FT: Newcastle 2 Stoke 2 – Magpies Panic – Throw It Away


Newcastle threw away two points today at home to Stoke City, as they allowed Stoke City to come back from two goals down with just 30 minutes remaining to tie the game at 2-2, with an injury time goal by former Magpie Abdoulaye Faye.

This result is just not good enough, after a great performance in the first half, and if we cannot win when we are 2-0 up at home with just half an hour remaining, when will we?.

It was the second time in successive home games that the the team has conceded an equalizer right at the end, and it’s cost the side a valuable 4 points.   🙁

A win would have seen us move above Stoke, and this is only their 3rd away draw of the season in 8 away games, the rest all being defeats.  Stoke had only scored 3 goals before today, so you see what we mean that this is just not good enough. The lads let the fans down today in the second half – big time.

The thing that may have been key in this game is that at the break, Steven Taylor replaced the injured Danny Guthrie who had taken a knock to his ankle in the first half. Taylor moved to right-back with Beye moving to right midfield and Jonas switching to the center, and that may have been what unbalanced Newcastle in the second half.

But it shows just how weak our squad is if one player going out, makes that level of difference.

And as we said this morning if we didn’t win this game there are no excuses, and there are no excuses, no excuses at all for not winning this game. What a downer.

It all looked so rosy at half time with Michael Owen having scored after just 8 minutes from a cross from Jonas Gutierrez, and then after 24 minutes Michael scored again from a wonderful left-wing center from fellow striker Martins.

It’s right what Kevin Keegan said, that Michael will always score goals, but whether he wants to stay at Newcastle now is an open question, and he may be sold in January, if the England striker decides to move on. Better to get some money from him in January than nothing in the summer, so Michael has a decision to make soon.

But we said at half time when we were 2-0 up, that Newcastle needed to keep attacking to add to their tally, and not do another WBA when we also 2-0 up at half time, and nearly threw that game away.

But we did throw this one away, and the confidence in the side disappeared towards the end, as panic took over.  We amazingly conceded two goals to present an unlikely point to Stoke City, who were about the same standard as WBA – teams we should beat.

The worrying thing is you’ve got to say there was just not enough composure in the Newcastle defense in the last few minutes of this game, as Stoke piled on the pressure, and had two great chances to score, and took one of them to equalize.

Amazingly Newcastle could even have lost this game with some more bad luck. And Joe Kinnear was simply furious after Stoke equalized in what was a must-win game, and was sent off by referee Mike Riley.

It’s now 6 games since we last won, and these are relegation results even though we are playing quite well, but if can’t get wins when we are so much on top, and at home too, it doesn’t auger well for the future.

Draws will not get us out of the relegation zone, and we’ve now drawn the last 4 games, and that’s just not good enough – we need wins and we should have walked this game in the second half.

Maybe it’s the mental strength of this team or something, but that’s two home games in succession when we’ve succumbed under pressure right at the end of the game.

As we said, it’s just not good enough.

TEAMS

Newcastle United: Shay Given, Habib Beye, Jose Enrique, Fabricio Coloccini, Sebastien Bassong, Geremi, Danny Guthrie, Jonas Gutierrez, Charles N’Zogbia, Michael Owen (c), Oba Martins
Subs: Steve Harper, Claudio Cacapa, Xisco, David Edgar, Mark Viduka, Andy Carroll, Steven Taylor

Stoke City: Thomas Sorensen, Andy Griffin, Danny Higginbotham, Richard Creswell, Mamady Sidibe, Danny Pugh, Salif Diao, Amdy Faye, Rory Delap, Abdoulaye Faye, Ibrahima Sonko
Subs: Steve Simonsen, Seyi Olofinjana, Leon Cort, Glenn Whealen, Ricardo Fuller, Andrew Davies, Michael Tongue

Referee: Mike Riley
Attendance: tbc



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91 comments so far

  • :(

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #1

    lost it in the midfield really. people might call him carp, but guthrie played the butt role well 1st half today. 2nd half we had 3 wingers and a right back in the middle, and they couldnt keep possesion or protect the defence.

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  • Louai

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #2

    first?

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #3

    JK’s tactics were nothing short of suicidal tonight

    If your 1-0 up you attack, if your 2-0 you ATTACK, 3-0 up, 4-0 up, you have got to attack for the whole 90 minutes man!

    God i miss Keegan, and i HATE MA with a passion. I hated him from the start, i NEVER trusted him

    and look what the fat b@st@rds done…..

    KEEEEEEEEGAAAAAANNNNN

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  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #4

    Kinnears complete useless.

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  • Obafan

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #5

    Pathetic result. If you cannot win against a team like stoke when you’re 2-0 up after just half an hour then it’s sad.

    It reminded me at the home game against WBA, where we were lucky to get 3 points after a very good performance during the 1st half.

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  • Darling27

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Complete Joke

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  • Louai

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #7

    i honestly im really getting sick of these JFK subs and tactics. Why the hell take off oba and guthrie and enter cacapa to the fray???? THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING.

    THIS IS AS LOW AS WE HAVE EVR GONE

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  • Darling27

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #8

    Shocking 2nd half tactics

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #9

    JK = WTF?

    Leading 2-0 at home then trying to kill off the game when we all know we dont have the players for that! Why have three forwards on the bench and end up playing with 4 cd’s and 2 full backs? I thought Viduka wasnt fit enough yet? So how is he gonna give us an attacking option with 6 defenders playing? Joe and his so called tactics make me so angry. Football is so simple how come NUFC managers dont find it easy.

