Michael Owen Hugely Important To Newcastle United

Joe Kinnear was a little reluctant to drop Shola Ameobi for captain Michael Owen on Saturday, after Joe has revitalized the Nigerian’s career, at the only club he has ever played for.

Michael Owen – hugely important to Newcastle United

But Joe seems vindicated with the fantastic performance and draw achieved by Newcastle at Stamford Bridge, that justified his decision.

Kinnear said today:

“I had to leave out Shola against Chelsea which was a tough decision because he’s been excellent for me. But there are tough decisions to make as a football manager and I face up to them. I talked to Shola and explained it. Michael came in and did a terrific job.”

“I played Michael in a slightly deeper role at Chelsea because he’s one of those players that have the football brain to adapt to different kinds of positions and he was excellent.”

“His attitude was first class and that kind of thing is what real captains are all about.” “He showed his real captain’s qualities and that kind of thing sets the standard for the rest of the team. It’s real leadership.

“People have said this and that about me and Michael but our relationship is fine. He’s a hugely important part of this football club.”

Joe seems to be so good with his players, and unlike some of today’s managers, he talks to his players a lot. He talks to them about what he wants out of them for the side, and how they can improve.

He also lets them know why he’s left them out of the side, id he has dropped them, and that’s why very few of them seem anything but happy working for the likable Irishman.

It’s called great man management and both Bobby Robson and Kevin Keegan were also terrific at man management while at the club – and they were the two most successful managers we’ve had at the club since Joe Harvey managed Newcastle to success back in the 1960s.

When you treat your players well you can also get performances like Saturday’s out of the lads.

Now we have to keep up the standards and get all 3 points at the Riverside Stadium on Saturday.  That’s the next test – and we cannot afford any let-downs – as we seem to have done so often in the past.

Comments welcome.

25 comments so far

  • dylan2k8

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #1

    FIRST COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #2


  • Ausgeordie

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #3

    If we keep paying his wages and a bit more for four more years it will cost us 17 mill. If we buy someone worth 10 mill to replace him he is certainly going to be on wages of 60 to 70gs, wont be half the player owen is and will end up costing us more. I say keep him on despite the injuries….if we can. If we dont have new owner soon we dont have a hope

  • graeme

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #4

    And Newcastle is hugely important to Michael Owen – especially to his Bank Balance!!!!!

  • k k forever

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #5

    ur rite ausse we need him

  • clinta

    Nov 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #6

    getting a little tired of the “how good is Joe” agenda in every article ed, think we get the message.

    ‘When you treat your players well you can also get performances like Saturday’s out of the lads.’

    You can also get performances like away to Fulham and home to Wigan as well yeah?!

  • Desmond - DesmondBlog.com

    Nov 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #7

    Just sell him and get Kevin Doyle or Peter Crouch.

    He’s not a real captain for some reason.

    Compare him to John Terry, Gerrard or even Nolan.

  • BenjiToon

    Nov 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #8

    Yeah Clinta – I’m feeling like you on this one. I haven’t posted for ages on this site. I keep holding my breath and me water, to see what the next twist in the Toon saga wil be. Frankly I’m exasperated by Ashley, the sale, the month-to-month managership, the never-ending injury list and the never-offered-never-signed Owen contract.

    I’m just happy to have the distraction of a match to watch as St James occassionaly….

    On the Kinnear front, I think its still very early to be saying he’s a great manager or singing his praises quite so loudly. The man’s done OK, but we’re still in the bottom three and have turned out two turkey performances under him as well as the good ones.

    Although KK coming back may not be the answer, and will probably never happen, I don’t think we’d be hanging around the bottom if he was still here. JK is firefighting and doing OK but the lads still have a lot of work to do.

    Let’s reserve judgement until at least Xmas before we say how good he is. Remember, bottom 3 at Xmas usually an indicator of who’s going down.

    I hope and pray Kinnear can pull us out of it.

  • Isaac Hunt

    Nov 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #9

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  • reillers

    Nov 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #10

    He’s not worth it, The wee lad is past his best and has been for a long time. He gets goals off other peoples hard work and steals the glory. He’s probably the most undeserving captain at the club. The captaincy like his ridiculous wages now is a pay off, to purely keep him at the club. We’re constantly fighting a battle to keep him here. His wages are insane and ridiculous and hes not a good captain either, we all know that, yet here we are. But despite the money and the captaincy, neither of which he deserves, he still wont sign a bloody contract.

