Three Dutchmen Joe Kinnear Is Interested In

We understand Joe Kinnear is interested in three players who are currently playing in the Dutch Eredivisie.

Urby Emanuelson – 22 year-old Dutch International left back

Here is some information on all three of them.

Urby Emanuelson is a 22 year-old left back and he looks an emerging star of the future

He was a member of the Dutch squad that won the UEFA U-21 Championship in 2006, who beat England in that terrific game that went to penalties in the semi-final. Urby was named in the UEFA Team of the Tournament as a left back. He stands nearly 5’10” tall.

In August of 2006 he made his debut for the Dutch national team in a friendly match against Ireland and has so far played 11 times for Holland and 91 times for Ajax with 6 goals.

He was born in June, 1986 in Amsterdam and is a Surinamese-Dutch footballer. He can play left back but can also play as a left midfielder. Emanuelson has come through Ajax’s youth system, joining them from Voorland SC. He appeared in Ajax’ first team squad for the 2004-05 season and made his debut on April 10, 2005. In the 2005-2006 season he became a first team regular and won the 2005 Johan Cruijff-schaal and the 2006 KNVB Cup.

We’ve been interested in this player for over a year now.

Dirk Marcellis is a 20 year old born in Horst, Holland, and he plays for PSV Eindhoven. His preferred position is center back, but if needed he can play anywhere along the back four.

The youngster fitted into the Ajax defense comfortably when he replaced the highly-rated Brazilian central defender Alex, who went back to Chelsea in the summer of 2007, after being loaned out to PSV for a few seasons.

Dirk stands just less than 6 feet tall and is a very skillful footballer, and certainly one for the future.

He received his first call-up under national team coach Van Marwijk for the World Cup qualifying matches against Norway and Iceland, and made his debut on October 11th of this year against Iceland.

He has played over 43 times for Ajax and has played twice so far for the national side, after representing the Holland youth sides at U21 and U17 levels.

Tim de Cler was born on 8th November 1978 in Leiden, Holland, and currently plays as left-back for Feyenoord of Rotterdam. He has also represented the Dutch national team on 16 occasions.

He was selected for the 2006 FIFA World Cup, and during his career he has won two Eredivisie championships and three KNVB Cups. He moved to Feyenoord from Ajax in 2007 and has so far played 32 times for the Rotterdam club, having previously played 157 times for Ajax.

At 30, he’s not young, but maybe he can be brought in for a reasonable fee, to give Jose Enrique some competition at left-back. He stands just over 5’10”.

If we could sign the first two, Urby Emanuelson and Dirk Marcellis, we’d have a good left-back and another young center-back, who can also play anywhere along the back four.  That would really strengthen our defense and both players are still young, and in their early 20s.

Of course it could be that Joe will bring in Sol Campbell from Portsmouth, and that would have the added advantage of Sol being able to pass on his football knowledge to our up and coming young central defenders, Steven Taylor, Seb Bassong and Tamas Kadar.

The reports suggest Joe would want to sign Sol for a year and a half, which should be enough time for young 18 year-old Hungarian Tamas Kadar to be pushing for a first team place. Sol just turned 34 in September.

Not sure how much the two Dutchmen would cost in the transfer market.

Comments welcome.

46 comments so far

  • spudgun

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #1

    Lets face it – Jose Enrique is sub-standard and needs replacing. De Clers experience would be vital and, being 30, we would get at least 3 good years from him whilst he passed on his knowledge to the younger lads.

  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #2

    Ed……De Cler got injured last week and i’m talking about 7-9 weeks for sure.

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #3

    glad things are settling down a little at the club and hopefully what happens on the pitch will take priority over things off it…

    Emmanuelson looks a good player and Jose needs some competition at left back…..

    Campbell alongside Colo would be very very good however young Bassong has looked the business the past couple of weeks…actually he looked the business in Majorca during the summer….I hope that some of our more “fickle” fans understand that he is young, still learning and will make mistakes….so if/when he does, give the lad a break before his confidence hits rock bottom….

