Xisco May Find Success Difficult At Newcastle

We’ve often wondered if 22 year-old Spaniard Xisco, who was signed on the last day of the transfer window on September 1st, when Kevin Keegan and Derek Llambias had their famous bust-up, has any future at Newcastle United.

Xisco – will he find it difficult at Newcastle?

Joe Kinnear has hardly used Xisco at all since he arrived at Newcastle, although to be fair to the youngster has had some injury problems.

Chris Hughton has spoken up for the youngster today, as he explained:

“It has not been easy for Xisco. He came here on transfer deadline day and did not have a pre-season with us.” “Really we are still finding out about him and he is still finding out about us.”

“He is still a very young player at 22, and we are hoping he will get better and better.”

Majorca-born Xisco arrived at Newcastle from Deportivo La Coruna for an initial fee of £5.7M, and this is a sizable fee for a youngster. Apparently that fee can even rise to £7M if he makes a success of his career at St James’ Park.

But we already have Owen, Ameobi, Viduka, Martins, Carroll, Zamblera and Ranger as strikers at the club, so there’s a lot of competition for places, and we expect Carroll, Zamblera and Ranger to start pushing through for a first team squad place in the next season or so.

All these strikers were at Newcastle when Xisco was signed, so we hardly needed another young striker, especially when he didn’t exactly come cheaply.

We’re not sure if Xisco will make it at Newcastle, and we half expect Joe Kinnear to try to sell the lad back to Spain in January, but that would indicate his signing was a big mistake.

Xisco in fact made a decent start at Newcastle and scored on his debut against Hull City on 13th September, in our first game after Kevin Keegan resigned, and he looked more than decent in that game, and certainly enthusiastic.

The best thing is probably to keep Xisco at the club, and let the lad settle down and get over his injuries, and then we’ll have a better idea of just how good he is.  His personality and temperament certainly are first class.

And with the news that Joe will not need to sell before he can buy, maybe the manager can get three top players into the squad, and we should be in much better shape at the end of January.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

95 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #1

    I think anyone who advocates even selling him in the summer or jan is an absolute tool.

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #2

    tomtoon- But what you know about football i could write on the back of a postage stamp in large handwriting.

  • Shearbliss

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #3

    Have you thought Ed that he could have been the replacement for MO and MV, for next season!

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #4

    Aren’t you witty you deluded prick.

  • HeronMag

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #5

    I can’t think of a reason why we would want to sell him yet. In 5 years for all we know he could be heading our front line alongside Nile Ranger.

    You can’t judge any player until he’s started at least 20 games.

    I’m not convinced by Xisco at all but there is no way we should let go of a young talent in January just because he’s been injured and not set the world on fire in 4-5 matches.

  • The Alchemist

    Dec 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #6

    It would be ridiculous to let him go now. Hasn’t been given a fair crack of the whip. Let him play a few games with the reserves to get up match fitness then we can see what he can do. Him and martins and ranger can realistically be our strikeforce for the next 8 seasons

  • Xisco Is A Pirate

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #7

    Christ, a spurs fan who can write?! God help us all…

    Seriously, I think if Xisco can adapt he can fulfil the Viduka role up front for us a lot better than Goala Ameobi. I know Shola’s heart’s in it but I feel that his technique and finishing isn’t really at the same level as Xisco’s potential (check his goals per game stats for Deportivo). Give the lad some starts in the cup to show us what he can do.

  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #8

    We can’t sell in January whether we want to or not due to FIFA rules, so if he goes it’ll be a loan.

    I still think he can be a success but he needs to build himself up a bit (pair him up with Beye to help him) if his game is going to work over here, or he needs to find some way to adapt.

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #9

    Yes, keep a player who obviously cant cut it in the prem at the moment. Give him a few starts in important games that newcastle need to win and just hope he finds his feet. I said he was a waste of time when keegan bought him. Joe should cut his losses.

