The Sunday Express is reporting today that Newcastle manager Joe Kinnear has been told he will not be given any transfer funds for the January transfer window.
Joe Kinnear – does he have transfer funds available?
The Express admits that Joe Kinnear has been saying that cash is available from Ashley, but they say today that they understand Mike Ashley doesn’t want to invest any more money in the club.
But the report in the Express says nothing about where they got that information from, only that they believe no transfer funds will be made available. Seems like they don’t believe what Joe says – strange indeed.
Joe seems to have indicated that if Newcastle can attract the right players – and that’s an “if” right now – that cash will be made available – so who are we to believe?
Mike Ashley could do himself some good by bringing in a few top players, if they are available, because that gets represented in the value of the club, so he will hardly be losing that money.
The club is also short on numbers, and we need to add to the squad in January, and that’s hard to do if you have to sell players before you can buy.
It’s true that Joe will be selling those players who he doesn’t believe are good enough to be at Newcastle, regardless of whether he gets additional transfer funds, and we think three of those are Geremi, Claudio Cacapa and Xisco. The first two of those were free transfers, so we’ll make a profit with any fee we get for them.
Selling Cacapa is just one reason we think Joe will be after another center-back in January.
A left back has to be the top priority at the club, which of course it was last summer too.
What do you think?
Comments very welcome.
273 comments so far
Spyro
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Comment #81Carroll is shite, whats your point?
Obafan
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Comment #82I’m not getting carried away by all these rumours, like I was in the summer.
I will wait and see what is going to happen, cause no-one knows, even JK doesn’t know what is going to happen, cause a word from Ashley is not worth that much (ask KK).
simon376
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Comment #83When people are talking about saving money in wages Sav has got it spot on, wont notice the savings for a good 12 months. Apart from that, if players dont ask for a transfer and they are put up for sale by the club who owns their registration, is there not some kind of payment that has to be paid to them? Perhaps even their contract are at least part of it has to be paid up
Don
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Comment #84Everybody has a comment here, but frankly this is an issue of trust and nobody trusts Ashley. Why should we? GET ASHELY OUT! ASHLEY OUT!
ASHLEY OUT!
Big Dave
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Comment #85hitman // Nov 30, 2008 at 18:58 @ 68
Is that including the team and club as a whole ?
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Comment #86Jock-as far as today goes, yes i have commented regarding other teams. Mainly because Blackburn were 2 points behind us, and Spurs were level on points with us. Had either won, we could have slipped back into the dropzone. i wouldnt say i was more interested in other teams, as the comments i made were clearly linked to newcastle.
I didnt call you, just said that i thought your comment was hipocritical.
Trust me, you say im going at you because you’re anti ashley, i am anything but pro ashley! i’ve never commented on players we SHOULD buy, merely players i’d like to see playing in black and white, purely because i too am less than optomistic regarding money we have to spend in Jan.
Turkish Magpie
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Comment #87Sell-
Duff- (3mil) i thought he was really back but he’s on the treatment table again
Cacapa- (2mil) someone like Hull City will buy him and at least we get 1mil
Edgar- ( 4mil) is still a young good player, but he hasn’t improved enough to be our rb cover
Carrol- (2mil) easily kicked out the squad by Ranger and Lua and Xisco so he has no future here
Owen- (5mil) if and only if he refuses to sign a contract.
Smith- (5mil) if he shows no signs of improvement it’s pointless keeping him
Geremi- (4mil) good player who doesn’t deserve to be cover!
Enrique- ( 5mil) an ok player, but will never improve!
total 30mil + whats left from Milner (8mil)
in
Arda Turan- (12mil)
Riise- (4mil)
Warnock- (4mil)
Elano-(5mil)
Larsson- (4mil)
Benoit Assou-Ekotto-(6mil)
Ched Evans- (3mil)
which gives us this team
—————————–Given————————
—–Beye———-Colo———-Bass———Riise-
—–Jonas———Barton——-Elano——-Turan-
———————-Viduka—-Martins—————
possible subs- Harper,Taylor,Guthrie,Butt,Warnock,Larsson,Evans,Ekotto,Nzogbia,Xisco,Krul,LuaLua,Smith,Ameobi,Ranger
doesn’t look bad!
