Kinnear To Persevere With 4-4-2 Formation


There have been some calls from Newcastle fans recently for the team to revert to a 4-3-3 formation, so we can play all 3 strikers, Owen, Martins and Viduka up front, much like Kevin Keegan did last season, with some significant success.

Owen and Martins likely to start for Newcastle up front against Stoke

But it looks like Joe Kinnear will resist that temptation, at least for tomorrow’s visit of Stoke City.

Joe Kinnear has reverted to 4-3-3 in some games when Newcastle needed the goals, and while we may see all three on the pitch at some time in the second half tomorrow, it looks like Joe will be starting only two, and most probably Owen and Martins.

Joe said today:

“We could go with the three-pronged attack at some stage in the game, but you have to be loyal to the rest of the players,”

“We’ve got a well-balanced midfield with Butty and Danny in the middle, Charles and his dangerous left foot on one side and Spiderman on the other.”

“If I went with three from the start you have to be careful because if you lose possession in certain areas there could be three players out of the game.”

“But if things are forced upon me then I’ll take a chance because I’ve always been a manager that is not afraid to take risks.”

“But I think to start with I’ll stay loyal to the bank of eight which has done well for us and it will be two from three up front.”

It seems like Joe is also a big believer in wingers, and of course we have two good ones in Gutierrez and N’Zogbia, who will start tomorrow on the right wing and left wing respectively.

Certainly Jonas has a happy knack of creating lots of chances, and we are also expecting big things from Charles tomorrow too.

If the defense can again play a very tight game at the back once again, it will hopefully take but one goal to wrap up all 3 points, and that’s what we have to hope for tomorrow.

If we can do that there’ll be a lot of happy Newcastle fans at 5:00 pm local time tomorrow afternoon, that’s for sure.    😀

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32 comments so far

  • Michael

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #1

    roger that!

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  • NE1

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #2

    Owen and Viduka would get the nod for me.

    Although a bit of pace in and around the box could cause big Faye a problem or two – certainly did when he was in black and white.

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  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #3

    Faye could be out injured for tomorrow according to Tony Pulis

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  • Shearbliss

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #4

    remember ed 433 was a bit of desperation from kk as we were on our way down!

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  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #5

    knowing how impatient we can be it would be good to see an oba/owen partnership work vs stoke.

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  • HeronMag

    Dec 5, 2008 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #6

    Finally Zog gets the chance to prove himself on the left!

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  • koko

    Dec 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #7

    Start b Viduka and Martins will be a good thing and Owen have a trump card to exploit the pace and seriousness of Martins Viduka inside the box

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  • Karltoon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #8

    3pm tomorrow Ed.. Panic’d there

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  • Karltoon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #9

    Nope you’re right, im wrong.. That’s what i get for not paying attention. Apologies

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  • Guinea Mag

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #10

    4-4-2 to start is ok with Martins and Owen up front.

    I’m concerned with our two central midfield players as neither are what I consider creative and have no one on the bench if needed…..

    My glass is half full and anticipate a Newcastle win!

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  • wsq

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #11

    if fagan wins the midfield battle ill kick guthrie and butt myself for him

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  • Ausgeordie

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #12

    Jonas has done most of his stuff through the middle or even on the left. He has not made much from the right almost prefering to let beye come up and cross so he can wait back a little for a pass or interception. I’d like to see him down the left from the start with zog in place of guthrie. I dont thing either are that great in defence but zog is better in attack.

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  • boater

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #13

    The 4-3-3 worked because it followed the law of playing your best players whatever the formation. Viduka is a better striker than Guthrie is a midfielder, etc. We need a goalscorer from midfield, and so play Owen in midfield… is it really 4-3-3 anyway… more like 4-3-1-2.
    JK’s loyalty to the pedestrian Guthrie/ Butt combo is touching but will no way benefit our now desperate need to to score goals and win home games..

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  • keith

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #14

    I think he right to leave it 4-4-2, we need to keep it tight in every game at the back and zog jonas owen and oba should have enough in them to score

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  • boater

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #15

    Anyway, why is he being loyal to Guthrie now Viduka is bakc? He dropped him unceremoniously when Barton was back… the right decision because this season guthrie is still developing.. JK needs to fiercen up the attacks. We need to go up another gear and are too flat in central midfield to dominate games by a country mile… I think everyone can see that eh.

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  • Darling27

    Dec 5, 2008 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #16

    4-4-2 everytime for me. Shame we haven’t got an attacking midfielder.

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  • Gateshead Mag.

    Dec 5, 2008 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #17

    i think newcastle are in desperate need for a dominant midfielder. Someone to play alongside barton and for the pairing to take the game by the scruff of the neck and make things happen, as we have the strikeforce to score goals!

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  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Dec 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #18

    @Gateshead…No sh!t, we’ve been missing that since……………..Speed?………..?

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  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Dec 5, 2008 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #19

    maybe Barton can be that guy…i believe he has the ability just not sure about the head and he seems to be having bad luck with injuries

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  • BT9MAG

    Dec 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #20

    zog has to step up tomorrow!

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  • Karltoon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #21

    Could Zog not adapt to the middle?
    If he wants to be in the first team that much..

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  • Whitt

    Dec 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #22

    our wingers (Jonas included) haven’t created many chances all year!

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  • The Entertainers

    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #23

    I had championed the 4-3-3 formation against Stole at home, but Joe makes a lot of sense!

    Owen and Oba deserve their chance.

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  • O'Hurley

    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #24

    If only we had an amazing central midfielder…. 4-3-3 would be amazing.

    play viduka in the center as a striker and martins and owen on either side as forwards. With Jonas and Zog on the wings, think how freakin’ great we’d be if we had someone like Ribery to dominate central midfield!

    ————-Given————–

    Beye—Bass—-Colo—Enrique

    Jonas—RIBERY!—N’Zogbia

    ——-Owen——-Martins—–
    ————-Viduka————–

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #25

    We would get killed by league 1 teams with that midfield 3.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #26

    Noe would it ever happen.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #27

    Nor*

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  • O'Hurley

    Dec 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #28

    Totally disagree… Just cos nobody does it, doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work.

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  • O'Hurley

    Dec 5, 2008 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #29

    Besides, Tom Toon- you act like having Frank Ribery is a bad thing…?

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 5, 2008 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #30

    Frank Ribery is an amazing player, who we have no chance of getting, but where is the defensive, or even slghtly defensive side to the midfield? There isn’t one.

    It would get overrun by a league 1 team!

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  • nightfall

    Dec 5, 2008 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #31

    ………given
    beye colo basso enrique
    …….butt guthrie

    ….jonas owen zog
    ………martins

    everytime, except with 1 change (butt -> barton)

    martins is great alone up front…

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  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Dec 5, 2008 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #32

    @ nightfall…i like it!

    let the duke come on if we go behind

    but with that formation i expect goals!!

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