Is A Truce Imminent With Ashley? – We Hope So

Malcolm Shiels, the Chairman of the recently created Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC), has come out and said a truce with owner Mike Ashley may be possible.

Mike Ashley – a truce imminent with Newcastle fans?

Malcolm Shiels told the Newcastle Journal today:

“I think a large number of Newcastle fans would be willing to accept Ashley back if he is willing to try and take the club forward again,” “What we want, more than anything, is to see an end to the state of limbo which has been so damaging over the last few months.”

“If he was to come out and say he can’t sell the club, but he is willing to come back and try again to get things right, he would be given a chance to do just that. “He has made mistakes and he probably knows it. If he was to actually come out and admit those mistakes and express a desire to look forward rather than back, I think most fans would be okay with that.”

“The most important thing at the moment is that Joe Kinnear is allowed to manage the side as he wants to. If Joe’s the manager he needs to be given money to spend in January – that’s imperative if the club is going to move forward positively.”

“If Ashley  is willing to provide that money and allows Kinnear to control how he spends it, I think it will turn around for him very quickly. If Kinnear is allowed to offer new contracts to the likes of Michael Owen and Nicky Butt that will also be a big step in the right direction.”

“But Ashley has to come out and say this, he has to have some sort of dialog with the supporters to bring an end to this negative atmosphere.” “The main aims of the NUSC are to work positively with the owners and management of Newcastle United who have its best interests at heart, whoever that may be.”

“There is no doubt the situation and executive management actions before and after the Hull game led to the formation of the NUSC, and the NUSC led calls for Mike Ashley to leave.” “However, the overriding long-term aim and ambition is to establish a positive regular dialog with the board and eventually a representative place on the board giving a true Newcastle fans’ voice.”

“The biggest problem Ashley has is suspicion about his intentions has been allowed to fester because of the lack of communication from him. Since Chris Mort left we’ve had no dialog from any senior figure at the club.”

We think Malcolm hits the nail on the head that the worst thing the Board has done since May, when Chris Mort left, is not to tell the fans anything about what’s happening at the club, and after all we are all Mike’s customers.

And customers are one of the most important commodities of any business, so we would like to see Derek Llambias replaced with somebody who will be a better liaison with the fans. Even if he keeps Derek in that position then he could still appoint somebody who can speak to the public about what’s going on at the club, and regularly too.

When Mike did come out, when he announced he was going to sell the club, and said what he had initially wanted to do with the club, some of his thinking was very good.

But it was the first we’d heard of a lot of things, like giving £20M a year for transfers. That amount isn’t big but it’s also sizable in that we can always sell players to get new ones in.

The youth policy has worked very well indeed, and we did get 4 good players in the summer in Gutierrez, Coloccini, Guthrie and Bassong, which definitely strengthened the squad, but it is still too small in numbers.

We think it’s time for a truce, and it would be great if Mike gives Joe some money in January. That very act would tell fans he wants to improve the Newcastle squad, and that would be great, and would also help Joe a lot, who let’s face it, seems to have been on his own, since he took over the job.

In our poll, 58% would be willing to have Mike back watching the home games again, and maybe that should be the next step. But we somehow have to get the support back for this club, it’s just too great to let the bickering that’s been going on over the last few months continue for much longer.

And of course this would also help the players, who must also feel a little uncomfortable with the stalemate between the Board and the fans.

We only want what’s best for the club on this site, and what’s happened since September just isn’t.

Let’s get back together and move the club forward again.

Howay The Lads.

Comments welcome.

115 comments so far

  • Rich Y

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #1

    agreed Ed.

    Communications are needed – nay, craved.
    Ashley must see this.
    I am sure he still realised the great potential for this club.
    A year or two of stability, pushing for the money pot of Europe then who knows what could happen.

  • DanToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #2

    Fat Bast*rd

  • Taiwantoon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #3

    I personally would be okay with that if, only if MA shows his intention in making the club great again.

    A new chairman who understands football and is willing to listen and talk to the fans is a must.

    I have to admit tho, I am compromised. I just want the situation to be resolved asap…


    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #4

    im sorry but ashley has abused are trust and loyalty one to many times.How can anyone ever consider trusting him again is beyond me, he has shown the fans no respect and has treated us as fools.

    The argument about for the good of the club does not wash with me as the man has never had the best intrest of the club at heart any way!

