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Newcastle Dismay As Players Look Like Leaving

9:42 am, Saturday, December 6th, 2008 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 33 Comments

Joe Kinnear, as we reported last night, has met with Derek Llambias and Mike Ashley, and it seems that there’s both good news and bad new for Newcastle fans, coming out of that meeting.

Michael Owen – just 55 appearances and 26 goals for Newcastle

They discussed the club’s transfer budget and seems to have been given £12M, as we reported last night for two players, each valued at £6M.

But it’s hardly any good signing new players – if we are going to lose some in January or this summer, and get nothing for them.

Michael Owen, Nicky Butt, Shola Ameobi, Steve Harper, Mark Viduka and David Edgar are all free agents in the summer and they can all talk to clubs in January, and that’s exactly what they all want to do.

Joe hasn’t talked to the players about it, but it looks like their agents want to all wait until January to talk to other clubs. Boy what a surprise that is, although they have every right to do just that. That’s one difficulty if you don’t renegotiate contracts soon enough.

Joe said today:

“I’ve not really had a chance to talk to the players about their contracts and I don’t know what is going to happen,” “The players who are out of contract, I have spoken to a few of their agents.”

“They are holding back as well. They are waiting to see what their options are in January and who comes in for them. They will make a decision then.”

“I’m speaking to Shola’s agent on Monday so we will see what happens there, but there isn’t much I can do if the players have decided they want to see what else is there for them in January.”

“I just hope I can get the players in I want, because if we can get them we’ll be smoking.”

Kinnear and Dennis Wise seem to have done their homework, and Joe has identified the players he needs, and it looks like we’ll be bidding some decent money, and they are good players – hopefully. But it will be a nervous time in  January for fans, as we may also see some of the players we want to keep, actually leave the club.

And it’s a worry that not more of the players have not come out and said they want to stay at Newcastle, although that’s been the case what Harper, Butt and Viduka have indicated.

But there again, from their point of view, the club has treated them abominably since Keegan left, and when you look at it that way, it’s hardly surprising they may want to take flight. They’ve been treat no better than the fans.

The big player of course is Michael Owen, and if he wants to leave, it’s likely the club will sell him in January, rather than get nothing for him in the summer. But we had hoped Michael would want to repay the club, since he’s on a wage of £110K a week, and in 3.5 seasons gas appeared just 55 times for the club with 26 goals.

We paid £17M for him from Real Madrid so he has cost the club about £37M in wages and transfer fees in his time at Newcastle. That’s over £1.4M a goal, not a good return.

Where’s the loyalty from the captain?  But maybe there’s not much of that left in English football right now.

We’re very disappointed at this news this morning. Let us know what you think about all this – thanks.

Comments very welcome.



Tags: David Edgar · Mark Viduka · Michael Owen · Newcastle News · Nicky Butt · Shola Ameobi · Steve Harper · Transfer News and Rumours



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33 responses so far ↓

  • 1 dan // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM

    first

  • 2 joe // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    I’m disgusted at Owen. It’s normally the press but this has come from our manager. Owen shouldn’t play for us again. Oba and Viduka can play together and want to be here so tell Owen to do one in January. Don’t sell him, swap him as we’ll get a better deal. I can’t stand him. He’s a prick. The money we’ve paid him and he’s got no loyalty whatsoever. EMO. Spot on.

  • 3 dan // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Dont worry Ed, Im sure they will get sorted out soon if Ashley is serious about being accepted back by the fans.
    Today we will beat Stoke and the Mackems will get thrashed at Man U. Good times.

  • 4 Geordie69 // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    Let Michael Owen, Nicky Butt, Shola Ameobi, Steve Harper, Mark Viduka and David Edgar leave at the end of the season because they are NOT good enough for Newcastle United!!!

  • 5 Toon Graeme // Dec 6, 2008 at 9:58 AM

    Just read this in the journal. Not what you want to wake up to.

    I hope and pray that this is all media spin but I doubt it.

    I would say that 99% of we on here are all sure that Owen will go in Jan. There is always that 1% of chance that he may sign – all depends on what and if any offers come in for him. If its stupid money offrd then he will go from a business sense.

    Realistically I can only potentially see Everton coming in on offer for him and will probably do a player and cash deal as Im sure Everton are skint.

    Im sure the Dukes and Oba will make good partnership. Then there is Ameobi and Xisco. Well if Dukes stays – I cant see anyone wanting him with his ‘injury’.