    We are in a fight at the minute and for once, we look up for it….Howay the lads

  • AO

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #4

    Are these virus issues going to get sorted out?

  • Spyro

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #5

    Jose Enrique needs competition. We shouldn’t be offloading U-21 internationals like him and Xisco. That is just silly. They need competition and to slowly ease their way into the team imo.

  • Tom

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #6

    The first two would be good, I’ve never rated De Cler personally.

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #7

    Spyro…Totally agree…..

    Jose is a very good player who is going through a tough time at present. He has lots of potential and unfortunatley, unless supporters have a little patience and help the lad through this sticky patch, he aint never gonna come good…

    Competition = Defo
    Get rid? = no chance…

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #8

    We also desperately need a playmaker/ creative midfielder to come in……

    Bremen out of Europe….little Diego….6 month loan…?

  • Micky Toon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #9

    So that’s what happened to Milli Vanilli. Remember them? Just me then?

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #10

    Cannot whack a couple of lip sinkers (Spelling) Micky lad

  • cause I got the girth

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #11

    girl you know its true
    oh ohh ohhh i love you……….

  • cause I got the girth

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #12

    on a different note, if the past few transfer windows have taught us nothing it is to believe nothing you hear or read until its confirmed! Prey tell, how do we know we are interested in these players?

  • StevieA

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #13

    Looks to me like Joe Kinnear is building from the back, that comes across to me that he is looking to build long term and believes that if he fixes the defence and we improve and get more away results then he will be in line for the job.

    Building from the back always makes the biggest difference and that seems to be what he’s going for.

    All 3 players are good quality, all quite experienced and have good reputations so I dare say bringing in 2 or 3 of these would be a good move. We shouldn’t ignore Bassong though, he needs opportunities to play but this might mean that Steven Taylor might be leaving the club in the near future.

    Collocini is improving all the time as he adapts to the premiership pace but we need cover for left back and right back that’s for sure.

    We still need a creative midfielder too and possibly another striker but the priority seems to be defence. Bit of a cunning move when you think about it by JK, he obviously thinks the defence is the key to climbing the table.

  • Pete

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #14

    They won’t be U-21 internationals for long if they keep playing like they do, that’s for sure. Seriously, if you’re not good enough you should be replaced. Enrique has been here for a while now, and he’s showing little or no signs of becoming a decent left back to be honest

  • LooneyToon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #15

    girth…dont give up your day job…lol

    Yes…plenty of speculation and not a lot of action recently regarding transfers…

    I will believe it when I see it….

    For me, a Smith swap for Baines would be ideal. They need a striker, we need a left back. He has a very good game down at Goodison earlier in the season….Proven Pemiership player = what is required

  • Ryan Peacock

    Dec 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #16

    urby emanuelson would be nice or john arne riise at left back

  • Whumpie

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #17

    I’d much rather see a Baines or a Warnock, able to go straight in and show Enrique some of the prem-specific stuff he needs to learn. I’m confident that with that sort of example and competition, Enrique will come good in time.

    But it’s all press speculation, and let’s face it – the press haven’t hit the target on that front for years, despite over 150 guesses. My bet is that we’ll get a new left-back in January and unless JFK names him to the press, the first we’ll read about it will be after his unveiling at St James’s.

  • samthecat

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #18

    Smith wont be fit enough by January so no-one is going to take a punt there.
    Also KK was told not to bother looking at any players who had no resaleable value-i.e someone like Cler or Campbell. Have the goalposts moved again.
    Is there any new money available?-what are the clubs intentions regarding Owen’s contract.
    Silence from the club as usual.
    Does Joe have the final say in transfers?