  • 51times

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #5

    Spineless, cowardly swine.

  • Marguerite

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #6

    As a paid up member of the NUSC I will abide by their directive insomuch as it may well bring an end to this stalemate which I understand is essential if we are to avoid relegation.

    We cannot continue with no-one in authority at Barrack Road. I refuse to acknowledge Llambias’s existence let alone his non-contribution.

    However in truth, this does not mean that I either welcome or trust Mike Ashley anymore. that for me is impossible. I was one of the gullible ones who believed in him.

    Now, I think too much has happened and my biggest fear is that he will continue to asset strip the club prior to selling it.

    The January window should be a good measure of just what his intentions for the club truly are.

  • samthecat

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #7

    Not for me-lower the price Mike and sell the club.

  • John C

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #8

    Why would we ever trust Ashley again. This is all posturing by the charlatan and his puppet (kinnear) to try and weedle his way back. His statement was mostly lies – family threatened ???, 20M£ to spend – where? Keegan knew his role – contradicts everything previously stated. He was always using the club for a quick profit and this would have come to fruition were it not for the credit crunch. He has wrecked this season with his ridiculous idea of how to run a football club. GET OUT and DONT COME BACK!!!!!!!!

  • Karltoon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #9

    He’s not just going to take a loss cause we want him to

  • freedom

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #10

    no way.fat untrustworthy **** .

  • Big Si

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #11

    He’s a liar, greedy and I will not give his club another penney of my money until he’s gone. The way he alolowed one of our family to be treated (KK) was nothing short of disgraceful and I will never forgive him for it. By the way, where’s the 20 mil per season gone then ? In three windows we have spent net less than 10 million, don’t believe the propeganda it’s all lies and we are being manipulated for financial gain !!!

  • Nick 69

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #12

    some people on here are pathetic, you would just accept him back if he comes out and says this and that, ARE YOU FORGETTTING HE DID THAT IN THE BEGINING, it was all his empty promises and lies which put him in this situation in 1st place so what makes you think he will keep his promises this time, he obviously knew there would be a lot of you whimps who would just give up and accept him is he just tool a step back, grow a spine and stick to what you want and believe in will you people!!!!!!!!

  • Born Again Geordie

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #13

    Would anybody not think that it may be prudent to listen to what Ashley has to say and perhaps arrange a meeting with NUSC – get it straight from the horses mouth as it were?

    Instead of all jumping to conclusions or believing the drivel that is written in the daily rags?

    I, like most supporters would like to see an end to this debarcle and move forward with the club.

    Please do not get me wrong, I am not pro-Ashley but given the current situation what harm would talking to the bloke do ?

  • Big Si

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Born again Geordie, because he’s a liar. You can’t believe a word of what he says so no point in listening to him.

  • broon ale

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #15

    born again. they didnt respond to nusc’s request for a meeting.

    that says alot.

    they take us for granted.

    Name me any other business that treats its loyal customers like garbage!

  • Yeomsta

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #16

    Mike Ashley can have all the good intentions in the world but you can ignore everything that went on with Keegan, ignore all the protests, ignore the Dennis Wise situation, ignore the lack of communication and the fact that Ashley considered any member of the squad as sellable and when it comes right down to it, the problem with Ashley is that he is willing to spend no more than £20 mill a season on the squad. In the current premier league climate that is NOT enoughl it can’t be sugar coated and it can’t be ignored, we are destined to go precisely no-where as long he is our chairman unless he finds investors to bring, which is unlikeley due to the big and scary credit crunch.

  • sean667

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #17

    well said Born Again Geordie, this does not mean we are spinless just realists so all you knockers of a differing opinion get over yer selves.

  • sean667

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #18

    i must admit i for one would love to know wot went on with keegan because i am dam sure he aint blameless

  • 51times

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #19

    He’s not even willing to spend £20m, when have we spent that much since he’s been in charge?

  • UTD111

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #20

    First of all – how many members has NUSC got?? They certainly don’t represent me or speak for me and I’m a bondholder and season ticket holder.
    Secondly – how many of your 58% are NUFC fans Ed?? You have no way of checking. How many of them actually go to the match in the first place to be able to “welcome him back”??
    Thirdly – the dwrf has to go before any of the real fans will even consider Ashley as serious.
    Fourthly – although I still go to the games and support the team – I am still not giving Ashley a penny in catering, club shop etc
    Fifthly – an apology to Sir Kevin, and bringing him back would be a good move for fat Ash – or “Mike” as Ed likes to call him….then the fans might take him seriously.
    Lastly (for now….) the silence of the llambias is a waste of space – sack him at the same time as the poison dwarf.

