats a lot of cooks in the kitchen, so to speak.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM

    Comment #17

    Aye,
    someone i know said they’d read that yesterday!..’That’s all she wrote’…

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  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #18

    Big Talk from JK.

    We will be bottom…and you know what they say about being in the bottom 3 at xmas.

    Very disappointed that my club is just an ongoing joke.

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  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #19

    It’s not usually this close in the ‘bottom’ 14(?) as this season so far tho’ sirjay, is it?..

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  • kk forever

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #20

    ISINT XMAS 5 WEEK AWAY WE MITE LOSE AGAINST CHELSEA BUT WE CUD BEAT THE SMOGGEYS AND WILL BEAT STOKE

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  • kk forever

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #21

    WE CUD BE TOP 7 BY XMAS WITH 3 WINS

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #22

    a point at Chelsea is more than enough but if we win i’ll be shuoting toon toon black and white army all night

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  • kk forever

    Nov 20, 2008 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #23

    cant see us winning turkish but u never know

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  • Geordie69

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #24

    Theres no point in Shola against centre backs that will out muscle and out jump him. Pace is the only way thats why id go with my 3-4-3 and play
    GK Given
    RCB Beye
    LCB Bassong
    CB Colocini
    RWB Jonas
    LWB NZgogbia
    DM Geremi (Keep him away from set pieces)
    AM Duff
    LCF Martins
    CF Owen
    RCF Ranger

    This is our only chance of giving Chelsea a game. Lets play to our strengths and attack attack attack. Attacking is the best form of defence!

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  • toontony

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #25

    Kinnear was planning to see the sports retail tycoon following tomorrow’s game at Chelsea but their meeting has been put back because the sale of the club has not proceeded as smoothly as initially envisaged.

    “I said it [the meeting] would be after the Chelsea game but the goal-posts have moved since then,” said Kinnear, who is on a monthly contract and will now discuss a new deal following the visit to Middlesbrough a week on Saturday.

    “Every time it gets nearer to being sold there is a problem pops up, the credit crunch whatever else.”

    Gesturing to make a tiny gap between his fingers, he added: “They keep saying we are that much away but obviously we have not seen any finances coming up from the American group. That is all they tell me. Until something concrete comes up it is not sold.

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  • bowburnmag

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #26

    Who the heck are the players out in Italy that he’d be after, we wonder?

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #27

    toontony-where did you find that? it’s anything but encouraging to say the least mate.
    jasontoon-you’re right about the christmas assumption. we have a scrap on our hands no questions like. Throw the whole attractive things out the window. If shola wants to scuff a few more into the top of the net from the outside of his left peg, fine. We just need results, badly.

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  • O'Hurley

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #28

    Geordie69-

    I like your lineup. I hadn’t thought to put them in a 3-4-3. How about this- 3-5-2

    GK- Given
    RCB-Beye
    CB- Colo
    LB- Bassong
    LCDM- Butt
    RCDM- Geremi
    LWB- Jonas
    RWB- Zogs
    CAM- Duff
    RS- Owen
    LS- Martins

    I think this might be effective, especially with TWO DMs. Use Butt and Geremi to fill the gaps between Colo and Bassong, and Colo and Beye, and use Duff to be your go-to man in the center to set up plays for Owen and Martins. Attack from the center AND the wings equally. Wouldn’t have to rely on so many crosses (theoretically). Hopefully with a bit of finesse, our large midfield with our attacking front would be able to make some headway and put some much needed pressure on Chelski’s defense. Maybe this would throw them off their game a bit. Certainly nobody would expect that out of us. Of course- wishful thinking, mates! I’ve been playing too much FIFA:)

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  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Nov 20, 2008 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #29

    Chelsea will murder us with 3 at the back!!!! Playing 3 at the back against a team with the attacking talent that Chelsea have is making the moutain even higher to climb before we’ve even kicked a ball for me. Its inevitable that the midfield will give the ball away, leaving 3 at the back to cope with chelsea’s forward 3 , being joined by players such as Deco is mental, surely?

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  • Keegan Jnr

    Nov 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #30

    Totally agree, 3 at the back is suicide. I can’t even remember the last time any premiership club has used that tactic. Winning is a long shot at best, but i think if we are to stand a chance we need limit chelsea’s chances as much as possible. I agree with the comments saying we need to play attacking football but i also believe we need to maintain a formation with four at the back.

