It looks like Joe Kinnear is getting ready to wheel and deal in the January transfer market, as he gets his list of players ready for Dennis Wise.
Joe Kinnear - wheeling and dealing in January
Kinnear admits that he will probably need to sell players before buying new ones:
“I’ve got my eye on two or three players that we need,” “Dennis has the task of getting them, provided we get the finances.”
Kinnear will obviously be hoping that any transfer dealings in January will be based on his own recommendations to Dennis, but we don’t know how much truth there were in the rumors that players were bought and sold without then manager Kevin Keegan’s knowledge in August.
And we also expect that some players who were close to coming through the door at the end of August may also finally come to the club.
We understand Per Ciljan Skjelbred was all set to arrive on the last day of the transfer window, but after the uproar between Keegan and Llambias had erupted, that move was summarily halted by Keegan, to the dismay of the 21 year-old Norwegian.
But news is being reported that depending on some ownership issues, Newcastle may finally be bringing in the youngster – who of course is already an avid Newcastle United fan – which cannot be bad.
Joe mentioned about his length of stay and admits he thought the club would have been sold by now, but it seems as his time at the club lengthens, his enthusiasm also increases.
Joe continued:
“I didn’t think when I first took the job that I would be here this long to be honest,” “At the time it was clear they had somebody who was going to buy the club within eight weeks, so we didn’t get down to talking about finances and stuff for players.”
“But now, because it seems the club won’t be sold until after Christmas, I’ve got my eye on two or three players that we need.”
“I’ve identified them and Dennis has been given the task of going out and getting them, provided we get the finance.” “Dennis has also been given the task of removing some of the players that I feel are not good enough for the club.”
“Mike has told me to keep the money I get for selling any players and invest it back into the team.” “I am to work on the assumption that if there is somebody I desperately want, then it is possible he would put his hand in his pocket, providing the sale of the club is not imminent at the time.”
Players Newcastle have been linked with up till now include John Arne Riise, Stephen Warnock, Denilson, German under-21 international striker Ashkan Dejagah, 20 year-old Watford midfielder John Joe O’Toole and Per Ciljan Skjelbred amongst others.
It seems Joe’s priorities are a left-back, center-back, a central midfielder and maybe a right winger.
Players who could be moved out include Claudio Cacapa, Alan Smith, Jose Enrique, David Edgar and Xisco.
Even Charles N’Zogbia may be sacrificed to fund new players coming in – although we hope not, and what the status of Michael Owen will be come February 1st, is anybody’s guess.
What do you think?
Comments welcome.
192 responses so far ↓
1 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Keep Smith, he will come good and if he doesn’t impress sell him in summer!
We can probably get 12mil for Nzogbia which is probably enough to buy 2 of those players!
We dont need a right winger though really, If Charles goes and Duff got injured we would be screwed as we’ve seen with what happened when Enrique got injured
2 AndrewNUFC // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:48 PM
1st
3 beyethegreat // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:50 PM
look whos bitter
http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s379/st136475.htm
4 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM
I also think we shouldn’t sell Owen in January as it will give the new owners(hopefully) time to talk to Michael about his contract to and if he was kept a run of 5-6 games all wins could easily get us into europe and that may make him stay!
Howay the lads!
5 toon mad tom // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM
i love this site
6 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Andrew thats just pathetic now
7 Tom_Toon // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:54 PM
We should NOT sell Xisco or Enrique.
Players to sell:
Carroll, Edgar, Harper (for his own good and Krul’s), Smith, Cacapa and Owen (if he doesn’t want to signa new contract).
8 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:55 PM
So let me get this straight, MA doesn’t want to properly fund us in January because of the imminent sale, yet he still wants to profit from ticket and shirt sales in the mean time? Everyone was right, he is a fat, greedy prick.
Players likely to be sold in Jan because of how much money they will bring in.
Zog – 6million
Xisco – 4million
Given – 7million
Owen – 4million
and i bet we end up spending half of that on incoming players and the rest will go to MA.
9 AndrewNUFC // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I would like Warnock,Skljebred and Denilson(loan). We should keep Enrique and i hope Charlie doesn’t leave.
10 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I only want Owen gone out of all of those because he doesnt want to be here. Also, i dont feel he doesn’t compliment our other strikers. He is too one dimensional.
11 JOOO // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:02 PM
We need to bring in about 8 players in Jan they should be
Joao Moutinho
Miguel Veloso
Angel Di Maria
Diego Buonanotte
Ignacio Camacho
Micah Richards
Thomas Kahlenberg
Erik Pieters
12 ELFER // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I don’t want to loose zoggy, but if we are honest, it’s the same situation like with milner…they aren’t that good and if someone really again wants to spend that much money I would let him go and get in 2 young wingers for that money!!
We need a strong holding midfielder (appiah?) and of course a left back to challenge enrique (I haven’t given up on him yet). All ther rest will be some youngsters which do not directly improve us I think…
13 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:05 PM
HOW CAN OWEN SIGNE A CONTRACT IF HE HASENT BEEN OFFERED ONE
14 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:09 PM
ELFER WE SHUD ONLY SELL PLAYERS IF WE CAN REPLACE THEM WITH ONES THAT ARE BETTER BUT WE WONT LOOK AT THE MILNER SALE
15 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:14 PM
ashley has shown his true colours everybody can now see what this greedy man is all about.