  • NE1

    Dec 2, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #21

    I disagree. Not welcome back – not now – not ever.

  • Silence of the Llambias

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #22

    As you might expect, good words from NUSC and good words from ED. Pretty much what weve been getting for a long time. I wonder how long it will take some of the well meaning, forgiving folk to realise the nature of this Ashley beast. He has cornered us into position where our only hope is to be positive about what little remains, with the diminished ambitions of a bottom half club. He will do very little to help us improve. The responses to this article say it all.

  • lesh

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #23

    I’d like to think that MA’s learned a lot about football and dare I say it, people in these last 3-4 months.

    I’m a little scepticle about one or two others of his trusted minions though!

    However, if he has has recognised that mistakes, big ones, have been made on his watch and learned from them, I’m sure he’d be better equipped to take an active and more prominent role in the club.

    He needs to be big enough to cough up to the errors, appoint a front person, define job roles (Dennis, are you listening?) and support the club he owns. He owes himself that.

    Will the real Mike Ashley please stand up!

  • eaststander

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #24

    No chance i will not stand by and let that mug ruin our club anymore! If he comes back and tries again i will be boycotting every match and all merchandise. Ashley out- not yet but he will be gone by the summer and till then i won’t have him in the stands laughing at us

  • Toon Chicken

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #25

    Welcome back Ash.

    Now splash some cash 🙂

  • Toon Chicken

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #26

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  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #27

    NUFC’s too big for MA then,
    I’d be gutted if we go down and he didn’t do a damn thing to save us from that.He’d be concidered as public enemy number 1 and nobody could guarantee for his safety.
    I really feel bad and i could only imagine for the people who live in Newcastle how fu….d up they must feel to go through this mess.
    I for one would definetely know how i’d be feeling if some liar was taking my money and giving me empty promises.
    As much as i want to find one positive bit in all this situation,i just simply can’t.
    But i always say one thing…..THERE IS GOD!!!

  • djm

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #28

    all you nay sayers are idiots and its people like you that make this club impossible to run… “how he allowed one of our family to be treated KK”?? are you delluded? stop being drama queens and get over yourselves.

    you all kepp saying how much he’s lied to us, every word is a lie, nonsense!

    now take a step back, the guy bought a club, a massive investment was done to clear our debt (how soon you all forgot FFS and what he did) and then you still want him to pump more of his own millions in! your idiots

    he’s a businessman that was willing to take NUFC to his heart, yeah he made mistakes but i’d bet my bottom dollar that if you or i took on this club we’d make mistakes too, hell we’d probably end up like leeds by just throwing money at the club and hoping we’d win something.

    grow up you fools, think about what your saying. and stop hoping to be the next chelsea or man city, why the hll would you want to emulate them just for quick success (not for city mind) but to be another embarrassment of the premier league and a rich mans toy… just for over night success, you sad excuse for nufc fans.

    newcastle and its fans are world renowned for a certain character, one that always faces adversity with strength, courage and hope, i’d rather be known for that than throwing money around hoping it lands on some good players just so we can have the success we’ve all craved for so long.

    give the sod a chance, we gave FFS enough, let him fall abck in love with the club, he had the right ideals, he just messed up trying to implement them

  • 51times

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #29

    Toon Chicken – Funny, but those of us loyal to Newcastle United are not yet defeated. In fact I would argue that this has only just begun, there are still many things we can do. Protesting is one of them but personally I don’t see what good that will do. More direct and drastic actions will have to be taken. If Ashley and the rest of your London-loving band want to solidify your control, it will come at a price, I promise you that.

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #30

    If Ashley changes his ways then it begs the question of why not not do so in September? It also leaves the chance for a similar situation to occur once more where Ashley sticks by his minions again.

    When he spoke of his plans they were good ones and would have been a huge benefit to the club, both now and in the long term. But Ashley has been found short of those ideas due mostly to his own arrogance and greedy demeanour.

