Owen – We Were Fortunate To Be 2-0 Up

Newcastle captain Michael Owen is under no illusions that Newcastle didn’t deserve to win yesterday, because he says the team didn’t play well.

Michael Owen – we didn’t play well

Michael Owen said following the game:

“We were disappointed, really disappointed, because we didn’t play well.” “We had patches in the first half where we did all right, but we were probably fortunate to be 2-0 up, in my opinion anyway, at half-time.”

“You think you are comfortable at 2-0, but all it takes is one goal and then they have got half an hour or however long left to try to snatch one.”

“We thought we had done it. It was getting into injury-time and we thought we had held on, and if we had held on, we would have been quite relieved to have not played well, but got three points.”

“But as it is, we are really disappointed and we are going to have to pick up some good results away from home now to make up for it.”

We thought we were much the better side in the first half, but if anything our tactics cost us all 3 points in the second half.  We’ve just got to stop giving the initiative away to the other team, when we go ahead, especially when we play at St. James’ Park.

Joe needs to take a page out of Kevin Keegan’s book, and when we do get ahead, demand more goals and keep attacking the opposition – none of this containing nonsense.

If we had done that in our 5 home games under Joe Kinnear we could have maybe won them all. There’s more truth to that than meets the eye, because of the 3 games we haven’t won under Joe at home (all 2-2  draws with Man City, Wigan and Stoke) the opposition have equalized in the last 5 minutes of those games.

Just look where we would have been with those extra 6 points – don’t look – we’ll tell you – 9th place just behind Everton on goal difference.

Whether we can manage to win at Portsmouth next week or not, we need to have a game plan that goes after all 3 points.  Fortune always favors the brave, and we need to start thinking we can win these games against lesser opposition, and go into them with the confidence that we can indeed secure all 3 points.

If we don’t think we can win, we won’t.

Comments welcome.

43 comments so far

  • charlie

    Dec 7, 2008 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #1

    its not looking good guys i am trying to be optimistic and not worry too much but its getting harder to see where we will get these 8 wins for safety from. i am worrying about the toon more than anything else in my life at the moment, i hope we stay up.

    It just seems to be a messive confidence thing we need defence and attack both to play well in the same game !!!

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 7, 2008 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #2

    We just need to stay offensive, it goes wrong when we try and defend a lead…its same reason we havent won away from home.
    Our bets attribute is the pace in the side down the wings and getting the ball into our strikers. We do that we’ll score goals.

    Owen sounded negative to me after the game.
    Clearly we werent lucky to be 2-0 up we were hammering them, it could have been 3 or 4-0 the first half.

    Hes just tired of losing leads no doubt. He hasnt scored a winning goal in a v v long time.

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #3

    3 points at Pompey and i’ll forget about it


    Dec 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #4

    Against Chelsea & Boro the devence done well,they started well against Stoke & things did not start to slide untill Joe messed about with it, he should have left the devence alone put Charlie C.M. and put spiderman on the left martins on the right viduka up front with michael and we would have pd it

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 7, 2008 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #5

    we shouldn’t of moved anyone out of position,

    put Viduka on for Guthrie and play 4-3-3, simple

  • toonbully

    Dec 7, 2008 at 8:22 PM

    Comment #6

    I think we will LOSE against Pompey , we can’t hold a lead against Stoke , we lose to the scum , and draw all the time , we need wins .
    I have looked at our last 22 games . I have took out all the stone bonker loses out which leaves us with eleven matches to draw or win , since we are the draw specialists , we are likely to draw at least 5 more times this season . That leaves us with 6 wins .
    This means realistically we need to WIN the following ;
    West Ham Home win,
    Sunderland Home Win,
    WBA , Away win ,
    Stoke Away win,
    Pompey , Home win ,
    Fulham Home win,

    If we can secure 6 wins and at least 5 draws WE GET 23 point PLUS 16 = 39 points , border line dropping to Championship … I think we are DOOMED , not safe at all , unless JK stops the goals against column , we need clean sheets to survive…!

  • Turkish Magpie

    Dec 7, 2008 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #7

    just done the bbc score predictor

    we end up with 54points with realistic results, starting off with a draw at portsmouth

  • Spyro

    Dec 7, 2008 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #8

    Turkish Magpie

    I think we will end up with around 50points this season.