16 ed_speed // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Is there any tottenham fans out there? i have a bar mitzvar coming up, and i would like some first hand experience, on how to handle the situation.
regards,
ed
17 ed_speed // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM
And ed (harrison, not speed) why the hell do you want to get rid of enrique? not so long ago you wrote an article saying what a good player you thought he was, and how he is definatley a futre talent. to me he is one already. Enrique is a good player, everyone just jumps on the band wagon when it comes to critising him.
regards,
ed
18 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM
ashley now has the manager to run the club in the penny pinching manner he has always wanted.
if joe wasn,t in football ashley would have him running one of his stores.
i knew all this was coming,i said on a earlier thread,where mike ashley is concerned be prepared to be underwhelmed.
mike ashley has turned newcastle united into one of his sweat shop stores.
19 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:21 PM
xisco cant be sold, fifa regulations that players cant be transfered twice in 1 season, and hes looked liek a decent by…waats happend to him? e injured or summit? or is jk bein an even bigger +wa+ than i thoguth he was…n should sell enrique or zog, if anyones to be sold it should be a) either big money players who we have cover for, e.g. given, owen,
or b) dead wood such as butt, viduka, smith
if we sold all of those, we could have between 20 – 25m
which could in turn buy some players we could need…bastian swiensteiger (keegans main target int he summer)
skjelbread
baptista
set of youngsters
20 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:24 PM
i,m so f***ing angry.
21 Ben_BKK // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:28 PM
JOOO, this is real life, not Football Manager… have you ever even seen a picture of half of those players you mentioned, let alone watched them play?
22 Ben_BKK // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Paul – yeah I seem to remember there being something about Xisco being injured, may have been a hamstring problem, not sure though.
23 JOOO // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Ben_BKK
They are real targets that we could get and they would be good.
24 Jonny // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Spyro – yep youre right, basicall what kinnears saying is he will be getting NO money from ashley to spend unless he sells, what a fat, greedy tosser he is. proof if anyone needs it that the only thing hes interested in is himself.
25 beyethegreat // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM
jooo
would bouanotte be to week for pl he makes modric look like the terminator
26 magpie6699 // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM
ed speed,
Not all Tottenham fans are Jews and there are Newcastle fans who are “Yids” you know!
So what do you want to know about Barmitzvahs?
27 MDS // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Anyone else find this a bit disheartening? I read this to mean that Kinnear will have to creat his own transfer kitty from sell-offs. You simply aren’t going to get much money for Cacapa, Geremi, Edgar and Smith. You can’t sell Enrique because even if you bring in a LB you still need depth. Enrique has shown me enough potenial as a young player to keep him.
No way Kinnear gets 20 million to spend without selling Zog and maybe Harper. Why would ashley pony up cash if he’s trying to sell the club? I’m afraid we’re looking at minor dealings in January and a mid to mid/low table finish.
28 toon // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:48 PM
sypro i usually agree with what you say but i dont think given will be going anywhere, and even if he did it would be for alot mor than 7M
29 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM
mds, who would your ratehr sell,
a) given, cant take being dropped, wants silverware by the end of his career and lets mroe goals in, for 10m
b) harper who is jsut as good, supports the toon, and elts less goals in for 3m?
i know what makes sense
30 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Luck isn’t exactly on our side is it.everytime we get a good result, the teams around us eithe rmatch ir or better it. We are just above relegation zone now, sigh
31 JOOO // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:52 PM
beyethegreat
Yeh bt he is amazing
32 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Paul- None, we will get silverwear maybe even this season(FA cup)
33 ed_speed // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Given is better than harper, although mot by much, maybe 12-14%?
regards,
ed
p.s ‘mon the lads
34 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:07 PM
i’ll scream if we sell enrique and or given in Jan. I also dont want to see owen go,but if he’s not even going to be offered a new contract, then obviously he’ll move on and there’s nothing we can do about that, and no one to blame but the current regime managing the club.
The sad fact is, we will ship off good players to raise funds and the targets to replace them will be unrealistic or unreachable. either that or like has already been said we’ll only go for a few and Ashley will pocket the rest of the cash. sad times!
fact of the matter is a few shrewd additions in Jan along with the squad we already have could help us go a long way in surviving this year.
35 MDS // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM
@Paul:D
I have read elsewhere that Given has been inquired about in the pst and didn’ want to go. Personally, if you were offered 10M plus you would have to consider it. I just think it’s more likely that we sell Harper and promote Krul to #2
36 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:11 PM
(Ross)- would you scream if we sold Enrique for Warnock?
37 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Turkish mag-Warnock is 26, and although he’s a decent player, i really dont know if i’d want to replace Enrique, who at 22 still has years to learn and could very well tun out to be far better than warnock. I’ve said it before and i will again, fair enough he makes mistakes but its a learning curve, and if we’re willing to give up on youngsters after a year, i think we have a serious problem.
38 TOON LAD // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM
JOOO
HALF THOSE PLAYERS WOULDN’T COME
WAKE UP MATE ?????
39 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:23 PM
PAUL D SEE U ON ABOUT GIVEN AGEN
40 Silence of the Llambias // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I understood Owen had been offered a contract but has declined to accept it for now. Hes keeping his options open, just in case the club gets sorted out. Fat chance!