    Quite simply, I don’t trust the guy.

    New owners could bring a fresh start, fresh hope and some sense would be good too.

  • Stardust

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #31

    My God – I am dumfounded by the arrogance and ignorance of so many so called Fans.

    How dare the self appointed NUSC even state their bile.

    They quote “There is no doubt the situation and executive management actions before and after the Hull game led to the formation of the NUSC, and the NUSC led calls for Mike Ashley to leave.” “However, the overriding long-term aim and ambition is to establish a positive regular dialog with the board and eventually a representative place on the board giving a true Newcastle fans’ voice.”

    Tey they go on to admit that they didnt know what went on and campaigned against the club. Then suffering from kneejerkitis they demand a place on the board. Are they morons or what?

    Personally if we do have a fans representation on the board, Id rather have a group with a little more balance and less volatility in their mood swings than this MOB.

    They now try to take a moral highground having been one of the major destructive factors. It is disgusting.

    If he had came out with a line – we the fans made major mistakes too – but no he claims its all Ashleys fault. What a *******r

  • Toon Chicken

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #32

    I can’t believed you haven’t been banned from this site yet 51 Times.

    Ed must be as soft as your swede.

  • Stardust

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #33

    DJM – great post

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #34

    We don’t need to be the next Chelsea or Man City. Should someone come in and buy us who has a bit of money and a lot of common sense we could see a solid setup created allowing us to get more players like Bassong, and have some excellent coaches getting the very best out of our players in all areas.

    It all comes down to appointing the right staff members form the chairman down the the tealady and not being afraid to ditch them if they’re grossly underperforming due to the lack of certain fundamental skills, like talking in Llambias’ case. Although when that’s the case they shouldn’t be hired in the first place.

  • Micky Toon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #35

    Oh, bloody hell not again. Another month of name calling and general crapness is about to decent on the blog.

    This is exactly what I and some others said would happen. People had their day out parading their laundry through the town and now the dust has settled they don’t care about Ashley being at the club. It was as obvious as the nose on barry mannilow’s face.
    OF course there will still be a few internet warriors such as 51, hitman, Geordie “gi” Jayne who will still want to shout ASHLEY OOOOOOTTTT!!! as loud as their caps lock will allow them to, but the rest will just accept their fate as we have done under every other fat controller that has been at the helm of our club.
    Personally I wish Ashley would go as he hasn’t a clue, but it’s not happening and as has already been proved no amount of badly spelled banners or hatred of anyone who wasn’t born near Swan Hunter Shipyards won’t change anything.
    It’s sad as I would like to believe in people power, but since Wolfie Smith is not amongst us I can’t see anyone actually getting together and putting forward a proper protest.

  • Spyro

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #36

    Be quiet 51, NO ONE is taking you seriously. oooh i am sure MA is so scared of what YOU might do eh…LOL. Do yourself a favour, your a little internet extremist who speaks out over the net in order to vent your frustrations, dont try and rise above your station. Pathetic.

  • 51times

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #37

    Why would I be banned for my post there? You Ashley boys are a bit totalitarian in nature, aren’t you.

  • 51times

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #38

    Spyro and other London dross – I am willing to prove I am not an “internet warrior”. I’ve offered to meet in person and discuss this Ashley business a few times and that offer remains. You would see that I have no issues saying in public what I say on this blog. I am well aware the majority on Tyneside share my views on Ashley, I have nothing to fear.

  • djm

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #39

    please all remember when saying MA hasn’t a clue.

    i guarrantee none of us would have a bloody clue of how to run a multi million pound football club that has fans that think they know whats best!

    it a bloody tightrope tryign to run such a business. you’ve got so many mitigating circumstances to making it work and the one thing you can never rely on is the fans because they are fickle single minded numbnuts, arm chair philosphers that don’t know diddly squat about the ins and outs of such a business.

    xisco stu, your post about “should someone come in and buy more players like bassong”

    jesus on a donkey, isnt the fatc that the current owner and that “poisonous little dwarf” brought in that player anyway, woah woah woah sweet child o mine, one step at a time chaps! what club in the name of footballing history brings in an amazing player time after time? come on, stop talking drivle.

    clearly the guys are on the right track and are trying, they brought in bassong ffs!

  • UTD111

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #40

    Correct 51 times – most of Tyneside do indeed share your views……


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