  • 6 Pete // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM

    Hate to say it, but wouldn’t you take a better job offer if you got it? This club is a total mess, regardless if Kinnear, a mediocre manager at best has been hired permanently until the summer. It doesn’t look like the club is getting sold anytime soon, which is the equivalent of no good times ahead.

    I hate to see Owen go though, however he is constantly injured. The rest of the lot can leave if they please, only one of them I’ll be missing is Harper. He deserves some regular football though and we got decent backup with the youngsters

  • 7 ronaldeano // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:05 AM

    If Owen signs a contract, great, if he dosent he will leave in the summer and the new owners will buy a new striker thats younger, faster and better than Owen. Thats one thing to look forward to, is it not?

    Our new signings this season have been great, but the squad weve had for the past few seasons have been mediocre at best.

    I want to see a top manager build a new team in the summer, a team thats young and hungry to be the force we once were in the PL.

    Apart from Harper and Owen i dont realy care who signes a new contract or not, we need to replace these players with better ones anyway imo

  • 8 Shot Bru! // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM

    I thought we scooped about 8million from the FA OR FIFA with regard to compensation for Owen’s injury during the world cup? It’s unbelievable how fans constantly vilify Owen for being injured or not committing his future to nufc. The guy keeps his head down sores goals when he plays and is a good ambassador for the club. At the same time people glorify the likes of Barton who has an equally dismal appearance record due to injuries, suspensions and jailtime and even had the gall to refuse a wage cut while in jail.

  • 9 fawlty // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    typical over hyped so called footballers with no scruples,pretend i am injured so i can be paid huge amounts of cash with no risk,agent then decides they both want a big wedge from another transfer,only harper,shola and butt deserve any praise as they have been loyal to the club,so good luck to them whether they hopefully stay or leave

  • 10 Toon Graeme // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    About Harper – I was in the car a few weeks back and listening to a match where Harper was co-comentator and it sticks in my mind as he came out with a comment about he isnt seeing enough 1st team action for his liking and the door is open…

    That is not b*llocks!

  • 11 dan // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM

    I dont think Owen will go for the simple reason that none of the big clubs want him, and non of the other clubs can afford his wages. He is holding out for better terms in a new contract which is completely normal.
    To be honest he is past his best now anyway and if he did go it would take a huge amount off the wage bill.
    People say you can’t replace Owen, but I think Wise and Kinnear could snap up someone just as good for half the wages. Even tho Owen is still young the injuries have taken their toll and he is a fraction of the player that left Liverpool.

  • 12 dan // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM

    I dont think Owen will go for the simple reason that none of the big clubs want him, and non of the other clubs can afford his wages. He is holding out for better terms in a new contract which is completely normal.
    To be honest he is past his best now anyway and if he did go it would take a huge amount off the wage bill.
    People say you can’t replace Owen, but I think Wise and Kinnear could snap up someone just as good for half the wages. Even tho Owen is still young the injuries have taken their toll and he is a fraction of the player that left Liverpool.
    If Harper went it might persuade Krul to stay and i wouldnt care if Edgar went.
    All in all im not that bothered if most of those players go. We can replace them.

  • 13 Partizan // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM

    Just sell Owen cos i don’t wanna him to leave for free.

    Owen,Smith,Butt,Geremi,Cacapa,Shola and Duff should all leave.
    We should get around 16 mill for all of them + the 12 mill,i think we can get 5 good players for that money.

    As always:

    DM-Pokrivac…4 mill
    CF-Vedad Ibisevic….10 mill
    SMF&CM-Toni Kroos….Loan
    LB-Obradovic……….4 mill
    CM-Ledesma(Lazio)….11 mill

    ……………………………Given……………………………
    Beye……….Coloccini…..Bassong…….Obradovic..
    …………………………..Pokrivac………………………..
    …..Jonas……………….Ledesma……………N’Zogbia
    …………………..Martins…………Ibisevic…………….

    Subs:Harper,Viduka,Enrique,Barton,Taylor,
    Kroos,Guthrie.

    DREAM TEAM

  • 14 Shanghaitoon // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    To be honest, I’m not to bothered about any of these going except for maybe Duke! MO we need to get some money for him while we can… he doesn’t add enough to the team only an ego! Egdar not good enough, Harper excellent but I’d prefer to keep Krul and it will one or the other I think. Butt can go, too old and slow and gives away too many penalties or dangerous free kicks. Ameobi will likely stay anyway.