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  • Xisco Is A Pirate

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #10

    Why the hell did we call off the attack after 2 goals? Say what you like about Mr KK, whilst he may not display the bottle to stay in the job, he does have the balls to stay on the attack.

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  • DanToon

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #11

    Kinnear out he’s not up 2 it, simple as! Ashley’s rent boy!!

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #12

    Almost positive note: 😉
    We’ve climbed above the Spuds – hopefully West Ham can beat them on Monday….

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed

    Please dont write any more articles on how great Joe Kinnear is from now on mate 🙁

    I was always an admirer of JK, but now his tactics have made me feel like he is so scared of getting beat, he does some stupid things, like what weve seen tonight

    Theres no excuse for this dross man 🙁

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  • Danny

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #14

    again….viduka 4 martins…
    that is unbelievable…

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #15

    Anyone know how long Guthrie will be out for?

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #16

    Why not finish the second half with this team?
    GK Given
    RB Beye
    LB Enrique
    CD Bassong
    CD Coloccini
    RCM Jonas
    CM Geremi ( Unless he was injured )LCM NZogbia
    LCF Martins
    CF Viduka
    RCF Owen

    If Joking Here kept this team then we would now have the 3 points and I would be £75 better off!

    JK is a clown!!!

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  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #17

    Our club is falling ever further.

    Players looking to leave in Jan, NO CHANCE Of many of them wanting to stay.

    Kinnear the ONLY manager we can get as Ashleys still in charge.

    We cant get Ashley out because of the recession….

    Its bleak……..so very bleak…..

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #18

    Agreed ronaldeano #12

    🙁

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  • Kinnear Is Ashley's Rent Boy (DanToon)

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #19

    I’m startin’ to hate this club , it’s not NUFC anymore!

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Wish Oba had kung-fu kicked jfk when he came off…..

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #21

    We have to ACT now JK must be banned from picking tactics and the team! Put him as an assistant to Shearer until the end of the season!

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  • Robz

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #22

    What happened to Guthrie?

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  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #23

    Seriously though lads.

    We cant beat stoke 2-0 up…..Cant beat wigan 2-1 up…

    And BARELY managed to get past West brom.

    JUST HOPE WE SURVIVE!!!

    Thats all we have now…..its gonna be a shite season….just hope we make it through..

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  • Piers

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #24

    It’s bleak yes but if we keep firing managers we will never be a top club. Yes Kinnear f**ked this one up, lets calm down and give him a chance to redeem himself.

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #25

    This is all JK’s fault.

    How can we play like we did in the first half and treat the fantastic toon army to that crap in the second half?

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  • cursed

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #26

    TOLD YA… DON’T BE TOO COFIDENT, OR TOO HAPPY.. THE GOD JUST DOESN’T WANT US TO BE HAPPY……
    AT THE END…CAME OUT WITH NOTHING
    Fk

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  • eddie

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #27

    i feel unwell. with guthrie out we no longer have any central midfielders. this was a problem for kinnear but he scuppered himself with his feeble bench selection: surely lualua should have been there. i think i’m going to throw up.

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  • the black magpie

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #28

    looking for a hole ………to bury fat A in

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  • Xisco Stu

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #29

    Get Appiah signed up for the rest of the season now! Otherwise we’re going to struggle through Christmas.

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  • koko

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #30

    Please respect yourself and Kinnear out …

    The Panel was not the level of the game in the second half and governance Zlmna often in the second .. Martinez is still aggrieved and the defense of 6 players something crazy

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #31

    Piers comment 23 Every game he f~~ks up his tactics and costs us points. If I made that many errors at work Id expect to be shown ther door!!!
    Shearer manager and JK as his assistant until next season. We are in great danger of being relegated. Leeds United spring to mind?

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  • D.C.

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #32

    This one’s on the manager, plain and simple. I understand Guthrie being injured, but you should sub in Viduka and stick Owen in the hole. Taylor has lost his first-team place for a reason (and it’s not only down to him being injured). That way you keep a reasonably solid back line intact rather than moving defenders into the midfield. Speaking of, the Cacapa sub was nothing short of awful.

    Of course JK will blame the ref for the dodgy FK call that set up their goal (and it was dodgy, though to be fair he’d been calling that all game) rather than looking in the mirror. Our manager cost us two points today.

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  • ronaldeano

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #33

    We need Shearer on board ASAP like……

    Look at how we were when he helped Roeder out…

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #34

    Gonna watch Manure now – they’d better do their best to try and cheer me up……..
    😀

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  • Hadrian

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #35

    JFK should have never got the job full time in the first place !!
    if the club wasnt tobe sold mike should have went after the best manager he could find and made a permanent appointment to build for the future and sell the club in good hands .

    never mind changing managers all the time , if there not a good enough appointment in the first place , it causes more damage leaving them in the job .

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  • GEORDIE69

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #36

    Only Shearer can save us now!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #37

    jesus christ we need shearer….

    If ever we needed shearer…..lol

    Nothing can be worse than Kinnear.

    This is not the first time hes complete cocked all this up. He di it v Sunderland, Middlesborough, Wigan…and now stoke.

    Tactically ive never seen a manager more clueless.

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  • spiny Norman

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #38

    Totally agree with D.C.

    Reckon Shearer’s WAY to smart to get involved like….

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  • andyglostoon

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #39

    think of the poor fans sat in the stadium watching and supporting the team!

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  • upthetoon4ever

    Dec 6, 2008 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #40

    i literally feel like comitting suicide right now.
    lads face the fact, with this form of carelessness we hav no hope of staying up.

    God help me

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