We are watching the Ashley plan. It involves everything happening at a second rate level. This bloke cant bear to take a loss on anything, will never risk spending on top class players. He thinks in a penny pinching way and the longer stays, the more we will resemble the likes of Bolton, Fulham, and….Wimbledon. Will we ever go to places like chelsea feeling on equal terms? or will we carry on feeling thankful if we haven’t been stuffed by them?
41 JOOO // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:24 PM
TOON LAD
Which ones wouldn’t come??
42 beyethegreat // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:29 PM
turk mag
lol win something
43 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:30 PM
(Ross) fair point but what if Enrique didn’t tun out like we all hope, it would be a massive massive blow to the club and we could even get Warnock as cover though but i reckon at 22 he’s in his last year to prove a point, do you remember Oba at 22? top class!
44 Turkish Magpie // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Beyethegreat-Ever the optimist
45 beyethegreat // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:41 PM
turk mag
that what being a toon fan is about isnt it
though imagine if we did it would be the perfect fairytale story(which means that since our club is all about shocks it could well happen)
1 kk resigns
2 mass protests
3 ashley decides to sell the club
4 jfk appointed
5 lose to sunderland
6 new owners come in
7 full time menager apppointed
8 what ever happens between now and the f.a cup final
9 after 39 years 10 months and 2 weeks(about) the toon win a trophy
10 mass celebration in newcastle like the epl has never seen
11 victory parade
imagine if that was to happen
but it wont
46 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:42 PM
kk: I think that the real ed speed is back
Ed Speed: Were you taking the p1ss last night or was it someone using your PC?
PS: No Geordie would say ‘mon the lads.
PPS: Barmizvar? Are you a Red Sea pedestrian?
47 beyethegreat // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:42 PM
thinking of that has cheeered me up
48 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Ed Speed: Are you kosher?
49 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:45 PM
ISAAC I THINK U RITE AND IT MITE HAVE BEEN NICK COTTON THE COCKNEY
50 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Re given bashing. I remember fans chanting “super …. dooper …. Cooper”. ffs. We don’t know when we’re well off.
51 KK FOREVER (Ross) // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:51 PM
turkish mag-it could have been oba at 19 or 27, no one has a clue how old he is! haha
21 or 28, 21 or 28, 21 or 28 OBAFEMI MARTINS
52 AndyNUFC // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Does anybody else think Martins is getting a lot worse, and doesn’t look interested?
53 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM
ISAAC PAUL D AND PUNK SKUNK HAVE BEEN SLAGGING HIM ALL DAY MATE
54 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM
The only player we have who looks interested is BARTON and that’s just because he owes the club big time.
We need a charasmatic manager to bring some fun back to SJP. JK is little more than a jobbing coach. He’ll do well after this gig. He can’t fail really.
55 ed_speed // Nov 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM
I’m kosher, yes. And i wan”t onlinw last night, so it wasn’t me typing last night.
regards,
ed
56 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM
kk: Goalkeepers don’t lose form until they are 40! Given has seen it all. Hope he stays but if I were him I’d be off. btw I can’t work out Punk Skunk. He’s all over the place sometimes. But then again, he lives in Camden ….
57 Nobby'sDad // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM
So Kinnear has to sell before he can buy.Ashley is a complete rip-off merchant! What happened to the £12 million we supposedly got for Milner? That’s not all been spent yet.
Ashley is actually in a bit of a quandary. If Owen goes (a given) then any prospective buyer would reduce their offer – obviously the Toon are less attractive without him. If he doesn’t spend we’ll struggle which again makes us less attractive – and finally if it’s no more positive come Feb then I think lots of people will withdraw from the option to buy next years season tickets (I’ve got 3 and won’t renew and loads of people around me in the ground are saying the same.
Why buy a season ticket you can now get seats almost anywhere in the ground on the net each week – if Ashley doesn’t sell I predict crowds will be down to 30,000 next year because people will simply not want to give him any more cash – and who can blame them – the man’s a Cockney Cowboy!
58 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Ed: We think it was a hammer, but I’m watching yer grammar.
59 Nick Cotton // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 PM
kkf were’nt me pinchin names, watch as soon as i sign on it’ll start. ps Hammers wayyyhayy v the makkems maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
60 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Nobbys dad: He’s in the clag right enough. If we go down he will lose 50%. If he spends in Jan it could be money down the drain. It’s a tuff call but he’s clueless. Absolutely clueless. I hate him!
61 powellstoon // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Luis Saurez of Ajax would be great siging
62 powellstoon // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Luis Saurez of Ajax would be great signing
63 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Cotton u Rs! We know that you’re already signed in under another id.
kk: I’ll leave you to sort him out. Laters m8.
64 Nick Cotton // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:15 PM
isaac you are well named i have been the victim you pric- check the last posts you makkem muppet.
65 Nick Cotton // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM
isaac spyro ed peed and tom toon i give you the same person neeaaargh.
66 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:20 PM
isaac,if your a timbuktu how is your surname hunt and not a aramaic or semetic name.
67 toon head // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:21 PM
id like to see gattuso an riquelme! maybe vargas aswell im being a little optimistic though
68 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:21 PM
kk forever, i aint bin slaggin given, hes a great keeper, im just sayin hes not as good as peopel think he is, and i wasnt on about given there iw as on about the financial side fo the transfers in respect to the players value, just happened to be the goalkeeping are, if it had been strikers i woulda said the same about owen….ect
69 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM
can,t see joe getting anyone to come to the club to be honest.