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Comment #88Turkish mag-sorry to break it to you, but i’m rather confident that “whats left from Milner”, was dropped in large chunks down a chip shoot on the roulette table at a certain North East based casino after a few heavily losing spins of the wheel from Mr Ashley.
Shearbliss
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Comment #89Ed no player is free we still have to recover the wages!
hitman
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Comment #90more than likley dave…spyro its not aboot carrol its wat you says aboot the geordies,it was sutal but it was there.
GeordieDeb
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Comment #91Hitman – why do you have to be so offensive?(comment 68). Before you start I’ma geordie but I hate comments like that. If people want to support the team no matter where they come from it’s fine by me and most other people
dan
Nov 30, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Comment #92@ Turkish Magpie-
sell-
Geremi- (4mil) good player who doesn’t deserve to be cover!
in
Arda Turan- (12mil)
Riise- (4mil)
Warnock- (4mil)
Elano-(5mil)
Larsson- (4mil)
Benoit Assou-Ekotto-(6mil)
Ched Evans- (3mil)
have you been sniffin glue ??
Tom_Toon
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Comment #93Turkish – We wont get anywhere near those prices for our players! For one Edgar is ily contracted to the end of the season, we’d be lucky to get 500k for him!
Assou-Ekotto is possibly the worst player in the prem.
JoshNufc91
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Comment #94the mark of a truly great manager is to bo able to operate effectively in the transfer market with or without funds.
even if kinnear isnt given any money then we can sell players such as cacapa, smith, xisco, edgar, enrique etc… to raise funds.
up the toon
hitman
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Comment #95geordiedeb…i still will be here no matter wat,half the people on here support the toon from there pc.like aye says i was cborn a geordie and i will die one…
nightfall
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Comment #96Turkish Magpie – i agree about players we should sell, but:
arda? too weak and to slow for EPL…like playing owen as winger…and he’s too expensive
riise? overrated, overpayed player…
warnock? wouldn’t improve our squad
elano? did you watch man c man utd match today? the worst player on the pitch
larsson? can’t comment on him..haven’t seen enough of him
benoit assou-ekotto – see warnock
ched evans – not bad but we have enough of talented young strikers…we need a first team striker..sbd. who could replace viduka…
CHUCK
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Comment #97Turkish Magpie
What are you smoking ?
Smith= 5m.
Edgar =4m.
Geremi=4m.
Enrique 5m.
Cacapa=2m.
In your dreams son , come back to reality
dan
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Comment #98Hitman-
Saying that people shouldnt support the toon because they are not a geordie is just plain racism.
Im am a geordie and I don’t hark on about it every 5 seconds.
This suggests to me you either have a chip on your shoulder or a insecurity problem.
Spyro
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Comment #99Hitman
It would seem you have gotten the wrong end of the stick. I have never commented on “Geordies” as a whole as that is a far too general approach. However, i have spoken about some of the Geordies on this site as they simply play up to stereotypes. It is infuriating.
Also, my comment about Carroll is that he is shite, but people on here dont say so because he is Geordie…Or something along those lines. Relax.
Turkish Magpie
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Comment #100dan- do you remember Geremi was our captain last year? and he’s played in the champions league 3 times
and apart from Ekotto the others are good players so i think its you sniffing glue
Spyro
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Comment #101Ekotto is nto a bad LB at all.
Turkish Magpie
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Comment #102Nightfall- fair opinion but me being Turkish i know how good Arda is and i’m afraid i didn’t watch man city game, but in the Newcastle game Owen was the worst player yet we all know he’d do well at another club so maybe Elano would do well here
someone thats good at weeling and dealing could get those prices for the players we should sell, ok maybe Edgar is about 1mil but ever the optimistic.
and another thing is, teams like Hull and Sunderland will buy any club rejects and Hull are triumphing from it so players like Cacapa could be worth 2mil and we bought Enrique for 6mil so if we convince them we’re losing money or something teams may be tempted, business skills but if myplan actually happened(almost certainly wont) we would do well
but evryone has different opinions of players like some people love Viduka like me and some think he’s the champion pie eater.
just my opinion lads
Turkish Magpie
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Comment #103Spyro-
exactly my point
Tom_Toon
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Comment #104I have not been convinced with any LB’s that we could relistically get, so I’d play Beye LB for many reasons and drop a bomb on Anyukov who is absolutely amazing to play RB.