    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #19

    In order of apearence, emanuelson is having a good run this season, but as a left forward and playing a free role. Last season when he indeed was a left back, he was so dismal a pundit offered to row him to england in an wooden boat just to get rid of him.
    Marcellis is indeed very talented. no more, none less.
    De Cler is having a rather bad season. As is feyenoord as a whole having. He is not from Ajax as mentionend, but from AZ Alkmaar where he was very good indeed. Stil to say he is much better than Jose?!?!? Leave him be, and try for Sebastian Pocognoli currently with AZ at left back. Thats a good talented young player.

    Best regards, J.

  • Toon_Ksk

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #20

    AO, the virus is specially made for spud fans. Hope you like it. And you are welcome.

  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #21

    This is the man for us….a young DM called Nikola Pokrivac from Monaco.

    Why’s Butt contract so much important i don’t understand!!He needs to go……PRONTO!!!

  • Kevin Nichol

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #22

    A new left back is a must for me; if we were to compare enrique to the last decent left back we had at the club (Olivier Bernard under bobby robson) then the lad falls well short of that standard! I’m not saying bernard was the best left back in the world but he could pass the ball, was quick, got forward well and was part of a relatively successful side (bye successful i mean champions league qualification twice AO; before you harp on about the lack of trophies won in that period)!

    Enrique has been here long enough now guys. How long to we continue with players putting in sub standard performances before we wise up (no pun intended)? Do we need to be relegated before someone sits up, takes note and has a clear out? JK has come out and said publicly that anyone who he brings in will be better than waht he currently has; therfore all these left backs we are “supposedly” looking at must be in his opinion better than jose! The manager will know more than any of us so if he deems the current players not good enough; i like the noises coming from him that he will replace them!

    On Xisco; spyro you make a valid point stating that it is far too early to judge the lad. I have been very harsh in my criticism of xisco! I just feel, as with jose, for 6 million pounds i would expect a player to make a relatively successfull impact upon the first team. He might very well come good; if given the time. But right now i can only judge him in the games i have seen him play (Hull, blackburn, west ham) and for me that 6 milion would have been better invested in a creative central midfielder with the amount of striking options we have at the club i.e…Martins, Owen, Viduka, ameobi, smith, Carrol, Ranger! At six million, a one for the future buy needs to be something pretty special if he is not going striaght into the first team, which the boy clearly isnt ready to do right now. That is my point explained better than saying “not good enough; get rid”…I believe we need ready made premiership players with premiership experience to come straight into the team and for a combined total of 12 million we could have had a couple of very good players (…warnock/kevin doyle…)

  • Kevin Nichol

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #23

    Partizan…We need players with premiership experience….proven pedigree! not up and coming foreighners who may take time to adapt! Picking clips from you tube and saying this players looks great is really nonsense! We no longer have the funds to waste millions of pounds on players who end up leaving for a fraction of the transfer fee’s because they couldnt cut the mustard

  • bowburnmag

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #24

    Enrique can stand and tackle with the best of them and although not lightning, is actually half-decent running with the ball, dropping his shoulder etc. His scary defensive moments are as a result of his poor passing. His poor passing is a combination of adapting to our game, not knowing his team-mates well enough and now a lack of confidence. I think that will all improve with time. I call a spade a spade but despite my tendency for cr*p cliches for some reason this fella makes me want to give him more time than I would do others. If he doesn’t improve by the end of the season, it might be time to change my mind.

  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #25

    Kevin…..I posted that video for a small introduction of a Croat who would cost you 3 times cheaper than your proven premiership players.
    Monaco players have some kind of karma to addapt everywhere in every league for a very cheap price.
    Adebayor,Yaya Toure,Maicon,Evra etc

    I’ve seen him play 5-6 times allready and the other reason i posted is for some other people to see him sawell.
    Trust me Kevin…..he could be the real deal for 4-5 mill MAX.

  • Kevin Nichol

    Dec 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #26

    I understand wha your saying partizan m8 but can we really afford a 4-5 million gamble in the position we are in right now? In Jan we need to sign players who will make a real impact quickly to get us out of the poistion we are in. I believe the time to sign these younger players with promise is in the summer to give them time to bed in…To do this in january will be dangerous but i suppose we must wait till january snd see what happens

  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #27

    Kevin….All i’m saying is that Butt is our weakest link and we need a DM more than any other leftback or centerback.