    We all know that all he’s doing is trying to get as much money out of the club he can, which he’s doing, waiting for a better offer to come a long. I guarantee you the second a club comes a long who is higher up on the table, who can offer him more money, he’ll be off. No loyalty whatsoever.

    We seem to be making the club all about him. But he and the club have to realise, no player is bigger then their club, no one, no matter who they are or how big a name they USED to have.

    It’s clear as day that he doesnt want to be here, so let him off, sell him for a few million and buy a player, like the above mentioned, Kevin Doyle. He is so talented, unbelievably grounded and most importantly he’s unselfish, he doesn’t the credit when it’s not due and he’s a work horse. In the last few Irish matches, NO one covered as much ground as he did.

    And last but not least he’ll get us goals, either scoring or seting them up. He’ll play up front or on the wing. That would be money well spent, unlike now, spending it on an injury prone has been.

  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #11


  • reillers

    Nov 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #12

    Oh and while we’re all trying to please Owen, and reward him with contracts, for his eh..well I don’t know what.
    The loyal players, the likes of Harps, hasn’t been offered a contract and has been left in limbo. I’m sorry but he deserves more then that. But no, we’re all too busy trying to fix things and sort things out like contracts for a player who doesn’t want to be here, and we leave Harps who’s been an amazing servant in the cold.

    Well done Ashley, well done.

  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #13


  • Ageordiedoonsooth

    Nov 26, 2008 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #14

    I think he’ll stay until end of the season & then if Ashley & Co are still around he’ll be off

  • Reb

    Nov 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #15

    …shockingly, reillers returns with another completely speculative anti-Owen post. Liberally supported by “evidence” including assumptions, rumours, and a patent dislike for the player. Doesn’t matter that most of it has been contradicted by interviews with Owen, other players, both recent managers, Chris Mort (remember him? when the club hierarchy actually spoke once in awhile? Ah, the “good ol’ days” of last season), and the “club ambassadors” like Rob Lee, Shearer, etc. Oh, and WOULD be contradicted by an ability to see quality, leadership and work-ethic on the pitch (because, fair enough, Owen isn’t much of a talker — seems he talks only when he has to do official stuff).

    A fanatic is someone who cannot change their mind and will not change the subject.

  • Texas Toon

    Nov 26, 2008 at 6:53 PM

    Comment #16

    Owen isn’t all that and time and time again he proves his heart isn’t in the scrap to keep the Mags up!! Lets give our heads a wobble and sort this little turkey out.

  • reillers

    Nov 26, 2008 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #17

    Reb what of what I’ve siad is wrong. You’ve gone on about factless crap that I wrote.

    So he’s not on ridiculous wages.
    So Keegan didn’t give him the captaincy to smooth things over, he’s a poor captain yet there he is with the captaincy, explain why to me other then to level in with another factor to try and keep him at the club.

    So he isn’t looking to get every penny out of the club that he can, I think from refusing to sign a contract and getting the wages he’s been given, wages he hasn’t earned at all, says the real story.

    So he doesn’t score off other peoples hard work and then steals the headlines when he shouldn’t from the likes of Given, Colo..etc.

    So he hasn’t lost it at all, please he’s missing sitters he’s dropped completley from a poor English side.

    Tell me what of what I’ve said is wrong??
    The “evidence” there is pretty much fact. Owen past, move on.

    I don’t mind the lad, he was a good player, but was is the key word here. He’s well past it and we all know it, and his hearts not in it.
    He’s not much of a player anymore, just a big name. He’s not a big player anymore, Rooney will probably get you more goals in one game then Owen will in one season.

    A player like Kevin Doyle will work for you, he’s a work horse, doesn’t moan, will play about anywhere he’s put, he will get us goals, and we’ll spend a hell lot less money on him and he’s not as injury prone as Owen. That would be a good spend of money, instead of breaking the bank trying to keep a player who’s clearly past it.

    What’s wrong with what I’ve said, what’s not true??

  • reillers

    Nov 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #18

    When it comes down to it, he hasn’t earned the captaincy, wages but he gets them anyway and he wouldn’t know loyalty if it hit him in the face.
    At the end of the day, the money and captaincy it to keep him here, what next..a statue??

    We’re actually rewarding disloyalty. He hasn’t earned it. No player is bigger then their club. Its about time he relises that. Hopefully that will be realised before we break the bank completley.