Incredible player, probably one of the most underrated players ever.
Geordie69
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Comment #105Where do you lot get your player valuations from? Turkish Toon especially yours!
Cacapa 2mill Edgar 4mill? Howay man stop playing fantasy football.
dan
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Comment #106Spyro-
I am a geordie from gateshead like Carroll.
I would be the first to say that he is a shite player who is not good enough for my team.
hitman
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Comment #107syro i know carrol is shite,thats not wat pissed me off,spyro me and you have went toe 2 toe for months,but you did have a sigh at carrol being a geordie…WHY
dan
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Comment #108Turkish Magpie-
Which league have you been watching this season.
Teams like Hull (who beat us at home) will buy players like Cacapa (an ageing hasbeen) for 2-3 million.
Wake up and smell the coffee beans sleepy head!
CHUCK
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Comment #109Josh Nufc91
Yeah good idea, we could sell players like…..
Cacapa= Free
Edgar =500,000, if we get lucky
Smith =3m. ” ” ” ”
Enrique= ? m We paid over the top, who knows..
That would buy us who ?
Must be smoking the same stuff as Turkish Magpie.
Xisco = Give the guy a chance first.
Nick
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Comment #110Sorry hitman, it was only an opinion. No need to get so defensive and abusive. I think if you read the article through, I said that better, younger and hungrier players could come in, so the squad didn’t decrease in personnel that much.
Experienced players are only relative if they are 100% available week in week out and are better than what we could get in to replace them or promote internally. I am sorry you passed up the opportunity to contribute an intelligent reasoned comment, but just resorted to base name calling.
nightfall
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Comment #111Turkish Magpie – i wouldn’t risk anywhere near 12m for arda..he just didn’t convince me…he’s weak and slow..his technique is good, but that’s it…i personally don’t think he could handle the physic of EPL…BUT perhaps a loan deal till the end of the season?
Spyro
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Comment #112My probvlem with Carroll is not that he is a Geordie. My problem with him is he is shite. I simply mentioned the fact he is a Geordie because i feel many people on here rate him solely for this reason. Much like Taylor imo.
hitman
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Comment #113wheres me comments ,spyro will tell you i never backed ashley….the bloke is a muppet,he put a fortune oe hbos,they went tittts up days later,plus he got advised not to put his money on it…lads the man is a divvvvy
dan
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Comment #114Spyro-
I am a geordie and I hate both Carroll and Taylor. The defense has kept two cleen sheets because we are rid of that donkey.
Dont get so bothered about it. There are some prize plonkers on here. Ignore them.
Turkish Magpie
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Comment #115nightfall- i watch turkish premier league all the time and Arda is about as fast as martins but his skill is so good he doesn’t need to be sprinting anywhere.
dan- are you aware Hulls cb is Zayatte, the player who was on trial at us and wasn’t good enough, which suggests to me if Zayatte wasn’t good enough and Cacapa is for newcastle, Cacapa is better so Hull will buy him
Chuck- no need to make silly comments such as what have i been smoking as
1. i have suffered family members dieing on my birthday because they smoked!
2. i’m highly intelligent and run a business of my own so i cant be off my noggin or anything(not saying you said that)
3. it’s my opinion of who i think is good and bad and who we should buy and sell
CHUCK
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Comment #116In defence of Spyro,
Never read any article where he mentioned anything denigrating about geordies in general.
This blog is generated from the US and its open to opinions from all, not just geordies.
There are expats and NUFC supporters from everywhere who are just as legitimate as those living in the toon.
Dont be so provincial and sensetive.
hitman
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Comment #117spyro,i undestand,you hate geordies,its ok your a cockney
toon head
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Comment #118elano is a very good player we should def go for him
d’allesandro is a genuis we should go for him on loan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spyro
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Comment #119Hitman
You are a very bored individual aren’t you?
beyethegreat
Nov 30, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Comment #120toon head would we be able to get these type of players on loan