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  • LATINAMERICATOON

    Nov 21, 2008 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #31

    I still remember people on this site, when we were linked to deco in the summer saying. Overated! past it!… I think the same things have also been said about ronaldinho in the past. Begs belief! look at deco now. Some of us need to really get are thinking caps on!

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  • 51times

    Nov 21, 2008 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #32

    To be fair Deco really did look like he was done when playing for Barca last season.

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  • Spyro

    Nov 21, 2008 at 2:45 AM

    Comment #33

    Deco’s first few games at Chelsea were class but since then he has been average. He is being overhyped and i still do not think he is as good as some people say he is. He is a lazy player who will only fit into a team with a top DM to cover up for his lack of tracking back.

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  • Sav

    Nov 21, 2008 at 4:55 AM

    Comment #34

    Joe rightly reckons Trappatoni has been disrespectful about touting Shay. But what must he feel about his treatment by FatAsh. ‘The goalposts have moved again’ a euphemism for ‘they’ve cancelled the meeting they promised without telling me a thing and now I look like a right fool having announced it to all and sundry.’
    Surely, even a grateful interim manager like Joe deserves better and for that matter, so do the fans and the players.
    Its no way to run a club, although we are all becoming accustomed to lies and broken promises from the current regime. Whether the club is sold in the meantime or not, JFK needs to have the authority to discuss contracts with current players and have some kind of budget for January reinforcements. If that is interrupted by a sudden sale, new management and new targets, so be it. Than pay Joe off until May. I think he has earned it and if the club is not sold, plans have to be in place.
    A further shameful example of disrespect and poor management by the interim owner.

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  • ELFER

    Nov 21, 2008 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #35

    So the talks are not this weekend…

    In the best outcome this means we are close to sell, but my opinion is rather we will not manage to sell 🙁

    There are various reports, that Kinnear has offers from italy (after his spell ends after the boro game).

    Some papers say we are lining up 2 players on loan which are both rated around 10m £.

    Independent goes further and says that shearer already lines up his stuff (with some interesting names that worked already with him and sir bobby robson). But this is rather not true, althought we do not know what’s exactly going on behind the scenes.

    Disrespectful to threat the fans like this, Mr. Ashley!!

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  • Geordie69

    Nov 21, 2008 at 7:37 AM

    Comment #36

    Aye you say playing at 3 at the back is suicide but attack is the best form of defence. Id rather lose 5-4 than 5-0! Playing our normal formation means we are going to be on hte back foot for 90minutes! Playing 3-4-3 with Geremi protecting our 3 cd’s means Chelsea couldnt adopt there normal plan. Also could you imagine the excitment our fans would have instead of just waiting for Chelsea to score and then praying we could keep the score down.

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  • TooKing

    Nov 21, 2008 at 7:42 AM

    Comment #37

    Good mentality by Joe but we will still be destroyed…….. 🙁

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Nov 21, 2008 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #38

    ——————–Given—————-

    —Beye——Colo——Bass——Nzog

    ——–Jonas—–Guthrie——-Duff–

    ——-Owen—–Ameobi——-Martins

    This is our best formation for the game with Nzogbia providing crucial attacks and Beyes crosses!

    Joe will play

    ——————Given——————

    —-Beye—–Colo—-Bass—–Enrique

    —-Jonas—Guthrie—Butt—-Duff—

    ————–Ameobi—Martins——–

    Joe is too soft and wont kick Ameobi,Duff,Butt out of the team when there are perfect replacements!

    When evrybodys fit this is our perfect formation which looks like we might have to wait until febuary for!!

    ——————Given——————

    Beye——Colo——Taylor—–Bass—

    ——Jonas——Barton——-Nzogbia

    ——Viduka—–Owen——–Martins

    we won nearly all our games with keegan like this except without Barton, Jonas and Bass!

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  • ronaldeano

    Nov 21, 2008 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #39

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/nov/21/premierleague-newcastle-sunderland

    Looks like there is no deadline tomorow.

    Kinnear recons he is happy with his month by month contract

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  • kk forever

    Nov 21, 2008 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #40

    £20m Serie A pair top Joe’s wish-list Journal Live – Newcastle United 08:46
    WOT A LOAD OV RUBISH .he sed it to keep the fans quiet

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