Newcastle Look To Strengthen Central Midfield


Central midfield is an area of the team that Joe Kinnear will look to strengthen, as well as left back, when the January transfer window opens in 24 days time.

Chris Hughton discussing things with Joe Kinnear

Chris Hugton talked about our central midfield strength today:

“Central midfield is an area that we do need to strengthen,” “I think Geremi did well in there first half but apart from him, who can also play wide, we have Nicky Butt, Danny Guthrie and Joey Barton. Today in the second half we had three of the three out.”

Wonder why Chris didn’t mention Ignacio Gonzalez, who is our 4th central midfielder, who has an injured Achilles and is out until March.

That’s one reason we are short in central midfield because Joey Barton and Ignacio Gonzalez, who has hardly played at all since his arrival on loan from Valencia, are both long term injury victims.

And because of the lack of central midfielders we let ourselves down badly in the second half on Saturday, again conceding an injury time equalizer, and we can only imagine what the Newcastle dressing room was like after the game.

Chris added:

“Sometimes when you come to changing room in situations like this and you are bitterly disappointed, sometimes you don’t have to say too much, the players know themselves. They’re very aware, very angry and disappointed.”

“I would put us in the same group as seven or eight teams at the moment, striving to pull clear of the bottom three. We’re not doing it because we’re not winning enough games. But there is a confidence we can get the two or three wins on the bounce which will take us away from the bottom.”

It was a disappointing result on Saturday to say the least.

We saw the best of Newcastle in the first half and things were buzzing at half time when we were 2-0 up.  But then we saw the worst in the second half, when we so weakly succombed to a poor Stoke City side.

We should have kept attacking in the second half, that’s where the tactics were woefully inadequate.

We’re dropping far too many points at home for comfort though, that’s for sure.

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66 comments so far

  • xfer

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #1
  • Toon Graeme

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #2

    Ive just read this in the Journal and my first repsonse was “no sh*t sherlock!”.

    Didnt we all say this last transfer window!!

    Well its now Monday and I am still really peeved off with that second half. Not only tactics wise and players.

    Watched match of the day. Can someone explain to me why two weeks in a row we have not got the full in depth analysis like everyone else on the programme!

    They better sort themselves out for Sunday!!

    I put my shattered faith in the behind the scenes boys and hope that they sort everything.

    Local news says that Fat ash has dropped his price – anyone heard owt?

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  • Marty-TOON RISING

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #3

    it was pathetic the way we threw in trhe towel,
    unproffesional to say the least.
    We should have won several games and now we go up against some teams that have been scoring goals and i cannot see us getting anything against Portsmouth………
    not looking good but i`d say we will do just enough to stay up-AGAIN,how many yrs in a row is that????????????????????????????????
    Anyone?????

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  • Toon Graeme

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #4

    I dont recall feeling this way last year. Its like 100 times worse that we are gonna go down.

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  • J Tudor

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #5

    Ive had a good look at the 2 goals conceded by us and on both instances Taylor was marking the goal scorer, you may argue that collo should not have aloud the cross to be put in for the first, but Taylor is actually looking back at the goal scorer before he puts it in the back of the net. For the second maybe the freekick was not a freekick but again Taylor was marking Faye and lost him. How many points is this boy going to cost us? If you want crunching last ditch sliding tackles he’s your man but his positional and football brain is sh*t. I know joes hand was forced to put him on at right back but if he partners collicini again at centre half we are going to concede goals left right and centre.

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  • Fiddly

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #6

    matias fernandez and miguel veloso!

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  • Knownowt

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #7

    Not for the first time I can’t make sense of JK’s substitutions. Clearly he needed to replace Guthrie but in the process shuffled the right side of defence around to the extent that they didn’t seem to know where they were supposed to be.
    I’m sure the everyone has an opinion on this but at 2 -0 up and with Stoke on the ropes, why not just drop Owen deeper and bring on Viduka. This formula proved very successful toward the end of last season and would more likely have kept Stoke under pressure.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Stop blaming Taylor, he was good at RB yesterday and he doesn’t deserve criticism. Colo played the worst yesterday and he wasn’t even that bad, he made a couple of vital mistakes that and unfortunately cost us the first goal. Can’t blame him that much for not going in harder on fuller though, he goes down easy in the box for such a big lad as proved last week against Hull and Colo has already given away a penalty against Fulham. These things must have been going around in Colo’s head.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #9

    i can dream fidd;ey

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  • Nick 69

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #10

    the result at the weekend was nobodyies fault but joe kinnear, iit was his tactics and his poor substitutions that cost us and not taylor

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  • Stardust

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #11

    J Tudor – I think its even worse than that – the whole defence crumbled when Taylor came on – his positional play is so poor he unsettles the whole back line and because of that the midfield panics.

    I accept he was playing out of position but for the scond goal he had overlapped Colo an came into CB pos, and just stood there in no mans land too high up the pitch.

    Taylor is simply not good enough

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  • Stardust

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #12

    Nick 69 – I agree the ultimate blame was JK’s but you cant hide the fact Taylor is a bigger liability than Bramble ever was.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #13

    What a ridiculous load of tripe! Stardust that is nonsense! How can you say it’s Taylor positional snese that amek everyone panic? That is ludicrous. I have never been Taylor’s biggest fan but criticism towards him is unwarranted. He did nothing wrong on Saturday and even saved our bacon not long after coming on.