  • toonbully

    Dec 7, 2008 at 9:08 PM

    Comment #9

    Spyro and Turkish , mates , wake up and smeel the bleeding coffee , 54 points , we are on 16 now , that means you think we will 38 points from the last 22 matches , taking into equation we only lose 7 and not 11 as I predict , that means we get 38 points from 15 matches , thats about 10 or 11 WINS and 4 to 5 draws !!


  • AndyNUFC

    Dec 7, 2008 at 9:30 PM

    Comment #10

    I think all the noise coming from Owen at the moment is pointing to him staying, but realistically I see him going.

    I would love to think Kinnear is going to sit down with our star players and say “listen, the signings we’re going to get in January will not only keep us up, but lay foundations to go on to better things next season, put some trust in me and stay.”

    We need to hold on to players like Owen. I don’t think he’s anywhere near the player he used to be, but 2 goals here and there keeps teams up.

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 7, 2008 at 9:34 PM

    Comment #11

    A lot depends on january Toonbully.

    We need to go on a run of form.

    We also need to stay positive, we’ve had shocking results and we’ve had v good results.

    We’ve now drawn with Man U, Chelsea & Beaten Villa.

    1 of those results may be lucky, not all 3. Clearly we have quality.

    Yesterday we were destroying stoke until Guthrie was injured and kinnear played defending games. If he can keep us attacking we will do much better in rest of the season, we have good players !!

    Owen & Martins are both scoring..both in top scorers list in the prem. Even Ameobis got some…the issue is keeping a clean sheet. Which we were until Kinnear changed it…so we have to be positive.
    This early part of the season will hopefuly end up being our worst.

  • woops

    Dec 7, 2008 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #12


  • Wayne3940

    Dec 7, 2008 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #13

    FFS lets keep Owen or anyone else in the team unless we have a better replacement lined up. We need to add 5 names at least before we decide who might leave


    Dec 7, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #14

    The players need to stand up and take the blame,forget JK the players are supposed to be PRO footballers and get payed scandelous wages,Sell VIdUKA as he has barely touched the ball in the 2 matches he came on in


    Dec 7, 2008 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #15

    JK made some poor switches i agree but he doesn`t make them make poor challenges n poor marking.
    Stop blaming our managers n getting them sacked,blame these lack luster,over-rated will lacking players that we pay good cash to see play.
    Wear the stripes with pride

  • AndyNUFC

    Dec 7, 2008 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #16

    Fantastic point Marty.

    It’s all very fine and well saying “why the hell didn’t he keep it 4-4-2… where’s the midfielders on the bench? etc etc

    Simple fact of the matter is we had 6 defenders on the pitch and could not stop conceding against a newly promoted side famous for throw ins. Now that is something to think about.

  • Ganiyu

    Dec 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #17

    Can we get 15 points from 15 matches

  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #18

    Marty, kinnear not only made some poor tactical decisions, but managed to get himself sent off as well, which he will most definitely receive a touchline ban. He needs to be more responsible and stop spitting out his dummy when things go pear shaped.

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #19

    see when you actually look at the table, had we held out against man city, wigan, and stoke, after all 3 equalised in the dying minutes, we’d be sitting on 22 points instead of 16, and be 8th-10th. hindsight is a wonderful thing. 🙁

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #20

    To be fair to Kinnear if a team i managed had just held out a 90 minute onslaught from Chelsea and held out middlesborough id have thought they could deal with the pressure from stoke also. But mistakes were made as usual…

    Still…it was he who used such defensive tactics. Cacapa on for geremi even was not beneficial…Geremis long balls to martin were our only escape at that point. He went far to defensive and it cost us.

    So if we’re being fair it WAS kinnears fault, but it was also down to certain players cocking up.

  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #21

    Your probably not far off the mark there Ganiyu.

  • JonnyNufc

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #22

    We deserve to be about 8th-10th id say based on performances KK.

    Our goal scored/conceded ratio puts us about there also.

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #23

    Jonny-if we were 8th 10th, kinnear was still here and we were under the imperssion money was available in Jan, we’d all be over the moon. Just a shame, rubs salt in the wounds that little bit more when you see it was 2 ex toon players in bramble and faye who’ve nicked 2 of those games from us aswell.
    ah well, cant dwell on it, we need to start winning and fast. We’re turning into draw specialists and its not good, before saturday my mate was actually considering putting decent money on us not winning a game until 09, he’s convinced we’re just going to keep drawing. Thing is if we get a draw at pompey, i should be happy, but i’ll sit there and go “christ another draw”. End of the day, we should be winning these games at home, to allow us to go away and just nick a draw. in a perfect world, we’d do that and be fine.