70 Toon Olly // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM
the beat, thats a joke name mate!lol
71 Phil,Gosforth // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM
I really fear that we may be totally funked if MA doesn’t sell and sell before Jan.
Spyro,I’m glad to notice that you’re seeing the light about Jabba The Hutt!He’s a complete tw*t.
No way is he putting any money in,he never did and never planned to.
£20m a year from his own pocket my ar*e.
“I will no longer subsidise NUFC” – when did you start you fat fu*k?
If we are stuck with him,then we are DOOMED.The league is too close,no completely rubbish teams this year (well bar the goons down the road
).
Squad is too thin to start off loading people who can play like Zogs.Get rid of Smith,Cacapa,Xisco(if Joe ain’t gonna play him),not that there’s any guarantee MA won’t just pocket the cash like the Milner deal.
If Shay goes there’ll be a riot!
Owen needs to stay if only for the image of a big club with big players.
I’d rather there was NO transfer window at all,coz I don’t see the cash re-invested in playing staff,just in nights out @ Grosvenor.
72 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:27 PM
so who is who on this umbilical cord i,m confused.
73 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:29 PM
YEAH OK AND WHICH FOOTBALL CLUB DO U MANAGE PD
74 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:29 PM
well said phil,the way we are being run smacks of second rate from top to bottom we stink of the championship.
75 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM
we are becoming no better than stoke etc.
76 ed_speed // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM
There only one wd speed. always has been, always will be, and there always will continue to be, one ed speed.
peroid.
regards,
ed
77 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I really hope we don’t let Zoggy go, it sickens me we woud keep pushing 30year old Duff, over early 20’s N’Zogbia.
Plus Zoggy has scored against the mackems, Geordie for life.
78 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM
scraping winnits from the bog bowl is easier than trying to get rid of ashley.
79 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM
todd,therin lies the problem charles will fetch a hansome price,i reckon there could be a little bit of a bidding war for his services.
i dont want anyone to leave though.
80 toonoholic // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM
doesnt make sense to buy players if kinnear is not here in january. else it wld be the revolving band wagon and blame game again.
also if we sell players FIRSTLY BUY REPLACEMENTS FOR THEM and then think of extra players
if we sell 3 players and buy 3. we are still the same as before. somebody teach this equation of 3-3=0 to mike ashley.
strangely i have a feeling ashley will splash the cash! go fast ash
81 Nick Cotton // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM
so ed peed explain why you nicked my id then.
82 Ryan Peacock // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM
skejlbred,riise and denilson
then we will be sorted.
83 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:41 PM
In terms of squad quality we are on the same level as Blackburn, Sunderland, West Ham, Fulham & Wigan. Stoke, Hull, West Brom, & Bolton all have worse squads than us, but Boro, Tottenham, Everton, Portsmouth, Villa etc all have better squads. The team we have right now deserves to be around 13th even if our players are performing consistently, and that is a sad thing to accept. We need an investor who truly wants to see us become a top team. It becomes more apparent almost every week that this was never MA’s intention.
84 Toon Graeme // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Had to post on that Chelski link sight. Bunch of tools. Winge then dont win. Crap crowd and cant even beat a bottom of the league team which we are at the moment (he says).
The whole situ pisses me off to be honest and just want it sorting.
What if we cant sell and no one wants to buy?
85 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM
did mike ashley just want to act the big s***e in a small pond?
86 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Arsenal have always been a fan of his haven’t they? maybe that could help in a deal for Denilson, which i never think will happen.
What happened to getting that Arda Turan guy? He was great at the Euro’s. And i think the Turkish season is quite short?
87 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:45 PM
does ashley want to let the situation fester to a point that we,ll beg him to come back?
88 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:46 PM
were we ever in for turan?
89 hitman // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:48 PM
spyro,i told you ashley was a greedy fat tw’t back in august,glad you have changed ya tune
90 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Seemed to be plenty of talk about him, i thought it was going to be him or skejlbred. Got neither.
91 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM
I remember the talk being either him or skejlbred, got neither.
92 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:52 PM
trouble is on hear some people will call you a mob member for disagreeing with the ashley regime.
93 anyanyanyo'brien // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:55 PM
we should buy fabien delph from leeds as a replacement for the ageing butt.
94 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:56 PM
troube was todd we were linked with everyman and his dog=
bafetimbi gomis
achille emana
arda turan
gokhan inler
pablo aimar,apparently his wife put the block on it.
zigic
eren derdiok
to name a few.
95 ObaMartins // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:57 PM
I can still recall the Whole first team squad being put up for sale…You Honestly think this has changed ? get real i can see us losing Michael Owen then we will be in the Championship.
96 hitman // Nov 23, 2008 at 9:59 PM
the head line on this thread should say dennis wise ready to wheel and deal.
97 ObaMartins // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM
but we don’t know how much truth there were in the rumors that players were bought and sold without then manager Kevin Keegan’s knowledge in August. <<<<ED you have some inside Knowledge or just Spouting the BS of Ashley, Wise Kinnear !!!!please let us know
98 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM
dennis the menace is defo running the show.
99 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:03 PM
i think dennis and tony were too slow on the uptake while trying to sign players.
i think they missed out on amir zaki also.
100 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Wasn’t sure about Aimar, surely Collo and Jonas and persuade some Argentinians to come save the day?
101 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:07 PM
i watched a good argie player for independiente nicola frutos,dont know how old he is though.