  • 15 Sav // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM

    “But there again, from their point of view, the club has treated them abominably since Keegan left, and when you look at it that way, it’s hardly surprising they may want to take flight. They’ve been treat no better than the fans.”

    That’s an unexpected few lines from you, Ed, as I got the impression from other threads that you were all in favour of fans welcoming FatAsh back into the fold. On the very day he appears to have committed 12 mil to JFK, you change your tune.

  • 16 GM // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:29 AM

    I would only really like to se Harper stay out of that lot as he is the best 2nd choice goalkeeper anywhere, if we can swap Owen for someone who would benefit then I wouldnt be that arsed, If everton are the only club in for him I cant see them paying his wages either, only man city maybe outside of the “big 4″

    Same for Butt, where is he really going to go? a wigan or a stoke type club, cant see that really

  • 17 craig chisholm // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    i dont blame anyone for going at all. are club is run by wankers who dont give a rats arse about anyone or anything. if i played for newcastle and a more stable teram came in with better ambition (just about any other team in the prem) then i would be off to. of course owen will leave, he is hardly going to want to play in the coca cola league is he?? ffs. they will all go inc martins. once one goes a wave builds up and others will follow, its always the same. thats not the problem, the problem is that we will not repalce them with anything like the quality that we need, we will replace them with sub 2 million type dross. its time everyone stopped thinking jk is ok, he is not, he is ashleys muppet and he is already getting the first shots in early to prime us all up for a mass exodus of our top players. everyone must remember that all of these players are loyal to kk and alothough they have kept quiet they will not have forgot, they will ALL do their talking (with their feet) either in jan or at the end of the season as free agents. i expect they will all go on a free. thats alot of money and assets leaving for nothing just cos that fat shit ashley wont spend a penny – owen, 8 million, butt 1 million, martins 13 million, ameobi 3 million, harper 3 million, edgar 2 million plus others.Thats thirty million quids worth of players gone for nothing. Oh yes plus viduka and duff going too. so lets call it 35 million given away, not to mention the sheer volume in numbers. do any of you think turd ashley will invest anything like that – and thats just to get us back on an even keel?? please remember that he has spent 2 million in three windows. i think that jk has been told to sell before he buys, no matter what he is dribbling out his mouth. we are nothing more than a cockney team now – look at our management. there is nothing left at newcastle as it stands. we need a change of ownership desperatley.

  • 18 Mick G // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM

    Owen has yet to say he’s staying true, but he hasn’t said he is leaving.He hardley ever gives interviews so the press and hell of a lot of people on this blog make up their own stories.Stop having a go at Owen until we know the truth.I know he hasn’t played a lot of games but he is the best player we have got.When he came on against Wigan he changed the game, I know he missed a chance ,but he also scored, and only for a world class save by Kirkland he would have had another,up till then we never looked like scoring.Get of the blokes back until he gives us something to moan about.

  • 19 Ryan Peacock // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:37 AM

    if owen dont stay then i wont be suprised because he has NEVER enjoyed playing for us, good goal getter but im sure we can replace him.

  • 20 Kevin nichol // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM

    What i like about JK is that he does not bullshit! He tells it as it is! If players do not want to wear the black and white shirt, then they can pack up and leave! I pay my money to watch passion and committment! If thats not there then it doesnt matter how much skill or talent a player has! Lets buy experienced premier league players in january, not foreigners who see us as a big pay day! Players who want to wear the shirt! We need a victory today so lets have you all at st. james… Up the toon

  • 21 Punk Skunk // Dec 6, 2008 at 10:40 AM

    Don’t get why we should sell players, everyone’s always bleatin’ on about how small the squad is already?..The only players worth gettin’ rid of are the completely useless ones. e.g. smith…
    …Regardless of ones views on Owen, Viduka even Ameobi at least they do something when on the pitch…As for sellin’ Harper…Na!.Only if he really wants to leave…We’d be better off playin’ him for a while, show how good he is, then get proper money…Oh no, he might just make the keepers place his own?..