  • Stamford Toon

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #24

    I think JK lost us the match (no I am not calling for his resignation). He should have left the back line as it was and brought in Cacapa to replace Guthrie. By moving Beye into midfield and Jonas into the centre of midfield we lost it. Neither Beye nor Jonas looked comfortable. Not only that Taylor weekend the back four. Cacapa and Geremi would have had enough experience to close down the midfield and we would have been left with Jonas and Zog to be able to move forward quickly and chqnge defence into attack. For JK to get himself sent off isstupid with solittle time to go. What did he do?

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #25

    stamford-he tried to ask the linesman about the free kick given against Bassong. (it was very weak, and right by the touchline. The referee gave it so my guess is he was asking the linesman why he didnt tel the ref it wasnt a foul). They then equalised from the free kick and he must have had a real go at the linesman. Riley came over and sent him to the stands.

  • Stamford Toon

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #26

    PS. The supporters went missing as well. One of the quietest games of the season

  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #27

    Stamford i think his tongue got himself into trouble again. As for his subs it might have been better moving Nzogbia into the middle with Geremi and playing Martins out on the left, leaving Owen and Viduka up front. Martins plays a decent ball in from out wide, as seen in recent games. Mind you it’s all in the past and we’re better off looking forward i guess.

  • Ganiyu

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #28

    I just want owen out even tho he scores alot from other players work rate.cost the club alot in terms of salary.captain is not meant for him.i see given in a better position.im feel so sorry for Nufc depending on him.for crying out loud he is the easiest player to replace

  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #29

    I was at the Hibs v Celtic game this afternoon with a couple of mates who are more than dissatisfied with Strachan, even though theyr’e 4 points clear. They were hoping that the mackems make a move for him after this weeks CL games. Speaking afterwards to some of the Celtic fans in the pub and they seemed think Shearer could do a good job for them.

  • Ganiyu

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #30

    Shearer as a Mackem

  • Ganiyu

    Dec 7, 2008 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #31

    Let me guess scottish league is boring.i prefer italian league more action less error.internazionale for life

  • Shot Bru!

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #32

    Ganiyu have you heard of the famous shooting stars of ibadan or insurance of benin?

  • boater

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #33

    Word. I just coming on here to moan about the postings on the dead wood article…. ARGHHHHH!
    Yees are bleedin idiots most of you. How is Enrique dead wood? Ok he is young – prone to errors of judgement and not the finished article but since when did that make someone dead wood?
    I can stretch to bringing in someone more experienced and alternating – but dead wood? What a piece of kak.
    Ameobi? How is he dead wood? He scored 3 in 5 starts recently…our top scorer at the lub, happy to play 4th fiddle within the squad and a geordie?!?!?!? Naaaah get him oot and spend 7mil on an unknown player who is class leek whilst happily wait for injuries to the other 3 strikers to even get a kick of the ball… good luck eh.

    Dead wood… is Kinnear and Houghton and half the sniping supporters… well ok… the dead wood JK was referring to is probably – Xisco, Edgar, Cacapa (rethink despite playing him?), Geremi at push – although I still rate Geremi within our current set-up.

    Man – if only I could manage the side for one game…. this is the team to get us into europe this season.


  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #34

    At least Zoggy, Geremi and Enrique put in good performances in the first half. Those are the only positives to take out of that game really. Everyone was average or dire in the second half

  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #35

    I was really impressed with Zoggy and Enriques partnership in the first half when they were ALLOWED to attack. JK must now know that we cannot try and defend for such a long time against teams like Stoke, Hull etc.

  • wsq

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #36

    there is nothing you can do to make up for points lost. points lost are lost full stop.

  • shaz

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #37


    loved the line without owen what are newcastle.relegated is probably the word Simon Rushworth was looking for.lol

  • Ganiyu

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #38

    Shot bru-nigerian league is shite.im a nigerian but cant name all the teams in D league.although we have pure talents especially in pepsi academy.thats were players get their way out of africa

  • Partizan

    Dec 8, 2008 at 5:46 AM

    Comment #39

    What are our chances to bring Michael Johnson from City??
    Do you think 8 mill is enough,does anyone know??

  • Piers

    Dec 8, 2008 at 6:15 AM

    Comment #40

    I think we all need to settle down. Don’t look at the big picture…just focus on the next game. If we consistently put in good efforts we will certainly stay up.


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