102 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM
nicolas frutos,he is playing for anderlecht .
he,s a big target man who is good on the deck,could be a goer.
103 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I’m not going to get excited about Jan transfers, nothing usually happens anyway. Let-alone when you have no cash.
Ohhhhh boy.
I like JK though, Newcastle need a manager who tells it how it is.
104 k k forever // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:15 PM
TODD HAVENT U CLICKED YET JK SEZ WOT ASHLEY TELLS HIM
105 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM
nicolas frutos 27years old 6ft5,check him out on youtube as a striking option if we were to sell a striker.could probably get him for next to nowt.
106 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM
How’s your caps going?
na… don’t agree, some of his substitutions have been questionable, but he has done a good job in the time he’s been here, and the task he’s had to deal with.
He’s not the answer obviously, but if he was out the door tomorrow i would say fair play to him.
107 Alex // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Hope we get Skjelbred and move for Mcfaddon , Distin & Warnock . Sell Caroll , Smith , Cacapa and Ameobi to help fund the moves for the others .
108 Xisco Stu // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Lua Lua, Kadar and Ranger should just be promoted and then get in a decent CM. If Appiah proves his fitness we could have him and spend absolutely nothing, even though we should have at least £8m in the coffers anyway after the summer transfer dealings.
Unless Ashley could have been talking out of the wrong end again? Surely not?
We need a Randy Lerner/Chris Mort type combo to takeover the club if only to clear the dirty air. A little communication and some common sense was all that was required form the current regime, but that was clearly too much to ask.
109 hitman // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:22 PM
wait untill the dwarf gets his players in and not joes,odds on joe will let us fans know..
110 hitman // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:27 PM
that hes bee screwed
111 Bob // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Nicolas Frutos is a real talent but he is so injury prone it is unbelievable. Try and find his injury history somehwere, it is worse than Owen’s – no joke.
112 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:36 PM
bob didn,t know that i based my opinions on watching the lad in the clausura in argentina,just found out he was playing in europe.
113 Jóhann // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Sell Given and give Harper the place he has deserved for years. All around he´s a better keeper than Given. Just look at the stats. The stats tell everything
114 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:42 PM
the only edge i would give harper over given is his kicking game is better than given,s.
115 Nick Cotton // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:42 PM
No answer ay speed thought not.
116 TOON LAD // Nov 23, 2008 at 10:47 PM
of subject.
did anyone watch
the hatton fight f###ing
brilliant
117 Leo // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM
i used to thnk that givens kicking was rubbish but recently he has improved it, well vastly upon last season and that is due to his groin not being bad or not quite fully healed
its a difficult one really because i like krul and it would be rubbish to loose him, would rather get a bit of money for given or harper
we need central midfielders appaih would be good but we need younger players too like cijan because he is a toon fan
we also need a centre back, someone like samba would be awesome and a left back, either distin (always liked him since his spell at the toon) or warnock
if owen goes we need a striker too
118 GeordieJayne // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Thin squad why don’t we just sell some of our better players and get in championship players that will do the trick and keep us up. we ain’t gonna atract any decent players and Cashley aint gonna spend.
Cashley is an ASS and need a good kick up it.
119 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM
shame about frutos if he,s injury prone because i rate the bloke think he could do a job in the prem.
120 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:19 PM
ebenezer ashley has brought a whole new meaning to xmas and scrooge ffs.
121 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM
bah f***ing humbug!!!!!!.
122 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:26 PM
any the fact he lets less goals in, his distribution is better..his command of the area is better…the defence plays better, his arial ability is better, and hes a toon supporter who has showd more commitment than any newcastle player ever…how many other players have bin happy on the toon bench for most of thier career…would even say most loyal and commited player in the world ever unless anyone can think of anyone else
123 Isaac Hunt // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:27 PM
The beat @ 66
“isaac,if your a timbuktu how is your surname hunt and not a aramaic or semetic name.”
So yer mam called you ‘the’ huh? weird first name that.
124 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM
and secondly the england team would be better off because harpers the best english keeper by a mile and would be number 1, instead of good old calamity james…the useless to$$er
125 Todd // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Paul, he’s good, and he will hopefully be remembered for really standing up in the 07/08 season for digging in at the end of the season to help keep us safe.
But Given’s current form is incredible, close to the form of his life. And he can lead.
126 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM
sorry todd, but if givens form at the moment is incredible, then harpers at the end of last season was the work of god, he didnt deserve to be dropped, and apart from that 1 game against liverpool, every time he stands in he performs better than given, and everyone says about the saves given makes to keep us in the game which is true, and every1 says im given bashing, which im nto cuz hes a great keeper, but im just sayin that harper lets in less goals, which is a fact, and at the end of the day less goals = less losses, and less losses = more draws & wins, more draws & wins = better league position more points and more success, jsut want whats truelly best for nufc
127 ToonEskimo // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Kinnear : Hi Den, get me these player..
(hands the dwarf a list)
Dwarf : (without looking at JK’s list)
Here Joe, look who’s coming in January
(hand’s him his list)
I will bet my nuts that Mike Ashley is still NUFC owner this time next year, it’s incredulous to believe that there is any kind of sale impending, this whole “sale” thing is just a ruse to get the fans off his back, and it has worked a treat.
Truth is we have some decent players, just need to get rid of a couple of overpaid underplayed superstars and then we’ll climb the table, is anybody THAT bothered who owns the place??
Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
128 Ganiyu // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:40 PM
A b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z.now i know my abc wont you sing along with me
129 Paul:D // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:41 PM
btw, does anyone know what keegans doing at the moment, dont think he might be finding the funds to buy newcastle himself doya??
130 PapaToon // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:47 PM
ppl have a memory of a gold fish. we didnt sign any big players in the summer when things were stable how the hell we suppose to get the money for big signing from the owner whos looking to sell. And which player in their right mind would want to come to our club knowing the unrest in management.
most likely we will have loan signings and squad players.
131 THE BEAT. // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM
not taking the urine out of you isaac,just hunt doesn,t sound like a jewish name.
i was just curious as other jews have english surnames like miller for instance.
are your family what you call english jews that have been present in england for 800 years.
i,m in no way trying to insult you or your faith and culture,it is just a question.
132 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:57 PM
here are The Sun ratings for the Chelsea match.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1961918.ece
Typical Sun crap.
Apart from Colo, both defences are basically evenly rated despite our defence keeping a clean sheet at the bridge and their defence never actually doing anything the whole match. Complete joke. Owen, despite doing jack s**t all game got a higher rating than Martins, who despite being equally as ineffective, at least had a shot and helped in some of the build up play.
133 Ganiyu // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Players that can be sold-given and shola butt cacapa and viduka due to difference
134 Spyro // Nov 23, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Sick of the Sun and their lazy journalism. They probably based those ratings on MOTD highlights. Pap paper.
135 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM
like the cock sparrer song the sun says,so it must be true.
136 ObaMartins // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM
I’ve been told there’s no money to spend, but whatever I raise from sales can be used in the transfer market,’ added Kinnear. ‘There are a few players I want.’<<<This is what Ashley thinks of US Newcastle United Supporters…
137 Ganiyu // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:02 AM
What the difference between a book and journal
138 Todd // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I have no problems with Harper, he gives everything for United when he plays. I just see Given as a more competent keeper. Stats aside.
And by the looks of it, you might just get your wish if Given does leave. And if he doesn’t Spurs could well take Harper?
139 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:09 AM
you,ve got to give harper credit for his loyalty,he,s been at newcastle since nelson lost his eye.
140 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:10 AM
ganiyu,a journal is like a diary.
141 Spyro // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Here is a much better article about Saturdays result
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/kinnear-adds-heart-to-revival-1032237.html
142 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:22 AM
The Beat. You wouldn’t hear me saying “Why don’t you full stops go back to where you come from?”
143 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:23 AM
it,s no longer called guy fawkes night in newcastle anymore,it is mike ashley night because he should be burned on a bonfire for this outrage.
if he ever shows his fat face in the toon again he,ll get a rocket up the a**e.
144 Todd // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Good article Spyro, credited Collo, Bassong more than most.
145 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:25 AM
isaac i am not trying to insult you mate,i think you are misinterpreting what i,m saying.
the question i posed was just out of curiosity no offence intended.
146 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:29 AM
I’m not sure what you mean by the term ‘English Jew’. Is that the same as the term ‘Irish Jew’ as beloved by our boys in blue?
147 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:31 AM
isaac jewish surnames to me would be the following=
cohen
meyer
siegel
gold
i was just wondering whether you could shed some light on why some jewish people have english type names.
148 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:33 AM
isaac english jew is the name given to the jewish peoplre that settled in england 800 year ago,i saw the mention of the term on the wikipedia.
149 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM
But Wikepedia just supplies circumstantial evidence you know.
150 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Anyone can edit entries in Wikepedia and just tell porkies.
151 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:48 AM
the first jewish settlers in england came with edward the confesser during the norman invasion,rabbi joseph of london was the first jewish man in england to be given a charter to run his businesses.
152 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Edward the Confessor was an Anglo-Saxon not a Norman
153 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:51 AM
isaac,it was just enquiry thats all,you know like you have different tribes of jews like the sephardi and the ashkenazi thats all i meant.
154 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM
i stand corrected i got the two mixed up.
155 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM
…. and when he confessed, one of the boys in blue said “Irish Jew in the name of Danelaw”
156 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:58 AM
there is references to jewish people settling in england during edward the confessor,s time,but jewish people became more prominent during norman times i got it mixed up.
157 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Nice talking to you The Beat. Got to get up early to review the situation. Nite
158 THE BEAT. // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:03 AM
catch you later isaac.
159 CHUCK // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Yo Isaac, dont you know the term “casting pearl among swine”.
They just dont get it !
160 Isaac Hunt // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Hi Chuck. Just checked in before hitting the zzzs.
I have to admit. I nearly wet myself laughing at one point. Must go. I have to pick a pocket or two.
161 Sav // Nov 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM
What’s surprising about Ed’s article is that some people are surprised by it.
What the heck did anyone expect?
FatAsh (reputedly a lifelong Spurs fan) has a club he doesn’t want with 50,oo0 fans who can’t stand the sight of him or his cockney mates. His kids can’t come to games and the fans have tumbled to him, write articles and blogs against him for the way he has made a shambles of running the club and he is vilified in every newspaper and on TV.
He is also a bloke who reputedly does not like to be bested or take defeat or denial with good grace and who likes to get even.