    Well Kevin,if we reached that point that we can’t afford 4 mill for a future world class DM,than we are in a BIG banana. 🙂

  • Partizan

    Dec 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #28

    then* we’re in a BIG Banana. 🙂

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #29

    Signing prospects isn’t a problem if, like Bassong, they have everything required to be a hit in England including a firmly screwed-on head. If they are in that boat then getting them in instead of a 30+ year old would be a better idea unless the more experienced player is a real bargain (and of course the younger player shouldn’t be overly expensive either).

    Personally I’d look to get someone like Anthony Annan on loan for at least a couple of months. He’s a very fit lad who can tackle well but can still provide something to the attack. He’d be good competition for Butt for a while and would work well with either Guthrie or Barton in our current system/style of play.

    Then in the summer we can look for a creative holding player (like Matuidi, Biglia, Topal) and make a small change to our personnel but see a much better team for it.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #30

    Emanuelson – Great attack, but far worse than Enrique defensively.

    Marcelis – We got no chance.

    De Cler – Poor.

  • Toon_(9)

    Dec 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #31

    How can anyone say Butt should go, have you not heard all the players exclaiming about how important he is to the survival of our club. The opinions of some NUFC fans still amaze me, okay they are only voicing opinions but we celebrate players like Taylor who is one of the rashest defenders ive ever seen (he gets cheered for whacking people on the touchline, any fool can do that, real defenders stay on their feet) in a Black and white shirt, and we criticise the ones who do the dirty work like Butt, okay he doesn’t fit the mould of say a Rob Lee, but if Michael Owen and Shay Given want him in the team im prepared to trust their judgement!! Rant Over

  • zico martin

    Dec 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #32

    i’ll believe it when i see them in black and white shirts.
    again one minute we have got two 10m players from italy wanting to join us , then it’s risse, then a german fb, then warnock and samba then baines and larson then some dutch players again it’s just a typical transfer window at the toon.and most of these are coming from jfk the st james spin machine just keeps on rolling on and on and on
    and the thing is we all hang onto it coz we’re all so desperate to see our beloved club sign some quality players. lets all live in hope lads

  • briss

    Dec 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #33

    I would be immensly suprised if we sign any of those 4 names mentioned! unless we give them rediculous amounts of money which prob wont happen since we r trying to REDUCE the wage bill

  • azim

    Dec 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #34

    sell smith, carroll and extends owen contract…we could coup 6m on these two and
    buy a good left and a dm ( 15m for both) ….just simple as that
    our players have adapted quite well in the team right now and dont spoil it by changing the squad too much….january transfer market is not the right time to buy many players, only emergency needs…if not it could spoil the team’s performance overall

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #35


  • iain

    Dec 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #36

    de cler is a long long way past his best, maybe would of been ok when roeder wanted to sign him.

  • Brutooooon

    Dec 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #37

    the problem is that most people thing left back is our problem, buts its not! the problem for us id DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD.

    Jose Enrique yupz he make mistake but he is better than our last fullback – babayaro. And we got bassong who can filled that place easilier…

    On the other hand, we still don’t have any effort in replacing aging butt..

  • chuck

    Dec 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #38

    Need backups, RB + CD, our best LB is Bassong, am I the only one who figured this out ?
    Yeah we know he can play the CD role pretty good but I believe his forte is LWB, where he could be excellent.
    Also need that midfielder to boss the team, plus a striker to link with Martins.
    Could that be Xisco ? certainly not Viduka. Owen, or Shola.
    So four good buys could do wonders for this team.
    But we have a lot of deadwood to unload.

  • Michael

    Dec 2, 2008 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #39

    Any source on these rumours at all? Even the slightest most unreliable, insignificant source?

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #40



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