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  • Stardust

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #14

    Spyro “Stop blaming Taylor, he was good at RB yesterday ”

    All I can say is that you werent at the game if thats your view.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #15

    and taylor is certainly not as bad as bramble
    taylor has shown he can play well in consecutive games under keegan he just needs someone to bring it out of him

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  • Stardust

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #16

    Beyethegreat – totally disagree – although i am not a Bramble fan taylor makes as many or more mistakes – unsettles his team – but gets away with everything because he is a “geordie”

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  • Nick

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #17

    jk should either as a lot of people have pointed out gone 433 or had someone like lua lua on the bench.

    taylor makes bramble look like bobby moore.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #18

    There are those who worship Taylor for no apparent reason, and then there are those who critisize Taylor for not apparent reason.

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  • ArtyH

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #19

    Its time to face the facts, we are in trouble and no mistake. There seems to be no end to the problems. I am sick of it. The whole club needs another overhaul. The sale looks dead in the water and there is no player contract talks. If Ashley stays we will be relegated. I would hate to think what the season ticket sales will be like next year if we are in the championship! Thats where we are going under this management team.
    I think everyone now is just accepting the inevitable, we will go down with the great unwashed, Jez what a prodpect!!!!!

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #20

    Just get Mehmet Topal in!

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #21

    We wont go down, check the form table, there are like 6 or 7 teams in worse form than us. I would back Blackburn, Sunderland, Stoke and West Ham all to go down before us.

    West Brom will be relegated

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  • AO

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #22

    artyh- dont worry about season ticket sales for the championship. Newcastle have the self proclaimed best fans in the world and they will still pack out the stadium.

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  • AO

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #23

    spyro- although i agree with your relegation candidates those teams mentioned have players who will fight for every point as stoke showed. Sunderland will buy themselves out of trouble as will blackburn if they get a large fee for santa cruz. Newcastle really are in the brown stuff at the minute and it will only get worse if given and owen leave in january.

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  • beyethegreat

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #24

    stardust

    it has nout to do with him being a geordie i realize taylor is not brilliant but he isnt as bad as bramble

    taylor makes mistakes but i believe that when we can get some stability and colo can get settled he will learn (though bassong is better)

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  • Tore Torell

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #25

    Taylor is highly overrated among most Toon supporters. I agree he makes some great tackles now and then, but his reading of the game is awful.

    He is a bit like Titus, he can look great at times but in the end of the day you know he’ll let you down.

    For midfielders I’d give Appiah or Abou Diaby a go, what our midfield needs legs that can cover distances better than what Butt can offer.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #26

    This team proved just last year that they know how to get out of a relegation battle so i am not worried on that front. Sunderland wont buy themselves out of trouble, they have already said that they aren’t going to spend in January and that was when they had stability. I doubt they will spend now without a manager at the helm.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #27

    Daiby will never happen, one of my favourite players at the minute though.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #28

    Mehmet Topal is the best, realistic option for us. He will replace Butt with ease.

    AO – We were doing better without Owen, check the stats, and Given is becoming more of liability, I prefer Harper personally, the better keeper overall.

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #29

    I am sorry but didnt Given say he wouldnt sign for the spuds in Jan or any other club…

    Cannot whack the facts….

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #30

    The best thing Sunderland can do to avoid relegation would be to drop their “stars” and revert back to the hardworking team they had last year. I knew players like Diouf, Chimbonda etc would do them no good.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #31

    LooneyToon – To be honest, not many will agree simply because of the time he’s been here but if we were offered £6-8mil +, I’d take the funds.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #32

    So would i TT, but not because i don’t rate him, i just feel we owe it to him to let him go if a champs league team comes in for him.

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  • Spyro

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #33

    Anyone going to watch our kids batter wigans tomorrow?

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  • bowburnmag

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #34

    I don’t think we’ll be offered £8m for Given and even then I’m not sure it’s great business to sell him. Still top 3 in the Premiership and on his day as good as anyone. Plus his attitude and experience could prove vital come the relegation dogfight.

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  • Nick 69

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #35

    fact is given wont be goin anywhere, JK wont want to sell his number 1 keeper, and shay given wont want to leave anyway

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  • neeraj

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #36

    is it a rule

    scapegoat = taylor

    he made good tackles
    i only saw two attacks from his flank one when he came on and other just before the goal which was a free kick

    how on earth was he mis positioned if the ball never came to his side of the flank

    first goal was from our left hand flank so was the second goal no where taylor

    all he did was made a superb tackle to stop a goal….

    and was willing to go forward with one twos with beye

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  • Micky Toon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #37

    Does no one else think that if someone like Arsenal is interested in Given, then that is reason enough not to sell him.
    Hopefully they will get Hennesy from Wolves to stop the crap that’s being written.

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  • Dave

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #38

    Can’t understand how anyone can say taylor played well at Right back. I was at the game and as per usual taylor has no discipline as a pro footballer. Asked to play right back but drifted into central defence the whole time he was on the pitch, was standing in Collicini’s back pocket leaving the wing exposed.

    Top and bottom of this game was Kinnears negative tactics and even though it was obviously wrong after 2 minutes of the 2nd half he did nothing to correct it.

    He messed half the team about just to acomodate 1 player. He should have left Beye at right back (the defence looked solid) kept jonas on the wing to stop their full back pushing on.

    It was a simple decision, Guthrie off injured, Viduka on, 4-3-3 Owen in the hole behind Viduka and Martins…..idiot

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  • Guinea Mag

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #39

    Can not understand the criticism against Taylor, sorry but it’s unwarrented!

    Colo was left for dead for the first goal and too many players standing around for the second….

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  • LooneyToon

    Dec 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #40

    Dave…

    re 4-3-3….exactly…

    Think he has it in the back of his mind that this was “Keegans formation” last season therefore does not want to use it…

    Hope JK wakes up and smells the coffee…pronto

    ps…BowburnMag…This working from home malarky….lol

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