  • wigaz

    Nov 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #19

    I think a lot of u guys are maybe comparing him to the last Centre forwad who wore the captain’s armband with nothing but pride & passion a certain number 9, what was his name again? lol! it’s unfair to try to compare Owen to him or even Gerrard or terry, Gerrard is That whole team! he makes it all happen & they are bum without him! he makes them tick. Terry is the rock that chelsea are built on. Owen is our goalscorer & thats it. His job is get goals. He’s not alan shearer & never will be. I dont mind him being skipper but would eventually like to see it handed to Barton. Before you kick off just think about it, he has the heart passion & fire to lift everybody on the field & he’s always in the thick of it!

  • Punk Skunk

    Nov 26, 2008 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #20

    Owen is far from past it…But i do seem to remember all the ‘pundits’ writin’ off a certain A Shearer ‘cos he’d had a couple of bad injuries in a couple of years…Look what he went on to do…Just the best scorer in the prem & NUFC…EVER!..

    …1 in 2, no arguement to that, surely?..

  • Reb

    Nov 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #21

    Reillers — I’ll be happy to break it down for you.

    “So he’s not on ridiculous wages.”

    He’s hardly alone — most footballers are on ridiculous wages, and it’s not as if he demanded those wages. If I recall correctly, FFS gave Owen a significant raise on his wages as part of the incentive to come to NUFC rather than take his chances at Madrid another season. I wouldn’t turn down his wages and I think it’s unfair to criticise people for taking what is fairly offered to them as the “market value” of their labour. Even if it seems a ridiculous amount. Given that, averaged over his minutes played, his Actim numbers had him in the top 20 players in the league last season it seems logical that he be paid among the top 20 players in the league (plus a bit because Newcastle United are not a top club — players winning medals may not need as much pay as compensation).

    “So Keegan didn’t give him the captaincy to smooth things over,”

    Maybe KK did. Or maybe he simply decided he wanted an experienced outfield player to be captain, which left him (in Jan) with Butt or Owen as his options. Since Butt appears to be vice-captain, I’ve always rather figured that was Keegan’s thinking — combined with, yes, a desire to show the press and Michael Owen both that there were no “hard feelings” over Owen’s book/earlier experience with England.

    “he’s a poor captain yet there he is with the captaincy”

    I’ve only ever heard one person publicly declare Michael Owen to be a poor captain (last season it was…I think around the Chelsea match in May). His teammates all seem to respect him (watch how they all react to him, in training vids & pics, on the pitch, in his little team huddles, etc.) and they’ve all had very positive things to say about him — more positive than would be required to avoid “rocking the boat”. Keegan and Kinnear both have repeatedly said Owen is a great captain in the dressing room and in training, though he prefers to lead through example than by shouting. Owen’s played his heart out since being made captain, often out of his “normal” position (in the 4-3-3 last season, in the midfield last season v. West Ham, marking Mikel last Saturday, etc.) — hardly proof that he’s poor captain material. He’s not Alan Shearer, but then again, that’s hardly any way to judge.

    “So he isn’t looking to get every penny out of the club that he can,”

    He’s accepting his wages. I did that today as well, when I received my pay from my employer. What must you think of me? It’s hardly as if Owen is holding a gun to Ashley’s head saying “pay me X or else”.

    “I think from refusing to sign a contract and getting the wages he’s been given”

    He’s not refused! He’s not been offered a contract. He was offered one, a few days before the close of the window — but the club then also tried to flog him apparently — and the club has since withdrawn it and has stopped negotiations with all players (multiple interviews have said this, most recently Nicky Butt). Owen cannot sign a contract that he does not have before him. Over the past summer, he was quite ill until July apparently. Negotiations then began, culminating in the offer of the contract which has since been withdrawn BY THE CLUB (due to the sale, etc.).

    “So he doesn’t score off other peoples hard work and then steals the headlines when he shouldn’t from the likes of Given, Colo..etc.”

    You would prefer he didn’t score? Owen’s goals last season came because of his own ability to appear in the right places at the right time. Very few players create most of their own goals. Besides that, I don’t care how he scores them, so long as he scores them. As for the credit issue (stealing the headlines) — that’s not his fault. You think Michael Owen writes the papers or something (aside from his column, I mean)? He has no control over the journos, you can’t blame him for that. Strikers/goalscorers tend to get the glory after matches. It’s the nature of things, not the player’s fault. You’re stretching for things to blame him for, really.

    “So he hasn’t lost it at all, please he’s missing sitters he’s dropped completley from a poor English side.”

