This has hardly come as a surprise, as Newcastle United manager Joe Kinnear has been given a second Football Association charge following his sending off in the game against Stoke City, over the weekend.
Joe Kinnear – another FA charge against him – this time for swearing
Joe has just been charged this evening, with this time using abusive and insulting words towards a match official during Saturday’s 2-2 draw with Stoke City.
This came after Stoke had amazingly equalized in the 91st minute of the must-win game for the Magpies, and he wasn’t the only one using abusive language after Stoke had equalized.
Most fans were livid, but it was at the team, and not the match officials, as the lads had given up a two goal lead, at home – and with just 30 minutes to go in the game.
Kinnear is still to respond to an improper conduct charge, after calling Martin Atkinson a Mickey Mouse referee following his side’s 2-1 defeat at Fulham on November 9.
Things are not going to get any easier for Joe, and he needs to find some way of not swearing at the officials in times of great stress, because these will most definitely continue.
After all, he is manager of Newcastle United.
Putting a sock in his mouth might work, or something just as ingenious, to stop these outbursts – but we have to admit we were not exactly calm and collected ourselves when Stoke City scored their equalizer.
But we were annoyed at the team, when 3 players went for the free kick in the 91st minute that came in from the right, and all 3 Newcastle players missed it. It ended magically at Abdoulaye Faye’s feet and the big man didn’t miss.
It wasn’t the officials Joe, it was our own players at fault – at least this time – let’s be honest about it.
Well, it’s got to be onward and upward, there’s not much else to do, and thank goodness we’ve just about forgotten about Saturday’s game – just about. Maybe we’ll be able to look at a replay of the game tomorrow, without getting too upset – maybe. 😀
We remember our wins forever, and soon forget our defeats – doesn’t every Newcastle fan?
Comments welcome.
Note: yes it felt like a defeat on Saturday.
169 comments so far
Lost prophet
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Comment #1He’s a cock!
Isaac Hunt
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Comment #2Fool! Absolute fool! How long will this nightmare continue?
sirjasontoon
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Comment #3Starting to get on my tits JK is.
If he was winning loads of games I couldn’t give 2 stuffs what he does but sadly that aint the case.
Dong.
Toon Graeme
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Comment #4NUFC is better than Eastenders. Something different everyday!!
Joe your a plum – keep your gob shut or at least make sure you dont get heard.
Anyway – you cant tell me that he is the only manager – have you lip read what fergy says to the fourth ref etc! Exactly.
Isaac Hunt
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Comment #5Now you know why he couldn’t get a proper job since 2004. He’s an effing loose cannon!
Spyro
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Comment #6Can’t stand these pricks that do nothing but moan about JK. Do you hear Blackburn fans moaning about Ince? No you dont. Managers deserve time and NUFC fans have no right to demand quicker results than anyone else.
O'Hurley
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Comment #7Man, Joe is worse than me about this shite! Hahaha, I hate to say it but I think it’s kinda funny, like. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really inexcusable (not to mention no class, ya kna…), but I have to say I laughed when I read about it. Oh well, that’s JFK for ya!
Rob Lee
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Comment #8I’ve never heard Blackburn fans moan about anything coz i didn’t know they actually exist
O'Hurley
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Comment #9Spyro-
Right on, mate!
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Comment #10see if i’m 100% honest, i dont think calling a linesman a few names should warrant such punishment. I know we have the whole respect the ref thing, but end of the day they only warrant the respect if they do their job properly. Bassongs challenge on Fuller wasnt a foul, and none of us were happy about the equaliser.
Obviously he is a professional and should have learnt to keep quiet, it shouldnt happen but at the end of the day football is a passionate game and outbursts from everyone are to be expected.
I’m not saying i condone the behaviour, i’m just saying the FA seem to handle certain situations in rather strange ways.
As it was pointed out on talksport today-The FA last week decided to punish Patrice Evra for his bust up with a Chelsea groundsman, 8 months after it happened. Within 2 days they’ve slapped another fine on Kinnear for a bit of petty name calling at the heat of the moment. All just seems a bit ridiculous for me.
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Comment #11To add to my previous comment, Evra was given a 4 match ban and a 15,000 fine. Evra practically gets paid 15,000 for a days light training, its pocket change.
Kinnear could get what, a 2 match touchline ban for calling a linesman a naughty name?-it just doesn’t add up. Priorities need to be sorted.
JonnyNufc
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Comment #12Agree with you KK.
I find it laughable that he got cautioned for calling a referee a “mickey mouse ref” before also.
Ffs come on. If someone giving you that remark effects your life than your a tos**r anyway lol
Fair enough with the whole respect thing, but theyre going way to far. They’re still men….the players will get the same things in the dressing room off managers and they get it from fans to.
These refs/linesman need to get some balls. If your gonna get paid thousands to judge the outcome of games then deal with the comments when you get it WRONG.
And Joe’s right, it was NEVER a free kick. But we’re all just to used to getting crap decisions against us to comment on it.
Turning into a joke now.