If it wasn’t going to cost him in the wallet, he’d probably be glad to see NUFC go down the tubes and us with it. If FatAsh could have got out of this showing a decent profit, he could at least wave his wedge at his critics and salvage his reputation as a shrewd and ruthless businessman.
But then came the credit crunch.
It is a pound to a hayseed he’ll asset-strip and pocket the balance if he can. His lack of regard for NUFC and its fans is reflected in his treatment of JFK – here’s another month, Joe, do as you’re told and if you don’t like it….
Only desperate Joe would put up with it and Keegan wouldn’t.
If making a profit meant selling Given, N’Zog, Owen, the club’s heritage or its future, it is very unlikely sentiment will have anything to do with it. I think that is why it suits FatAsh to have Dennis Wise, a detached lieutenant with no affiliation to NUFC and living in London. He’d sell us down the Swannee and won’t turn a hair doing it.
162 micepie // Nov 24, 2008 at 3:48 AM
It’s kind of amusing that we p^^^^d off a lot of the press and football pundits by holding Chelsea to a draw! Ha!
163 ginkoh // Nov 24, 2008 at 3:54 AM
Nothing can surprise me about Newcastle now. Anything is possible !
164 tino97 // Nov 24, 2008 at 5:59 AM
I would like to see Skljebred come to Newcastle and maybe Warnock. I think Riise is past it. Not sure about Denilson. Maybe Appiah on loan. I think those to sell are definitely Cacapa and Geremi. I would keep Smith, I think Joe would be able to get something out of him. Even though it pains me to say this, I think Dennis wise is doing a decent job with recruiting the players. I hope this continues.
165 toptoon // Nov 24, 2008 at 6:38 AM
Sav – good point mate, Mike Ashley clearly has no dignity or empathy for Newcastle United and there fans as a whole, he sat with us last year and we embraced him, I feel betrayed at what has happened in the summer and hold no hope of this fat wimp doing anything positive for the club in the future or the present. I met Dennis Wise in the summer (transfer window) on holiday in Dubai, my immediate reaction to meeting the dwarf was; this guy has more power at NUFC than i realised.
In the words of Alan Shearer and Steve Stone
“Mike Ashley simply does not know how to run a football club”
166 Guinea Mag // Nov 24, 2008 at 7:14 AM
Whomever we sell in the January transfer window we’ll need to replace; so let’s start with those who are injured/injury prone:
Owen – Especially if he doesn’t sign a new contract
Viduka – Good player but injury prone
Cacapa – Not good enough
Smith – Injured and not good enough
Geremi – No longer good enough
Expect Spurs to put in a big bid for Given (as they need a keeper) and this will promote harper, Krull and Forster up the ranks….
I don’t agree we sell the younger players such as Enrique, N’Zogbia, Xisco, Edgar or Carroll. If they are not currently in the first team squad they need to be sent out to the Championship on loan to gain experience…..
167 The Entertainers // Nov 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM
I’m not getting too carried away this transfer window. Particularly after the worst transfer window in our history, the past summer!
Firstly Ashley might not fund us. Part of him will think stuff us, however if he does care for us at all then regardless of any sale he knows we NEED players in Jan’.
So lets say Ashley will sign players, they will NOT be massive deals.
The two JFK has mentioned are on loan and this would be the right deal for both parties. The young Norwiegen lad is mentioned again and i believe we need that attackning flare from the middle but it requires a fee, i have my doubts!
168 The Entertainers // Nov 24, 2008 at 8:25 AM
Then there are the players JFK is potentially willing to let go:
Owen:
We must be mad !
Zog:
This has been on the cards for years, lets bite the bullet on this one!
Viduka:
Not sure of the lenghth of his contract, but let it run out, when fit (yes big when) hes something completely different and can be unstoppable.
Carroll:
Unfortunately had his chances and pulled up no trees, even in lower divisions
Xisco:
JFK does not fancy this guy! Done nothing for me to argue with his view point either. Apart from hes young, but then so is my daughter and she wouldnt get a game!
Edgar:
Needs a new challenge
Cacapa:
JFK would not sell him and i wouldnt want him too either.
Enrique:
Why !!!! We have 1 LB and by buying another one doesnt mean we sell Jose, that would put us back to square one.
I personally would accept Edgar, Carroll and Zog this transfer widow and then look again in the summer.
169 wigaz // Nov 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM
That was a good shout for Mcfadden way back. I think if we went for some SPL players we’d have better chance of gettin em. Take for example Kris boyd at Rangers, great hold up player and scores goals for fun! even a international level & in Europe. James McFadden is a very skillful creative player who could fit in nicely behind a front two or play off a striker. We could also go for McGeady who can play lw rw or behind the striker. These guys wouldn’t cost much and i think would improve the squad.
170 SouthLincsToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 8:38 AM
If a transfer was agreed for Owen would he pass a fitness test?
171 WesToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:11 AM
@ The Entertainers // Nov 24, 2008 at 8:25
Agree with most of your post mate BUT Cacapa?? C’mon, i would rather keep Edgar or bring up Kadar…. Cacapa is WAY past it,he just aint cut out for the Prem League
172 AO // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM
So much for kinnears comments before the game about giving it a go against chelsea. Fair play to newcastle though, they got exactly what they wanted . A point. It doesnt show much ambition though,defending for 90 minutes.
173 beyethegreat // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:24 AM
ao
youre right it doesnt show much ambition but had we attacked them they would have hammered us
174 TTID // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Kinnear Must sell before he can buy.
Let the ASSET Stripping commence!!!