  • Kevin nichol

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #10

    At last AO we agree on something! Tom Toon Shouldnt you be off scouring the globe for stars off the future (or at least playing on football manager so you can spout off countless foreign names on this blog pretending to be a super scout)…I guarentee this; Xisco will never be given the chance to make it at Newcastle because he is not up to standard! Ed were you at the hull game? Not at any point did he look more than decent…not at all! The form off Ranger will ensure he will be sold bk to spain v.soon

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #11

    xisco is a pirate- you could have played him in the carling cup had you not lost at home to spurs. Nevermind its only a mickey mouse competition.

  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #12

    Kevin Nichol – Take your nob out of Keegan.

    Im going out now, bye.

  • Ben-Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #13

    Zamblera is poor and really needs to inprove if he has got any future at the club from what I have seen of him in the reserves.

    xisco needs games so a little run in the reserves and some goals will help the lad.

    Way too early to judge especially after his been out for a while.

    Off the record but Frank Wiffe has always looked lively and full of pace in the reserves, hopefully wount be long before he is pushing for a place

  • Xisco Is A Pirate

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #14

    Kevin Nichol – d’you seriously believe that? How many strikers have we bought for the first team since Shearer? How many of them were instant successes? Martins took ages to score – remember Roeder going to the press to ask the fans to give him time? The kid’s 22, moved to a different league in a country where they speak another language and you expect him to slot straight in? Jesuschristmonkeyballs!

  • Stardust

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #15

    In view of the quality of all of the other signings made – I have faith that Xisco will prove all of his doubters wrong.

    Missing pre-season is huge. I agree with TT – only a fool would suggest selling him.

  • DAVO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #16

    I don’t think we should sell him at all until he is given a fair chance. This may be controversial but I think Gonzalez should be given a chance (if he ever gets fit) as well. My thinking behind this is that, even though we hate the little gnome, he has brought in some decent players; Guthrie, Jonas, Bassong, Collo.
    Ok, Kev should have been allowed to manage the transfer situation however we can’t argue with the players that have been brought in. Thats why I think we should keep faith with these two players that we haven’t really seen as yet. Cheers

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #17

    I dont believe it! After 7 months i have finally made a friend. I was beginning to feel alone in my hatred of tom(the youtube scout) toon.

    If newcastle want to progress they need to get rid of the deadwood. When fergie signs a player who turns out to be rubbish he bins them straight away and doesnt play them just to save face.

  • Xisco Is A Pirate

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #18

    AO – that’s true but I’m not aiming for the domestic treble this year. That would be greedy.

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #19

    tomtoon- wrap up warm as it will be freezing at the park. And when the big boys start bullying you just run away.


    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #20
  • Spyro

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #21

    He deserves time at least. He may be great, or he may be crap. However, we wont know until he gets a proper run of games, or even a whole season to adapt to the pace of the prem.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #22

    woo hoo were up to 15 %

    perhaps we can claim 2nd

    nando will you be voting

  • Partizan

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #23

    Xisco will make it,he’s better than Shola & Smith.
    Even Torres didn’t score on his debut,Xisco did.
    He only needs a good run of games and you’ll see what he’s capable of.
    You watched him on 2 or 3 games and everyone’s allready giving him a 1 way ticket.
    How pathetic is that,what is he suppose to do???

    Just give it a rest and stop making Newcastle the most unwelcome club in England.

  • StevieA

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #24

    Wait now what?

    How are Zambrela, Carrol and Ranger going to be in the first team squad ahead of Xisco?

    Since when do Newcastle play youngsters on a regular basis (especially strikers) before they are 19-21 years old?

    Zambrela, Carrol and Ranger are all ‘hot prospects’ but they are not in the class of Xisco. I just think Xisco needs time to settle that’s all, he didn’t come in until the last minute in the summer so when you think about it he hasn’t had that long to get into the groove. He certainly hasn’t had time to adapt to life in Newcastle that’s for sure.

    We need to give him time, send him out on loan to a smaller premiership club if we need to but give him time to settle and I am sure we will see the best of him next season. He is still very young for a striker and I can still see him being a great player for us, Viduka can’t play forever.

  • Spyro

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #25

    Not a bad idea Stevie

    Loan him out to West Brom, they have a shortage of strikers. If not, a championship team will definitely have him.