  • 22 azim // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM

    there are 7 players-not 6 as reported above- who could leave at the end of the season for free:
    1)owen
    2)viduka
    3)ameobi
    4)harper
    5)edgar
    6)cacapa
    7)butt
    from above 7 who are really playing well in the team right now??
    If I were JK, I will only keep
    1)ameobi-rolling contract for 1 season since he is inconsistent
    2)harper- 2year contract coz we have Krull and Foster as good back up players

    and the rest of them can leave and no point keep the in the club

  • 23 Marty-TOON RISING // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:37 AM

    Loads of you on here are saying let Owen go and let DUKES play along side OBA-
    You guys are Daft…..Dukes will play 10 Games a season so what do we do then???????
    Glad you guys aint managing the club

  • 24 Marty-TOON RISING // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    AZIM!!!
    If we let the 7 players go,do youo think we can replace them with seven?????
    We need more players at the moment 2 or 3 and if we sell from our small squad do you think we will sign 10 players???
    No chance
    Our squad is gonna be too smal again because we wont have a chance of keeping some and its best to get rid of the likes of DUKES,SMITH,SHOLA,EDGAR and BUTT

  • 25 azim // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    we need to play big and small players upfront and not martin and owen-both are small players-
    this was the key reason why we countnt do well against Boro- we were better when Viduka came on on that day- but i agree with u one thing viduka is not a long term solution for the club

  • 26 azim // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM

    yes I agree with u we need 2 buy players but out of 7 who are really playing in the 1st 11
    i can hardly name more than 2 players from the 7

  • 27 Oga // Dec 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM

    All the free agents can piss off along with Smith.

  • 28 Nick 69 // Dec 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM

    anyone who thinks its good for the club of owen leaves is an absolute fool, he is BY FAR the best player in our squad and we WILL NOT get a striker anywhere near as good as him at our club for a long time, to be honest i wouldnt blame him if he left, why would he want to stay at this club in the mess its in, afterall her has no ties with the club. and as far as people saying get rid of owen and keep dukes, haha if u think that then u obviously dont know much at all, dukes is half the player owen is, plays less than half the games owen plays, and doesnt score as many goals, you lot have a short memory aswell as owen was the main reason we stayed up last season and without his goals we coud easily have been in BIG trouble.

  • 29 Orion // Dec 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM

    Let them leave, no use letting them stay if they are not loyal to the cause, Owens £1.4M a goal is pathetic and probably one of the worst signings we have ever done.

  • 30 D.C. // Dec 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM

    Anyone who wants Owen to piss off is a moron.

    Owen – 55 league games, 24 goals
    Martins – 75 league games, 25 goals
    Viduka – 28 league games, 7 goals.

  • 31 Ausgeordie // Dec 7, 2008 at 2:20 AM

    We need to get Smith fit!!! Then we can sell him to Everton for 3 mill. I love Harper but if he wants to go he deserves to so let him. 4.5 mill. Ameobi can go for 3 mill. His recent goals will have given his value a boost.

    If we can get 10 or 11 mill for those three to almost pay for Joes two I think we’d be doing well.

  • 32 Ian // Dec 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Those people who keep quoting Owen’s goals to appearances tell only half a story.

    Look at the Stoke game, as soon as Martins was subbed the opposition camped in our half, why? because Owen (or Viduka) is not going to be as dangerous on the counter, Martins was helping the midfield, often he was behind them.

    I know Owen is an excellent player, I know Owen’s goals per appearances are as good as the best of them, I do not argue at all or disagree with that.

    What I disagree with is that in our current team if we had Martins and another who played the same way (my choice as always Cisse, but Bellamy could be a second choice or anyone who plays a similar game) that we would score less goals in a season, I think it would be a good few more, why?
    Because a good central midfield of the quality to support and get the most out of Owen would cost around £30m and it isnt going to be spent (plus we cant attract that type of central midfielder), we think £10m is a lot for a striker never mind a midfielder, therefore we need very mobile strikers, fast on the counter so the opposition have to keep players back, supporting the midfield and able to create chances from very little, static players in my opinion are no good in a team that doesnt have an amazing midfield and solid defense.

    My opinion is you need two strikers who play the same type of game when you have a small squad, that way when one cannot play or you need to play one at the front on his own, the type of play doesnt need alter to adjust to the other striker.

    Jonas, Zog and Martins are in perfect harmony, we need to make sure the Owen replacement fits in with those three, get the back sorted then see if we are lucky in picking up some quality central midfielders in the future.

  • 33 craig chisholm // Dec 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    hey up ian…………i see you are still banging on about cisse. he is good though. i would have prefred crouch and viduka out. it matters not though mate cos no-one is going to come to a coca cola league team, thats what we are now and its 100% where we are heading. i hate ashley, kinnear, libiarse, wise, the lot of them.




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