He’ll get as much money out of the place as he can, selling players, then he will drop the club asking price, BUT it wont be proportionate to what he makes out of player sales. then he still gets his tidy little profit regardless of what the club is sold for!!
For the laymen out there……..The Fat B*stard is still looking to rob the club blind!!!
175 TTID // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Entertainers.
I agree with you on the majority of them, however, CACAPA?????????
He is terrible man, he would be first on my list out the door!!
I would rather keep Edgar.
176 AO // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:29 AM
beythegreat- fair point. I was just bringing up kinnears comments that they woulg go for it, which they didnt.
Regarding the transfer window- I cant see kinnear bringing in any players better than what you have at the moment. You are in a bad league position with a temporary manager and uncertainty surrounding who will own the club. You wont be an attractive option for top players especially as you wont pay top wages.
If owen and given both go you could well be in serious relegation trouble.imo
177 TTID // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Joke of the Day!!
Joe Kinnear gives Dennis Wise his Transfer List..
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…..that cracked me up!!
Like it matters?????????
178 k k forever // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:39 AM
A O thank u now cud u tell PAUL D that and SPYRO cos they a pare ov knbs who keep saying sell them wot team do u support mate
179 The Entertainers // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Ok boys let me explain my reason behind my bout of insanity to KEEP Cacapa.
My points are focused on this transfer window. The sale of Cacapa would not bring in much revenue, if any. He is experienced and can do a job, however not on a consistant basis. He also offers that calming influence off the pitch.
So like The Duke, selling him would benefit Ashley, less wages. But it would not put money in JFK’s hand, which is far more important to me.
I agree come the summer get rid along with others.
But now ? No keep him as there is no benefit in selling him, other than lining Ashleys pockets!
180 k k forever // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM
UR RITE MATE WE CANT AFFORD GET RID OV ANY AT THE MOMENT COS WE WONT BE GETTIN ANY IN
181 WesToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:55 AM
@ The Entertainers // Nov 24, 2008 at 9:48
I see what you are saying mate BUT getting rid of Cacapa would free up WAGE money,so we could then get some1 like Appiah on a free…Basically a straight swap for Cacapa(In Wages) Then bring in Kadar,I mean he could do a job too,a better one than Cacapa would anyway
182 beyethegreat // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM
ao perhaps on loan
183 AO // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:07 AM
beythe.- You will get players who arent good enough for there current team who will be playing for themselves and not newcastle. I think you really are in a pickle. Teams like sunderland have the money to buy themselves out of trouble as do most teams at the bottom with newcastle the exception.
184 WesToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:20 AM
@ beyethegreat // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:00
Mate dont even bother engaging AO….if ever you wanted to meet the biggest Tosser in the world…well now you have
He comes on here,then says he is a Spud fan,couple days later the piece of Sh!te then says he is a manure fan,Lads just let the little prick say what he has to,He aint worth the trouble(I mean he honestly believes Spurs have a bigger fan base Than NUFC) AO just wait until we are bought you D!CK HEAD,they who laughs last,laugh the loudiest!!!
FFS GO TO YOUR OWN BLOG
185 WesToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:21 AM
* Loudest not loudiest
186 AO // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:25 AM
westoon- you always get one who lowers the tone and tries to get involved in a slagging match.
I also think you are being a bit arrogant calling yourself the biggest tosser in the world. 51times will always get my vote!
By the way. Google teams with the biggest fanbase. Feel free to apologise when you have done so.
187 Jóhann // Nov 24, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Couldn´t say it better Paul !
188 WesToon // Nov 24, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Look the simple fact is that Spuds are situated in London,am i right??? Yes
They have to compete with proper football clubs like Chelski & Le Arse,am i right?? Yes
Newcastle are a 1 club city,am i right?? Yes
Newcastle have over 1 million people in the city,am i right?? Yes
How can you even argue mate??
189 AO // Nov 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM
westoon- You are a plonker! Am i right? Yes!
190 BIG DANNY BOY 123 // Nov 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Given
–Beye——Mexes—–Coloccini—-Riise
-Gutierrez—Skjelbred—Denilson–Duff-
—————-Heskey—Martins———-
In-Mexes for 7m,Denilson for 6.5m,Skjelbred for 7m,Riise for 3.5m,heskey for free TOTAL=24m
Out-Owen 5m,Smith 3m, N’zogbia 6m, Cacapa 2m. TOTAL=16m.. spent 8m
191 TOONADDICT // Nov 24, 2008 at 4:49 PM
To be honest when owen came to the club everyone was buzzing because we thought he was gonna be the man to replace shearer and keep fit and get us 20 a season, now look at him injuryprone and scoring maybe eight a season if he is lucky and shola ameobi is keeping him out the side and scoring goals……….i think he should leave and xisco should pack his bags to but i think smith should get another chance as he puts in 100% effort each game he plays and as soon as he gets a goal he will be firing them in left right and centre….
These are the players out:
Owen
Xisco
Gonzales
Enrique
Geremi
These are players to come in:
Risse
Skjiebred
Denilson
Gallas
192 David_Barber // Nov 24, 2008 at 11:30 PM
This is the only transfer market where I want no activity-because it will mean our star players leaving! If MA had any sense he would splash the cash-then sell for a higher price-but who the hell would come?
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