  • beyethegreat

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #26

    and will it be for this blog

  • Ben-Toon

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #27

    I remember when we had Saha on loan for a season when he was just breaking through and everyone at the time said he was not good enough.

    He went on to play for his country, Man U and very sucessful at Fulham

    Maybe we could have had the best years out of him if we gave him a chance or time

  • Kevin nichol

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #28

    ‘take my knob out of keegan’? How old are you tom toon 12,13? Your going now eh? Off on the next plane to norway to get a first game glimpse of per scilan skelbred? Maybe swoop for the next john obi mikel? Or maybe you have home your afternoon milk brake around this time and if your lucky its snow angels before it gets to dark! Id join you but you see my knob is stuck up keegan so i cant quite make it x

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #29

    beythegreat- I have done although i nearly didnt because i feel tom toon and spyro bring the blog down a little. I enjoy coming on here but you cant beat a proper forum.

  • AO

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #30

    tomtoon has said on a few occasions that he is only 14. So having thought about it i would like to apologise for slating the lad. You just assume you are talking to adults on here all the time and forget that kiddies come on here too. Tom toon i am sorry, and father christmas isnt real.

  • keith

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #31

    think be a slight bit harsh to get rid of him since he only got here, but can see why he might be sold if we needed funds and we got back what we paid for him, not very fair on the young lad but that is life sometimes

  • The Entertainers

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #32

    He hasnt done much, i can accept that and i have my doubts long term, but:

    He was good enough for Depor

    He is good enough for Spanish U21’s

    He was good enough for Mr Picky Wise to sign him.

    So i agree in letting him have at least a full season with us.

    I hope we do stick by him and gradually bring him into the frame and shove the negative comments from some fans, including me down our collective throats!

  • xisco biscuits

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #33

    @ AO #16

    fergie signed evra who had a very poor time of it when he first came. now look at him. i also seem to remember a certain ronaldo having no end product in his first season or so. and as for adebayor…well, wenger doesn’t have a clue about talent does he?? he should’ve dumped adebayor after a poor first season. and i would imagine wall-eye ‘arry will seek to flog modric coz he hasnt lived up to his £16m price tag

    xisco needs time to adapt, he also needs games and patience from fans, coaches etc etc

  • The Entertainers

    Dec 3, 2008 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #34

    I also disagree with the comment about Zamberela, Ranger and Carroll making strides ahead of Xsico.

    Firstly Carroll in my opinion has had his chance and prehaps its time to cash in.

    Zamberela has not pulled up any trees since hes been here, but is in a similar position to Xsico being young and foriegn. Time is on his side and a loan back to Italy in a year or two might be a good thing.

    Ranger, i have huge hopes he can break into the 1st team years before he should.

    A good point by a fellow blogger, letting Xsico go out on loan and back in Spain he may build up his confidence, just hope he wants to come back!

  • Ex-pat MAG

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #35

    Come now AO, you choose to come on this site probably for the antagonistic enjoyment you get with your less than patriotic remarks. Unlike other’s I have no objection to you posting on this blog, but spare me from the persecution complex you portray, lets face it you seek confrontation.

  • Partizan

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #36

    Way too many Strikers in our team,in order Xisco to get a decent run we need to offload:Viduka,Ameobi,Smith,Carroll and have only 3 strikers:Martins,Owen,Xisco and Ranger if needed.
    Man Utd…..Berbatov,Tevez,Rooney
    Chelsea……Drogba,Anelka,Di Santo
    Smith,Ameobi………..bit too much don’t you think??

  • Zangwill

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #37

    Sell him in a good price, then buy a better attack mid-player to instead of Butt. We are so weak in this position!!

  • james L

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #38

    liverpool have kuyt and babel aswell

  • nightfall

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #39

    Partizan – agree, not to mention our strikers cost us almost 20m/year in wages…

  • MDS

    Dec 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #40

    I’d rather keep Xisco than Ameobi/Smith/Carroll. I say offload those 3 in January and have Owen/Viduka/Xisco/Martins up front.

    If we sell Owen, keep Ameobi and let’s see what the Spanish lad can do


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