    He’s “lost” it, but scored 6 times this season (a 1 in 2 ratio, I believe) in a struggling squad. He missed a sitter, then scored a good goal in the match v. Wigan. More importantly, he got into more positions in his short time on the pitch than the other strikers did, combined, the rest of the match. Owen’s positioning is his strength, really. He’s not lost that. As for being dropped from England, that’s mostly due to fitness if Capello is to be believed. Owen was in the squad in May, but got mumps. In August, he’d not returned. In September, it was still a very recent return to playing. In October, Capello picked a very in-form Defoe over him (I don’t agree w/that decision, but Defoe was in form so…that’s a manager’s choice). This latest match, Owen had only made sub appearances since his latest injury. Oh, and I don’t think people would really say the current England side is particularly poor. They’re on quite the run of results, actually (even if some of them haven’t been very pretty).

    “Tell me what of what I’ve said is wrong??”

    Job done.

  • reillers

    Nov 27, 2008 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #22

    He hasn’t earned any of it though.
    The captaincy, the wages.
    Your saying high wages are normal, nothing out of the ordinary, sadly it’s true in football these days, but he’s getting a hell of a lot for nothing really. He hasn’t earned them, to try and keep him at the club he has been given high wages, a lot higher then most.

    He’s got 6 goals this season, ya great, I hope he scores more, but that doesn’t give the whole picture now does it.
    Ronaldo scored 40 plus goals last season, that stat says how great he was. It also shows that Rooney’s goal count was a lot lower. What that doesn’t tell you is that while Ronaldo was starring from half way up the pitch at his player going in on goal, Rooney was back defending, he’d do just about anything for that team, he’d go in goals if you asked him.
    It also doesn’t tell you that Ronaldo wouldn’t have gotten half of those goals if it hadn’t been for Rooney doing all the work. But at the end of the day Ronaldo will get the credit.
    Kevin Doyle’s the same, I’ve never seen a forward cover as much ground as he does, except maybe Rooney. The stats don’t show you that. Berbatov is without a doubt the laziest sulkiest player you could come across, in one of the CL/prem games, I think it was said that Cech covered more ground then he did. He did no work, and got a goal and the credit that came with it. Goals don’t tell you everything.

    If you compare class to class then
    Rooney like I said, is more likely to score more goals in a game then Owen will in a season.

    The contract talks have been up in the air for months. Earlier in the year he was offered a pay rise on his 5mil a year contract to keep him at the club, he threatened to leave if his wages were slashed.
    There’s one thing that Owen wants from this, the most important thing, money. Have you ever heard fuss about Given or Harps contract or money. No. Why because they like it here, they love the club, and are loyal. Owen like I said is out to get as much money out of the club as possible.

    Look he was a good player, but he hasn’t been the same for a very, very long time.

  • Reb

    Nov 27, 2008 at 4:00 AM

    Comment #23

    “Rooney like I said, is more likely to score more goals in a game then Owen will in a season.”

    Then how come last season, Owen scored only one less goal than Rooney did. Rooney played for high-scoring Man Utd team — Owen played for a struggling NUFC. Rooney played 27 matches in the league, scoring 12 goals. This season, Rooney has made 12 appearances, scoring 3 goals. Owen played 29 matches (so…whose fitness was worse?), scoring 11 goals. This season, Owen has made 10 appearances, scoring 4 goals. You make a statement that the evidence just doesn’t support. Such blatantly false statements undermine any legitimate point you may have.

    Your points about the contracts are equally problematic. How do you know he “he threatened to leave if his wages were slashed”? Do you know him? Does he call you at home? Do you have a dorsal fin? (sorry, Ace Ventura reference…couldn’t help it). All the worry/fuss about wages has been in the papers. Not a word from the club, or from anyone connected with the club, or Owen, or anyone connected with Owen. Not one person who would put their name to the statement. Always makes me doubt the legitimacy of such statements.

  • russel

    Nov 27, 2008 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #24

    totally agree with Reb.

  • wigaz

    Nov 27, 2008 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #25

    Well said Reb son! Rooney gets his place in the England side just coz it’s Rooney! Owen is still the best English Goalscorer around. The press only make a fuss about him coz deep down they still cant belive he signed for newcastle! he did come to play alongside shearer, such a shame we didn’t see enough of that. I think if we brought shearer in as boss owen would sign new deal straight away. I also think shearer would go for Ashton & possibly try to bring woodgate back as woody said he would of signed for KK if shearer was involved. Please Al come & save us!


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