Rob Lee
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Comment #13agree with you like spyro, just never met a blackburn fan in my whole life, wierd like! especially wen they won the league, wud of thought they’d have picked up a few glory seekers along the way…
O'Hurley
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Comment #14KK Forever-
Truth spoken! I think that if I was a linesman and someone called me a “mickey mouse” official… I KNOW that I would just laugh at them…
TheGoldfishBowl
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Comment #15If Kinnear remains in charge for the rest of the season, we are down. He simply hasn’t a clue what hes doing, in my view….
He talks of January being a ‘turning point’, I think it will be when Owen etc… leave and aren’t replaced, thus confirming our relegation…
Lost prophet
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Comment #16The bloke is in his sixties. How much time does he need! He’s needed in the dugout not in exile in the stands. Grow up for gods sake! Yet more negative press we don’t need.
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Comment #17Jonnynufc -exactly, micky mouse of all things. absolutly ridiculous. He said that probably thinking “i wont say what i really think of him or i’ll get into trouble” and look what happens! Linesman/Ref’s shouldnt take the job if they’re not willing to deal with the stick when they get something wrong. Obviously none of us are perfect, but end of the day the refereeing across britian has been incredibly shoddy for a while now.
Only a matter of weeks ago, the SFA actually went to scottish referee’s and told them they’d be losing their jobs if they didnt start to pay proper attention and get the obvious decisions correct.
I’m pretty sure they too have the respect the ref campaign, yet they’ve realised some of the decisions have been nothing short of shocking.
As far as the Premier league goes, the moment someone speaks negatively regarding an official its “how dare you” and a slap on the wrist.
Patrice Evra strikes a groundman in the head, brings on a 30 man strong rumble during a warmdown and 8 months later he’s given a pathetic fine and a few games on the bench, madness.
Spyro
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Comment #18i agree officials are far too protected. Your not even allowed to complain about a refereew ithout being fined. It is ridiculous. That is why they are so shite nowadays, they just run and hide after making poor decisions.
It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Comment #19Lua Lua, Bramble, Faye…who else from the players we have sold is going to come back and score against us?
Spyro
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Comment #20Distin next week, Woodgate the week after and then Bramble again after that lol
wigaz
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Comment #21Be Bellamy next! then prob Owen!
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Comment #22spyro-i agree, its gonna get to the point where you cant even disagree, or say you think the referee got a decision wrong without getting into trouble, never mind give him abuse.
its not just football, its society in general. Any unconventional opinions are immediatly frowned upon, you could say one thing and it could be taken as something completly different and before you know it you’re knee deep in the brown. canny ridiculous but a fact of life sadly.
Anyone watching west ham/spurs?
Spyro
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Comment #23anyone got a link for west ham v spurs?
Rob Lee
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Comment #24not one for spreadin rumours but i work on high bridge street in town and seen sylvain distin walking along there with two of his mates last friday afternoon. probs just up here to see mates he made whilst playing here, but wouldnt mind him to be honest! gud experienced defender, know we need players in other positions a bit more urgently, but id still think he wud b a gud signing…
Spyro
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Comment #25CM, DM, and LB is what we need.
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Comment #26spyro-agree with the above but i think a striker has to go on the list aswell. If owen leaves and god forbid should oba pick up an injury/viduka picks up another bad one, we’re up a creek with no paddle.
Todd
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Comment #27I hate Bellamy
Ganiyu
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Comment #28I love ohara
It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Comment #29Spyro, try googling for “west ham vs spurs streaming december 8 2008” shouldn’t be more than 5 clicks away
OK
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Comment #30Joke Kinear should leave as soon as Ashley sells or as soon as he admits he can’t sell.
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Comment #31Todd-bellamy has looked good so far to be fair to him, the bright spark in west hams team, had a good game last week aswell
KK FOREVER (Ross)
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Comment #32that illunga is awful, he loves a handball. seems to do it every time a cross comes in and he’s infront of it, he just uses his hands, madness.
TOON LAD
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Comment #33Ganiyu
me to mate love him to sign for the too
TOON LAD
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Comment #34ment toon
Ganiyu
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Comment #35Spurs
Isaac Hunt
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Comment #36It’s a man’s world is it? Well JK should act like one, not like a spoilt kid. He has the protection of officialdom. Talk like that outside of his protection and he’d get a hiding. Oh yes, he’s passionate all right, but if I went on like that at SJP I would get banned. The man is a fond fool!
TOON LAD
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Comment #37FFS!
spurs scored
Ganiyu
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Comment #38Goal
AndyNUFC
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Comment #39Somebody said before “if he was winning games then I wouldn’t be bothered”. Typical.
So you mean to say, if we were winning games, then you wouldn’t be criticising Kinnear for getting himself in trouble? So, you’re linking his abusive language in relation to us drawing the game? In other words, because we’re not winning, him getting charged is something easy to get on his back for.
Stop being bloody ridiculous saying he’s this and that, you know, it’s because of fans like you that form pressure groups and have created this knee jerk style at the club, 13 managers in how long? It’s pathetic.
He got carried away because terrible decisions like that cost games, which in turn make the fans criticise the manager (because he’s the easy target), which in turn eventually loses the manager the job, just like we did to Sam Allardyce (but things really aren’t that bad yet).
Give him time and put some trust and faith in him, and above all, support him.
Todd
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Comment #40yeah i’am aware he looks good, makes me hate him more.